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Post Post #6520 (isolation #600) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:10 pm

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In post 6517, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6513, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6507, Almost50 wrote:Mechanically, the Masons (Myself, sb & MM) should now be confirmed to EVERYONE.

To the other hood, we've had a scum flip, we have one outed scum, and we have a pool of three than contains at least one scum, which leaves only 3 scum at max to be found according to their mod-provided info.

To everyone else, they either believe the Society (and their mod-provided info) = same as above, or they still doubt them, and if they assume they're still lying then we can't be scum either because that would be too many scums in the game.

I know I could've phrased it a hell lot better, but I'm out of focus right now, so that's all you'll get from me at this time.
that's actually helpful - i guess we are proper mech conftown now thanks to the other hood.
I hereby deem your hood the Switzerland of the game.

If anyone touches you you’ll have a sad Mathy :(
i assume i'm the last person who should be touched tbh, as i'm the least important member of the hood (as i only have 1 PT)
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Post Post #6522 (isolation #601) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:11 pm

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In post 6519, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i think mechanically we know at least one hood is town. that doesnt mean we know which hood is town or that both are.
no, mechanically their hood confirms our hood as town. we can't confirm their hood as town.
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Post Post #6525 (isolation #602) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:13 pm

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In post 6521, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yeah like A50 said, it's now mechanically proven that hood's cannot be scum. As all players in hoods are confirmed to each other + at least 3 scum confirmed to be outside any of the hoods.
strictly speaking the Titus-hood could still be scum, as the only reason we assume 5 scum is because of their claimed 'informed' info. it's conceptually possible that they are scum and there's actually a bigger scumteam, say 6.
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Post Post #6530 (isolation #603) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:14 pm

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In post 6524, Tayl0r Swift wrote:the society could be town that is wrongly trusting the other hood right? isnt that a possibility?
no - again, I defer to A50's explanation. their claim + Mod confirmed info, means we can't be scum now.
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Post Post #6533 (isolation #604) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:16 pm

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In post 6527, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mastina hood appears to be hunting town with us
In post 6527, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mastina hood appears to be hunting town
In post 6527, NorwegianboyEE wrote:hunting town
:lol:

also let's be fair, it's the Titus-hood.
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Post Post #6536 (isolation #605) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:18 pm

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i'm very comfortable flipping confscum today and seeing where we are tomorrow.
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Post Post #6538 (isolation #606) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:18 pm

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In post 6534, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6525, Morning Mage wrote:strictly speaking the Titus-hood could still be scum, as the only reason we assume 5 scum is because of their claimed 'informed' info. it's conceptually possible that they are scum and there's actually a bigger scumteam, say 6.
Ehhh... I guess, but that means all of Mastina/Titus/Nero have to be scum and i highly doubt that.
i mean it has to be all of them or none of them, as they all claimed each other are confirmed.
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Post Post #6540 (isolation #607) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:20 pm

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In post 6531, Bell wrote:No, just be clear here. You are confirmed the same alignment to each each other.

Yes or no.
i dont know if this is directed to me - if it is, you literally told me earlier today, correctly, that my hood was all conf-town to each other.
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Post Post #6541 (isolation #608) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:21 pm

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In post 6539, Bell wrote:You sure are a liar mm.
a liar? try me sweetcorn :lol:
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Post Post #6544 (isolation #609) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:22 pm

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In post 6542, Bell wrote:Okay so you are just talking from the perspective of the rest of the town.
That from our POV you can’t all be scum from that perspective.

Thank you and Jesus Christ.
i dont know what you're on about??
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Post Post #6545 (isolation #610) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:23 pm

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is there any way after this interaction that Bell could EVER be town? :lol:
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Post Post #6552 (isolation #611) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:25 pm

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In post 6547, Bell wrote:I agree that the entire interns are town+Ish.
Town enough. Maybe even more town than the rest of us.
Whichever.

Society tba.
we're mech conftown to you. unless you think there are 9+ scum (in which case, town would already be in the minority).
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Post Post #6555 (isolation #612) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:26 pm

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In post 6550, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6547, Bell wrote:I agree that the entire interns are town+Ish.
Town enough. Maybe even more town than the rest of us.
Whichever.

Society tba.
Ok i don't really like Bell acting like one of the hoods are fine but raising suspicion about the other.
and she is really worried about one of them being actually conftown from whole game perspective.
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Post Post #6560 (isolation #613) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:28 pm

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In post 6549, Bell wrote:
In post 6545, Morning Mage wrote:is there any way after this interaction that Bell could EVER be town? :lol:
You’re acting squirrelly.
Maybe it’s just your nature or how you talk.
...squirrelly?

I'm finding it difficult to see why Bell-town is so worried about more conftowns to the point of denying the fact they exist.
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Post Post #6563 (isolation #614) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:29 pm

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In post 6558, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6556, Bell wrote:Yes, but the way you were wording it was outright confusing to me. Because I thought you were all town and that the society wasn’t but then you said you thought they said they were confirmed the same alignment to them too. Which confused me.
Now you're confusing me too. What are you talking about?
everyone's confused. but she's just scum trying to work out what the hell is going on, now they are basically in a position where they can't make any wrong moves.
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Post Post #6564 (isolation #615) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 6561, Bell wrote:So I pushed you. Which you do not like even when it’s absolutely normal for me to want to have clarification on this point given how important it is to my understanding of the game.
i legit have no idea who you're talking to - would you be kind enough to quote the posts you're responding to?
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Post Post #6572 (isolation #616) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:35 pm

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In post 6566, Bell wrote:
In post 6563, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6558, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6556, Bell wrote:Yes, but the way you were wording it was outright confusing to me. Because I thought you were all town and that the society wasn’t but then you said you thought they said they were confirmed the same alignment to them too. Which confused me.
Now you're confusing me too. What are you talking about?
everyone's confused. but she's just scum trying to work out what the hell is going on, now they are basically in a position where they can't make any wrong moves.
Your lack of imagination is your problem.
i dont have a problem sweetheart, I have been following the game enough to know who is conftown and who isn't. :wink:

Spoiler:
I am. You aren't.
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Post Post #6573 (isolation #617) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:36 pm

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In post 6567, MathBlade wrote:Like my brain hurts.
if you're scum here with like Bell-Pete-Gamma and Taylor/TGP...you have my sympathy lol
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Post Post #6574 (isolation #618) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:37 pm

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In post 6571, Bell wrote:But suffice to say my understanding was that town+ all confirmed, society not but they’re assuming or they are.

Then MM said that Titus, mastina and Nero were all confirmed to each other.
we literally covered this pages ago. :facepalm:
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Post Post #6575 (isolation #619) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:38 pm

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or perhaps my lack of imagination is my problem :lol:
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Post Post #6579 (isolation #620) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:39 pm

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In post 6576, Bell wrote:You’re conflating your position in the game with your imagination outside of it.

It’s clear you’re weak to pressure and hate being given a hard time.
erm, I think you're just trying to make personal comments to me because you're weak at reading and can't understand what's going on even when I've just explained it to you twice.
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Post Post #6586 (isolation #621) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:43 pm

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In post 6581, Bell wrote:Nerocain still needs to be on that wagon.

I think.
I am amused that you can follow the specifics of Titus-hoods wincon but not anything about their alignment. :lol:
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Post Post #6594 (isolation #622) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:52 pm

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In post 6587, Bell wrote:
In post 6579, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6576, Bell wrote:You’re conflating your position in the game with your imagination outside of it.

It’s clear you’re weak to pressure and hate being given a hard time.
erm, I think you're just trying to make personal comments to me because you're weak at reading and can't understand what's going on even when I've just explained it to you twice.
Look, you suddenly said that the society were confirmed aligned with one another and then refused to find it.
The game is over 250 fucking pages. I'm also in a fucking hood with seemingly hundreds of pages. I have read LOTS of info, and I'm not going to trawl through everything to dig stuff out because you are too goddamn lazy to do it yourself. Show us some townie zeal! :yawn:

also I didn't "suddenly" say shit - we've talked about this for pages and pages.
In post 6587, Bell wrote: This hurt my understanding of the gamestate and I needed clarification. This in addition to the sudden argument from the perspective of everybody else confused me. So I wanted an answer to this question.
cry me a river
In post 6587, Bell wrote: and you called me scum for it.
I was calling you scum beforehand. You just made it even more obvious. :wink:
In post 6587, Bell wrote: If anyone lacks reading comprehension it’s you, if it’s not just an emotional reaction to being given a hard time there’s no substance to your scum read strengthening given my recent posts.
I don't think I can put much stock in your assessment of anyone else's reading comprehension, when you refuse to read anything for yourself. You've fallen apart here, and you're trying to cover your scumslip by crying for pity. :lol:
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Post Post #6598 (isolation #623) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:53 pm

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In post 6590, mastina wrote:
In post 6319, Morning Mage wrote:i guess, although why didnt scum shoot in the mason-pool?
If I had to guess: fear that shooting one will cause the town to universally trust the other five.
but the town was already doing that. i think, having experienced Day 4 so far, it's more likely that team-scum just didn't have a fking clue what was going on. :lol:
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Post Post #6601 (isolation #624) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:54 pm

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In post 6596, Bell wrote:Sure MM.
I guess I just recognize your emotional weakness because I do the same thing.

