Large Normal 230 - Mafia Chat

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HOLY FREAKING SHIT

LOOK AT THIS AMAZING SCUM TEAM

I LOVE ALL 3 OF YOU

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LOOTER I was JUST saying in Space Newbie that we should be scum together sometime. I really think the 4 of us together can destroy this playerlist and dominate the game with high activity, strongly TR play. Norway is gonna be able to sniff me out so imma want to NK him as soon as we can but that's just my 2 cents.

How does rolecop work?

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I'm 100% in the mood for a massive gambit

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Glitch

JacksonVirgo
Nero Cain

TheDuke
muh316

Tayl0r Swift

NorwegianboyEE

Gamma Emerald

TheGoldenParadox

Guillotina
Herta

Town looter

NoPowerOverMe

innocentvillager
May
Non lmh
Kanna

Red = scum
Blue = the key town players that pose the biggest threat I know of
Gray = a couple of red flags but I'm not worried

Main Thread

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NPOM from my only game with him makes himself look bad when under hard pressure. If at any point we need to dramatically shift the game state we can build a flash wagon on him and I anticipate he would let his frustration and anger at us or the situation lead him into either a rage or into giving up, or both together. He looks scummy when under pressure according to my game with him.

Nero is the top tier scum hunter. I hold him and A50 in the same tier as the pinnacle of scum hunters on MS. He makes strong cases and is by default a town leader.

Norway's charisma is over 9000. He can sway the whole game any way he wants and lots of people will follow him. Even when being SR by others he has a lot of control over the game state and the overall reads of the town.

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Jackson is like the scum king. While I don't think that his scum hunting skills put us at huge risk, he, like Norway, is very influential and has the charm to start and build wagons.

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That covers the challenges for this game. Here's what we have going for us.

Looter is a very well balanced player. He is great at walking the line of reads so he isn't so highly town read that people wonder why he hasn't been NK'd, but he also doesn't come across scummy enough to get lynched.

Tayl0r is in literally every game on this site and therefore everyone's reads on her are scattered across the board with different impressions and takes. No one is going to read Taylor the same. To me she is a very challenging player to sort and hopefully that plays to our advantage.

I feel like Gamma has the energy and steam to put the high level of effort in needed to pull this off. He is, from what I have seen, a higher activity player which will be great.

And for me, I have a terrible habit of death tunneling on D1 when I'm town and I get SR for it. I'm gonna announce that and then do that. Idk who I will death tunnel but Looter, Norway, Nero, and Jackson all know from my D1 death tunnel of Nero in Large 229 that town Glitch death tunnels relentlessly. Hopefully I can use that to get a mislynch without getting SR.

When I high effort it I also can be very winsome and convincing and I'm good at manipulating SRs off of me just enough. But only when I really put in some high, high effort. That's gonna be challenging for me right now but I will do the best I can and I will be a lot more active here since I'm scum and I freaking love playing scum.

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taskmaster

Idk what this word means as a verb

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Looter, Norway, Nero, and Jackson all know from my D1 death tunnel of Nero in Large 229 that town Glitch death tunnels relentlessly

NPOM too

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Actually Looter I should death tunnel d1 and then if people sus me for it I could let you point out that this is what town glitch does based on large 229 where town glitch death tunnelled town Nero D1.

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I'm so excited.

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Yuss

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that alone made you confident enough to claim?

is claiming our of the gate on the sites you play on common meta there?

I did what thought it was right for me and my faction. I dont care about what's common or unorthodox. I believe town can benefit if a cop checked someone who can be investigated or a doctor protected someone that can be saved. I'm aware im an easy kill for wolves now but who gives, i'll just play these 14 days like they will be my only ones in this game.

You are welcome.

This is a full of shit VT trying to draw the NK away from town PRs

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Last large had town Doc, vig, and gunsmith in the lineup

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I've always wanted to play with you Albert. I follow you wiki scum hunting guide religiously. XD

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I am and will continue to be a nervous wreck until both Nero and Norway are dead. Probably will be a bit low activity until then unless I'm under heavy suspicion.

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I also have been working hard for 4 years to get a very specific promotion at work and it finally happened last week! I'm so happy but I'm going up to 60-65 hours per week so my activity has been suffering since then.

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VOTE: Glitch
You feel like scum this game.

