Bad Idea Mafia III Dead Thread

MURDERCAT · Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:13 am

Pretty sure that's game

TheGoldenParadox · Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:16 am

has it been 24 hours :/

TheGoldenParadox · Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:17 am

fucking hell

TheGoldenParadox · Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:25 am

if micc was on we might have had a chance :/

MURDERCAT · Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:30 am

I feel like I trust the scum team to have thought about it more, so if they say it was a win already I believe them. But yeah, now it's clear.

Micc · Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:43 am

welp I guess I'm dead

MURDERCAT · Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:47 am

Imagine playing this setup and not shooting for 6 days

The self control is admirable

TheGoldenParadox · Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:28 am

can't wait to see mafia pt

Micc · Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:02 pm

i mean I said it from the start. playing optimally probably meant actually playing mafia.

that's not what most of us signed up for, so here we are

ISO · Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:22 pm

All I know is that I have town in here complaining about the setup being scum sided and scum in the PT complaining about it being town sided. So I'm going to call that a win.

MURDERCAT · Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:48 pm

Is it scum sided? I don't think so

ISO · Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:52 pm

I think its pretty balanced. Town played pretty badly and even got someone modkilled and still had outs to win it if they had shot right yesterday I think.

PokerFace · Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:29 am

In post 134, Thestatusquo wrote:All I know is that I have town in here complaining about the setup being scum sided and scum in the PT complaining about it being town sided. So I'm going to call that a win.

In post 136, Thestatusquo wrote:I think its pretty balanced. Town played pretty badly and even got someone modkilled and still had outs to win it if they had shot right yesterday I think.

I agree with both of these at this moment but I need to be certain the second is true...

PokerFace · Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:30 am

In post 133, Micc wrote:i mean I said it from the start. playing optimally probably meant actually playing mafia.

that's not what most of us signed up for, so here we are

I think I might be the only one that signed up to play this as mafia. Why did I do that you ask? Well I already got my be scum fix and kill scum fix in previous bad idea games.

I was retired so I wanted to shake the rust off and find scum. And since I designed some gambits that found 2 of 4 scum (I will explain these later), I think I shook the rust off pretty well

Also I wanted to see if there is a way to brake Shea's new setup. I am a Software QA guy in real life. Its my real life job to break the system. Its my job to break the program. I have broken many mafia setups. I wanted to see if I could break another. Now that we know the setup, I believe I owe it to Shea to try to break this thing.

Step one, let's pretend that this game was run as an open. Let's pretend everyone knew what mafia could do day 1. And let's assume no one goes kill crazy (Big assumption, but let's assume it). Is Town ideal play to :
A: Have scumiest and second scumiest be involved in the killing with 1 as shooter and other as target each day (neither of those 2 should be someone that already shot)
B. Have scumiest with low/no shot delay kill the scumiest with a higher shot delay each day
C. Have the same person do the kill each day

Think you can run some numbers with me now, Micc? Or am I doing all the work with this since I know the setup now

PokerFace · Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:55 am

Ideal goon play is make a daykill that makes you look town among a bunch of bad kills made by rest of town

If you are a goon that does not do that^ then lay low and look town, play mafia duh.

Ideal GF play is play to get investigated and do not shoot

So what is ideal town play? Guess I'll start on the math and you can jump in if you want Micc

PokerFace · Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:08 am

This being a closed setup running might make the current game slightly scum sided since town is not really able to break the setup without knowing it. If you can't see setup to break it more inclined you shoot like crazy and give scum ample opportunity to use their ideal play that was mentioned in my last post

But in an open setup does town flip the tables?

PF continues on his math...