Or i’m projecting or both.

To me it’s pretty obvious tho.
aww, that's precious! :lol: die scum die!
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Post Post #6602 (isolation #625) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:55 pm

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In post 6599, Bell wrote:I can tell you’re not going to admit you’re Human anytime soon tho.
Go cool off.
lol how about you go and read the game, before you start telling everyone else they suck at reading?
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Post Post #6604 (isolation #626) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:56 pm

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i can't stand lazy scum at this stage of the game
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Post Post #6610 (isolation #627) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:57 pm

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In post 6605, superbowl9 wrote:Not gonna read can yall let me know if something important happens
ask Bell what's going on - you may get to experience the game all over again. :giggle:
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Post Post #6612 (isolation #628) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:59 pm

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In post 6608, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Another tunnel from BM.
it's not really a tunnel - my read hasn't changed/isn't changing. I'm just making the point that I don't care about people's personal shit. save that for mish-mash :lol:
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Post Post #6614 (isolation #629) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:01 pm

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I think Bell is probably the optimum play tomorrow as easily the most likely scum outside the Mod-conf block though. I hadn't realised earlier there were only 4 ppl left outside that group.
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Post Post #6618 (isolation #630) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:03 pm

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In post 6615, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 6610, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6605, superbowl9 wrote:Not gonna read can yall let me know if something important happens
ask Bell what's going on - you may get to experience the game all over again. :giggle:
I heard that there's apparently masons or something? Can anyone confirm that though it sounds a little too townsided...
what do you think about Gamma? pretty scummy, amirite?
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Post Post #6624 (isolation #631) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:06 pm

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In post 6617, mastina wrote:
In post 6384, Morning Mage wrote:ok hero solve time:
Bell - TGP - Pickaxe Pete - Mathblade
I actually lean town on Bell, here.
Mathblade may or may not be scum, depends on other factors which time will tell on.

There's still a fair chance Misty may be scum here, and while scum put one scum in the list of three last time, there's no guarantee they repeated the strategy, so even if the TGP callout is correct, I wouldn't put it past them to have changed things up, putting 2-3 of them in the list in a last-ditch-effort to throw us off.
If Bell is town here, it's entirely on her when she gets mis-elimmed - I didn't ask for much effort. :facepalm:
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Post Post #6626 (isolation #632) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:08 pm

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In post 6620, superbowl9 wrote:So if scum just need to outnumber town to win doesn't that make us at yelo?
maybe but we're doing pete today anyway. and if we have an even-night vig, they will shoot Bell. which should buy us a bit of breathing room.
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Post Post #6630 (isolation #633) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:09 pm

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In post 6627, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 6623, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Tayl0r are you gonna post or just quote my ingenious.
ive been shitposting hard for the past hour or so
i feel like everyone has been shitposting for pretty much the last 200 pages. :lol:
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Post Post #6639 (isolation #634) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:14 pm

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In post 6629, Bell wrote: I get confused and ask for clarification.
BM makes a bunch of posts talking to other people.
I get impatient and annoyed.
He answers: Great.
lol you got "impatient and annoyed" because i didnt immediately find you a post because you weren't reading? what the actual fk dude? and you're here talking about other people's feelings... :facepalm:
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Post Post #6640 (isolation #635) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:16 pm

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In post 6631, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6626, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6620, superbowl9 wrote:So if scum just need to outnumber town to win doesn't that make us at yelo?
maybe but we're doing pete today anyway. and if we have an even-night vig, they will shoot Bell. which should buy us a bit of breathing room.
Shooting BELL will give us breathing room?
ya coz bell scum
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Post Post #6641 (isolation #636) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:17 pm

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In post 6633, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6630, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6627, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 6623, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Tayl0r are you gonna post or just quote my ingenious.
ive been shitposting hard for the past hour or so
i feel like everyone has been shitposting for pretty much the last 200 pages. :lol:
I feel like that too :( Except I haven’t been :(
is it wrong that I'm getting "defeated scum" vibes from you today?
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Post Post #6646 (isolation #637) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:19 pm

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In post 6642, mastina wrote:
In post 6471, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Words on a screen can be more meaningful than you realize.
^
There's a damn good reason site staff will ban for ableism, racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia, and other forms of bigotry, from bigots who post words on a screen. The words on the screen carry meaning that can and will hurt.
...are you suggesting that i am a bigot? :eek:
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Post Post #6648 (isolation #638) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:20 pm

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In post 6645, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6641, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6633, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6630, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6627, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 6623, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Tayl0r are you gonna post or just quote my ingenious.
ive been shitposting hard for the past hour or so
i feel like everyone has been shitposting for pretty much the last 200 pages. :lol:
I feel like that too :( Except I haven’t been :(
is it wrong that I'm getting "defeated scum" vibes from you today?
Yes.

If I was scum I would be laughing at all the shit posting burying actual attempts at play.
i dunno, i think if you were scum you'd be disappointed at having put in proper effort only to be let down by crappy teammates and a seemingly unbalanced setup.
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Post Post #6652 (isolation #639) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:22 pm

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In post 6644, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6600, schadd_ wrote:Pickaxe Pete (5): MathBlade, Morning Mage, Titus, TheGoldenParadox, mastina
@Math
@MM
@TGP

If you could unvote I'd much appreciate it. You could revote at will after Nero has voted. Thank you.
I'm a team player baby...


which team, who the fuck knows.


UNVOTE:
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Post Post #6660 (isolation #640) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:24 pm

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In post 6655, mastina wrote:
In post 6493, Bell wrote:While nerocain, Titus, and Mastina are not.
Nero, Titus, and I are confirmed to each other, just as 3p not as town. :P
dont say that...she'll get really pissy now if you don't immediately find the post where that was first noted. :lol:
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Post Post #6664 (isolation #641) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:25 pm

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In post 6656, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6648, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6645, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6641, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6633, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6630, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6627, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 6623, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Tayl0r are you gonna post or just quote my ingenious.
ive been shitposting hard for the past hour or so
i feel like everyone has been shitposting for pretty much the last 200 pages. :lol:
I feel like that too :( Except I haven’t been :(
is it wrong that I'm getting "defeated scum" vibes from you today?
Yes.

If I was scum I would be laughing at all the shit posting burying actual attempts at play.
i dunno, i think if you were scum you'd be disappointed at having put in proper effort only to be let down by crappy teammates and a seemingly unbalanced setup.
Nah. I have broken the setup ages ago tbh.

Just no one would believe me if I said what it was and would be antitown to share sooooo.
i'm listening dude
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Post Post #6676 (isolation #642) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:36 pm

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pagetop
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Post Post #6678 (isolation #643) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:36 pm

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damn you shelly...
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Post Post #6681 (isolation #644) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:37 pm

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In post 6675, shellyc wrote:
In post 6301, schadd_ wrote:at least one of the following players is in King Doris Donatello's Army:
shellyc
Tayl0r Swift
TheGoldenParadox
ummmmmmmm

tgp probscum
pete still scum
i believe you shelly. now, what do you think of Bell and Mathblade?
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Post Post #6683 (isolation #645) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:38 pm

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In post 6682, shellyc wrote:
In post 6661, mastina wrote:All three of the names in the list should claim imo.
Vanilla Townie
hmm...consistent
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Post Post #6688 (isolation #646) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:40 pm

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In post 6684, shellyc wrote:
In post 6681, Morning Mage wrote:i believe you shelly. now, what do you think of Bell and Mathblade?
math: townlean since forever, the trajectory of doubting the masons -> believing the masons is pretty nice, nothing much pings there
bell: used to scumlean but for reasons I will not discuss it has been weakened. if there's a spot missing in my poe they'll go there, iso isn't the most spicy
why can't you discuss the reasons? site rules, or something else?
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Post Post #6698 (isolation #647) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:47 pm

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In post 6696, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6687, mastina wrote:But this is probably a topic better suited for a GD/Speakeasy thread rather than a talking point in a mafia game.
That place is the worst of all.

Btw BM can you stop calling Bell a she from now on. It’s fine if it’s by accident but try to avoid doing it.
yep that's my bad. My daughter is really into disney princesses, so when I see the name Bell, I am immediately thinking of Belle from sleeping beauty.
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Post Post #6700 (isolation #648) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:47 pm

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In post 6694, shellyc wrote:lol
yo quit spamming the thread
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Post Post #6702 (isolation #649) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:48 pm

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please
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Post Post #6703 (isolation #650) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:48 pm

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In post 6701, Bell wrote:this game’s a lot closer to being solved and almost inescapably solved?

