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[Tayl0r Swift]

I can easily see a Zurel/Noraa scum-team

explain the zurel scumread for me?

[Shoshin]

I need Jackson back I think bc they seem to have sensible takes.

Howdy

Me trying to evaluate people the best I can even when I'm called shitty and scum, is pocketing, but this isn't?

Get off your high horse, Jackson. I have no appetite to pocket you.

Clear townie emotion here, if there were any doubt about Zurel's alignment, now there shouldn't be.

[geraintm]

You thought it enough that I should follow you onto another vote.

this is misrep. that was not what I said.

This is a vote i don't like.

There was a washy unvote, and then soon after they decide to join a new wagon with zero reasoning. I scrolled through their ISO and couldn't spot any recent mention of fuzzy logic (who I really hope is named after the SFA album).

This has gotten my notice

I dont have the exact same reasoning but I didn't like this vote either. Geraint, join me on Golden and end this day.

This game is dead and stalling anyways.
Theres only two outcomes:
Golden flips red.
This means I was not in fact tunneling for no reason.
Golden flips green.
This means I was stuck on something for no good reason and I will reassess immediately tomorrow and be much more open to new opinions.

Either outcome is good for town.

bolded the bit where you say we have the same read on them, and then i should vote for golden. i am not misrepresenting you

[JacksonVirgo]

I need Jackson back I think bc they seem to have sensible takes.

Howdy

Me trying to evaluate people the best I can even when I'm called shitty and scum, is pocketing, but this isn't?

Get off your high horse, Jackson. I have no appetite to pocket you.

"no appetite to pocket me" means literally nothing. And that I did see that as pocketing and I wanted to see where it went before calling it out. Don't you ever think I'm dead tunneled on you, you aren't the most important person in the world. So instead of attacking me because I don't TR you, actually focus on scum-hunting instead of baseless attacks like this.

[geraintm]

Geraint, why do you town read Fuzzy?

do I?

[Shoshin]

Geraint, why do you town read Fuzzy?

do I?

Your behaviours suggest you do.

[JacksonVirgo]

I don't like Noraa's discrediting and shading of those that disagree with them as well as their super confident tunnel on TGP. Zurel's constant pocketing of me I don't like either, especially when they are super aware that it may be seen as if they are which isn't a townie mindset also them trying to sway me onto a top wagon is scummy.

Nora's clueless. It might means she's scum, I'm not sure, but I'd rather go for the obvious scum in Herta.

Zurel's town, and I'll stake the game on that. Pocketing isn't scummy, and if you think it is, you should be willing to vote Herta as well.

Pocketing is when their entire mindset does not fit into town!pocketing. Herta isn't as obvscum as you think they are

[JacksonVirgo]

Zurel's constant pocketing of me I don't like either, especially when they are super aware that it may be seen as if they are which isn't a townie mindset also them trying to sway me onto a top wagon is scummy.

I don't think trying to sway people to your thinking is scummy, either. These are bad reasons to suspect Zurel.

Why haven't you commented more on Herta or Taylor?

I haven't gotten to them yet.

[Shoshin]

Herta isn't obvscum, because scum rarely are obvious.

[JacksonVirgo]

Herta isn't obvscum, because scum rarely are obvious.

Why contradict yourself here?

[JacksonVirgo]

Geraint, why do you town read Fuzzy?

do I?

If Shoshin is mafia, Fuzzy and Geraint are both Town.

[geraintm]

Now, Herta.

1. Herta's first substantive post (66) is calling Gertaint out for "OMGUS." That's typical scum play, throwing out some buzz words without actually analyzing the situation. If you look closer, it was fairly evident that Geraint's vote wasn't OMGUS, it was a surprisingly substantive vote.

um...it wasn't.
my vote was a random one done in the same way I do all my random votes

[geraintm]

Official Vote Count 1.11

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to launch.

TheGoldenParadox

(4): geraintm, Noraa, Tayl0r Swift, Not_Mafia

(L-3)

Shoshin

(1): Herta

TheFuzzylogic99

(2): Rockhopper, Hiraki

Zurel

(1): JacksonVirgo

Herta

(2): Shoshin, TheGoldenParadox

Not Voting

(2): TheFuzzylogic99, Zurel.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-18 18:37:20).

