BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me [END]

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I am merely a concept; I am everlasting, I am unending, and justice will be mine, in this life, or the next.

VOTE: Unhappy Birthday Boon

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Little rude, I don't think people's weights are relevant here.

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I get the feeling Ydrasse is trying to confuse us with technicalities and mumbo jumbo so we can't scumhunt effectively.

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It's working, because I've already forgotten my alignment as a result.

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Yeah

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Watch the ladders, but you should be good to go

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Sorry, was on a call

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

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I'm down if you're down

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UP TOP

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Gypyx town. Pelicans are a little shady for 55 and 58 feeling unnatural.

VOTE: Pelicans

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hub hub HUB

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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my bad, cat got on my keyboard.

Massive fan of Ircher, I forgot he was in this game. Someone @ me when he posts

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You and HUB both townread Gypyx, why?

scum!

Gypyx

reads as stilted and artificial in RVS. he feels

fake

, for lack of a better word. he's natural and at ease here, in comparison.

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Good. Those posts were meant to feel unnatural, I'm grasping for a handle on any slot right now read-wise.

Why'd you want to look unnatural?

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Gypyx

-scum

HUB

's cool and proactive so far, but he has more to prove

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Gypyx responded to me asking if he was scum for the wording of his (joke?)claim by townreading me. Given the range of possible reactions to that exchange, a townread seems to be more townie than scum reactions, where omgus or overreaction would have been clearly scummy. I'm actually inclined to say that specific reaction is the towniest thing I've seen yet in this game, so GX is probably my top town as of page 6 or wherever we're at.

+1

Ircher could've said it himself

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VOTE: Endless Terror

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Tayl0r, did you check with shelly before claiming ascetic?

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hm hm hm

Ydrasse towny

so far

. Endless Terror and Pelicans both had takes I liked in the last few pages.

72offsuit probtown for hypothesizing about how many scum there are. I think 5 in 15 is too outlandish for scum who knows the actual number, which is probably 3 or maybe 4? If 72offsuit wants to fake a townslip, he probably guesses in a more reasonable range, rather than guesses 5 and instantly doubles back on it, since that might look suspicious from his PoV for bring too far off and looking potentially fake.

samantha and Ari are both :[

VOTE: samantha

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I think Tsunami is scum. Too much fluff, not enough solving. Not 100% because it is Noraa.

Why is it scummy at all if you know Noraa fluffs as both alignments? Arguably more as town.

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When life gives you lemons

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Don't make lemonade! Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons; what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give HBB lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down... with the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!

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@Ircher

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Taly, I'm down to jam if you're not going to scam

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Or Titus, even

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you're a monster,

Taly

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I agree that some of the later townreads on Gypyx could easily be scum going along with the UTReyness of everyone's read on him, makes him even more likely town because there's few doubters. Actually, there was one person who said they disagreed with the reads on him being town, that's probably town-indicative, I should look back to see who that was.

Nice, I feel even better on my townread on Ydrasse now:

as for reads i have a faint scumread on gypyx for that one post, and something about ari also gave me one but it’s more a vague wrinkling of the nose for no real reason

There's also this:

gyp is confscum*

but I couldn't tell whether this was serious/jokey

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Taking these slowly because I'm posting in between Among Us rounds

How experienced would you say you are with Titus and I as players in mafia?

I've been around on the site since 05, so I've witnessed both of your entrances and respective flourishing as players on the site. You of course are widely known for being the instigator of the

Pelican Plague

in 2019, hundreds died, but

Titus was the first mafiascum player to step foot on the moon. Utmost respect for her.

So, very experienced with you both, but more experienced with Titus. I've never seen you roll scum actually.

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I thought Sam would respond more to the counterwagon on her when the one she placed on BEF fell apart, I'm leaning on Titus' gut with this slot.

I get bad vibes from that slot. I don't get why she thinks all of the ascetic claims are town in 251 setup-spec-wise

And 281 pinged me because interesting how? and true, it's weird she has nothing to comment on the votes on her

@samantha: whatdya think, thoughts on counterwagon/votes on you? and why ascetic claims all town

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does that work on this forum

nope! but I still want Ircher to notice me

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Am I doing good, Ircher? I only play to seek your approval.

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I think the claims are town just because a) what they claimed fits with the theme, and b) they did it pretty quickly without any pressure to do so. Like I said, it doesn't really matter if they are town or not right now. Whether you genuinely wanted to lynch them, or wanted to pressure them with votes to roleclaim, the end result is still you voting nonsensically against our day 1 interests.

I don't doubt that they're true either, but why can't 1 be a true mafia ascetic claim?

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What is your angle of solving or read on

Ydrasse/TGP/ET

?

Ydrasse will be a soul read. TGP will be a regular read. Endless Terror will be a heavy meta read.