Shouldn’t the scum team concede?
Can they even win anymore?
they can't win, yes they should definitely concede
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Post Post #6705 (isolation #651) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:50 pm

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In post 6704, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6703, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6701, Bell wrote:this game’s a lot closer to being solved and almost inescapably solved?

Shouldn’t the scum team concede?
Can they even win anymore?
they can't win, yes they should definitely concede
Scum should clearly concede why haven’t they?

What is up with their scum kills?
skills? or did you mean kills? :D
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Post Post #6708 (isolation #652) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:51 pm

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In post 6706, Bell wrote:Guess we’ll find out next day phase or two.
Or the game ends.
Either or.
i dont mind if you wanna stall it out - it'll make victory even sweeter!
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Post Post #6712 (isolation #653) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:52 pm

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In post 6707, MathBlade wrote:Clearly there’s something worth investigating imho because IF my theory is right something will happen tonight.

Huge if.

Watch me die

Fuck
hmm you promised me it would be ok fam
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Post Post #6713 (isolation #654) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:53 pm

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In post 6711, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6709, Pickaxe Pete wrote:Looks to me in this bum rush to nowhere a couple of people are trying to signal things but I'm not sure what.
You’re literally mod confirmed scum.
lol, it would be impressive if Pete can talk his way out of this one though :lol:
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Post Post #6714 (isolation #655) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:53 pm

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i love the idea that Pete doesnt yet realise he is definitely getting elimmed today :D
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Post Post #6723 (isolation #656) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:56 pm

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im gonna have to log off shortly...i've got a bad case of bum rush... :D
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Post Post #6724 (isolation #657) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:56 pm

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i literally got peditted 5 fking times to say that...hardly worth it lol
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Post Post #6726 (isolation #658) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:58 pm

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In post 6720, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6712, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6707, MathBlade wrote:Clearly there’s something worth investigating imho because IF my theory is right something will happen tonight.

Huge if.

Watch me die

Fuck
hmm you promised me it would be ok fam
It’ll be okay for you always <3

But for me....


That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my non shot posting
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no, I've said too much
I haven't said enough
excellent, give me some more to work with
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Post Post #6727 (isolation #659) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:59 pm

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In post 6725, NorwegianboyEE wrote:This forum should have a "Just post this reply damn it all" button.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #6728 (isolation #660) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:59 pm

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i literally cried laughing at that norweg
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Post Post #6737 (isolation #661) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:33 pm

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VOTE: pete
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Post Post #6739 (isolation #662) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:34 pm

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in 2 minds about that one?
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Post Post #6741 (isolation #663) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:36 pm

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harsh words!
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Post Post #6961 (isolation #664) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:12 pm

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ah damnit alt slip
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Post Post #6965 (isolation #665) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:16 pm

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I'd also recommend being very wary of the "elim Taylor" gambit from the Nero-hood. Suggest it's not a coincidence that she was recruited last night and is now their preferred elim today.
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Post Post #6967 (isolation #666) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:19 pm

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In post 6963, shellyc wrote:altslip

MT modded a recent scum!me game, its pretty clear that this clearly isn't scum!me meta-wise, gamestate-wise, if you're in the hood better look at what neros saying
MT believes you're scum - sorry!

and I know exactly what Nero is doing - I'm assuming you don't as you're not in either hood.
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Post Post #6969 (isolation #667) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:21 pm

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In post 6966, shellyc wrote:
In post 6965, Morning Mage wrote:I'd also recommend being very wary of the "elim Taylor" gambit from the Nero-hood. Suggest it's not a coincidence that she was recruited last night and is now their preferred elim today.
read the thread again please.

Tayl0r was their SR and was recruited for a reason.
lol here's a clue: the answer isn't in
this
thread.
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Post Post #6972 (isolation #668) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:24 pm

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In post 6968, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Might as well just say it at this point.
Any of our recruited members have the ability to suicide without ending the day by bolding it in the hood PT. We recruited Tayl0r explicitly for this purpose as we were planning on using this ability to lower the PoE faster without letting scum nightkill conf!town. But Taylor is refusing to comply.
yeah this is exactly what i thought, and was inferring above. Nero doesn't actually necessarily think Taylor is scum, he just picked someone at random to add to the hood and then put pressure on.
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Post Post #6978 (isolation #669) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:29 pm

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I can understand the gambit. It seems like it benefits the Nero-hood's 3p wincon and the town wincon if done effectively. the theory would be that taylor-town would self destruct and get an extra day-elim, whereas taylor-scum wouldn't. although in reality, i could easily believe that taylor-town wouldn't play ball so it doesnt convince me she is scum.
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Post Post #6979 (isolation #670) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:30 pm

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In post 6976, NorwegianboyEE wrote:BM i’m glad we didn’t recruit you.
lol so am I. I was hoping to get NKed, but this was the next best thing. :D
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Post Post #6980 (isolation #671) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:31 pm

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In post 6975, Titus wrote:
In post 6972, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6968, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Might as well just say it at this point.
Any of our recruited members have the ability to suicide without ending the day by bolding it in the hood PT. We recruited Tayl0r explicitly for this purpose as we were planning on using this ability to lower the PoE faster without letting scum nightkill conf!town. But Taylor is refusing to comply.
yeah this is exactly what i thought, and was inferring above. Nero doesn't actually necessarily think Taylor is scum, he just picked someone at random to add to the hood and then put pressure on.
I picked Taylor. No one else would make the call. So I picked based on VCA, not play.
I wouldve picked based on who would be most likely to run with the gambit. which would probably have been TGP.
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Post Post #6981 (isolation #672) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:32 pm

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In post 6973, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6972, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6968, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Might as well just say it at this point.
Any of our recruited members have the ability to suicide without ending the day by bolding it in the hood PT. We recruited Tayl0r explicitly for this purpose as we were planning on using this ability to lower the PoE faster without letting scum nightkill conf!town. But Taylor is refusing to comply.
yeah this is exactly what i thought, and was inferring above. Nero doesn't actually necessarily think Taylor is scum, he just picked someone at random to add to the hood and then put pressure on.
This wasn’t even Nero’s idea.
that's just an abbreviation for the Nero-hood dw.
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Post Post #6982 (isolation #673) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:32 pm

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^Shelly was attacking Taylor off the back of Nero's comments
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Post Post #6984 (isolation #674) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:34 pm

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In post 6983, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If Taylor is town they should be understanding what we’re trying to do here.
They are hard to read, they haven’t done anything super town indicative, they claimed just a VT, they are suspected by many to be scum.
If they suicide we can clear scummy slots from the PoE with keeping the towncore intact. Their refusing to agree to the plan is scum indicative. It is anti-town to refuse here.
yes, i understand all of the above. there are flaws in the gambit of course, but it isn't in anyone's interests for me to point those out.
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Post Post #6987 (isolation #675) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:38 pm

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In post 6953, Tayl0r Swift wrote:yeah so nero both calls me scum for reading the thread and for not reading it in that span. i read the last few pages and from the beginning.
Taylor, in case you haven't caught up on the last page, they have basically picked you at random as a sacrifice from the Mod's list of potential scum and if you don't self-destruct you'll be day-elimmed. Sorry...

VOTE: Taylor
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Post Post #6989 (isolation #676) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:40 pm

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In post 6986, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6981, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6973, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6972, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 6968, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Might as well just say it at this point.
Any of our recruited members have the ability to suicide without ending the day by bolding it in the hood PT. We recruited Tayl0r explicitly for this purpose as we were planning on using this ability to lower the PoE faster without letting scum nightkill conf!town. But Taylor is refusing to comply.
yeah this is exactly what i thought, and was inferring above. Nero doesn't actually necessarily think Taylor is scum, he just picked someone at random to add to the hood and then put pressure on.
This wasn’t even Nero’s idea.
that's just an abbreviation for the Nero-hood dw.
You were clearly referring to Nero Cain.
No, but it clearly doesn't matter. The Nero-Hood is running a gambit to argue Taylor is scum, Nero in particular was a big proponent of it in this thread. Come on, let's not argue about this. :facepalm:
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Post Post #6991 (isolation #677) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:43 pm

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In post 6988, NorwegianboyEE wrote:UNVOTE:
So no lolhammer.
Also i don’t really need to place a vote tbh. Leaving it up to everyone else.
:facepalm:

we're either doing it or not doing it dude - you were advocating for it a few posts ago. And if we were doing it, it would be in the interests of town for you to place a vote.
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Post Post #6992 (isolation #678) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:45 pm

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In post 6990, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Do you agree with this gambit or not MM.
I already said I did - don't you believe me?

but I'm also not really up for fucking around, so if you're not committing to it, I'll go back to good-old-fashioned elim the most likely scum:

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Shelly
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Post Post #6993 (isolation #679) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:47 pm

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In post 6926, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 6913, shellyc wrote:why does taylor only pop up when pushed btw
wtf are you talking about? its not me appearing when i get pushed. its me appearing in the hood and posting that caused me to get pushed. so since im reading that PT of course im around to respond. the fucking moonlogic people are using to scumread me tonight.
I'm genuinely curious about your thoughts on the hood from what you've read. Others have joined and been wowed by their towniness - do you agree?
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Post Post #6995 (isolation #680) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:49 pm