Mod notes: ...

I want to VOTE: noraa[《/v]

Not counting this as a vote.

sorry. messed up tags on phone
VOTE: noraa

[Shoshin]

Okay, Nora wagon isn't ideal but at least it'll speed up her decision to vote Herta.

[JacksonVirgo]

I can easily see a Zurel/Noraa scum-team

explain the zurel scumread for me?

Pocketing and general self-awareness that town wouldn't have.


pedit: I had this page open with this in it and I'm not sure if I sent it so if I did this is a double post and I sowwy lol

[Shoshin]

Why not vote for Herta, Gerain?

[Shoshin]

Herta isn't obvscum, because scum rarely are obvious.

Why contradict yourself here?

This isn't a contradiction. Scum don't make themselves obvious. Herta's alignment isn't obvious. This doesn't mean Herta isn't scum.

[Shoshin]

Now, Herta.

1. Herta's first substantive post (66) is calling Gertaint out for "OMGUS." That's typical scum play, throwing out some buzz words without actually analyzing the situation. If you look closer, it was fairly evident that Geraint's vote wasn't OMGUS, it was a surprisingly substantive vote.

um...it wasn't.
my vote was a random one done in the same way I do all my random votes

The vote didn't look random. Why'd you quote specific posts when you voted?

[Shoshin]

Geraint, why do you town read Fuzzy?

do I?

The following posts are clear evidence that Geraint believes Fuzzy is town:

VOTE: FuzzyLogic

That's the best wagon I can see right now. Everyone else is either my town lean or I can't yet understand why they're voted.

This is a vote i don't like.

There was a washy unvote, and then soon after they decide to join a new wagon with zero reasoning. I scrolled through their ISO and couldn't spot any recent mention of fuzzy logic (who I really hope is named after the SFA album).

This has gotten my notice

Unvote, Vote: TheFuzzylogic

Actually, due to time, I'm okay with switching.

Due to time? What, 3 days to lynch?

This feels like scum needing their vote to be more likely to generate a lynch than their current one

Geraint attacks two people for voting Fuzzy. This isn't something you do unless you town read Fuzzy.

The fact that Geraint now doesn't have a town read on Fuzzy is very concerning.

[shellyc]

Official Vote Count 1.12

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to launch.

TheGoldenParadox

(2) Noraa, Not_Mafia

Shoshin

(1): Herta

TheFuzzylogic99

(2): Rockhopper, Hiraki

Herta

(4): Shoshin, TheGoldenParadox, Zurel, Tayl0r Swift

(L-3)

Noraa

(2): JacksonVirgo, geraintm

Not Voting

(1): TheFuzzylogic99.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-18 18:37:20).

Mod notes:

hi will try to do 3 vcs per day near deadline

[Shoshin]

Pocketing and general self-awareness that town wouldn't have.

This is bs. Zurel hasn't pocketed you, and self-awareness isn't scummy for players in a new environment. To the extent you think self-awareness is scummy, I recommend you take a closer look at Fuzzy, who is by far the most self-aware player in the game.

[geraintm]

Geraint, why do you town read Fuzzy?

do I?

Your behaviours suggest you do.

well, I don't I don't find them scummythough if that is a thing?

[Shoshin]

Geraint claims his vote on Golden was "random." But 55 & 56 are clear evidence that Geraint's vote wasn't random. He quotes Golden's posting when voting, and in the next post, he attacks Golden's reasoning. There's no world where this could be interpreted as "random."

Geraint, please explain why you're trying to undermine my case on Herta with false claims that your vote was "random"?

[geraintm]

Why not vote for Herta, Gerain?

because I don't want to. you really keep asking dumb questions of people, what sort of answers are you expecting?

[Shoshin]

Geraint, why do you town read Fuzzy?

do I?

Your behaviours suggest you do.

well, I don't I don't find them scummythough if that is a thing?

You're attacking two players for voting Fuzzy. Yet you don't town read Fuzzy? There's a lack of internal consistency there.