How would town respond to this? I have written a reply 3 times and deleted it because Norway is gonna sniff me out lol.

I don't want to look too defendy. I don't want to be overeager to defend myself eithef. But There's no actual argument. Just a feeling. I can't rebut that.

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I just got on MS for the first time today. Someone give me a few bullet points to post something. I'm behind like 15 pages and can't catch up but if you just give me a quick summary and some talking points I can fluff it up and make it look good and cast a helpful vote. Someone help me out. I have 35 minutes to play today and I'm in this game, another mini, and I'm modding my own. I have 10 minutes for each game.

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SHIT
I hate when I stretch myself too thin but I was so excited for this large and I don't want to replace out. I'm just gonna have to figure out how to make this work.

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Looks like the town is going to devour themselves today

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I think it'll be hard but I have a few hours tonight and I'm ready to catch up. I'll be posting a ton of notes in here and then some walls in the thread.

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Pretentious is Flavor Leaf, correct? And May has an asterisk in the OP because she's being replaced?

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Page 1-7

-18 Guillo claims ascetic townie
-Post 20 IV jokingly claims Town Doc
-IV feels overeager 35
-IV trying to solve Guillo claim feels genuine town though

I did what thought it was right for me and my faction.

Weird wording.

-50 from Guillo is all kinds of weird, off vibes
-Page 4 Norway is painfully townie
-Gamma is first to state that claiming Ascetic was the right move outright
-Gamma leans town on Norway p5
-153 Gamma town points for spotting NPOM PR hunting
-156 NPOM responds - could be spun as throwing a fit

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Gamma is your name inspired in any part by the Pokemon Emerald SP game? I lived on that game in my childhood

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Page 8-17
-Muh continues to use "scripted" writing as a reason to sus Guillo

To me a day 1 doctor claim is not something a scum team would come up with. If anything it gives town red.

Town cred? Doctor is a very important role, if you claim doctor on Day 1 and it's real, you are playing against your wincon.

This is incredibly accurate. Why tf would an actual doc claim doc D1 except to try and draw our NK?
-208 TS's clumsiness is not indicative of TS's scum meta of very high efforting (I can twist the meta to say that regardless of whether it does or not)
-193 and 212 from Guillo are useless questions that are scum looking busy. The answers to these questions won't help solve any player. Shade this shit
-Everyone can't read TS for shit
-Gamma continues to ping as neutral and seeking answers
-Norway SRing TS
-NPOM light defending TS

no, but she prob is scummy regardless of alignment so...

-Why is Nero literally sheeping exactly what Norway said about TS being scummy, when Nero says he has never played with town Taylor?
-270 is a poor understanding of my 130 and I could say it's a misrep easily and explain why
-285 May likes muh's "scripted" read on Guillo. That's a trash read, why does May like it?
-299 Nero is too eager to solve for D1 and putting together scum team speculations on D1 is bad
-TGP alt snipes May along with Norwe, TRs her
-330 IV shallow and sheeping the general consensus
-Kanna is a Norwe whisperer -- so if they're both scum together we're screwed if we trust Kanna
-Nero push against IV page 15 is townie. SHIT
-Omg I'm going to be thankful for one thing every day leading up to Thanksgiving and today's one thing I'm thankful for is I AM IN GOOD STANDING WITH NERO, yuss
-Nero presents early solve that's weird pinning 2 of us in his list of 5 in which he thinks all scum are in
-414 Nero says JV is angry but JV hasn't been angry at all, why is Nero shading him inaccurately?

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428 is my favorite post of this game

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Swampert + Alakazam + Tropius + Grumpig + Breloom + Walrien
Wasn't the most balanced party but that's who I grew up with for years. Man those memories.