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Taylor townleans Ydrasse. For what it's worth they're my least-magnitude SR right now.

I feel like ydrasses defense in 277 contradicts with 368 poking at the claims list a bit

VOTE: BEF

If we haven't.

I am trying to work with you to get over my OMGUS and you stick your finger in the wound.

eh i do think you've been scummy but im willing to work with you. if youre town just let your inner townie shine through.

and im not sure i townlean ydrasse. im gonna let shelly sort her is what i said i think.

-tay

pedit im open to it.

This is likely town. Don't think a scum hydra fakes a townlean for their partner, and then has the partner come in straight after and correct it. It's probably miscommunication while discussing reads in private, implying town.

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something like you / gamma / then, like, pelican/endless/hbb boxing for third place

Ydrasse trying to get Pelican/Endless/HBB to box is pretty sus, like she's trying to set up a 1v1v1. Why can't we backflip for third place instead, Ydrasse?

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It's interesting how you null me so often, HUB. You don't think any of my content is readable?

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Wait I might habe misread, what was your pelican read hbb?

Disliked their vibes early on, I like them more now. Was a fan of how Taly was townreading me but Titus wasn't, and how they called me in to talk about that.

I don't think your case is bad though, weirdly enough.

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Tsunami's silence is scaring me tbh

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Anyone have any upcoming birthdays?

I'm a combined doc cop strongman masonizer, but it only works when I target someone on their birthday.

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Oo, I also have a parallel universe modifier, so this is perfect.

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VOTE: Tsunami Slayer

Unfortunate, but yeah, very likely scum

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Oo, I also have a parallel universe modifier, so this is perfect.

Was this a joke or what?

-Shelly still phonepostin’

Was a joke

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I'm phoning a friend here-

Happ

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...and ET now that I read back on this post.

Do you trust that

ET's

read on

Tsunami

is meta based and not scum justifying a wagon?

Same question to

ET

.

Do you think the

Sam

wagon is justified? What about a

BEF

wagon?

You gotta stop calling me at these outlandish hours,

Taly

. I heard your voicemail though, I guess we communicate through voicemails like some kind of sick simulation of a conversation.

I think ET's meta read on Noraa is very justified, and I share her view of it completely. She doesn't want to discuss why for integrity of the game, but I think speaking about replacements is fine, especially when the player who repped out talked about her replacement and why she did it.
So...

ONLY READ THE FOLLOWING IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH LOSING YOUR INTEGRITY

Spoiler: Integrity-less Content

Noraa's never replaced out of a game before this one, it's literally her first one. Also, she hates scum with a passion. ALSO, she has been in plenty of very fast paced games, ones that are much faster than this one, and has been perfectly fine with keeping up and being one of the top posters in most. So, the excuse she gave about this being too fast paced worries me greatly.

I scumlean Samantha and think the wagon was reasonable. She's actually here in the thread right now, standing behind me... I feel a little sheepish. Hi, Samantha. Nicorobin to you too.
She could just be being wagoned for "awkwardness" like HUB suggested, but I think there's legitimacy in not mentioning your wagon exists being scum-indicative, like she's ignoring it. Otherwise, it's mostly just lack of content, rather than content I actively scumread.

The Tsunami lead is far better imo

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VOTE: tsunamislayer

i'm terrified of the postcount this game will rack up.

generally, you should be but ngl Im gonna actually try to be quiet this game bc I know 72 hates reading up pages of spam

-nornor

I think Noraa came in with the mindset of wanting to post less this game, after seeing her alignment.

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Lime

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LIME

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Ooooooooooooooooo

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(I'll get to you when I play later, shelly)

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Time is a concept

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An instrument that only brings pain and destruction. I am a pacifist, or timafist, if you will.

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Your new avatar is townier

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It feels icky to add Vax there but people in this pool can also be net-null or slots I'm still sorting.

What do you mean? Were you townreading Noroffsuit before the replace out?

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I'm really wary of BEF being low hanging fruit, because he's been launchbait elsewhere I've seen him.

The focus on appeasing and sheeping ET who scumreads him rather the pursuing his own scumreads clearly represents a survivalist mindset. On average that's scummy, but could probably get some better data if I meta him.

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Currently, I am voting Sam to show ET that I am willing to work with them so they can stop wasting time on me.

This is strange, because it only makes sense if town!BEF believes blindly sheeping ET will change their mind of their scumread of him.

@BEF: Why do you think showing that you're willing to work with them is going to change their scumread?

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Should mention that I think tone is towny though

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Are you low hanging fish now?

I'm trying to figure out if you actually believe sheeping ET in that manner without talking about your own read on Samantha constitutes as "working with them", and will satiate their scumread, because spoiler, it doesn't really help show/prove you're town.