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what's that in reference to?
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Post Post #6999 (isolation #681) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:52 pm

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In post 6996, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6992, Morning Mage wrote:I already said I did - don't you believe me?

but I'm also not really up for fucking around, so if you're not committing to it, I'll go back to good-old-fashioned elim the most likely scum:
So you don’t agree.
As i thought.
eh, apparently i agree more than you, as you're the one not willing to actually see it through. :giggle:

Don't you realise that if you don't put your money where your mouth is, this gambit becomes painfully slow to play out?
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Post Post #7000 (isolation #682) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:53 pm

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In post 6997, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6995, Morning Mage wrote:what's that in reference to?
The colour of their flip:
In post 6762, schadd_ wrote:mastina was Destructed in the night! she was a Tracker Appointer* from the Henry P. Jurgenssen Society.
what point are you trying to make?
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Post Post #7003 (isolation #683) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:55 pm

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In post 6841, shellyc wrote:
In post 6838, Nero Cain wrote:Where in Asia you @ shelly?
i live in hong kong

mastina kill also makes sense because mastina was TR of my pred a lot
you think the mastina kill makes sense because samantha (who barely posted, and replaced out days ago) townread them? eh...
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Post Post #7004 (isolation #684) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:56 pm

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In post 7001, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I just don’t want an early lolhammer dude. The goal isn’t for an elimination before we get a potantial mass claim or Tayl0r agrees to help out.
Quote: We’re really arguing about this now?
we were nowhere near a lolhammer. we were getting close to the point of actual pressure. currently taylor isn't even the biggest wagon by my count.
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Post Post #7005 (isolation #685) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:57 pm

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In post 7002, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6998, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6762, schadd_ wrote:
Tracker Appointer* from the Henry P. Jurgenssen Society.
That this isn’t an scum role, thus explaining that Tayl0rs paranoia of the hood isn’t genuine.
eh maybe. but i think if i was town-Taylor in this situation I'd be pretty wary because of how everything has been playing out. you gotta see it from a non-hood perspective.
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Post Post #7006 (isolation #686) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:59 pm

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to keep it simply Norweg, if you can't prove there's a majority there to elim Taylor, she ain't gonna go with your gambit so it's a waste of time which we could be spending scumhunting in good faith.
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Post Post #7008 (isolation #687) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:02 pm

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In post 6766, Bell wrote:Repeating:
Town+
: A50, SB, MM.

Town:
Norwe:
Bell.

Achieved win condition:
Titus, Nerocain. Mastina. Town siding.

Why no announcement?
I love the idea that Bell-scum is counting on Titus-Nero-Mastina 'scum siding' once they achieve their wincon :lol:
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Post Post #7009 (isolation #688) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:05 pm

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In post 6774, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6771, Bell wrote:Who's the 6th confirmed townie.
I feel like scum for asking this.
But I expect to be getting' some shit.
Titus,Nero,A50’s hood, Norway are all confirmed not Army.

VOTE: Shellyc

I wholeheartedly agree. Shelly imho scumslipped hard eod.
yeah I agree. if shelly scum, likely to be a goon too given scum not wanting to give up any PRs first, and the early VT claim.
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Post Post #7010 (isolation #689) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:10 pm

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it feels like everyone has forgotten that Shelly's predecessor (samantha) final post before leaving the game was a rant at the Mod for giving town an edge by conftowning Ban Hydras.

Which wasn't actually a fair interpretation, but was likely something that the scumteam collectively agreed with as they NKed Ban Hydras the next night.

And more importantly, it's much easier to see scum quitting in frustration at their own team being adversely impacted, than town quitting in sympathy with the scum-team after being given a slight edge.
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Post Post #7016 (isolation #690) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:38 pm

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In post 7013, shellyc wrote:MM you're letting scum!taylor go off and pushing it onto town!shelly with your devil-advocate play, as you'll see when I flip, and you've been pretty anti throughout.

/rant
lol my reads have been pretty good during this game, better than most people. and no, im not going to be dissuaded from voting you based on a defence of "BM you suck, I will flip town". don't think the irony of you trying to cajol me into gunning for Taylor is lost on me. :lol:
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Post Post #7017 (isolation #691) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:39 pm

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In post 7015, shellyc wrote:if we get one more mechclear we just have auto actually and if we hit scum today I think its an autoloss for scum.
this is not even nearly true by our count.
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Post Post #7164 (isolation #692) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:46 am

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In post 7153, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 7142, Bell wrote:Taylor probs still scum tho, just cause math.
And she hasn’t been a bastion of townieness this game.

Titus, town buddy town too you know.
But it doesn’t matter or rather this is conjecture that I’m entertaining with the thought that none of this will ultimately matter as long as you don’t make the mistake of mis-eliminating me.
In post 7144, Bell wrote:
In post 7141, TheGoldenParadox wrote:VOTE: taylor

math, bell, this argument is ridiculous.
when you have 6 conftowns, 4 townies, and 3 scum, using what amounts to a loyal vig shot is pro-town because it either hits scum (taylor) or introduces the Double Day mechanic into the game. If taylor is town, she should suicide - if she's scum, she should not. it's that simple. since she is refusing to suicide, she must be scum.
It’s just so dumb and convoluted when what they really wanna say is “we think Taylor is scum and think we should eliminate them”

Which is fine. It’s just weird.
y'all can recruit me tonight and i will suicide - if i do not, it will be tatamount to a scumclaim.
i know dude, i was surprised they didn't target you last night for this very reason.
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Post Post #7165 (isolation #693) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:47 am

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In post 7156, Titus wrote:
In post 7153, TheGoldenParadox wrote:y'all can recruit me tonight and i will suicide - if i do not, it will be tatamount to a scumclaim.
Noted: But I want to try and target scum with it unless Nero and I suddenly can't agree...
you really dont think either Shelly or TGP can be scum??
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Post Post #7167 (isolation #694) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:50 am

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In post 7125, Bell wrote:
In post 7121, Titus wrote:
In post 7117, Bell wrote:
In post 7115, Titus wrote:Why can't Taylor be scum?
Why can't Chemist be scum?

Or are you just objecting to Math/yourself being the third?
The latter.

Join us on Taylor then? Nero and I are both on.

Ok, let's suppose that it's not you or Math despite you defending the possibility of Taylor gamethrowing. Who would be the last scum? SS? Why?
I’m failing to see how Taylor is game throwing by declining to kill herself.

Because PoE. Ya. Or Shelly, or POD.
It really doesn’t matter which way we go here as long as it’s not me and my one town read.
Even if both math and I are a scum team I think we still lose even if we’re saved till last.

At least you recognized that we’re not scum partners.
eh, this doesn't look great for Taylor. :eek: i'd have thought the basic strategy would be an easily understandable concept, notwithstanding it's still possible for non-hood to be wary of hood.
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Post Post #7169 (isolation #695) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:51 am

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i was vaguely surprised at the mastina kill. least active player in either hood.
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Post Post #7170 (isolation #696) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:53 am

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In post 7018, shellyc wrote:
In post 7017, Morning Mage wrote:this is not even nearly true by our count.
eh?

there are 13 players and 6 conftowns including norway, you, Superbowl, A50, nero, titus
i know something you don't know
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Post Post #7171 (isolation #697) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:54 am

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In post 7019, Nero Cain wrote:if shelly is scum she's just giving up and we can eliminate her tomorrow
why not today? if you get taylor to self-destruct as town, surely we can elim Shelly today?
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Post Post #7173 (isolation #698) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:55 am

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In post 7020, Nero Cain wrote:there's enough town power to eliminate all of taylor, shelly, tpg, and chemist. And there's 2 scum there so the last scum is in

Something_Smart
MathBlade
Bell


and I think you just 1v1 math and smart.
of those 3, I think it's significantly more likely to be Bell than either Math or SS.
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Post Post #7176 (isolation #699) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:56 am

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In post 7172, Titus wrote:
In post 7171, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7019, Nero Cain wrote:if shelly is scum she's just giving up and we can eliminate her tomorrow
why not today? if you get taylor to self-destruct as town, surely we can elim Shelly today?
I would be ok with this.
works for me too! i haven't caught up yet though - last i checked, your Taylor wagon had already fallen apart
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Post Post #7178 (isolation #700) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:57 am

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In post 7175, Titus wrote:
In post 7165, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7156, Titus wrote:
In post 7153, TheGoldenParadox wrote:y'all can recruit me tonight and i will suicide - if i do not, it will be tatamount to a scumclaim.
Noted: But I want to try and target scum with it unless Nero and I suddenly can't agree...
you really dont think either Shelly or TGP can be scum??
No, we're both firmly in Chemist scum camp though.
I don't really have a strong view of Chemist, which given the amount of other scummy players makes her likely town by process of elimination, in my opinion. i wonder if you're thinking partly because of the way the Mod reveals have gone, it tends towards Taylor and Chemist as a pair? i could sympathise with that logic.
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Post Post #7179 (isolation #701) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:58 am

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In post 7177, Titus wrote:
In post 7176, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7172, Titus wrote:
In post 7171, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7019, Nero Cain wrote:if shelly is scum she's just giving up and we can eliminate her tomorrow
why not today? if you get taylor to self-destruct as town, surely we can elim Shelly today?
I would be ok with this.
works for me too! i haven't caught up yet though - last i checked, your Taylor wagon had already fallen apart
A VC should prove that is not the case.
you may be correct - i'm still catching up
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Post Post #7183 (isolation #702) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:04 am

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In post 7026, MathBlade wrote:Nero said he doesn’t care about his wincon.

