Mini Normal 2177 | Town Win

[shellyc]

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[TheFuzzylogic99]

just to clarify I am talking about post 290

also, we should not kill till we get a claim unless we are t-1 day or less. Just my humble opinion. Take it as it is

[Not_Mafia]

Wtf is t?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I mean that we should not kill without a claim unless we have less than 1 day. t-minuus is a term they use in rocket launches. It was the first thing that popped into my brain. like to say I used it because I thought I was smart or something but nope....random brain fart.

if you think TGP is scum why not vote for him???

[Noraa]

How accurate are your reads, Nora?

I haven't had that much experience playing mafia. Some games my reads are shockingly accurate and then I .... die night 1/2. Some games my reads are bullshit and I live til endgame for those trash reads.

I'm feeling good about this game. I think it's going to be one of my shockingly accurate ones.

[Noraa]

I dont think golden ever flips town here. But if golden flips town, I look at who derailed the golden wagon/were hesitant. I'd start sussing Rockhopper. Hiraki is still in the scum pool regardless of Golden's flip. I'll start sussing Taylor as well.

Can you elaborate on this? Why would scum derail a wagon on town?

for the towncred.

[Noraa]

a little bit of buddying doesn't get anyone a TR from me.

How do you square this with your read on Fuzzy?

very different. Fuzzy is at least coming off towny in general. Rockhopper has been on like three different wagons. Their solves have changed like 4 times now. Thats not exactly towny or even null behavior

[Noraa]

You should not read too much into it.

dont care. I believe my read is correct.

[Noraa]

if you think TGP is scum why not vote for him???

1) if you are town, retract that SR on NM. He is 99% town here.
2) NM always wants the hammers.

[Rockhopper]

voted taylor because i scumlean her but mainly because of wagonomics
i think my wagon is scum driven, so the primary alternative to my wagon (taylor) is probably town driven and more likely to be scum

If you are town, scum prolly are a bit wary of being on your wagon because of it's momentum and the whole 'scum on wagon' vibes it's giving off.

Being on a counter wagon feels like safer play atm imo, and the way fuzzy is going on about it seems suspicious to me.

dont you scumread me? im on the wagon.

I still stand by 177

[TheGoldenParadox]

How accurate are your reads, Nora?

I haven't had that much experience playing mafia. Some games my reads are shockingly accurate and then I .... die night 1/2. Some games my reads are bullshit and I live til endgame for those trash reads.

I'm feeling good about this game. I think it's going to be one of my shockingly accurate ones.

oh my god

[Hiraki]

- what makes you think NM will be useful. Your logic seems fuzzy.

I said helpful, not useful. Two big distinctions. Useful implies that he'll comply with questions. Helpful means that he'll answer with something. That being said, he's definitely made it easier for me to TR TGP.

I don't see why scumTGP wouldn't bring up what I did regarding L-1 if he actually had a vendetta against NM starting back in 2017 (this would also require me to fact check that which I don't really think I will do). I don't see TGP as being survivalist here which along with everything else is pinging me in the wrong direction.

That being said, TGP has also done nothing to redeem his slot and might as well be as useless as what he calls NM to be at the moment. If he got eliminated, I wouldn't cry. I just think that flip turns green rather than red.

- can you explain your scum read on Herta. Seems a bit random. Cna you explain your logic please.

Coasting and bad vote placement -

Shoshin is explaining nothing and parked on Taylor for reasons?

VOTE: Shoshin

This post specifically pinged me because -

Shoshin, rockhopper, tgp, N_M, fuzzy. Please start towning.

It's immediately followed by this one.

Official Vote Count 1.6

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to launch.

Not_Mafia

(2): Not_Mafia, TheGoldenParadox

TheGoldenParadox

(5): geraintm, Noraa, JacksonVirgo, Zurel, Tayl0r Swift

(L-2)

Tayl0r Swift

(1): Shoshin

JacksonVirgo

(1): Rockhopper

Shoshin

(1): Herta

Not Voting

(2): nepenthe, TheFuzzylogic99

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-18 18:37:20).

Mod notes:

- Hiraki requests to replace nepenthe, and will join us when he confirms.
- Pagetop!

Here's the votecount two pages later (without looking too hard, there were no giant swings in voting). Two people on that list are already wagoned right now and Herta's bet is on someone that is parked on someone for 'no reason'? Really?

Not to mention, Herta's fascination with Shoshin is really odd:

Still wondering about this. Looks more and more like not rvs but ???

My questions are as follows and require no answer:

1) Who cares about this?
2) Do you think this one vote will lead to a wagon?
3) Is there anyone else doing the same exact thing (no - not referring to N_M) that is worthy of calling out?

Herta easily has the most scum equity in the game and I think there's a huge opportunity being missed here but I'm not going to cry over that either if that happens D2.

The lack of interaction with Golden and the noticeable kind of avoiding Golden but slightly agreeing with consensus with the "yikes" makes me think high partner equity. Scum bin for you, sir.

This makes no sense but ok?

avoids quoting most of Goldens posts that look extremely bad

You've played with me before. I don't quote things that aren't worth a discussion that hasn't been had or that needs to be said.