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I had a dream that BrassHerald came in as a backup mod and modconfirmed two people fighting. I think I have ptsd

lol I love this

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funny thing is that brass modded a game recently where there was some interesting influences thrown around...

(love you, brass)

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Im on page 19 will pick up tomorrow.

The cats.

Lost the mouse.

sigh,,,,,

no thoughts or reads to give after 19 pages? even general vibes

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big fan of Falling For A Lullaby, Ydrasse. did you sing it yourself?

also a really big fan of Ircher

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DAMNIT. Why?

I'm not scum. After talking all about how we were going to go slow and get everyone on teh record? WTF? You even went through a long list of questions, and you know, maybe if I got to play for more than 24 hours... I could ahve answered them!!!! Like Why?

So muhc of that analysis seems town to me, but then you just pull the trigger. THis is why im not sure about you. You worried me with the "intent" and then you jsut wnet and did it.

fake fake fake

Vax caught up on the entire game. He should've known the votes. Also, this just feels off tonally

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we're at 7 votes not 8 but I think you knew that when you used present tense instead of past when referring to titus

THis is why im not sure about you

Aha, good point

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Performative sums it up well. Tone feels fabricated and insincere. Think we've got a scummazer here, people

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Can we ban whoever that was? They shouldn't be posting if they're not in this game.

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I'm looking forward to analysing all these votes tomorrow after we get Vax's scumflip, very exciting stuff. I won't start

preflip analysing

, but I'm tempted to..

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Huh, NicoRobin is a slot in this game who still only has 2 posts

NICOROBIN NICOROBIN NICOROBIN

Maybe she just needs people to repeat her name to charge up her motivation to play

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Taly, what do you think of the way HUB approached the Tsunami/Vax wagon? I'm in two minds about it.

On one hand, he didn't bus and continued to say the slot is probably town, which is a weird way to treat a doomed partner, but on the other, his loss of motivation would fit how a scum partner would feel about Tsunami's slot getting heat for the reasons that it did.

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ahve

the nerve

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I can't believe Vaxkiller is clawing this back anai282urb^wi7s8dh&&@

@Ydrasse: How do you read that slot?

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The lack of claiming is really scummy. I think town!you knows a lolhammer can happen at any moment, and Gypyx specified he would hammer any post from you that wasn't a claim.

If you "really don't want to claim" because you're obviously hinting at a PR you don't want to out, I have no idea why you're so fearless and wouldn't just claim it at that point.

I think you're not claiming for some sweet towncred to look townier for being stubborn.

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^this is to my man Vax

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Bell, you're usually good at spotting scum because of fake tone. Vax is incredibly obvscum to me. Any elements of his posts that are supposed to show he's angry or emotional read as very fake and performative to me.

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Vax's approach recently has been to call people wanting him dead scum, it's just a mass OMGUS if you look closely, like seriously just go and look at every slot he's shaded and for what reasons; they're all omgus-related and none of his takes are nuanced or hard to fake at all.

2. My first thought was to throw suspicion on the intent to hammer! Why wouldn't it be? If I'm scum and die, what would the point be? What would me "shading" you do? I'm town and the intent to hammer along with me being given almost no time has left me very suspicious!

This is a good example of what I mean by "fake". It gives me the heeber jeebers and blimey slimeys. Maybe it's the exclamation marks, or how he spams a bunch of questions, or shading an intent to hammer which is not suspicious if you look at the context of how the slot was read, and that people wanted him to claim. But it just reads as...

insincere

.

I just would be very surprised if I'm wrong about this read. These kind of confident reads don't come along every day for me.

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Really sorry to hear that, Samantha.

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yeah, no. this slot's scumminess is painfully obvious to me, and giving them more time to confuse and deflect is a terrible move. let's end this day, please.

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My syntax case was 80% a joke btw. I was kidding around but I really, really think Vax flips scum.

Vaxkiller, why haven't you claimed yet?

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hectic now that youve altslipped can we talk about it? because... well you know why methinks.
-tay

What's up

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I can't believe Vaxkiller is clawing this back anai282urb^wi7s8dh&&@

@Ydrasse: How do you read that slot?

with great frustration right now because like, if you're town you're going to wanna like... work with the town and not keep doing the opposite of what everyone else is telling you to do even if you're trying to ~take a stand~ because your role is so good it has to be hidden

like, at this point i dont' think it's town because if they're town they're being incredibly dumb for ??? reasons that dont' stack up against being an Alive PR Who Can Do Things and it makes more sense that they're just scum stalling or whatever. idk if it would take 1000 years to make up a fakeclaim though

it makes me feel bad to try and read about the angleshooting stuff though so i'm rying to ignore it but yeah :/

Believe in the heart of the cards, Ares. There are much more reasons to read the slot as scum rather than the angle shooting thing. I intentionally haven't brought that up or used it for a while, because there's plenty of evidence to see that Vax is obvscum without it.

