Open 800 - Donner Party | Game Over

[Chaos Triforce]

I prefer tops to table, but I'll let it slide, Noraa.

Time to do some ISOs.

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

Just checked with Table. He said Guillo was obvtown.

is all of our correspondence going to be relayed here

Noraa is making me suffer by using an incredibly bright forum skin. It burns my eyes.

-tabeltop

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VOTE: Chaos Triforce

They literally have hydra partners.

There's no planet where "tHeRe'S a ViG?" isn't a fake town slip.

on the other hand Noraa wouldn't attempt a high risk high reward fake townslip as scum when it could go disastrously for her partners

I find myself liking chk for stuff like this despite his content being bare

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

not reading posts correctly while also pushing there more often than not comes from scum giving out fake ass reads, in my world

cool if you don't want to play with me, but you've been lying hmmm

VOTE: plusJOYED

i dont believe a town would push me as scum. maybe you can point that out, but i t hink most towns who are even half decent at the game will note that not liking someone's play =/= wolf. so your push is that of a wolf's because you wanted to get rid of me. you aren't town, so you were too focused on trying to push me for personally not liking my posts

These are some yikes posts

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

I looked at more Thomas posts which were better

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Some of that rage from day 1 reads as trying to scare Noraa off and other parts just read as fake.

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

Bit unfortunate that our uh ... vig chose a townie.

I take it the scums killed Guillo because he hard softed pr yesterday. I remember asking table how to derail Guillo's wagon because of what I perceived as "newbie pr softs"
Vig probs killed BM. As for why, I'm going to go ask and see if table has any thoughts on that.

-nornor

Why are you assuming that the vig kill has to have gone through, and that it had to have been on town? There's 3 killing roles. possible a kill was doubled up on, roleblocke stopped the kill, or someone shot the SK.


However, yes, guillotina softclaimed PR pretty hard yesterday which is why I didn't want to vote him but couldn't really explain it.

I forgot there was a SK. Gosh damnit. Imma go read that OP again carefully this time.

-sighnornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Lol poor BM

wtf. Wtf. WTF.
this reaction is so .... weird.

-nronor

[Chaos Triforce]

Just checked with Table. He said Guillo was obvtown.

is all of our correspondence going to be relayed here

Noraa is making me suffer by using an incredibly bright forum skin. It burns my eyes.

-tabeltop

T^T sorry. u can change it.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Noraa is on the record as someone who fakes town slips as scum

lmafo. That post again. Ur annoying for bringing that post up. The sexy prfpc was + bias points. This terrible post is - bias points. Ur back to zero, sexy prfpc.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Some of that rage from day 1 reads as trying to scare Noraa off and other parts just read as fake.

-tabletop

YES!!!!!!! table agrees with me. Told everyone Gamma was scum. If table says so, its certainly right

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Oooooohhh you’re in for a hard fall Noraa.

nah. I dont think so.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

What gave you your doubts, Gamma?

Looks like you decided to take a more flexible stance on the slot as soon as we started receiving pressure, and knowing that we still scumread you.

-tabletop

[Chaos Triforce]

You should know what’s flexing my opinion on you.

what kind of a dumb answer is this?

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Fuck you. I opened up my heart to you and you stabbed it a thousand times.
I’m the vigilante and I killed BM, and he was mafia. Noraa is suspect for seeming to know Guillo was the scum kill. That’s why I’ve been having doubts about her. I don’t think it’s chkflip as BM’s partner because DT 100% gets yeeted D1 in that scenario imo.

Ok well when I said that I was under the assumption that the only night killing roles were scum and vigi. I forgot SK existed.

Guillo is a much more likely scum kill than BM, no?

The problem with this game is that I read the setup but I keep forgetting what roles exist.

Like I remember wishing I would get the vigi role like a day before role pms were sent.

But then halfway thru day 1 I was like "huh why is everyone so convinced there is a vig"

And then after I forgot the vig, I remembered it after people were like "u dumbass its open setup"

And then today I forgot there was a SK.

I have bad memory sometimes :/

-nornor

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Guillo is a much more likely scum kill than BM, no?

If this was the point u were concerned with ... like uhhhh Guillo fucking softed pr yesterday SO damn hard I was like no bruh stop.

If I was in a neighborhood with him, I would've literally told him to stfu.

his softing was really bad.

-nornor

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Shamefully, thought he was town on content.

same.

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Theres one thing that I think might be happening here. It's that Gamma is a scum that killed Guillo who was a vig.

I thought about it and its entirely possible. considering that my partner as SRs gamma, I'm going to say there's a 50-50 chance of gamma being real vig and gamma being the evil faction(doesn't matter which one) that killed a vig yesterday.