This means he is 100% gamethrowing here.

Nero claimed 3P townsiding.

If gamethrowing he is scumsiding.

This means Taylor has to be town.
My friend, I am afraid you are mistaken in your reasoning here. In my view it's infinitely more likely that Nero does care about his wincon and is seeking to achieve it. In either case, I don't think it necessarily has any bearing on Taylor's alignment - even if Nero was scumsiding, I don't think he knows whether Taylor is scum or town.
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Post Post #7184 (isolation #703) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:04 am

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In post 7180, TheGoldenParadox wrote:mastina was killed because she scumread misty/taylor/shelly and townread me. It's that simple.
who is misty?
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Post Post #7186 (isolation #704) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:07 am

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In post 7181, Titus wrote:
In post 7178, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7175, Titus wrote:
In post 7165, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7156, Titus wrote:
In post 7153, TheGoldenParadox wrote:y'all can recruit me tonight and i will suicide - if i do not, it will be tatamount to a scumclaim.
Noted: But I want to try and target scum with it unless Nero and I suddenly can't agree...
you really dont think either Shelly or TGP can be scum??
No, we're both firmly in Chemist scum camp though.
I don't really have a strong view of Chemist, which given the amount of other scummy players makes her likely town by process of elimination, in my opinion. i wonder if you're thinking partly because of the way the Mod reveals have gone, it tends towards Taylor and Chemist as a pair? i could sympathise with that logic.
Partially that. Partly mastina dying and her case on Chemist claim. Partially VCA
ah yes i forgot the whole chemist claim thing. I did buy it at the time, so I'll stick with Chemist town for now. if Taylor is town, Chemist falls way down the list anyway (as no reason for scum-TGP/scum-Shelly to put another one of their buddies in the Mod list, although appreciate there's a modicum of WIFOM there)
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Post Post #7187 (isolation #705) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:08 am

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In post 7185, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 6994, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mastina flip is light green. I don’t see how anyone would construe that as scummy at this point.
except their wincon is explicitly not town's wincon. and the other 3p group flips as grey.
do we? i didnt think any of us had flipped yet? lol
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Post Post #7190 (isolation #706) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:11 am

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In post 7180, TheGoldenParadox wrote:mastina was killed because she scumread misty/taylor/shelly and townread me. It's that simple.
maybe but i highly doubt it's all 3 of those. it could be scum-shelly or scum-taylor plus scum-chemist. But I think if Taylor is town, I'm not remotely interested in flipping Chemist. and I also think shelly-scum implies tgp-town and vice versa.
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Post Post #7192 (isolation #707) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:13 am

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In post 7032, MathBlade wrote:I don’t respond to someone saying they’ve given up on winning either. Y’all are a ton of sheep not even reading posts anymore. That’s painfully obvious.
I'm no sheep - this hydra thinks for itself.
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Post Post #7199 (isolation #708) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:19 am

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In post 7191, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 7035, Bell wrote:Actually I retract that last part.
Taylor swift, Mysterious Lady.
Not necessarily a team player.
my first posts were to ask them in private to clarify and have them gain my trust. their response was to go public and say i must be scum. i figured better to ask stuff in private and not out any info than ask here.

but now ill ask:

if a 3p came to you and said "for our wincon we need you to kill yourself, please kill yourself, itll also narrow PoE" would you do it? cuz to me 3p who have achieved their wincon arent trustworthy, so theres at least no reason for me to kill myself *today*. they can leave the game once they win if they want. there is also an implication that they have a non town-aligned wincon that theyre hiding since they keep talking about "choosing" to townside. to me killing town is bad even if it narrows PoE. maybe at some point im willing to do it for them, but not today.
speaking as a mech-conftown, but someone who does not always see eye-to-eye with the other hood, I will give you my honest opinion:

It's reasonable not to trust them, and to be wary of their wincon, and the concerns you raise above are sensible. However, I've concluded that their plan does work in the interests of their town and although if you're town it sucks, you should go with it. It means we can still potentially elim scum today and avoid giving scum a free NK. Hopefully you now realise it was all a ruse and they never really thought you were necessarily scum, you were just randomly selected from the pool - so don't feel bad on that front.
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Post Post #7200 (isolation #709) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:21 am

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In post 7193, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 7189, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7187, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7185, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 6994, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mastina flip is light green. I don’t see how anyone would construe that as scummy at this point.
except their wincon is explicitly not town's wincon. and the other 3p group flips as grey.
do we? i didnt think any of us had flipped yet? lol
Yeah that's definitely a TMI lol.
except you know for a fact that its not a TMI. its there in the hood. A50 said they flip as grey.
ah well you learn something new every day. i didn't consider it a TMI anyway.
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Post Post #7202 (isolation #710) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:22 am

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In post 7198, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Anyway, you don't need to worry about self-terminating anymore Tayl0r, because you are the elimination today.
i think it would be sensible to give her a fair chance to self-terminate - if she is town and we elim her today, we suck. hopefully now she realises it's serious.
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Post Post #7205 (isolation #711) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:26 am

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In post 7201, Almost50 wrote:big permutations
Are you saying you weren't complicit in the Titus/Nero strategy for today? Don't you see that taking momentum away from it is weakening their ability to run the gambit at all?

What's the value of setting out all the permutations? How does it help our decision?
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Post Post #7209 (isolation #712) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:29 am

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In post 7204, Tayl0r Swift wrote:im never killing myself today. i dont mind killing myself down the line when a town win looks more assured. until then we need the 3p not to have won so that they dont just dip out and leave town weaker.
I understand and sympathise, but we probably have to flip you then unfortunately - not my choice as i don't think you're the most likely scum, but in my view the relative downside of the Titus-hood fulfilling their wincon is outweighed by the relative upside of being able to narrow down the potential scum-pool today. Sorry.
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Post Post #7211 (isolation #713) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:30 am

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In post 7208, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6774, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6771, Bell wrote:Who's the 6th confirmed townie.
I feel like scum for asking this.
But I expect to be getting' some shit.
Titus,Nero,A50’s hood, Norway are all confirmed not Army.

VOTE: Shellyc

I wholeheartedly agree. Shelly imho scumslipped hard eod.
Very VERY bad vote. I've come to expect better from you, so I am bit disappointed here.
I will say in defence of Mathblade, I thought this was a perfectly good vote.
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Post Post #7212 (isolation #714) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:31 am

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In post 7210, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6777, Bell wrote:I'm on a quest to be able to Read shellyC and I did not see her scum game. This game.
._.
I guess she was salty at the set up.

@Pedit; Oh, okay Math.
So why are you voting her then?
^ a good question
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Post Post #7214 (isolation #715) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:32 am

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In post 7207, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7204, Tayl0r Swift wrote:im never killing myself today. i dont mind killing myself down the line when a town win looks more assured. until then we need the 3p not to have won so that they dont just dip out and leave town weaker.
And why wouldn't scum!you make this exact sort of argument to stay alive? Can you tell me that?
yeah this is basically the problem. again, the day basically plays itself because of the decision your hood made during the night.
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Post Post #7215 (isolation #716) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:33 am

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In post 7203, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 7200, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7193, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 7189, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7187, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7185, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 6994, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mastina flip is light green. I don’t see how anyone would construe that as scummy at this point.
except their wincon is explicitly not town's wincon. and the other 3p group flips as grey.
do we? i didnt think any of us had flipped yet? lol
Yeah that's definitely a TMI lol.
except you know for a fact that its not a TMI. its there in the hood. A50 said they flip as grey.
ah well you learn something new every day. i didn't consider it a TMI anyway.
well he said that about your group. that you flip as grey.
he might have made it up, who knows
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Post Post #7217 (isolation #717) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:35 am

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In post 7037, MathBlade wrote:Like you’re wagoning someone for not dying to reduce PoE when literally any Townie dying reduces PoE sure. But it also gives scum a chance to fuckin win.