Golden's posts that look "extremely bad" include pushing on a slot that is notoriously annoying to read and that I, myself, have borderline flipped out on in the past. To act like TGP doesn't have any justification for trying to get rid of N_M on Day 1 is nonsense. Could it be a scumplay to get rid of an easy town target? Sure. I don't see that though. Don't act like I just ignored it though. You already called my wallpost a wallpost (it's really not that long...) so your criticism is to add more that falls in line with your reads? No thanks.

Feels like hardcore scum theater.

Keep dreaming.

Aint no one did intent and he's not even at E-1.

FYI - TGP is effectively at L-1. N_M will hammer TGP once he gets to L-1 with or without claim. It's just an N_M thing.

As much as you claim, you know nothing about N_M.

vote: fuzzylogic

Enlighten me - why? Also how does Geriantim go into the town bucket?

what makes you confident in NM town at this point?

This is when I first realized that Noraaa doesn't know how to read N_M.

Wow TGP sure dropped his dedication to my policy elim awfully quickly

I disagree hard with this, even though I know you're just trying to be witty. There's 3 days left in D1.

i come back after a day away, i dont think anyone has any quotes of my post or any questions for me. i just see me added to the town pile by a bunch of people.

i don't understand this site. i play the same way and in some games i get hung up quick, others i get a pass...

i dont understand pressur eon taylor, but you all do you. i cant see me joining it any time soon

Got anything else you wanna say or that's it? You may not have any questions because you've said nothing of substance and no one wants to prod you to know everything.

He is doing a little as possible so it is hard to read him.

Indulge me - what is the difference between TGP and N_M in terms of bait? According to you (regardless of what I think on the matter), TGP is bait. However, N_M is scum for doing nothing? Aren't they both doing practically the same thing?

The above is also the reason I have a problem with people TRing N_M.

I mean that we should not kill without a claim unless we have less than 1 day. t-minuus is a term they use in rocket launches. It was the first thing that popped into my brain. like to say I used it because I thought I was smart or something but nope....random brain fart.

if you think TGP is scum why not vote for him???

I've already addressed this. N_M likes to save his vote for hammers. That is why I bolded it and warned TGP to claim now. This is also why TGP claimed.

[Rockhopper]

just realized noraa backwards is aaron and thats p cool just wanted to throw this out there

[JacksonVirgo]

Hmmm...

Here is where I show how easy it is to sow doubt in my mind.

@Noraa

How hard did Jackson go after you for using noob card? I mean, since you guys dug up my game, I can also ask about your games.

I believe I hosted the game where they used the noob card.

Noraa mentioned two games though.

Also, at this rate I will go to bed before you do.

Yeah I'm not entirely sure about any other game

[JacksonVirgo]

Hmmm...

Here is where I show how easy it is to sow doubt in my mind.

@Noraa

How hard did Jackson go after you for using noob card? I mean, since you guys dug up my game, I can also ask about your games.

I didn't, I almost lock-towned them which is honestly a terrifying thought.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'll start with my scum reads.

1) GoldenParadox

Your TGP read is very similar to my own read, so I can definitely get behind that one.
To be completely honest your Noraa read is very similar to mine also, especially that post as I said.

Zurel and Noraa are both easy town. TGP is the most likely scum from what I've got aorn.

VOTE: Paradox

It can't be this easy, but

VOTE: GoldenParadox

This may lead us somewhere.

this pings me

vote: Zurel

Oh, good grief. I thought NM would be a handful, looking at how people raved about them. But here you are.

VOTE: Zurel

Yeah I don't like this discrediting, at all. I feel Rockhopper is radiating newbtown energy

[JacksonVirgo]

It's page 6.

Do not care, it's still garbage fire

[JacksonVirgo]

Town bin now contains: NM, fuzzy, and Shoshin
Scum bin contains: Golden, Hiraki, and Shelly welly

Now we're just missing one scum and the game's solved
Im being overly positive considering this solve might have some problems but eh, idc. Let a girl dream.

Did you just TMI the scum amount?

[JacksonVirgo]

Infact, you should vote TGP

No, scum would have claimed PR. TGP is town

[JacksonVirgo]

Shelly welly

shelly is... the mod.

mhm this is a 14 player mini with a 4 people scum team where one is confirmed scum by the mod, shelly welly. It's like an IC but for scums.

It's a 12 player list dude

[geraintm]

people trying to get not mafia lynched are wasting time. it is impossible to get them lynched day 1

someone asked why i was being put in the town pile.
i think people put me in the town bin because even if i am not town, i am pretty obvious as scum and can be spotted later on.

i would get mor einvolved in Day 1 with more comments, but i dont have any extra info than the votes in thread and until i see some people start placing some i really dont think make sense, i cannot really engage very well

[Hiraki]

i would get mor einvolved in Day 1 with more comments, but i dont have any extra info than the votes in thread and until i see some people start placing some i really dont think make sense, i cannot really engage very well

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[Hiraki]

like come on man - are you really going to come in here and try to act like there's NOTHING to talk about and you have nothing to do? not to mention whatever the above is trying to say about there not being a lot of votes? what?

[shellyc]

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[shellyc]

it's mine