Lemme think on this a bit. I originally thought gamma had to be vig but that's not actually true cuz with everyone having the "cannibal" thing, nothing is entirely certain.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

that killed Guillo

or BM for a matter of fact.

Even if guillo was vig and gamma killed them, it'd be fine cuz the SK would never cc that claim. The SK or scum(depending on what gamma is) would just know gamma is the other and that's it.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

What... are you saying she's intentionally leaving out her sign in posts where she's frustrated? Pretty sure that's a townslip, or at least an "emotion-slip" because she forgets to sign when she's more emotional.

-tabletop

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I was always claiming after eating a scum. Removes me as a suspect for dietician, and let’s Roleblocker know that 1) they shouldn’t block me and 2) blocking scum = blocking a kill, and vice versa
I probably won’t be acting at night for now to give Roleblocker a better chance to catch scum/clear town

Well now this is also sus. I may be confbiasing BUT hear me out. I've been sussing gamma since a LONG time ago.

The moment he claimed vig, I was like ok, if there's no cc, fine, gamma's prob town.

But then I realized something. Gamma is either a vig or someone that killed a big yesterday. Those are the only possibilities, no?

Then, I was thinking about how I would be able to tell gamma truly was a vig. The ONLY way is if there are 3 kills tonight. Cuz that proves that there IS a vig and since no one cc'ed, it has to be gamma.

Then in this post, gamma says he's gonna holster.

I might be confbiasing but the more gamma talks the more worried I am that he is just scum that killed vig last night.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I mean think about it.

Guillo was DEFINITELY a pr. He softed pr so fucking hard it'd be insane if he was a vt.

BM was honestly pretty towny as well.

This is getting to a point where I'm almost thinking SK killed one of bm/guillo. Scum killed the other and vig was role blocked for some reason :/

I don't see why vig ever kills bm or guillo.

Originally, I was thinking bm was a scum kill because my subconscious always views BM and plus for that matter as scummy. I've just never gone into a game with either without thinking both were scummy as fuck.

But then I remembered that was not in fact true. Thru the argument with Doubting, they were very damn townie.

big doesn't shoot there I don't think.

But then the problem is if those were both evil faction kills, that means the RB'er RB'ed one of those two which also doesn't make much sense.

IDK. scuse me while I try to figure this all out in table's dms.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I would strongly urge chaos to consider players in the game besides gamma.

Ok but who?
Those two scumbuckets Pop long and chuck flip?
wtf am I supposed to say.
they are both scummy af and idk how to read people like that.

we have 1 flip. the rest are all cannibal flips.

Heck I can't even be sure a vig claim is real.

I hard TR sexy prfpc for this post tho. It's very very townie.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Doubting is just hard to sort and I honestly kinda think they are scum atm if gamma is scum.

cuz Plus "being scum" benefits Doubting the most.

But if gamma is a buddy that killed plus who was a vig ....

yeah idk.

I have never been in a game where flips are like this.

I struggle.

imma let table take the reins. this is all very confusing for me. legitimately.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

BM was honestly pretty towny as well.

serious question - how?

you realize 95% of his posts are actually just talking about me?

being tunneled is certainly normally town indicative.

-nornor

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or Gamma is just throwing away the game for no reason if he's anything but town vig rn.

Gamma is either 1) the vig or 2) someone that killed a true vig last night.

If gamma killed the vig, why is it game throwing to claim vig?

No one will cc.

Why is it game throwing?

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

if he was that tunneled, why doesn't he kill me???????????????????

are you thinking hard enough?

Well guillo vig works too.

Gamma killing Guillo and then claiming to kill BM works technically. Cuz if Guillo was vig, then there's no vig to cc a kill and whoever the other evil faction is isn't gonna cc.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

like he's either town vig whose push on me was sincere, (which obviously isn't because i didnt die) or he's just scum or sk.

gamma wouldnt out herself rn if he wasnt scum or sk.

why would town vig!BM not kill me?

on second thought, i remembered that if he hit the SK, then maybe. but that would have to make ME SK and also never scum partner with gamma?

if I am SK, and Gamma was supposed scum vig who found out that BM was town vig, why would gamma ever claim here? i'd probably most likely kill her

sk has to kill gamma in that case because town no longer has a vig and is at a big disadvantage. i dont think any scum would out like gamma did for no reason.

bm is never town vig because i didnt die, unless i am exactly SK. in that case, gamma outting here doesnt make any sense

so i think the correct conclusion is bm is not the town vig here and gamma is not sk nor scum vig because it doesnt make sense for them to out the information unless they are town vig

wifom .... is .... fucking ... confusing

[Chaos Triforce]

VT

I'd love to just self hammer to show my disappointment in this town like superb but table'll get mad at me for being antitown so whatever.

