Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

[Cobra Kai]

Does Spiffeh leash work for everyone else?

[Cobra Kai]

Spiffeh if you don’t pair with me we will just eliminate you tomorrow.

Ninja-
No, but as a widely scumread slot as a sign of good faith you should pair with someone town decides so we know you aren’t guiding scum

[Cobra Kai]

Spiffeh there are cases at day start from myself and Cabd.

Your predecessor “compromised” on the scum wagon they had been townreading the whole day after 48 hours.

[Cobra Kai]

It comes off as a very chill NS town tone.

What does?

[Cobra Kai]

He’s not calling grandstanding himself town enough imo

[Cobra Kai]

I think it might be best to eliminate that slot today because we have way too many naysayers as is. Imagine with one more of us gone.

[Cobra Kai]

Oh boy I love BoPing nacho muffin

That takes me back

[Cobra Kai]

They’re not really widely townread spiffeh. I doubt they make it there, even if shit does hit the fan.

[Cobra Kai]

Not to mention the interactions between Cabd and flipped scum lol

Ninja-
If Spiffeh won’t comply with the leash we need to eliminate them.

[Cobra Kai]

Feel better dude.

[Cobra Kai]

Nacho muffin defending it is, to quote the fallen, giving me hives.

Ninja-
Pair with me and me only. Have faith.

[Cobra Kai]

Bm and bell, with us please.

[Cobra Kai]

She needs to be driven for that, flavor.

I don’t want to put a driver with her.

[Cobra Kai]

Yeah the only one I tilt my head at funny is Midway.

Scum don’t want Spiffeh dead.

[Cobra Kai]

Spiffeh has to target me tonight or he dies today.

[Cobra Kai]

I’m against this and would prefer Noraa.

I prefer sure things and not leashing and I already said I would ensure spiffeh died tmrw.
I get it tho.

Who are you scumreading on the Spiffeh wagon?

[Cobra Kai]

It’s basically like in a newbie when you have a guilty on one scum and want to catch the other with more people to help.

[Cobra Kai]

Big mcthankys from mcspankys

[Cobra Kai]

Wasn’t it obvious from the get go that was why he denied the leash?

[Cobra Kai]

Backing up his self meta. I first heard of Cabd’s gambits before anything else about him.

[Cobra Kai]

You and fire to Cabd.

Brian to Reagan.

If Spiffeh lives he has to target me.

Unwnd isn’t decided I don’t think

Maria and LLD are together.

[Cobra Kai]

Cabd I’ll shout him down go sleep

[Cobra Kai]

No Cabd fakeclaimed being an anti town utility role

[Cobra Kai]

He said that he has a semi-useless set of roles. I guess that is better than nothing

Whatever you say, sister

[Cobra Kai]

Because they can’t shoot while they drive and they drove the unknown scum Cabd.

Duh.

[Cobra Kai]

Town isn’t letting you use your role. Not scum.

[Cobra Kai]

I’m not AP but appreciate the compliment.

Was wondering what the Glenn comment meant.

[Cobra Kai]

Gamma if you target the confirmed scum tonight we are eliminating you.

[Cobra Kai]

There’s no reason for town to drive confirmed scum, what

[Cobra Kai]

No Mercy, Flavor Leaf. We don’t take our foot off the gas until we have the whole scum team down.

[Cobra Kai]

Gamma we do not target confirmed scum in this town

[Cobra Kai]

MWNN when you are here tomorrow- I want you to read Gammas play today and tell me if I’m crazy comparing it to haunted village once Isis was guiltied

[Cobra Kai]

... it’s Flavor Leaf. There is no rationalizing him.

[Cobra Kai]

We are not leashing Nora we are not visiting her and visiting confirmed scum is a scum claim

[Cobra Kai]

Let me phrase like this.

Scum want to visit Noraa. If you are town and visit you ruin any chance town has to catch scum who might visit her.

[Cobra Kai]

Cakez/noraa/Spiffeh/gamma/????

[Cobra Kai]

Still think the last one is in the bear or MWNN

[Cobra Kai]

The people refusing to play ball are likely scum in their final acts of defiance. Power through, town. Roleblock Noraa because even if Gamma is town he’s decided he’s scum

[Cobra Kai]

No we still are killing Spiffeh. Gamma better be really convincing with this plan because I hate the idea of driving a confirmed scum.

[Cobra Kai]

That you are targeting confirmed scum who has every reason to lie about their role and you are giving them the chance to take another action without risking a buddy being caught

[Cobra Kai]

Cabd I don’t know if you saw it but I’m not AP

[Cobra Kai]

On the plus side if you die tonight you and the hot hydra can spend the rest of the game trying to figure me out.

Ninja-
Hi nacho.

[Cobra Kai]

I’m fine waiting for more concrete thoughts from nacho.

Still going to eliminate Spiffeh, though.

[Cobra Kai]

If Spiffeh is town I want to look at bear more. He’s my weakest read on the 6 vote Spiffeh wagon

[Cobra Kai]

Im referring to when I kept hammering it was an all town wagon. Spiffeh town probably means in wrong on that statement so I would need to reevaluate.

[Cobra Kai]

The fact someone with a claimed guilty on them isn’t hammering a counterwagon should tell you all you need.

[Cobra Kai]

UNVOTE:

I want to make a hammer speech.

[Cobra Kai]

Don’t worry, Cabd. I live and breathe the mantra.