This game should be on damn lock. I do not follow what the fuck the hood is doing.
it gives us 2 day-elims though effectively.
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Post Post #7220 (isolation #718) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:37 am

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In post 7038, Bell wrote:....
They're accelerating the game that from my perspective can only really be a good thing.
She can also control who she blows up on, so they're giving her the option to pick whoever she wants.
If she's scum she should just explode on one of the town or whatever.
If she's town, she's got pretty good shot of just hitting scum.
i mean math is right it's mainly a good thing if they have half-decent reads. but law of averages suggests they will eventually get it right. i have no idea where you got the bombing idea from.
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Post Post #7221 (isolation #719) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:39 am

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In post 7042, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7040, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7036, MathBlade wrote:This game is practically a lock for us if we just go through the eliminations and down the PoE
And how is this not exactly what we are doing?
Because the game is on lock if it’s lynch,kill,lynch,kill

It is not on lock if random townies die all over the place giving scum a second kill.
you've misread the situation here
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Post Post #7222 (isolation #720) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:39 am

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In post 7043, Bell wrote:Oh.
she doesn't get to kill anyone.
Yeah.
She's never going to do that you silly people.
she should do it if she's town, that's the point though.
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Post Post #7223 (isolation #721) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:40 am

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^honestly, i cant believe Bell is not everyone's top scumread this game lol
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Post Post #7224 (isolation #722) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:42 am

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In post 7045, Bell wrote:NGL, inviting scum to a hood with 30 pages in it so they can have the option to kill themselves is...
Not great.
you know Taylor is scum then? if Taylor flips scum, this is a clear buddy-slip.
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Post Post #7225 (isolation #723) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:44 am

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In post 7048, Bell wrote:It's literally never in your interest to suicide.
I don't think the information trade was worth it.
But I mean, I don't really care.
town plays for town though - it's in town's interest for her to do it, with so many conftowns.
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Post Post #7228 (isolation #724) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:54 am

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In post 7069, Titus wrote:
In post 7066, MathBlade wrote:She says Yes she scum sides when she’s dead and gave scum an extra kill.

She says No she’s scum because she disagrees with you
Dying here as town isn't scumsiding. It's like being shot by a vig, just during the day.
i can confirm i have been delighted to be shot by a vig as town before, because i was nailed on to get mis-elimmed the following day.
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Post Post #7229 (isolation #725) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:55 am

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UNVOTE: at least until i catch up
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Post Post #7230 (isolation #726) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:56 am

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yo Titus, you're REALLY confident on taylor being scum huh?
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Post Post #7232 (isolation #727) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:02 am

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In post 7231, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm already popping the champagne. Battle Mage.
i mean them specifically - i thought it would be important they got this right?
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Post Post #7233 (isolation #728) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:04 am

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In post 7082, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7080, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7079, MathBlade wrote:Miseliminating her is 100% better if she is town because then one more Townie goes into night assuming the elim is also town.
??
What are you smoking bro.
13 alive. 1 mislynch + 2 town deaths = 3 deaths a day phase.

10 next day.

This is BAD, because of something I am not supposed to say fuckin damn it.

If I have to go into the numbers and do it for you then I have to say the thing I am not supposed to say.
I actually think you should say it dude. like now.
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Post Post #7235 (isolation #729) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:06 am

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In post 7092, MathBlade wrote: Me +Bell +Taylor is a literal impossibility.
is it? can someone explain?
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Post Post #7236 (isolation #730) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:07 am

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In post 7234, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Oh yeah, we were thinking about doing a mass claim weren't me.
Which players have not claimed yet?
dunno, i want math to spill the beans though, it sounds important.
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Post Post #7238 (isolation #731) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:11 am

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In post 7116, Bell wrote:You’re right though, that if Taylor isn’t scum, I likely am. Just due to percentages, but I mean,
I mean, you're likely scum regardless. But clearly more likely if Taylor IS scum, given posts like this and others I have already pointed. Massive partner-equity.
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Post Post #7239 (isolation #732) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:12 am

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In post 7237, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm at the point where i'd like us to keep discussing, but wouldn't cry if Tayl0r was hammered here. I really don't think town!them would have played the situation out like this.
please just promise me we're flipping Bell tomorrow if Taylor is scum.

Presumably followed by Chemist -> Math to finish.
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Post Post #7242 (isolation #733) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:14 am

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In post 7124, Titus wrote:Mathblade's refusal to do VCA here, when it's patently clear we are townsiding is a big reason I scumread them.

For all their talk of I am wrong, Math won't step up and show where. Town!Math would.
I sorta agree - I feel like Math has been so far off the mark today, when up until now he has talked total sense. I'm baffled.
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Post Post #7243 (isolation #734) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:15 am

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In post 7241, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7233, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7082, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7080, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7079, MathBlade wrote:Miseliminating her is 100% better if she is town because then one more Townie goes into night assuming the elim is also town.
??
What are you smoking bro.
13 alive. 1 mislynch + 2 town deaths = 3 deaths a day phase.

10 next day.

This is BAD, because of something I am not supposed to say fuckin damn it.

If I have to go into the numbers and do it for you then I have to say the thing I am not supposed to say.
I actually think you should say it dude. like now.
Are you sure? I can’t un pop the lid once it is said.
i think we're at the point where the game is going to play itself out - time to put cards on the table mate - preferably before a hammer.
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Post Post #7244 (isolation #735) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:15 am

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so yes i'm sure
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Post Post #7248 (isolation #736) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:18 am

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In post 7245, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7243, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7241, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7233, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7082, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7080, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7079, MathBlade wrote:Miseliminating her is 100% better if she is town because then one more Townie goes into night assuming the elim is also town.
??
What are you smoking bro.
13 alive. 1 mislynch + 2 town deaths = 3 deaths a day phase.

10 next day.

This is BAD, because of something I am not supposed to say fuckin damn it.

If I have to go into the numbers and do it for you then I have to say the thing I am not supposed to say.
I actually think you should say it dude. like now.
Are you sure? I can’t un pop the lid once it is said.
i think we're at the point where the game is going to play itself out - time to put cards on the table mate - preferably before a hammer.

Y’all are neuts not town. You’ve crumbed it several times.
what do you mean? i've got a town wincon.
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Post Post #7251 (isolation #737) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:18 am

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In post 7246, MathBlade wrote:Scum have a traitor or two, probably former.

So literally I think this may be lylo or close to it if we fuck it up
talk me through your thinking please.
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Post Post #7256 (isolation #738) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:21 am

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math did you fullclaim yet? i wanna hear more about the traitor theory
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Post Post #7257 (isolation #739) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:21 am

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ok ill wait an hour
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Post Post #7261 (isolation #740) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:23 am

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Math, see if you can finish work early lol, this is more important! (maybe :lol:)
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Post Post #7288 (isolation #741) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:54 am

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In post 7280, MathBlade wrote:Work is going to be longer sorry y’all

Short version is I am a neutral xshot doc. Healed Norway D2 and DS D3

Game is 5 town (2 hood 3 reg) 4 scum (3 army one traitor) 4 neuts.

Neuts literally decide who wins. So hence why I wanna be in Titus’s hood is going to do it.

Because Neuts A50+Superbowl+MM literally decide who wins
i'm lost...what are you talking about?

5 town including 2 hood? 4 neutrals? what's the point of a neutral doc? argh, i need more clarity man
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Post Post #7290 (isolation #742) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:56 am

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Math, I do think that you've fundamentally misunderstood the setup here?

We aren't neutral - A50, superbowl and I are effectively TOWN as we share the town wincon. There is no scenario in which we choose to scumside.
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Post Post #7293 (isolation #743) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:58 am

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In post 7289, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7288, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7280, MathBlade wrote:Work is going to be longer sorry y’all

Short version is I am a neutral xshot doc. Healed Norway D2 and DS D3

Game is 5 town (2 hood 3 reg) 4 scum (3 army one traitor) 4 neuts.

Neuts literally decide who wins. So hence why I wanna be in Titus’s hood is going to do it.

Because Neuts A50+Superbowl+MM literally decide who wins
i'm lost...what are you talking about?

5 town including 2 hood? 4 neutrals? what's the point of a neutral doc? argh, i need more clarity man
13 alive
A50 hood + me = 4 neuts
4 scum left is 8
13-8 = 5
5 town alive MAX.

And the point I can’t say it’s against my wincon publicly.

I will say it in the hood though if hooded
how do you know there is a traitor? and you are still apparently assuming the Titus-hood is scum? what is your wincon?
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Post Post #7296 (isolation #744) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:00 am

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In post 7292, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7290, Morning Mage wrote:Math, I do think that you've fundamentally misunderstood the setup here?

We aren't neutral - A50, superbowl and I are effectively TOWN as we share the town wincon. There is no scenario in which we choose to scumside.
I don’t think so.

I am pretty sure you’re neuts.
i'm struggling to follow how you reached the conclusion you have, or what you want other players to do about it? are you now saying you are effectively a neutral but not with a town-friendly wincon?
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Post Post #7300 (isolation #745) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:02 am

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In post 7295, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7293, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7289, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7288, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7280, MathBlade wrote:Work is going to be longer sorry y’all

Short version is I am a neutral xshot doc. Healed Norway D2 and DS D3

Game is 5 town (2 hood 3 reg) 4 scum (3 army one traitor) 4 neuts.