I'm not a hot shot pr.

Feel free to hammer.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I don't know what "tell" you found aristo, but im never gonna trust a tell from u again after this :/

Im not a pr. I slightly softed vig yesterday but idc no more. Im not even gonna soft a pr to attract nk's. it simply doesn't work in open setup.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I'm sad my talented buddy has to die a day 2 lim but whatever. I've accepted that I suck at being town.

[Chaos Triforce]

I mean if everyone is sussing me for confbiasing .... maybe they need to know that im a player that set foot on this site 3 months ago. I know nearly nothing about setup spec nor how to understand what is going on in a setup like this.

[Chaos Triforce]

If everyone insists I die, that's fine tho some people do need to stop mentioning stupid ass meta tells. I almost always die to those as town.

Aristo. Gamma.

U is officially unqualified to use meta against me. Especially Gamma who never gets it right.

Im being salty but idc. its fucking annoying when people act like they can read me but can't at all.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

Can you quote this soft?

I thought me asking how everyone knew there was a vig was quite a soft. It implies that I know there is vig but didn't know everyone else did.

It was kinda a soft, kinda not because I had half forgotten that it was open setup but I did remember there was a vig - like my subconscious did because I wanted that vig role soooooooo bad before game started.

It's confusing. my thoughts don't always make sense even to me but I thought that was somewhat a soft later on and was kinda hoping it would attract some attention which it didn't be eh.

[Chaos Triforce]

Fine with a Triforce lim (sorry noraa <3)

I will not forgive u for this >:(

hmphhhhhhhhhh

*pouts in my corner*

I thought Johnny would know I was town

[Chaos Triforce]

well johnny isn't town so that's a problem

wdym?

my partners and i so far have found him towny.

[Chaos Triforce]

Ok but like that one piece of evidence u found contradicting this was from table.

I was trying to soft vig to some extent.

[Chaos Triforce]

Guys, this is scum.

if ur town, god this is bad.

[Chaos Triforce]

Interested in this

FYI their pings are continuing strong.

you never even said what the pings were lmfao.

[Chaos Triforce]

nah I did it without even realizing it for the most part. Didn't inform table.

well u won't be able to ever convince me with a reason like "pings" in the future that's for sure.

if u can even clarify these "pings", then u have no reason to be sus of us.

ur entire progression "progression" on us is nonexistent and anyone that's town should take a good look at this nonexistent progression tomorrow.

[Chaos Triforce]

*cant

Aristo you have ZERO finished games with me. You know nearly nothing of my meta aside from one modded scum game which was one of my first games on site. my meta has changed lots since then.

[Chaos Triforce]

I'd accept a meta reason from someone that has at least one finished game with me. u have ZERO.

u cannot use meta.

tell me why im scum based off other things.

An unrevealed meta tell doesn't cut it and u will look crap when we flip green so u better think it thru.

[Chaos Triforce]

I mean I did it. Even if I wasn't entirely aware of it, it still is very much +town points.
I've asked Table if I can self hammer. If he doesn't reply by 2 pm, im self hammering.
This game is legitimately stupid. No one is trying to figure out what happened last night. Everyone's letting scumbags keep on being scummy and supporting wagons for the stupidest reasons possible.

superb didn't even look that damn scummy but y'all just pushed him into a corner, ignored what he said and let doubting do whatever they wanted to.
Everyone's literally dead and lurky as fuck and the people talking are pushing me for nonexistent reasons.
I will be self hammering today if this continues and table isn't there to stop me.

I see zero hope for a town that said I was consensus town yesterday and then just forgets it all after two scum bags start a wagon on me. There is zero consistency and every wagon is a stupid flash wagon.

[Chaos Triforce]

This game is truly disappointing. Johnny, I expect to be able to read me but then he can't.
Gamma always thinks he can but he never does it right anyways.
Aristo's never even finished a game with me and he's voting me for the hell of it.
Doubting's being quiet af.
Two big ass scum bags are just running around voting people for no reason and no ones trying to tell them to stfu and be towny.
Sexy prfpc is the only one saying im town and the only one that literally doesn't sound stupid to me aorn.

[Chaos Triforce]

DGB god knows who tf they even repped in for.

[Chaos Triforce]

Time is up. Im going to wait for table to reply to my dm and then im self hammering.

[Chaos Triforce]

That works too.