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Page 18-28
-JV is under a little heat
-Norway paranoid about ABR replacing into a scum slot and whipping the scum team into shape
-JV 459 "I remember Glitch being non-existent D1 as town but became a power-house later in the game." <-- this makes me happy as he is referring to Large 229 when he was scum and I was town, and now we're flipped
-Nero Cain is SO diplomatic this game it hurts, and based on my other game with him where we were town together, it was NOT this way. He was hostile, intense, and aggressive. Why is he different this time?
-489 The Duke enters with literally the shallowest read in the history of reads
-504 Umlaut votes me with absolutely horrible reason. Come on man, I'm actually scum this game, and this reason is terrible. At least find a good reason to launch at me.
-507 "Muh is scum and Glitch is the attempted counterwagon" -Nero. Is Nero pushing that Muh and Umlaut are scum together? Cause Umlaut's the only one that said anything about me.
-535 Guillo makes a terrible argument that Nero is scummy for TRing Norway only because other players are scummier than him, and not because Norway is townie of his own accord. It's a terrible reason to shade Nero, but it isn't really pinging me as scummy. If Guillo was scum, there's PLENTY of reasons to call Nero scum OTHER than this BS reason, so why would he do this? Unless they're both scum together and Guillo wants to find trash reasons to look like they're not partners but the reasons need to be bad so no one else takes them seriously.
-Scum TS would probs not show any reluctance to the "wagon" on me in 547
-Here comes the first rumblings of the oncoming Nero v TS disaster
-TS's reasons for voting Nero in 562 are fair for early game
-Nero in 570 totally dismisses a valid point of Taylor's here:

for one thing you arent really giving reasons why everyone else is excluded from the PoE.

this just feels like taylor crying that I'm getting too close to her team and taking away her miselimination options.

-This TS v Nero stuff seems like Taylor has really strong questions and Nero has really emotional answers. This is the Nero I expected to see all game. Why is this Nero only limited to interacting with TS and not the Nero that is present the entire game?
-586 Norway has great read on Guillo
-TS 620 is exactly what makes TS hard to read. She doesn't give a shit how people read her
-628 Guillo the noob calling Nero a noob is ridiculous
-Umlaut and Guillo could be harvested for Nero votes
-659 The Duke - Okay literally just shows up and repeats the exact same read they had hundreds of posts ago that the ascetic guillo claim seems legit but now Duke thinks it's ascetic scum. wat. where is the effort? This slot could easily be up for a lynch.
-I can't stand Guillo and his arrogant complex.
-We could get Norway to vote Guillo. And Duke.
-669 Now Guillo wants to say that when he asked town PRs to target him N1 that hE wAs JuSt JoKiNg!1!!
-ABR's take on Guillo is balanced and non-emotional which is probably a better way to read players but I'm just emotional and dramatic so I like to read players in extremes lmao
-ABR says Nero is a TR

[Glitch]

Glitch you wanna vote Nero Cain?

Yes I do, but until I get caught up I don't know how without looking sheepish. I'll get caught up eventually. I'm on p28 and trying to up my pace

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I'm keeping a Ping Board which is my best scum hunting method so far that has worked so well for me. As of 28:

NPOM: 1
May: 1
IV: 2
Pretentious: 2
Muh: 2
Duke: 2
Nero: 3
Guillo: 5

Number of scum pings, most of which are documented in my notes above so I can reference them when voting. I can vote now for Nero based on p1-28 if it wouldn't look sus

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I'm catching up right now. I've had a few hours and I've been reading from the beginning of the thread. I'm on page 28 right now and my top two SRs are Guillo and Nero. Since it looks like the Nero wagon may be gaining some traction I'll vote there and continue catching up and adjust reads as they continue to change. Sorry again for my low activity, I'm doing the best I can!

(insert 3-4 reasons I SR Nero from P1-28 here)

Draft post
Would this fit in fine with the flow of the game right now or would it be too sheepy?

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Page 29-39
-Gamma continues to remain well balanced
-So we will never ever get a lynch on Norway, just a headsup. Voting for Norway to be the first NK because he's locktown and because he creates too much content, I can't keep up.
-Norway TRs Taylor. Let's look at Norway's reads at EoD1 and if we are mostly or all in his town bin we should NK him and then use his reads on us to show how townie we are. For example if he is TR'ing Taylor, Glitch, and Gamma, but maybe null reading ABR, maybe ABR can be the one to point out how we should listen to Norway's reads on us as town. Just floating as many ideas as come to mind.
-Gamma asks if anyone has meta on Town Looter. We should drop this immediately. TL doesn't like playing scum and feels intense pressure when playing scum. He high efforts. It makes sense with his meta that he would replace out if he were scum so we shouldn't follow up on this. If it gets followed up on I will make up a complete bullshit lie because I have played a few games with him and I can come up with some bullshit there.
-Guillo's post here is solid gold for us:

Spoiler:

Making this big so it stands out in my ISO

Look guys. Whoever is town here.

