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[Menalque]

Like I read your ISO for death curse and you seemed p capable there

Granted it’s a large etc etc but your reads improved from your initial as you slowly moves scum!shelly up to your top acurmead, and zdenek!slot never left your scumreads even if they did fade from your best set of reads

[Menalque]

You also just, seemed to provide reads a lot more and be more actively solving there than here? Which is odd, and given that we know you were genuinely solving in that thread, is also concerning

[petapan]

that's such a weird thing to BoP me on - i don't spectate games the way i play them, i rarely give reads lists in games (i used to never do this), i've tried doing it in spectator threads as a means of testing myself. i don't know why or how the fuck you think that's a valid baseline to compare my play to here. i also work better when i have a decent townread i can work off of, and that hasn't happened here. this game is full of people who are not easy to get a handle on and who don't act as strong town voices which make it harder to have reads

[petapan]

i also don't know how you came up with the notion to meta me from a

spectator thread

of a game that literally just ended and expect that to be valid? seriously, what the fuck. that might be the second worst attempt at a meta-read anyone has given on me.

it's also...not a good argument? my scumreads were 2/5 before i stopped giving lists because the game was too hard to keep up with, 1 in the nulls, but if i'd done another list that would've been on the low end of the town side as well. not exactly stellar. i feel like a big part of being sure shelly was scum was owed to leeching off the reads of the players in the game, as well, but this is a game i was spectating a month ago so i don't remember my exact thought process

[petapan]

i've had 3 completed town games i was in from day 1 on this site since i came back, and you choose to not look at any of those, but a spectator thread? what the fuck

[petapan]

what made you think that was a good idea or a valid baseline for my play?

[davesaz]

Here's an example of how to get better.
VOTE: Menalque

[davesaz]

We've taken what should be a role madness game, chosen the worst set of roles imaginable, and ignored the one result we do have.
Nice going.

[petapan]

Here's an example of how to get better.
VOTE: Menalque

i am already voting him thanks

[Menalque]

2/5 is pretty good tho

And like you definitely don’t have any townreads to work off’ve, so that’s 2/5 day 1 with one in null which honestly is pretty solid pure read atrength

It’s also clear that you are able to authentically generate reads off your own back whereas here I think you like, haven’t done that nearly so much although I do need to check your iso one more time before I lock you in as part of the solve

[Menalque]

Dave is basically just openwolfing at this point and has clearly had no interest in solving the game for several RL days

[Menalque]

His tunnel on me for a weak soft guilty and the random ATE out of nowhere that has now been toned down again is all just madly ++++scum

[Menalque]

Tbh I don’t mind who we kill in lilith/Dave because either one spews me town and if we’re all 3 town then we lose anyway (because if one of them flips town today then I think I’m almost certainly voting the other one tomorrow)

[Menalque]

And then either we lose or we’re locked in to a 1v1

[Menalque]

The main thing giving me pause is that if it’s (Dave, lilith, peta) then they all got on DGB on D1 which seems unlikely

[Menalque]

I’d say lilith is the best flip because of skitt

Dave is the best if we go off my reads and how today has been played (although that said lilith being basically completely absent isn’t a good look either)

Peta is maybe the Maori correctly mechanically

BB could still be scum and his absence doesn’t look great either

[Menalque]

A real concern is that if lilith is lylo bait then the game is lost if we do me today

[Menalque]

I’d rather do lil as insurance today bc I think it’s going to be easier to explain how Dave is scum in a 1v1 than how lilith is scum

[the worst]

vote count 4.05

Menalque (3):

Not_Mafia, davesaz, petapan

Something_Smart (1):

Infinity 324

lilith2013 (1):

Menalque

Not voting

: Something_Smart, Best Bird, lilith2013, Hoopla

Deadline: (expired on 2020-11-26 17:00:00)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

mod notes

:
- lilith2013 v/la this weekend
- Hoopla v/la 24 hours
- quack

[Something_Smart]

I don't see how the need for that is obviated by it not being lylo?

[Menalque]

Oh I mean more

Like I’m very confident Dave is scum

But he won’t be confscum unless we’re crossvoting in lylo

Ya feel?

[Menalque]

I feel like dave’s posting today almost speaks for itself, so egregiously bad and scummy is it

[Menalque]

VOTE: Menalque
Keep mentioning me?

Let's just turbo elim the guilty and get it over with.

I'm honestly just fed up with this game. You or me, now!

@ALL -- PICK ONE OF US AND GET IT OVER WITH. QUIT FUCKING AROUND.

This is just like, transparent posturing lmao

[petapan]

2/5 is pretty good tho

And like you definitely don’t have any townreads to work off’ve, so that’s 2/5 day 1 with one in null which honestly is pretty solid pure read atrength

It’s also clear that you are able to authentically generate reads off your own back whereas here I think you like, haven’t done that nearly so much although I do need to check your iso one more time before I lock you in as part of the solve

2/5 in a set of 20 is slightly above random (expected number is 1.25) and there were a decent number of obvtown players in that game. there aren't here. again, fucking annoying that you'd try to BoP me this way! also has the implication that i'm, like, unable to fake it as scum, which just isn't true. i could conceivably scumcase any player who's still alive, that' shit's easy. figuring out what's right is the hard part.

meanwhile you're trying to say lilith no-killed as mafia night1, a move i find exceedingly unlikely

[Menalque]

I’m trying to say that either lili no killed or scum tried to kill me, actually

And 2 vs 1.24 is like... a .75 improvement on rand which is not bad at all? Esp if we expand your scum pool to the nulls and you were 3/7