Neuts literally decide who wins. So hence why I wanna be in Titus’s hood is going to do it.

Because Neuts A50+Superbowl+MM literally decide who wins
i'm lost...what are you talking about?

5 town including 2 hood? 4 neutrals? what's the point of a neutral doc? argh, i need more clarity man
13 alive
A50 hood + me = 4 neuts
4 scum left is 8
13-8 = 5
5 town alive MAX.

And the point I can’t say it’s against my wincon publicly.

I will say it in the hood though if hooded
how do you know there is a traitor? and you are still apparently assuming the Titus-hood is scum? what is your wincon?
Nope Titus hood is 5 in the 5 town.

I am about 75% sure there is a traitor.

And lmao now it’s your turn to ask me my wincon repeatedly lmfao.
which would mean, excluding hooded players and yourself there are 2 town and 4 scum?

so what's the point of all that? if the message is simply we need to be careful not to mis-elim today, then I get it
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Post Post #7302 (isolation #746) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 7299, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yeah i don't get what Math is saying either.
Can someone norweeify it to something simple and understandable.
it's possible he's saying he is a mafia traitor
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Post Post #7303 (isolation #747) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:04 am

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but then i dont understand the timing of it. eh...
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Post Post #7311 (isolation #748) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:10 am

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VOTE: Taylor Swift
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Post Post #7312 (isolation #749) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:13 am

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In post 7306, MathBlade wrote:The point is two fold

1) We can’t mis elim or I play kingmaker. That is not something I want to do. I want this to be played on its merits. Not some weird Titus gambit she thinks is right despite people telling her it’s wrong.

2) Titus cannot continue her Suicide plan if she wants to win. She would be betting the house on her reads.


(Off topic but worth noting) Hood = Titus, Nero, A50, SB, MM, Norway, Taylor that’s 7. 13-7 = 6. 6-1 (me) = 5.

So no 4 town 2 scum not possible as 5 players.
I think the consensus among conftown players is that the gambit is right.

I don't mind if Titus wins or loses - I only care about the town winning.
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Post Post #7315 (isolation #750) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:14 am

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In post 7313, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 7294, Almost50 wrote:
In post 7266, TheGoldenParadox wrote:and finally, who was killed during the night? the conftown slot that had been near-locktowning me the entire game and who i was one of the most likely town players for after she remade her reads, and who was suspicious of the same group - {misty, taylor, shelly}.
Come ON! I've killed my biggest supporters as scum before, just to argue the same thing you're arguing now. Give me something I can buy.
no, you come ON!

really? you think scum!me kills MASTINA, who's supporting me, just to be able to argue that?? mastina defending me would be more valuable to me as scum than being able to argue this, and i think you know that.
you can hammer now dude...
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Post Post #7317 (isolation #751) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:16 am

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being completely honest, i am quite unsettled by the mathcam claim, dont really understand what it means, but feel it's in town's interest to end the day asap.
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Post Post #7318 (isolation #752) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:16 am

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if taylor is town, we probably lose anyway, but not necessarily for the reason Mathcam claims. But you do what you do...
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Post Post #7319 (isolation #753) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:17 am

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mathcam? mathblade even...too much math on this site...
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Post Post #7341 (isolation #754) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:02 am

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odd kill choice
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Post Post #7342 (isolation #755) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:03 am

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but once again, i correctly said SS was obvtown
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Post Post #7344 (isolation #756) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:03 am

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Mod, why no info this time?
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Post Post #7347 (isolation #757) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:04 am

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In post 7343, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7340, Bell wrote:~_~ Please side with the town if you're town siding.
It's my side.
I am doing neither.

If I publicly townside I get shot.

If I publicly scum side I get lynched.

What I am doing is the best of both worlds since forced to claim.
the former is clearly not true - you have been townsiding all game and survived.
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Post Post #7349 (isolation #758) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:05 am

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In post 7334, Bell wrote:Hi by the way, I'm ready to defend myself from Battle mages grasp and or appeal to Morning Tweet's better read if she has one.
lol you started well - it's you or chemist today.
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Post Post #7351 (isolation #759) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:05 am

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In post 7348, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7344, Morning Mage wrote:Mod, why no info this time?
It's probably a scum ability and they realized it wasn't helping with the strategy we correctly abuse yesterday.
you think scum CHOSE to do it?! i figured it was a compulsive thing they had to do...
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Post Post #7353 (isolation #760) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:05 am

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In post 7350, Bell wrote:Why would scum ever use that ability if given a choice?
exactly
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Post Post #7354 (isolation #761) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:06 am

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In post 7346, Bell wrote:
In post 7341, Morning Mage wrote:odd kill choice
He killed himself.
what?
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Post Post #7356 (isolation #762) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:07 am

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In post 7330, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mathblade i'm thinking you are more likely scum than neutral to be perfectly honest.
i agree norweg
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Post Post #7360 (isolation #763) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:07 am

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In post 7355, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7349, Morning Mage wrote:it's you or chemist today.
*According to BM
no, according to MM - we discussed during the night lol
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Post Post #7362 (isolation #764) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:09 am

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In post 7358, Bell wrote:It said he destructed.
Not that he was killed.
I figured Titus invited him and unlike me who would have spent all year trying to convince them I was town and this was dumb they had a more amiable.

Wait actually they'd just do that during the day to control the kill.
So Now I'm confused.
it said he "was destructed", did not imply he did it himself. i have no idea how you reached that conclusion, but given he was vanilla, i'd guess you're probably wrong? *shrug*
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Post Post #7364 (isolation #765) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:10 am

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In post 7357, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7347, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7343, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7340, Bell wrote:~_~ Please side with the town if you're town siding.
It's my side.
I am doing neither.

If I publicly townside I get shot.

If I publicly scum side I get lynched.

What I am doing is the best of both worlds since forced to claim.
the former is clearly not true - you have been townsiding all game and survived.
Alas this is just not true.

I have played in a way that has me townread.

That is different than town siding.

If you believe that go ahead.

I believe I have been as neutral as possible while trying to make sure all players are on an equal info position.

Oh before I forget if E-1 happens on anyone besides me I will hammer. Until then I will not vote to avoid VCA fuck ups.
dude why cant you just be town? ffs, i wouldve had your back if you didn't do all this shenanigans. currently it's just a distraction to make me want to flip you before Bell.
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Post Post #7366 (isolation #766) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:11 am

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In post 7363, NorwegianboyEE wrote:He DIED.
End of story.
is flipping mathblade an option today? is there anyone outside of chemist-bell you would consider?
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Post Post #7368 (isolation #767) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:11 am

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In post 7365, Bell wrote:I'm wrong since if he was hood invited he'd have killed himself during the day. I'm just not sure why it said "destructed."
Instead of what it said before.
did your kill get blocked?
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Post Post #7369 (isolation #768) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:11 am

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can we massclaim now? if we havent already...
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Post Post #7373 (isolation #769) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:13 am

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In post 7343, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7340, Bell wrote:~_~ Please side with the town if you're town siding.
It's my side.
I am doing neither.

If I publicly townside I get shot.

If I publicly scum side I get lynched.

What I am doing is the best of both worlds since forced to claim.
in fairness, you werent forced to claim - i asked you to, and you said yes.
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Post Post #7375 (isolation #770) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 7372, Bell wrote:
In post 7369, Morning Mage wrote:can we massclaim now? if we havent already...
I already claimed Obvious Vanilla Town. OVT
if you are town in this game, i have to say, you are one of the scummiest townies i've played with all year. :eek:
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Post Post #7376 (isolation #771) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:15 am

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In post 7370, Bell wrote:
In post 7363, NorwegianboyEE wrote:He DIED.
End of story.
:(
I'm very confused.

@MorningMage: No my kill went through.
you're claiming you killed SS, despite earlier thinking he had killed himself? Dude, you don't help yourself :lol:
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Post Post #7384 (isolation #772) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:17 am

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In post 7371, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7364, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7357, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7347, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7343, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7340, Bell wrote:~_~ Please side with the town if you're town siding.
It's my side.
I am doing neither.

If I publicly townside I get shot.

If I publicly scum side I get lynched.

What I am doing is the best of both worlds since forced to claim.
the former is clearly not true - you have been townsiding all game and survived.
Alas this is just not true.

I have played in a way that has me townread.

That is different than town siding.

If you believe that go ahead.

I believe I have been as neutral as possible while trying to make sure all players are on an equal info position.

Oh before I forget if E-1 happens on anyone besides me I will hammer. Until then I will not vote to avoid VCA fuck ups.
dude why cant you just be town? ffs, i wouldve had your back if you didn't do all this shenanigans. currently it's just a distraction to make me want to flip you before Bell.
Then I would lose. I am obviously against that.

I was asked to claim so I did.

My hands were tied. I asked several times and got told to.