I got nothing to lose. Im an ascetic villager. Which is worse than a vanilla because a vanilla can be town cleared by a cop or protected by a doc. Im a dead walking villager, it's just a question of time.

If you yeet me you are gonna feel really bad about it, but if you let me live, the wolves will have to take care of me. Specially if im close to figure them out.

So i ask you to do the right thing. Don't yeet me, let the wolves have to waste a factional kill on me.

This is the right mechanical play, i claimed my role how I was supposed to claim. Don't let me get yeeted, make the wolves have to NK me. One NK on me means one less NK against a PR. Yeeting me helps wolves, not town.

My scum leans: Nero and Norweggian. When i die and I flip green, investigate them, watch them, track them first.

We can claim this is scum WIFOMing town and then when Guillo flips green Nero and Norway are suddenly under pressure.
-Norway will vote Guillo if we try.
-I take it back; Guillo's case on Nero/Norway being scum together is so bad that even when Guillo flips green no one will be willing to think twice about his bad reads. Best thing to do is probably try to lynch Nero today and Guillo will help us do just that.
-Why tf does TGP TR Guillo in 799? That's a terrible take with no explanation.
-Non Imh is TRing Guil and IV, why???
-Muh nulls a bit in 809, continues to town out a bit the rest of that page
-TheDuke 907 literally has the shallowest reads ever. This would be such an easy fade
-What on earth is happening with DGB being inconsistent on p37. Says Guillo is town, then votes Guillo, then defends vote, then immediately unvotes and seems to backtrack. wat. Big scummy vibes here.
-TY Gamma in 925 for countering the stupid argument of too scummy to be scum!
-Umlaut 938 "I don't even know if he is scum" talking about someone he voted. I just really appreciate that argument because a lot of times I feel like town players expect me to believe one hundred percent that the person I want to flip is absolutely scum, but that's just not how it works. I want to eliminate my top SR but I know well that as town I simply am wrong sometimes and there's no way to know for sure until the flip happens, but there are some townies that act like we should believe it 100%. I appreciate Umlaut's input here and think even though it is not AI it is one hundred percent accurate.
-Just being honest I have enough of a read on guillo, I am NOT reading any of his ISO analysis walls.

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I read pages 1-39 tonight and just stalled out. My brain has nothing left. I'll come back again Sunday to try and finish 39-80ish and then Monday morning I can catch 80ish-all the way caught up. That's my plan at least. In my review of Page 1-39 one large concern is Nero.

-256 Why is Nero literally sheeping exactly what Norway said about TS being scummy, when Nero says he has never played with town Taylor?
-299 Nero is so eager to solve scum pair for D1 and putting together scum team speculations on D1 is bad
-414 Nero says JV is angry but JV hasn't been angry at all, why is Nero shading him inaccurately?
-Nero is SO diplomatic this game it hurts, because based on my other game with him where we were both town, it was NOT this way. He was hostile, intense, and aggressive. Why is he different this time? Is he trying to be more winsome to not get faded out?
--Nero in 570 totally dismisses a valid point of Taylor's here:

for one thing you arent really giving reasons why everyone else is excluded from the PoE.

this just feels like taylor crying that I'm getting too close to her team and taking away her miselimination options.

-Then later,this TS v Nero stuff seems like Taylor has really strong questions and Nero has really emotional answers. This is the Nero I expected to see all game. Why is this Nero only limited to interacting with TS and not the Nero that is present the entire game?

Seeing as a Nero wagon is the talk of the town, don't mind if I do. VOTE: Nero

I really don't like The Duke or DGB so far either. The Duke has the most shallow reads and lame ISO I've looked at all game. Coasting 100% with no content put out at all that hasn't already been stated. DGB says Guillo is town, then votes Guillo, then defends vote, then immediately unvotes and seems to backtrack. wat.

Draft, thoughts? About to post but looking for some input.

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I feel like we may be able to still get a lynch on Guillo easier than Nero. Just my 2 cents

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I feel like we may be able to still get a lynch on Guillo easier than Nero. Just my 2 cents

sure we can do what's easy, but we can afford to play the long game and sow division here

Im down

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Thank you for helping to review it. Let's get this mislynch.

