Dance of the Title Thread: Resurgence in wild?

[northsidegal]

how about something like

Let's be Reasonable

or

Let's be Reasonable Here

?

[northsidegal]

don't you guys think "Let's BE Reasonable" looks a little strange?

[northsidegal]

Nom Creature for "

Of Havoc

"

continuation of a username into the title to form a phrase a la Wisdom's "Of the One", and it's a play on words of "Creature of Habit". as for why i think it's fitting, Creature is very well known across a really wide range of Mafia forums with two most notable traits: posting

a lot

, and having a distinct town and scumgame.

creature's current title reflects the latter of those two, but as of recent

[weasel word] depending on whom you ask [/weasel word]

that trait has been less true. i also think that "transparent"—while it does describe that trait—is a little bit opaque in its meaning. there are very clever double meanings in "transparent", but i just think they're a little difficult to intuit.

"creature of havoc" to me captures his explosive posting and catch-up style (which, upon his entrance into a game, can sometimes stretch an entire page or more uninterrupted), his skill at catching scum, and (perhaps formerly – again, depending on whom you ask) the way that his presence in a game can entirely change the gamestate. i've actually seen it as a method of analyzing the balance of open setups to imagine that one player is creature and is essentially replaced with an innocent child, and to see how that would affect the setup.

[northsidegal]

also he's the 5th highest poster on the site forgot to mention that

also i still have my april event title

[northsidegal]

yeah, you could say that if you really wanted to i guess

[northsidegal]

i think it's true that creature is the same person across multiple games and thus his various traits can be seen across multiple games. i don't really think that that qualifies as a "habit"

i also feel like it's just a little bit uninspired, and not actually all that specifically reflective of his unique traits. like, yeah, some people have unique traits about them that can be seen in all of their games. it seems like the only thing in that case that would make "creature of habit" a more apt title for creature than for anyone else who does something a lot would be the fact that his name is creature in the first place, which to me seems to just reduce it to

only

being a username pun? i hope i'm making sense here.

i made the variation from "habit" to "havoc" in the first place to try to add more meaning in through referencing his posting style and the way that his presence can completely change a game. it may not be "havoc" in the sense that you might think of when it comes to other people causing havoc, but i think there's still meaning there.

[northsidegal]

I wouldn't say the title Of Habit conveys that he posts a lot as town, is obvtown as town, accurate as town, and not as good as scum.

It doesn't, you're right. It conveys his personality and how he talks.
but to me, "Of Habit" conveys he posts a lot as town, is obvtown as town, accurate as town, and not as good as scum.

like i don't actually think that "habit" conveys any of these things at all. it probably conveys them

less

than "Transparent" does. the only thing it conveys is that there's some kind of habit that exists, and it's basically up to the reader to already know what those habits are to understand the reference, which seems to me to be a step backwards from "transparent" (which, even if potentially difficult to intuit, could still theoretically be understood without prior knowledge).

one of my goals in the first place was to come up with a title that conveyed something without requiring prior knowledge

[northsidegal]

northsidegal of habit

[northsidegal]

nominate katyusha for

creative commons

beat me to it

nth

[northsidegal]

prodding mastina

[northsidegal]

i was going to nom dann for

Still Waters

, or if i wanted to really spell it out

Still Waters Run Deep

[northsidegal]

i still think still waters or still waters run deep alludes to the deepwolf idea while also proverbially alluding to exactly what pine said regarding dann's image

I’m not a fan. If anything, it conflicts with my image of Dann as a clean, tidy player, not prone to messy mistakes.

[northsidegal]

i think it's a little uninspired

[northsidegal]

the monthly titles are permanent????

if they meet the criteria i guess, for the first event anyone could just request a title that they'd get but at the end if it wasn't voted to be kept by everyone it'd go away (unless you're me)

[northsidegal]

Contacting Dannflor, PenguinPower, and nsg now!

apologies, going to decline this

[northsidegal]

Disorganized Crime

would be a topical joke on the forum organization

[northsidegal]

i consider it the highest honor when psyche supports my title-related decisions

[northsidegal]

I feel like I would be confused if I was on the forum ~1-2 weeks and seemed to find out the top of the pyramid in proactive site administration is best understood as "disorganized crime".

thematically i would say that it's actually quite close to "consigliere" in terms of mafia-theming, even if consigliere might be more directly descriptive rather than referential

[northsidegal]

i'd like to bring up this nom again

Nom Jingle Cult Following

It puns off of advertisers using jingles to garner undue brand loyalty, he runs lots of cult games the appeal of which he has engineered himself, and his current title is pretty blehful

i agree pretty much entirely with pops' reasoning, and i also don't really understand jingle's current title. it's obviously a username pun but i don't see any deeper meaning beyond being a common saying and also referencing his username.

[northsidegal]

nom MariaR for

Twenty Two Faced

When looking back through the old title threads I think there was some pretty good discussion on a title for Maria that never ended up making it through because the title fairy changed at an inopportune moment. I personally think that "I Have Many Names" was the best of the titles suggested back then but I prefer Twenty Two Faced for a few reasons.