BELIEVE IN THE BIRTHDAY THAT BELIEVES IN THE HAPPY

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You seriously just need to claim. If you're suggesting you're an IC or mason or god cop, just claim it. How is getting lolhammered at any moment now worth the risk you're undergoing if your role is so damn good?

I just don't believe it, this just reads as you taking a stubborn look because you think it looks towny.

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Supersaint? Launchproof? Vengeful? All of these things should be claimed.

Also, I don't get why you think I'm scum outside of OMGUS.

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BELIEVE IN THE BIRTHDAY THAT BELIEVES IN THE HAPPY

THAT BELIEVES IN THE YDRASSE THAT BELIEVES IN THE BOONSKIIES

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@anyoen who cares

When im scum, I love fake claiming. It just adds to the lie, the deceit, the THRILL! Check my previous scum games chats and you can see I had a BLAST in the scum chat theorizing what to claim, who to fake target....

I have a different goal here.

I care, I still love you even though you're scum, Vax.

What is your plan for someone hammering you because you refuse to claim and are being very anti-town?

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God, it's obvious I'm saying that IF you're town, you're being incredibly anti-town and should expect to be hammered. Even if you flip town, I would not blame the hammerer one bit the next day.

Everyone is telling you you should claim, scum aren't "scared" of doing anything if you're town, given there's no counterwagons. You really think everyone else is being stupid and you're the only sane one?

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Are you claiming it's for reactions? That's the only other thing I can think of.

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Yo shelly

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Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It's like

slightly

more plausible to come from a VT who has a lot less to lose, but I still just think the slot is scum

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I'll give you my shotgun ordered readslist based on what I remember

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Gamma Emerald - town
Ircher - townish
Bell - shrug
Endless Terror [Tayl0r Swift + Shellyc] - town
Aristophanes - who knows
BrightEyedFish - leanscum
TheGoldenParadox - shrug
Vaxkiller Tsunami Slayer - scum
Samantha97 - lean town
Ydrasse - town lean
Happy Birthday Boonskiies - boon
NicoRobin - nullscum
The Pelican Brief [Taly + Titus] - lean town
Gypyx - town
Happy Unbirthday Boon - nullscum

So I guess my PoE is Vax, BEF, HUB, Bell, TGP, Ari

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Sounds like stalling to me

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Gamma Emerald - town

why is gamma town?
-S

Effort and elements of a fighty/antagonistic tone early on

Honestly, I haven't read his recent walls yet, but I will eventually. Don't tell him.

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Stalling for what? For what purpose?

to dismantle the wagon and end with a no-launch today for your team
-S

Ehhh, I kind of doubt that's the aim. No launches almost never happen in practice

More realistically to form a counterwagon on someone like Samantha

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Someone, anyone, please hammer him now

I'll gift whoever hammers him 10 mrgreen emojis; that's equivalent to around 20 reddit golds

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^THIS is what's on offer here, you really saying you'd pass up on 10 of these beauties?

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i had a case on pelican ready that was about how hesitant they were on vax but. sigh.

Let's have a look at it anyway. It's ready, right?

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Also HAPPY BIRTHDAY

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Will have a look at the wagon + votes at some point.

For now:
VOTE: BrightEyedFish
this one feels like he was bussing. 829 is narrating in a scummy way. 944 is such a weird thing to call him scum for, given there were a multitude of other reasons he was obvscum. Feels forced.

HUB also sus, not sure if I buy his post hammer reaction. + most likely explanation for his demotivation yesterday is just that he's Vax's scum partner. The wagon was not based on an angleshoot soon after Vax repped in, he was genuinely just spewing scum.

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Samantha probably good by virtue of being the attempted Vax counterwagon, that he was pushing at least. and the guy sure was efforting hard, so I don't think it's distancing, I think he was trying to make it happen.

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Will miss you, Pelicans, and Ircher

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[post=Happy Unbirthday Boon]Happy Unbirthday Boon[/post]

Am I scum yet

no

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VOTE: HUB

That annoyance... does not come off as genuine.

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What is leafraking

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@Boon are we allowed to know whether the Nico replacement is voluntary or involuntary?

I thought you were against angleshooty reasons?

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How would you have played D1 as scum, HUB?

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I have low motivation for this game since there's no birthdays. Could everyone list out their birthdays please?

I get a huge boost of WIM and energy upon one, so this is vital to my game plan.

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Or just tell me if you have a soon upcoming one

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Ari/BEF/Nico/TGP/HUB

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Why the fish?