*shrug*
I'm confident that you claimed because it benefitted you. You're not a sap who did it because you felt compelled when I asked you. So I don't buy all this melodrama.
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Post Post #7385 (isolation #773) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:18 am

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In post 7383, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yeah we hooded Chemist.
"we" lol, you're not one of them dude. :lol:
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Post Post #7386 (isolation #774) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:18 am

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good choice though!
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Post Post #7389 (isolation #775) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:19 am

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In post 7381, Titus wrote:
In post 7325, schadd_ wrote:
In post 7323, schadd_ wrote:
Something_Smart was Destructed in the night! he was a
vanilla townie.
In post 7324, schadd_ wrote:
humans are not animals


Day 6 Starts!


vote count 6.0


not voting (11):
shellyc, Chemist1422, Bell, Nero Cain, MathBlade, Morning Mage, Almost50, superbowl9, Titus, NorwegianboyEE, TheGoldenParadox

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to Execute someones Ass. day 6 starts now and ends november 15th at 14:45 central US time; in (expired on 2020-11-15 14:45:00)


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In post 7366, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7363, NorwegianboyEE wrote:He DIED.
End of story.
is flipping mathblade an option today? is there anyone outside of chemist-bell you would consider?
If Chemist self executes, I would like the time to discuss between TGP and shelly.
Yes, in that case I would agree. Although the answer, of course, is Shelly.
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Post Post #7394 (isolation #776) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:20 am

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In post 7388, Titus wrote:
In post 7374, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7366, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7363, NorwegianboyEE wrote:He DIED.
End of story.
is flipping mathblade an option today? is there anyone outside of chemist-bell you would consider?
Sure. Mathblade could be buttered up, toasted, breaded, and served on a plate for all i care.
But we should probably check the status of our hood recruit first.
Given we need 100% accuracy to win most likely, I would like to execute within the pool of three.
at this stage I think it's currently a pool of 3 either way? isn't it out of shelly-TGP-chemist and mathblade-bell-someone i forgot?
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Post Post #7396 (isolation #777) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:20 am

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In post 7393, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7391, Bell wrote:Did he say anything relevant in PT?
They haven't posted yet.
let's not pretend it matters what they say though
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Post Post #7398 (isolation #778) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:21 am

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it could just be Chemist-Math and Math is just having fun and trying to distract?
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Post Post #7399 (isolation #779) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:22 am

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is now a good time for any town player responsible for the cop info at start of days to claim?

good to confirm it's a scum ability. as if so, yes I agree a chemist scumflip implies TGP and Shelly town.
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Post Post #7401 (isolation #780) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:23 am

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In post 7390, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7385, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7383, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Yeah we hooded Chemist.
"we" lol, you're not one of them dude. :lol:
Are you a doubter that doesn't believe in the cause?
i have no idea what happens in that hood, and i'm glad. it's much more enjoyable just playing the game like normal :lol:
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Post Post #7404 (isolation #781) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:23 am

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In post 7400, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think Math is being very scummy and creepy.

Because of the way they are talking.

It feels very odd and disturbing to have 1 line paragraphs with space inbetween.

The way this is made.
*shudders*
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Post Post #7407 (isolation #782) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:25 am

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In post 7402, Titus wrote:@MM, Chemist1422 TGP Shelly contains at least one scum. It, in theory, could contain both scum.

Once we get the last pool of three scum, Math should be forced to fullclaim honestly, even if he takes a bullet. We have plenty to spare.
I'm a mason, so you can take me out of the solve. :lol:

otherwise, that's correct, but also be aware there aren't that many players outside that pool, and i dont think it's likely the "in-pool" contains multiple scum.
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Post Post #7410 (isolation #783) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:25 am

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In post 7405, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7402, Titus wrote:@MM, Chemist1422 TGP Shelly contains at least one scum. It, in theory, could contain both scum.

Once we get the last pool of three scum, Math should be forced to fullclaim honestly, even if he takes a bullet. We have plenty to spare.
That is against my interests. I will stop the spacing since it’s annoying people.
It could be simply

that mathblade is

a mafia traitor
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Post Post #7411 (isolation #784) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:26 am

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In post 7409, Titus wrote:
In post 7395, Bell wrote:They didn't post last day phase either did they?
One post saying they couldn't keep up.
so what do we do to make them feel more at ease?

add them to the Ego hood! :lol:
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Post Post #7412 (isolation #785) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:27 am

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In post 7403, Bell wrote:Now is a good time for a mass claim.
great, please co-ordinate. I am a mason with A50 and Superbowl
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Post Post #7414 (isolation #786) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:28 am

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In post 7387, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think we should terminate Chemist one way or the other, and if they are town we do Mathblade.
i guess i can roll with that!
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Post Post #7417 (isolation #787) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:29 am

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In post 7413, Titus wrote:
In post 7405, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7402, Titus wrote:@MM, Chemist1422 TGP Shelly contains at least one scum. It, in theory, could contain both scum.

Once we get the last pool of three scum, Math should be forced to fullclaim honestly, even if he takes a bullet. We have plenty to spare.
That is against my interests. I will stop the spacing since it’s annoying people.
The problem is your third party claim runs directly counter to our information. You have no scum wincon. You can't. It's simply not allowed.
i know you're family, but it's definitely possible he's scum here...
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Post Post #7419 (isolation #788) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:29 am

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In post 7415, TheGoldenParadox wrote:so if misty flips scum, the last scum is almost definitely within {math, bell}. i'm inclined to lim math in that case, because a neut claim seems like a better elim than a vt claim.
yeah i guess so. although srsly, ain't bell just the scummiest? lol
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Post Post #7424 (isolation #789) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:31 am

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In post 7416, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Math, you were hard defending scum!Tayl0r yesterday. What did neutral!you have to gain in that situation from being so occupied with what happens to them? And ojecting to an perfectly valid and +town plan?
true, although it worked out for the best. Math was being so creepy, we hastily flipped Taylor just to end the day. :lol:
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Post Post #7425 (isolation #790) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:32 am

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In post 7420, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 7387, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think we should terminate Chemist one way or the other, and if they are town we do Mathblade.
if misty is town, shouldn't you neighborize/force to suicide one of shelly and me and eliminate the other?
we cant do both, we probably dont have much margin for error.
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Post Post #7427 (isolation #791) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:33 am

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In post 7422, Bell wrote:It wasn't a perfectly valid and town+ plan damnit.
It was weird! You don't kill yourself!

I say this with a town role pm.
I would have spent all of my time in that PT arguing that I was town and why killing myself wasn't in town's interest you loons.
:(
you're wrong though. and i dont even know why you're arguing that with all the conftowns telling you. it literally caught us taylor-scum yesterday.
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Post Post #7429 (isolation #792) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:33 am

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In post 7426, Titus wrote:
In post 7420, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 7387, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think we should terminate Chemist one way or the other, and if they are town we do Mathblade.
if misty is town, shouldn't you neighborize/force to suicide one of shelly and me and eliminate the other?
If Misty is town, we get our point for eliminating in the hood. We can't score it again.

Then, if we eliminate correctly, there's no point to hooding the other.

If we're incorrect, then sad days, we have to think about what to do.
you close?
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Post Post #7432 (isolation #793) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:34 am

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In post 7428, Bell wrote:....Now that I know math is a third party I can't even talk about what the fuck happened with S_S.
That wasn't a scum kill obviously.
Does no one know what destructed typically means? Is that common terminology for some other role?
Bell, please explain what the hell you're talking about?

I don't understand your obsession with the SS kill, or why you have both claimed you did it, and it was suicide?
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Post Post #7441 (isolation #794) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:37 am

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mathblade, can you dumb it down for me?
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Post Post #7442 (isolation #795) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:38 am

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In post 7438, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Math wtf are you on about.
norweg, i'm begging you, please help me work out what the fuck is going on with mathblade and bell here (2 different mind-fks)
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Post Post #7446 (isolation #796) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:40 am

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In post 7445, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7442, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 7438, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Math wtf are you on about.
norweg, i'm begging you, please help me work out what the fuck is going on with mathblade and bell here (2 different mind-fks)
Why are you asking me?? :eek:
Morning isn't here, and you're the only other person i trust/talking sense in this game... :cry:
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Post Post #7451 (isolation #797) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:41 am

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In post 7444, MathBlade wrote:Kong’s commander

It’s a mafia variant where scum only have to reach equality with true town.

There’s a hidden number of “Kings” that scum have to get rid of to win.

I think with this set up it’s the town.
so you think scum are on cusp of winning because they only need to match non-3p?
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Post Post #7454 (isolation #798) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:42 am

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like i can believe you believe that, but i dont understand what your point is then? and how it links to your own wincon?
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Post Post #7456 (isolation #799) » Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:42 am

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In post 7452, Titus wrote:
In post 7447, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 7444, MathBlade wrote:Kong’s commander

It’s a mafia variant where scum only have to reach equality with true town.

There’s a hidden number of “Kings” that scum have to get rid of to win.

I think with this set up it’s the town.
This sounds like more bullshit.
Actually, I buy that, but it's not a reason why Math must live in particular.
Yes, thats what i said. i buy it, but dont understand what his point actually is?
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