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Cause I never do 80 page catchups. I usually have more time and can play a lot but I just don't have the time I used to anymore. New season, different time commitments. I've got to post something so I'm just gonna do the best I can.

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I am happy to perform the kill as I expect the higher activity players will be the targets of the town PRs. I want to kill Norway so bad N1. Thoughts?

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NPOM is a good pick imo. We can lynch NPOM late game with enough pressure because he's not good under pressure. It would be good to know if that's a solid plan though cause if he is PR then it would be better to get rid of him sooner rather than later.

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Agreed that Taylor is the biggest big target out of all of us

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Nero's reads on us aren't super threatening at this point.

The general consensus of the town is that Norway is the top TR. There is no way we will get a lynch on his slot. We may be able to get one on Nero at some point.

What other players were you considering? Umlaut comes to mind for me.

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I don't think I am at risk of being viged tonight so I would protect Gamma over me.

Norway's reads are not threatening to us currently but what I'm saying is unless something big changes in the general consensus, Norway is unlynchable.

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If we can't kill Norway during the day then we have to NK him eventually. The sooner the better IMO because he is going to snuff me out eventually and is good enough to do the same for others.

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ABR protects Gamma
Glitch kills Norway
Insano rolecops umlaut

This is best. If we check Umlaut tonight let's check NPOM tomorrow and see if he's VT so we can death tunnel him together D3

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Who would you prefer to NK?

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I am not even gonna bother reading the rest of D1 and just read from D2 on.

Nero's fresh out the gate post is ew. I could make an OMGUS case against him because he was TR'ing me ALL GAME and then as soon as I started to SR him he flipped his read and has SR'd me since with poor reason. I've done nothing scummy this game honestly, I'm just low activity.

The game I've been modding just ended so hopefully that's more time over here.

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Who tf is boon

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IV screwed up bad
viewtopic.php?p=12355713#p12355713

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DGB would vote IV with us. We could push that. Still catching up but I'll be caught up soon

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Maybe I did miss it.

If Guillo did get a red check on one of y'all, maybe we should speed lynch that slot if at all possible before they can say who.

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lmao how great would it be if Guillo actually has a red check on a miller who didn't claim D1 hahaha

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If anyone is hard TR'ing guillo maybe it is a sign that they're the vig

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It feels good to be caught up

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Lol my bad. I read it I just forgot. Oops

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REDCHECK IS NERO CAIN

Holy shit

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Is second mafia faction like wolf or alien considered normal or is guillotina just a dumbass?

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Wouldn't it be better to lynch town Nero and then use that to fuel a lynch of Guillo D3?

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My vote is already on Guillo

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Possibilities:

1) Town cop Guillo / scum Nero
2) Town cop Guillo / Town Miller Nero but didn't claim D1 (but Nero knows better)
3) Town VI Guillo / Town Nero
4) scum Guillo / Town Nero - but why would scum Guillo do this?
5) Mafia Guillo / werewolf Nero - different scum factions and the red check is scum Guillo cop checking scum Nero.

2 and 4 don't make sense.
5 excited me just for the shits and giggles of a 3 factioned game.
Either way, both slots will resolve themselves when the other flips. I'm fine with my vote staying in Guillo.

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Thought about posting this but maybe I'll just not post and look like I didn't get on and see all this, and they'll lynch without me having to address the situation and if they shade me for it I can always say I didn't get back to the game in time and they lynched without waiting for me; that I was going to "switch to Nero" but they lynched before I got back to the game.

No IRL excuses, I don't do that shit. But maybe what I don't say right now is even more important than what I do say.

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Yeah we have to kill Nero. If he was actually a tracker then Nero is a PR who targeted Norway N1 and so tracker targeted Norway and got the result "glitch and Nero visited Norway," and Nero knows that and will absolutely come out the gate raging tomorrow using that to 1v1 me and the only lynch tomorrow will be me or Nero. Idk if I can hold my own against nero and even if I can, when he flips green I will be the D3 lynch. In an effort to protect me I really need Nero to die tonight. I should also do the kill just in case there's a detective and I was the only one not on Guills 6 person list.