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tbf, you look better tonally by the end of that fight than you do from the start of it

I would agree with this sentiment

I think it's because HUB forced the interaction/argument in the first place, but once they were actually in it, he was on the right side of things

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also dunno why no one is considering the possibility that ircher was killed by a vig/SK.
-tay

Never. Who would kill Ircher and not feel like a terrible excuse for a human being later?

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Tempted to vote Ari

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Bah

VOTE: Aristophanes

Soooooo any birthdays coming up?

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Not sure if unbirthdays are supposed to power me up or down...

Gamma, it feels like you have some pent up anger and frustration there, have you tried celebrating a birthday to relax?

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ok i just realised something beautiful for HBB

my join date on main is 4 months before when this account was made

-shelly

I'm actually crying right now. Tears are streaming down my face... I can't make it stop

MAKE IT STOP

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Tsunami Slayer replaced out. People thought this meant they were scum. They also had some scummy posts.
Vaxkiller replaced them, he spewed scum.
Some people pushed him, some bussed, some attempted to counterwagon Samantha.
Vaxkiller flipped scum.

I recommend looking at that wagon and the surrounding events!

And Happy Birthday!!! Hope this has charged you up with energy.

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Also, as far as I remember for claims:

HUB - VT
Endless Terror - Commuter
Gypyx - Commuter

Someone keeping track fix and add to this please.

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Might be, what do you think?

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Why's that?

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@HBB, you sure? I could bus another one of my buddies if you'd like.

Pretty sure. Otherwise, continue bussing and go for the deepwolf play, yeah.

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BEF/HUB are people I find actively scummy

Ari/you/TGP are slots that we need to see more from. Oh, and Ari is scummier than average because he was elitelling yesterday.

I still haven't read those Gamma walls from yesterday... REMINDER to do that at some point. I shouldn't just assume he's town for effort.

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Sure, I can do that.

HUB I think claims to be against angleshoots as all alignments. He's not revealing his main, but I

think

it's true for him.

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Taly, what do you think of the way HUB approached the Tsunami/Vax wagon? I'm in two minds about it.

On one hand, he didn't bus and continued to say the slot is probably town, which is a weird way to treat a doomed partner, but on the other, his loss of motivation would fit how a scum partner would feel about Tsunami's slot getting heat for the reasons that it did.

Will have a look at the wagon + votes at some point.

For now:
VOTE: BrightEyedFish
this one feels like he was bussing. 829 is narrating in a scummy way. 944 is such a weird thing to call him scum for, given there were a multitude of other reasons he was obvscum. Feels forced.

HUB also sus, not sure if I buy his post hammer reaction. + most likely explanation for his demotivation yesterday is just that he's Vax's scum partner. The wagon was not based on an angleshoot soon after Vax repped in, he was genuinely just spewing scum.

VOTE: HUB

That annoyance... does not come off as genuine.

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Not sure if unbirthdays are supposed to power me up or down...

Gamma, it feels like you have some pent up anger and frustration there, have you tried celebrating a birthday to relax?

The angleshooting bit kinda put me on tilt
I’ll be fine maybe

you got pissed at noraa when she replaced out. i was sad when she replaced out, but i imagine if i were scum with her id be pissed too. look what happened.
-tay

I was pissed she took 72 with her because I was still thinking the slot could be town
Tbh I think that reasoning makes me towny, since I wanted to work with town 72, which I a) wouldn’t have the same desire as scum and b) would already know it wasn’t even town!72

That can be faked pretty easily, that's not a good reason to townread you.

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I don't think so

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Sure, I can do that.

HUB I think claims to be against angleshoots as all alignments. He's not revealing his main, but I

think

it's true for him.

Without specific meta evidence, I will stick with my belief that anti-angleshoot is a scum-tell.

I think I know who he is, but I won't say.

@HUB: You vocally against angleshoots as town? I can go check later.

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welcome shoshin!

sleep@,£÷£!*?

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ok

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Gypyx hasn't shown any sign of town. Their reads aren't great. They're a plausible team with all likely scum.

Nice. I'm townreading Shoshin.

I don't think a scum rep comes in and goes against the grain as much as she is here.

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I'm unsure on Ydrasse currently as well. I saw some towny things early on regarding her feelings on Bell, but avoiding the Vax wagon - which had plenty of good reason based on Vax's play alone - because she felt bad about the angleshoot is iffy.

BEF/Ari/HUB/TGP/Ydrasse

Mind expanding more on your scumreads and the why,

Ydrasse

? You can speak through cat gifs if you prefer this method.

Hm. Shelly seems scummy. That means Shelly is town. Done. Sorted.

this is town and i reached the same conclusion (so both shelly/tay and tsunami are town)
gypyx is probably town as well
taly seems town
VOTE: samantha this slot is scumpinging me

This is weird to look back at. It's a really strange reason to call the slot town.

nope yeah VOTE: tsunami is scum and that replace out was :^/

This also felt tonally off to me, but there's the argument that scum makes more of an effort to make it look like they actually scumread the slot over the fact they're just bussing.