First, to justify either of the titles, among the traits that Maria is most well known for are being very good at scum, and having a lot of alts. "I Have Many Names" certainly fits the alt aspect of that well, and while it does have something of a sinister tone that might be reminiscent of scum, I can't help but feel that it understates the "being very good at scum" trait.

To me, "Twenty Two Faced" better incorporates both elements, with two faced being a more clear indicator of lying and being good at scum, and the more literal interpretation of twenty two faces being an allusion to a great deal of alternate accounts. Also, it's the sort of unique twist on a normal phrase ("two faced") that I feel like makes up a lot of classic titles, e.g. All Work and Roleplay, Best Newcrummer, etc.


i think that unlike a lot of titles that refer to people's unique personality traits that it's both really easily understandable while still having a bit underneath. also, include a hyphen anywhere as looks best.

[northsidegal]

seems a little bit "extra", as the kids these days say.

i also like the alliteration of "twenty two"

[northsidegal]

Like, Maria is not someone who I would describe as a "Two Faced" person.

i recognize that there's the potential for the negative connotation of being a "two faced" person rather than referring more to just being good at mafia, although that's really the opposite of what i was trying to go for.

i understand the danganronpa references for "Ultimate Cosplaying Assassin" and i think it's fairly fitting. i think it leans a bit heavily on the reference side, although taken at face value it still basically means the same thing and is easily understandable.

[northsidegal]

it fits, at least if using inspect element to test it is accurate.

besides, everyone knows that only the best and cleverest people have two line titles.

[northsidegal]

i like "best in class" as a title but i don't really understand the connection to isis.

i think taking alisae's objection as representative of multiple people's opinion is inaccurate, or at least unwarranted given what's been posted in the thread.

can i bring up "cult following" and jingle's current title again?

[northsidegal]

for the record rc got a title but chose to have the paragon tagline

[northsidegal]

to contribute something actually meaningful instead of pedantic to the conversation, something that distinguishes skitter from other people who have great scum reputations (although this isn't necessarily tied to being scum) is her proficiency at lylos. very few people on the site actually go back to review things when they make it to lylo, and even fewer do it with the attention to detail that skitter does. multiple people have remarked / noticed this (to my knowledge), i bring it up now because i couldn't really work it into a good title with the thought i gave it but maybe someone else can

[northsidegal]

to contribute something actually meaningful instead of pedantic

oof

err, just to clarify, i was saying that what i said was pedantic, not what anyone else said.

if that wasn't clear.

[northsidegal]

i think generally it's just supposed to fit on one line

[northsidegal]

no worries, didn't even occur to me that it could have been taken as mean

[northsidegal]

"once it ends"? my multi-scummie reign will never end

[northsidegal]

what about the mariar title

WAIT A MINUTE!!!!

Has anyone suggested

The More The MariaR

!?!?!?

yeah, that was one of the ones suggested way back.


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i want to say that "LyLo and Behold" is really the only variant of the title that really works. replacing lylo with elo or another variation doesn't seem very forward thinking because there isn't really a consensus replacement term and so it just ends up not making sense if a different term than the one we use is what becomes commonplace. just "lo and behold" i feel completely loses the reference to endgames.

don't really have an opinion on "avenger endgame" other than i don't think skitter really has any connection to marvel movies and so it's a bit weird in that regard, although of the two i think "endgame avenger" is a lot better.

[northsidegal]

i want to say that "LyLo and Behold" is really the only variant of the title that really works. replacing lylo with elo or another variation doesn't seem very forward thinking because there isn't really a consensus replacement term and so it just ends up not making sense if a different term than the one we use is what becomes commonplace.

ELo

Incorrect.

when i say "consensus replacement term" i mean more "commonplace" than "official"

[northsidegal]

i'm not sure if i don't get it or if i just don't like it

as i understand it it's a play on "denim" which is a username pun / reference to a nickname and "carpe diem" but the link between that and seizing capital seems a little tenuous, unless there's something i'm missing

[northsidegal]

well "carpe diem's" word for word latin to english translation is "seize the day", and the marxist class flip phrase is "seize the means of production" where "seize" could be any synonym but "seize" is always used.

i mean i know that but i guess it just doesn't really resonate that much with me

i don't know, thought i might be missing something.

[northsidegal]

I'm fundamentally opposed to titles based on unusual rand sequences. They don't actually indicate anything about the user.

i think that recognizing interesting, funny, or otherwise notable events that happen to people are another good and historical purpose of titles. even if it doesn't reflect on the user's personality or anything, it reflects something notable about them

[northsidegal]

Idk the amount of discourse needed to get carpe denim through has me a little jaded. I get wanting titles to be good, but when you hold them to the same standard as you perceive a title from a decade ago, it's not going to hold up.

wasn't i basically the only one who objected? i guess mastina was also a little ambivalent initially

[northsidegal]

aronis' title has a typo.