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Sorry I didn't read Anything here. Just posted after reading the thread. Let me read up here

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You're saying Guillo used his tracker action on himself and got the result the Nero Cain targeted him?

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Omg if we kill the vig and protect me and he shoots me tonight this game is gonna be like 10 days long xD

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So Nero is definitely some kind of PR. I agree that since we know this we should kill him. But how come you feel so certain he is vig and not some other kind of PR? Or 3rd party scum? Because only 1 kill last night?

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Or Nero is some sort of PR that targeted Norway and Guillo got the result "Nero visited Norway last night?"

I'm not debating that we shouldn't kill nero; just trying to figure out what happened.

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With Nero being front and center and in the spotlight is it risky NKing him since other town PRs are likely to consider being on him too?

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its no surprise, I would have caught Glitch too. we might need to bus him tomorrow unless something unexpected happens

Why? What have I done that is such poor play that I'm caught scum?

I was saying Nero would come out swinging because I misunderstood the tracker role. I looked it up and sure enough my theory was wrong. I thought you targeted a player and found out who visited them the night before but I was incorrect. I don't think I have played super scummy this game and especially D2 I felt good about my posts.

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Day 3 Strategy

Outline: Get Gamma into the endgame with as much towncred as possible and at least 2 buddies.

Gamma needs to continue to look fair and impartial. He should represent the majority's opinion while maintaining a leadership position. Whatever way the game breaks tomorrow, Gamma should be reinforcing that wagon. Gamma will be the voice of the people.

I will be the voice of the lazy looking for an easy answer. My job is to look confident and reassure everyone that the town is still in good hands, and town is going to win. I will tell them what they want to hear and present very opinionated stances they may or may not agree with, but they will know where I stand; with or against them. My job is division.

Glitch's job will be to look like he has no clue what's going on. He should be erratic. All over the place. Coming up with theories that make no sense and can't be true. Guillotina 2.0 minus the hubris. His job will be to look so illogical and inconsistent that people join me and Gamma for stability or easy answers.

I like you're plan but I don't think turning me into the public VI is necessary. If you think I haven't played well this game, that's fine, but instead of just throwing me out as a lost cause and using me as the sacrifice to launch you two into a strong endgame, can you give me specific pointers on how to improve my scum game? I honestly don't think I've been doing that bad, I just didn't read all of D1 and don't plan to, and that's because of personal time constraints, not because I'm scum.

If we get a successful kill on Nero then I don't think the town is going to be at my throat at all. I think the majority of the pressure will actually be on you because people will be very suspicious of two quickhammers on town in a row. Both of those were great scores for us and I am not saying they were a bad move but you're going to catch some heat for those in this next day phase.

I feel like I can accomplish what our goal is here without being a sacrifice and that we can pull through D3 with all four of us still being read fairly town in most of the other team's eyes. And while I understand if you think I'm not playing well, it seems you're viewing my utility and usefulness as so low that the only thing I'm good for now is just throwing out there to look like the VI and sacrifice myself for you two.

I'm not opposed to sacrificing myself if it makes us win, but I would feel better doing it in a constructive way where I can learn something through this game, and right now it seems more like a, "Glitch sucks, throw him out there so we get town cred."

I may not be the strongest player out there but I think there is a degree of my ability you're underestimating.

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Glitch you need to be Guillotina 2.0, make a massive distraction but town needs to think "this guy is a confused townie, he is so off his rocker and out of sync that he's probably just dumb town and not manipulative scum or hiding scum". The exact player that town doesn't want to lynch at this point is an idiot. They will be more willing to lynch me or someone that will give them any sort of clue to what's going on, any information to go on, rather than a village idiot. That's why that's the perfect role for you to slip into to avoid getting lynched.

Sorry, I just read this. I read and respond as I work through threads. Oops.

It makes sense as a strategy. I got the wrong impression from your last post that I need to be a sacrificial VI to push y'all into endgame.

I can throw out a ton of crazy theories and create confusion and chaos. Just don't throw me out as a lost cause yet.

[Glitch]

I can create division without being the VI and while still garnering TRs.

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Lol where do you think TGP's head is at:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=85064

I actually love this thread

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My body is ready for D3

If Nero survives it will be a wild ride.

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I will continue to TR all 3 of you and if I die, use that in your favor. My meta is to bus the living shit out of my scum partners and people know it.