TGP should probably just get a pass today on the basis that he was early on and stayed on till Vax was killed.

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There's a good argument to be made that the remaining two scum are PRs, assuming we have 3 scum and somehow not 4. Actually, that is a possibility, isn't it? We do have a lot of flipped and claimed power so far.

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Someoneeee NOT ME compile a list of flips and claims please

I'll wish you a happy birthday

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If there's 4 scum, it could easily be 3 goons + 1 PR. How common is it to have 4 scum in 15 though... you'd need A LOT of town power

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You're just not judging the fact she's intelligent - fair enough.

HUB, your VT claim looks good for you if there's 3 scum and not 4 alive, but with all the power revealed so far, 4 has a decent chance of being the case I'd say.

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Thank you for elaborating, Ydrasse. In general, I like those thoughts.

Bell actually said Vax was scum because of "ongoing" during day 1, implying he knows what Vax's townplay looks like in the then ongoing Death Curse, but couldn't elaborate. I'd find it unusual if scum bussed and then used such a reason.

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Can I see some examples of these VCA posts that you've done as either alignment, BEF?

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Look at his guy, bragging on having a whole wiki dedicated to him

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*this guy

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GRUMBLE

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Sorry for shouting

grumble

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You lack one of your own, Ydrasse. Would you like one for your birthday?

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Happy Birthday!

Please remember to view this post upon your next one.

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Could I have the links medium rare instead?

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shrug

Ari dislikes playing scum, and it feels like he dislikes and has little motivation for this game, soooo

Where's the

FIRE

in you, Ari. If you're town, you're being WRONGLY accused and charged of a crime you DIDN'T commit. Show us who we should be condemning instead.

(look at the vax scum-wagon and the votes on and around that as a good starting point - it's plenty to go on)

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VOTE: BrightEyedFish as a placeholder. I'm inclined to believe Ari when he says he forgot there was a day 1 scum flip, that Vax replaced Ari, and that Ircher is dead - all things scum would know, except

maybe

the third.

He's going ALL out of he's trying to fake townslips here.

Reminder to self to look at what BEF's VCA looks like as both alignments.

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*Vax replaced Tsunami

Surprised nothing phased you there, HUB

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Happy Birthday!

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STOP HELP

I'm still alive

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Been busy with marathons and such

I will make the grandest catchup you've ever seen, Boonskiies. You'll even forget it's your birthday

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Post 889

Is what sealed the deal for me on Vax, that quick paradigm shift in wondering why hiss claim was important after repeatedly toting the fact that its best for town if he doesn't claim.

It was 100% a scum slip.

it's such a random thing to pick out of everything, it felt more like it was a convenient reason to use to flip on him so that you could bus

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I know I've been dead in the water recently. I'll try and reengage myself at some point or another

~Birthdays

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Happy Birthday, Bell!!!

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Ive run into Hectic scum. I don't know what that looks like,

?

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How come

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My read is that you're twirling my hair

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Samantha is a really bad wagon, she was very obviously what scum were trying to push as a counter to Vax at several points yesterday.

Vax himself was also pushing there hard, and I don't buy the distancing explanation. If it's just distancing, Vax doesn't tryhard and effort so much just so that he can save himself and instead get his partner launched in his place. Samantha is most likely just town.

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Day 1

Vote Count 1.04

Vaxkiller [5]:

Gamma Emerald, Endless Terror, Bell, Happy Birthday Boonskiies, TheGoldenParadox

Samantha97 [3]:

Ydrasse, The Pelican Brief, BrightEyedFish

The Pelican Brief [2]:

Happy Unbirthday Boon, Ircher

BrightEyedFish [1]:

Gypyx,

Endless Terror [1]:

Vaxkiller

Gamma Emerald [1]:

NicoRobin

NicoRobin [1]:

Samantha97

Not Voting [1]:

Aristophanes

With

15

alive, it takes

8

to

Fade Into Obscurity

.

Day 1

ends in

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on

November 25th.

Mod Notes

: Vaxkiller replaces Tsunami Slayer.

Day 1

Vote Count 1.05

Vaxkiller [6]:

Gamma Emerald, Bell, Happy Birthday Boonskiies, TheGoldenParadox, Endless Terror, Samantha97,

Samantha97 [3]:

Ydrasse, BrightEyedFish, Vaxkiller

The Pelican Brief [1]:

Happy Unbirthday Boon,

BrightEyedFish [1]:

Gypyx,

Gamma Emerald [1]:

NicoRobin

Bell [1]:

Ircher

Not Voting [2]:

Aristophanes, The Pelican Brief

With

15

alive, it takes

8

to

Fade Into Obscurity

.

