Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[Noraa]

*gets super suspicious*
what if worstie is secretly georgebailey :O
*has a brain too small to comprehend*

[Noraa]

If I'm attacking someone, I request that I attack a conftown. This way I can confirm I did nothing else that night. I took one damage in speed because of IKS. SO, I only have 1 night action. I'd want it to be confirmed

[Noraa]

We're not getting cakez. They're town.

wtf? you just voted cake a few pages ago

[Noraa]

Stop trying to derail and let scum openwolf by being all like "haha yes its ok if u do an action that cant be proven haha"

1) as one of the conftown, I don't think you really have a RIGHT to say this
2) unlike the other two people that can only do 1 action, I am nowhere close to confirmed.

People that can do two actions are hard to confirm but 1 action isn't hard to confirm.

[Noraa]

Btw Johnny was saying he was gunna give me the healing item. He never did just saying.

[Noraa]

checking who claims to have visited gym N1.

I visited the gym N1 and N2.
The reasons my predecessor visited the gym N1 I suspect is because if predecessor's N0 action. My predecessor found the gym and then went the next night and got blocked. Then I repped in and wanted 4 speed so I went to the gym N2 as well.

-tsunami

[Noraa]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO I was so worried there were 4 scum

[Noraa]

72 72 72 72 72 72 72 72 come onlineeeeeeeeee. lookieeeeeeee.

[Noraa]

Gg guys
Thank you mod for hosting!!!

[Noraa]

<.< whoopsie

[Noraa]

sorries pooky and skitter

[Noraa]

We were shouting in the dead pt for like two weeks to lim noraa's slot lol

*looks around innocently* how could it ever be innocent adorable Noraa?

[Noraa]

Btw, when I saw the game ended pm from Lilith, my first thought was that scums had 5 people and IKS wasn't one of them :/

[Noraa]

how are you so scummy every game its wild

*Sniffies*

[Noraa]

For you pooky <3

[Noraa]

Noraa actually is able to like townier as scum lol

[Noraa]

ABR betrayed my trust

[Noraa]

I lied a few

[Noraa]

I wanna see dead thread!!!!

[Noraa]

I be an impatient potato

[Noraa]

Noraa also has a very unique dictionary, jsyk.

:^)

I found this funny btw

[Noraa]

this timeline also applies to dead thread, if anyone wants to redact anything.

got it!

[Noraa]

I think my reads are liek

Gamma

Johnny
DkKo
Cmod1
Noraa
IKS

Cakez



or something

hm

reads list seems ok at this stage, though, other than noraa.

I havent read noraa's iso, but noraa tends to read as town to me when she plays scum. So i dont know why noraa is so low.

This sounded like a scum slip to me but no one pointed it out lel

[Noraa]

it's alright. my play style is difficult to read

[Noraa]

u replaced out right as u learned that u were conf scum from my ability lol that was grimy and dont ever play with me again because you wasted all of our time. u coulda just stayed in the game and took the elim but instead u make us wait

Hey, be nice please

[Noraa]

how are you so scummy every game its wild

lol, interesting. I always read noraa as town

I do this also and must stop

NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU *sniffies*
the innocent Noraa obviously *only* rolls town

The concept of this setup is too town-sided.

All actions are accounted for so scum can't just decide to attack.
If everyone goes to the gym and scum attack, the next day all scum are caught.
If you leash scum to negative utility items, they can't attack.
If they use their 1-shot stealth, they can't attack anymore.
Most of the town had amazing PRs like additional defensive dice or if you fail to kill them (85% of the time), all scum are caught.
When scum damaged a player, that player was healed and became conftown.
Then you have labs that town can easily destroy, activated or not. Town outnumber scum so their actions are always going to defeat scum by sheer math.
They will collect more items, open more rooms, interact with more interesting things, message conftown privately.

People who say it was a little town-sided are wrong, it was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy town-sided to the point that even if there was 4 scum, scum would still lose easily.

Scum being able to destroy labs or fake attacks on themselves is just stupid. Either way its a waste of action and doesnt help scum wincon. Because its too townsided.

Scum could not

72 "suggested" 5 scum

[Noraa]

5 scum sounds like a party tho

[Noraa]

mechanics
- should stats be private?

I suppose if you decide to keep 3 scum and not change to 4, it might seem more fair to not make stats public?

- should the sender of items be private?

I really dont have a huge opinion on this and I'm sure this can be used by the scum team but I think its not a huge difference

- should you not receive the identity of your attacker?

I would say this helps keep scums constrained to a certain extent so yes, we should. I mean its already extremely easy to make fake night actions and I think there needs to be a level of constraint

- should you not receive the results of your own actions?

yes definitely

- which dice roll(s) should you see the results of, if any?

doesn't really matter imo

- should rooms be harder to find or have a different distribution?

no. the current setup was good. The most important all found day 0 and day 1 and the rest being labs

- should actions be unlimited or set to a different threshold?

speed/2 was hard but I believe its pretty fair already

- should stats have a different scale/limit?

nah

- do stats need to be easier or harder to change?

hm. maybe gym can be visited more than once? so easier?

- were items too overpowered?

as someone that uh basically never had many items, I didn't think they were terribly overpowered but I can see why that might not be the case looking from a scum perspective so maybe weaken them a tiny tiny bit?

- should the number of players be adjusted (eg 3v8)?

1 more scum should be enough

Haunt balance
- were labs too easy to destroy?

as someone that never destroyed any, my answer is no.

- should scum have been able to destroy them in order to prevent confirmability?

doctors aren't able to technically? confused as to what you are asking here

- should the distribution of labs have been higher?

no. it was already high enough imo.

- should the labs have been less difficult to activate?

no. let scums keep that advantage

- should doctors have had additional factional night actions? what type (ie extra attacks, extra lab activation, extra open actions for whatever they want, or some combination of those)?

extra attacks

[Noraa]

Don't say that. In case doctors purposefully mess with him to set him up tmrw, that'd be bad.
This is the plan imo
Lavar give ABR the weapon
ABR kill Lavar tonight. I can provide an extra attack to make sure it goes thru but this way I still get two night actions. One attack and one other action.

*ABR kill IKS tonight

Fml

Your lack of communication is making me lose faith in winning.

Holy fuck. I just realized I was telling one scum to give a weapon to another scum to kill the last scum. GOD LMFAOOOO

[Noraa]

there's a few people i'm gonna be trying to avoid from now on unfortunately

*Snifflies*
my scummy play scared skitter away

[Noraa]

See I was feeling decent or close to decent about my play .... until I read the dead thread.