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Will do shortly
If Gamma ever starts to SR or vote ABR we should schedule a time to do a scum theater blitz shitfight over whether ABR is scum or not

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Yes. It would be so fun

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https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Redirector

There's either one of these in the game or Guillo was an bumbling idiot.

[Glitch]

so we kill nero because... we're paranoid they're going to kill one of us? maybe if glitch is scum (i think one of his most recent scumspect?) but what do they even have to gain at this point, if they're just getting flashwagoned

I get this and it makes sense on the surface but while I suspected Nero and he SR me, objectively speaking, Nero doesn't have enough charisma and sway with most of us to win over the majority to wagon on. Nero's case on me was bad, shifting to SR me only when I told him I was suspicious on him, and his case on me was laced with an OMGUS undertone. Nero wasn't a threat to me and if I were scum I would literally have no reason to NK Nero when a town tracker just flipped the day before with a red check on Nero. If I were scum, I would know Nero was town and literally have no reason to get rid of him because he would have been a speed flip D3. We would have all been at his throat, especially with a VT claim.

Is this too defensive to post?

[Glitch]

lmao you want me to tie up my own noose Albert

[Glitch]

i still feel like scum thought he was SK last night, and that guil saw nero visiting guil which was essentially a guilty

pegged it

[Glitch]

maybe you could reread?

Can't re-read if you didn't read to begin with~
^my strategy this game lmao

[Glitch]

I think we bullshit around the bush today talking about lurkers and then we all compromise on IV. We could get a lunch there with town support. Tomorrow we can get DGB. Next day NPOM.

[Glitch]

I think all 3 of them have enough garnered paranoia with the town to be good day elims

[Glitch]

Me and Insano have the ability to quick hammer LMH while taking advantage of the low activity of the game. Should we? He is L2. We can schedule a time to both vote him literally at the exact same time and then quickly unvote when whoever the second person's post goes through and make it look like we just posted at the same time and didn't mean to hammer.

[Glitch]

No preference. I am lurking so bad in this game but I promise it isn't on purpose. I love playing scum and wish I could high effort it. My other games have ended though and this is my only one left so all good there now.

I'm impressed that you have 3 speed hammers back to back. Well done.

[Glitch]

No doc action?

[Glitch]

I don't even want to play this game anymore. Fucking hell man it is literally just because I don't have time to play but I would hate to force someone into a late game large replacement dying scum slot.

Maybe I'll claim 2 shot mailman using only 1 shot on Umlaut with 1 left

Vig doesnt make sense to me

[Glitch]

Aight it'll be short and sweet but I'll run with it

[Glitch]

I can't claim full vig or they'll lynch me Because of 3 days with one kill at night. I claimed 2 shot and I killed umlaut

[Glitch]

Yeah if I can get one more mislynch out of it before they kill me off then that leaves y'all in perpetual pulp with only one more mislynch to win

[Glitch]

We might be able to pull this off for one more day, maybe even two.

My story:
Scum targeted IV for NK
DGB blocked the kill
I am vig and killed umlaut
I will angle it today as "give me ome more day to prove myself and I will shoot ABR tonight," that way we lynch town today
Tomorrow when we kill off any townie I spin it as "DGB is scum role stopper and scum targeted umlaut for NK that night so we both killed umlaut at the same time. DGB knew i was going to shoot ABR so they killed someone else and role stopped me so I was the perfect mislynch d5 to win the game"

Does that make sense?

It's a stretch but it is worth trying

[Glitch]

Sorry ABR. My poor play may have cost both of us our lives. Genuine apology. :/

Does this response sound too much like sealing the deal on associating ourselves to each other? Or would this be good?

I have always held ABR as a more prestigious name because I follow his scum hunting guide pretty religiously. If you look at Mini Normal Philosophers and Large Theme Trials you'll see I reference in both my town and scum games ABR's wiki article on how to hunt scum. This was my first game to ever actually play with him and I have felt really intimidated by him. But these hammers piling up one after another are too much to not be scum. One is understandable. Two was sketchy but I understood the reasoning behind them if he's town -- the "not delay the inevitable" argument seemed to make sense to me. But 3 times in a row is too killer for me to think anything but scum.

Also if you look at any of my scum games, literally all of them I bus the shit out of my teammates.