Day 1

ends in

(expired on 2020-11-25 20:00:00)

on

November 25th.

Mod Notes

: Bell is VLA until Wednesday.

I mean, come on. She was the only counterwagon to Vax. You guys really telling me we have SvS counterwagons yesterday, and Vax was super tryharding just to get his buddy launched?

BEF wagon is still good.

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Soooooo Ari went back to elitelling (posting in other games but not this one) hard as soon as pressure was lifted off him. That isn't a good sign either.

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I loom forward to HBB being a bit more proactive... maybe like a reads list?

I don't do reads, only Birthdays.

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She was the only counterwagon to Vax.

There was no counter to Vax. Scum likely bussed, as they tend to do when their partner is as scummy as Vax was.

I agree that scum likely bussed, but Samantha was the attempted counter. I've gone over it, Vax was trying to make that the counter.

HBB, have you ever done an elitell as town?

You mean make elitell reads? All the time.

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i wont make my tell public though since I wanna keep up my 100% accuracy on ydra

Did you check her first newbie scumgame out of interest?

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Samantha is a really bad wagon, she was very obviously what scum were trying to push as a counter to Vax at several points yesterday.

Vax himself was also pushing there hard, and I don't buy the distancing explanation. If it's just distancing, Vax doesn't tryhard and effort so much just so that he can save himself and instead get his partner launched in his place. Samantha is most likely just town.

so i know i've just twirled your hair and all, very cutely, but didn't the samantha wagon come first? how is it a counter-wagon?

My hair's all curly now thanks to you. Do you mind twirling it the other way to straighten it again?

And you are correct! Samantha was a wagon before Vax's wagon happened. The thing is that no other players picked up any votes, and Vax decided to vote on the remains of the Samantha wagon, meaning he was probably trying to get it going again.

Im on page 19 will pick up tomorrow.

another "10 pages are too hard to read" post
VOTE: vaxkiller

VOTE: Samantha

I don't see scum motivation in golden paradoxes one track mind to lynch a replacement. Weird an annoying maybe, but it feels town to me.

Do scum really commit to forming each other as the only two wagons day 1? It doesn't fit with the effort Vax was putting in to try and get out of it.

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Despite her random push on me, I still think Shoshin is town. In fact, that's probably more indicative that she's town, she's just saying whatever she believes without a filter or any fear, even if it's wildly against the consensus.

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Okay, in Shoshin I trust.
VOTE: Gamma

I still don't know why you've got BEF as town but I'm happy with an Ari or Gamma launch today. Ari because he has far less motivation to play this game than others, that's the only reason really for him. Gamma because of what's been mentioned about the weird way he position around the scumwagon and talked about it.

I just assumed he was town for much of earlier for the effort he was putting in without reading much of it, that was probably a mistake.

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Having read the case on Gamma, it's pretty convincing regarding always voting Gamma before Ari. Happy with my vote.

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I recieved fruit last night which is interesting to say the least. Two fruit vendors, or BEF lying?

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Bell, Bell, Bell...

First of all, happy birthday. Second of all, do you actually believe in your "he tried to retract his guilty" arguement, or are you grasping for straws because he's scum from your PoV? Because I think you're arguing semantics there and it's clear BEF meant he knew you were scum, but not in a conventional cop guilty way.

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This barely helps but shelly and Ydrasse are never ever aligned for that dayvig reaction

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Scum-aligned

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HUB, what's your intel on Ydrasse? Are you still VT, or did you realise something overnight?

Let's get this massclaim rolling.

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Not claiming yet

You think I'm covering for Bell by claiming I also recieved fruit when I didn't?

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Not also

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Bell didn't claim he recieved fruit

That's... interesting. I guess scum bus driver is an actual possibility in Boonskiies games? Let's see if anyone claims the send

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I HAVE FRUIT

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But I can't really determine what kind it is no matter how hard I look at it, could someone help me find out what it is?

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It's says Use By my Birthday

but my birthday is every day...

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I like both HUB and Ydrasse more for town now due to recent pages. shelly is still very town.

mech is like my weakest point in mafia probably, I can be good at it if it especially interests me or I devote some time into thinking about it, but usually I feel too lazy and uninterested to do it, and I'm not going to bother and do a half-attempt at it.

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hbb is town i want to believe i want to believe... but at the cost of sam being town too...... (a single tear falls from my eyes)

You SHOULD believe and your belief will be rewarded
(assuming you are town and this isn't a birthday ploy)

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Let's have a look at Bell's wall...

