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Hm. Thats false.
I'll change to 'nonprimes which the first digit from the left is a final digit of any triangular number'.
You'll notice that there are no triangular numbers that start with 2,4,7 or 9.
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I'd object to that, because it would imply that I'd have to understand what's going on too, and my understanding of the meta-rule isn't as firm as I'd like.
Like, take your bingo. Numbers containing a 1. I can turn that into a meta-rule: "Numbers containing a specific single digit." But I'm not sure where exactly the dividing line is between "cases where there's a meta-rule" and "cases where there isn't."
I also have no idea how to prove that a given bingo falls foul (or doesn't) of the meta-rule clause; all I know how to do is experimental "proof" (generate hands of numbers and see how many are a match - which proves nothing; if you flip a coin three times and it comes up heads three times, that doesn't prove the coin's rigged). And I can't do that very fast with my current understanding of spreadsheets, so trying to do it 64 times is a major headache.Mish-Mash Janitor
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I think this might still be too overengineered: is "nonprimes which the first digit from the left is a, b, c, d, or e" going to generate a bingo with more than 1/64 of hands?In post 1450, Sirius9121 wrote:Hm. Thats false.
I'll change to 'nonprimes which the first digit from the left is a final digit of any triangular number'.
You'll notice that there are no triangular numbers that start with 2,4,7 or 9.
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The simpler the bingo is, the more likely it fits the rules. For example "all the cards are even" or "is divisible by 3 with 1 left over" are acceptable bingos, and the meta rule in this case is "Are any of my cards divisible by 2? Divisible by 2 with 1 left over? Divisible by 3? Divisible by 3 with 1 left over? Divisible by 3 with 2 left over? Divisible by 5? ..."In post 1452, Farren wrote:I'd object to that, because it would imply that I'd have to understand what's going on too, and my understanding of the meta-rule isn't as firm as I'd like.
Like, take your bingo. Numbers containing a 1. I can turn that into a meta-rule: "Numbers containing a specific single digit." But I'm not sure where exactly the dividing line is between "cases where there's a meta-rule" and "cases where there isn't."
I also have no idea how to prove that a given bingo falls foul (or doesn't) of the meta-rule clause; all I know how to do is experimental "proof" (generate hands of numbers and see how many are a match - which proves nothing; if you flip a coin three times and it comes up heads three times, that doesn't prove the coin's rigged). And I can't do that very fast with my current understanding of spreadsheets, so trying to do it 64 times is a major headache.
If your method of generating bingos is "glance at my hand and notice something really obvious, like all of the numbers are prime" then that's always going to be allowed as long as less than half of the numbers below 100 have this property. (nonprime by itself is way more than 50 so that wouldn't work).
If you're playing without a spreadsheet, then you will never run afoul of the meta rule.
but if you're curious, the way you work out it without trying all the options is through a branch of mathematics called Combinatorics. It's pretty fun, especially early on when the problems are less hairy, but it's also pretty easy to make mistakes and real life combinatorics problems can get pretty uglyThe failure mode of clever is asshole.
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This site is aimed at teenagers and has questionable color scheme choices but it has some worked examples for learning the fun parts of Combinatorics https://www.coolmath.com/algebra/20-combinatoricsThe failure mode of clever is asshole.
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I improved my spreadsheet game. Generated a fresh 64 hands. Checked them against both meta-rules.In post 1453, Plotinus wrote:I think this might still be too overengineered: is "nonprimes which the first digit from the left is a, b, c, d, or e" going to generate a bingo with more than 1/64 of hands?
13/64 met the "no duplicates / no primes" category.
7/64 met the "no duplicates / no primes with 3 or more digits missing" category.
6/64 met the "no duplicates / no primes where the leftmost digits are A/B/C/D/E" category, with a few A/B/C/Ds and a few A/B/C/D/E/Fs.
Then did it again.
8/64: no duplicates/no primes.
4/64: no duplicates/no primes/3+ missing digits.
4/64: no duplicates/no primes/A-B-C-D-E starting digits.
I'd say that second one is probably a no as well.Mish-Mash Janitor
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Plotinus hasn't posted anything anywhere on-site since November 7th.
If and when he comes back ... probably?
Only alternative I can see to waiting or abandoning would be trying to find a back-up mod with the mathematical savvy to be able to run the game, and I'm not sure if that's something we can do without Plotinus?Mish-Mash Janitor
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If it's just a matter of telling people what their cards are and reminding them that it's their turn, I can do it, but I don't have the energy for making a lot of decisions about edge cases or whether a sequence is too over engineered or not. If someone wants to volunteer to co-mod and make most of the hard decisions, then that could work.
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I would continue, and I would also offer to comod and withdraw just because most of the over-engineering comes from me and I think me withdrawing and comodding would technically lessen Plotinus' troubles?
(p.s. I really don't mind, if this continues, me being either a player or comod is okay.余命数か月ばかりの恋に点滴で扶養する患者達
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Yeah I’d still like to play
If no co-mod can be found, I think we can just make ruling collaboratively, they usually involved player input anywayAlso, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?- Plotinus
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I'll message rockhopper to see if they're still interested, it looks like everyone else has chimed in. Sirius can co-mod.The failure mode of clever is asshole.
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