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Oo I like Bell for town now. He wrote out that wall in 13 minutes according timestamps, and it reads very much as a frustrated you're all bad and misreading me and this is why you're bad or scum kind of stream of consciousness, and thanks to Gypyx seems sincere (who is very possibly scum btw and I kinda forgot about him).

Also, if the only explanation for my fruit is a bus drive since no one is claiming it Bell isn't even guiltied anymore. We should be reading him off of content rather than anything else
Wait, but then I think Samantha, Ydrasse, and HUB all look like town so what am I even doing in terms of suspects
Oh, Ari
VOTE: Aristophanes

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Oh yeah, Paradox exists as well

HUB, what's your intel on Ydrasse? Are you still VT, or did you realise something overnight?

Let's get this massclaim rolling.

HBB you claim vt ?

And a modified bus driver maybe?

Or hbb / bell are just buddies

Not claiming yet

You think I'm covering for Bell by claiming I also recieved fruit when I didn't?

yeahh i'm inclined to agree with gypyx here that hbb and bell are buddies

we have one scum dead and a bunch of tprs which implies 4 scum

is ari/bell/hbb just the solve

This take from town!Gypyx I can get, sure. But seeing this from a much more experienced mech/player in general in Paradox is worrying. It's very surface level and too confident, without considering any of the other possibilities

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Ydrasse, what was wrong with me asking for massclaim to continue? There's only 2 or 3 slots that haven't claimed. I'm fine with not claiming though if you guys don't need it.

Bell's wall was actually written in 23 minutes

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although it implies Bell scum because scum are more likely to bus drive one town and one scum. In fact frankly I would think it would make Bell more likely the scum strongman, since scum would actively want the strongman alive so would make him a higher priority for the bus drive

Oh, this is a good point. Scum would want to drive a scum and a town in case of any investigative stuff, and the way the bus drive is "balanced" is because the loyal fruit vendor is an investigative where you can actually find out a bus drive happened the next day if the vendor gets a false result.

The mechcase for Bell being more likely scum is there I guess

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if you sent me something and i didn't get it i have an assumption on why

commuter enabler

that's why i know the commuter claims are real but why i also think that one of them might be scum? because like, fmpov if scum killed me they lose the power they had to preserve/hide themselves in the future from pr

+ that is also why i don't know if i was actually forced to commute or not

What did you mean by this? You

enable

commuters, you don't commute yourself, so what's your assumption on why you wouldn't receive something?

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It was not sticky lol, just fruit
Is that a reference to the previous Boonskiies game?

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Instead, I got a fake cop guilty turned into a fruit vendor claim and a lackadaisical approach to something that needed to be approached with care, but would make sense from BEF scum. But no sense from an actual town loyal fruit vendor.

This is a little yikes, Bell. I'm claiming I received fruit which means BEF really is a fruit vendor unless you believe I'm lying with BEF which you don't from your listed read of me.

Why can't you see the scenario where BEF is actually a Loyal Fruit Vendor given I've claimed to receive one that no one else has claimed to send me? The fact you're sticking with the BEF must be scum stance is worrying.

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I think HBB is town or at least not lying about the fruit claim because why would he just randomly bring that up here as scum? His wagoning of vax seemed natural and I don't see anything in his disposition that points to him being scum, he was a little sheepy, but I don't think it was a town sheep or that he took advantage of skoshin's reads to get a miselimination through. I could be wrong, I haven't run into hectic scum before. I'm a little frustrated he didn't realize this was fake, but whatever. I assumed you would realized I was panicking town with a fake guilty and not just...scum because? I dunno. Whatever.

I DON'T GET IT
You don't think I'm lying about receiving fruit but also think I should realise this Loyal Fruit Vendor claim should be fake??£"%

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Okay, I changed my mind about Bell seeming more like town. This thought process doesn't seem natural unless town!him has given it very little thought

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My god...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BELL

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lol really?
Are you seriously VT then? What were you insinuating about Ydrasse start of today? Why'd you enter voting her?

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I don't think there's any benefit to me claiming tbh

It'll all make sense when I claim and it won't be scummy, so dw

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I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes, shelly

Surely a cult leader such as yourself would realise I don't need to claim

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I'm so glad I was the mafia mason in that game

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Sure, sure, sure, I can claim tomorrow.

I don't remember which cheeky son of a Boonskiies compared me to Vax on the previous page, since I read it hours ago and only decided to reply now, but you're out of order whoever you are. One of these days, I'm gonna turn the page back and find out who you are, and then you'll be sorry when I don't wish you a Happy Birthday on your birthday, you scoundrel

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But yeah, it'll make sense tomorrow etc etc

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Oh wait, it's on this page and it's the goddamn Fish. I knew not to trust those disoriented eyes of yours. I like that post you quoted though, that HBB guy seems cool

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DayBirthday: Bell