COBRA KAI

COBRA KAI

COBRA KAI

COBRA KAI

[Cobra Kai]

Brian I’m down to dance whenever you are.

[Cobra Kai]

I think it’s hard to understand my thought process without reading the wall.

I made a mistake on number to elim, but I understand what you’re getting at. I think once you read the wall and see where im coming from the townread will come after.

[Cobra Kai]

I want nacho to say things that aren’t finger waving at Cabd.

Such as “where is scum on both wagons?”

“Who is town?”

[Cobra Kai]

MWNN hasn’t done anything but vla either. He should be here tomorrow iirc

[Cobra Kai]

Cabd are you a flavor buff, btw

[Cobra Kai]

Interesting. My flavor (in Theory) matches my stuff pretty well.

Just wanted to check in about that. You can google it after I flip I suppose.

[Cobra Kai]

Anyways, sorry for going all mastina on you Cabd. Don’t want to overcomplicate stuff down the line, you know? Not praxisal

[Cobra Kai]

I must’ve taken some of Cabd’s illicit drugs

[Cobra Kai]

Why?

[Cobra Kai]

I’m assuming the “cutting mortals in half” part

[Cobra Kai]

Side note- Cabd are you still playing league/watching lcs? I’ve really liked the color casting in academy this year.

[Cobra Kai]

I stopped liking c9 after they cut Sneaky.

I have no idea who I’m rooting for this season. I think 100T?

[Cobra Kai]

Did I though? I hope they move that caster to reg games he’s great.

[Cobra Kai]

I don’t think I have but I’m honestly not sure.

[Cobra Kai]

If you have some free time Cabd go watch some of those academy vods! I really like how he goes back and figures out the game plan after stuff happens.

[Cobra Kai]

I don’t know who soros is either.

[Cobra Kai]

I want to say he did some overwatch casting too. Didn’t watch any of those. Didn’t feel relevant when I know more about league.

[Cobra Kai]

Cabd let me know if you check him out! I think he’ll help you see the game in a new light.

I still want more things out of nacho.

[Cobra Kai]

No bell. Hammer is mine. Kuribo style hammer speech.

[Cobra Kai]

Isn’t the bear in a hood anyways? I’m sure if he gets too sus it’ll come out. Might as well make him back burner for now.

[Cobra Kai]

It loses its effect if it’s not the hammer. It’s a mic drop monent.

[Cobra Kai]

js my speech will look best on mafblack

[Cobra Kai]

What do you expect from a LaRousso disciple.

[Cobra Kai]

muffin do either of you have anything not spiffeh related to say?

[Cobra Kai]

How boring.

[Cobra Kai]

I went to bed then we decided to let the little nacho on our shoulders take the wheel and make the boring low risk play.

I think you should shoot MWNN. See my wall at the start of the day he has pretty high scum equity.

[Cobra Kai]

Were talking about different things, Spiffeh.

[Cobra Kai]

Short answer is Dunn and Noraa occupied similar stances on the d1 wagon and I don’t think scum would be doing the same thing on the wagon.

I strongly believe it was one of the two not both. His defense of her is though.

I think MWNN has the most scum equity if we’re leashing your shot.

[Cobra Kai]

His defense of her is strange though*

[Cobra Kai]

I also think Nacho scum chance goes through the roof if you do flip red.

Cakez/Noraa/Spiffeh/MWNN/Nacho

Maybe that works?

[Cobra Kai]

1) I think there was 1 scum in the first five Cakez votes. It was Cabd, Flames, Maria, Bear, MWNN. That order is in strength of my townreads.

2) MWNN kinda feeds the fire on the wagon but not much else

3) Cakez gives two separate scum pools that have the same overlap- MWNN.

[Cobra Kai]

Votecount 2.5

[9] Spiffeh (MariaR, midwaybear, Firebringer, Cabd, Flavor Leaf, Dunnstral, Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, Gamma Emerald)
[5] noraa (Will catch up later maybe, l4pe, unwnd, Brian Skies, Battle Mage)
[1] Flavor Leaf (noraa)

[5] Not Voting (beeboy, Spiffeh, ManWithNoName, REAGAN BUSH 84, Cobra Kai)

With 20 alive, it is 11 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-12-01 21:00:00)

Just going on Spiffeh votes again

Midwaybear - He's pretty much been a willing sheep and might as well work as a double voter for the thread leader(s).
Maria - She's been vague and claimed that LLD was town; I don't remember them being called town by many people.
Firebringer - I've seen a few fleeting townreads on him, but I wouldn't consider him core
Cabd - Explanatory
Dunn - Claimed a PR and soft-defended Beeboy, who is MIA and I'm pretty sure a lot of people were suspecting.
Bell - I have nothing to say about him other than I like him and probably town
LLD - Didn't she get counter-wagoned for a minute on D1? Hello?
Gamma - That one thing he drew up looked pretty townie shallow read

So yeah I don't really feel like this wagon is made up of town all just down to kill scum, a lot of them have reasoning either unsubstantiated or are given a free vote, in the sense that again, someone like LLD clearly was an option to be wagoned but now I guess it's to be ignored because of Maria.

After it’s pointed out that it’s an all town wagon and one of them unvoted to be the hammer, duh scum will eventually get on the wagon. Look back when I was pointing out it’s an all town wagon, dude. My point was how much resistance there was to the wagon yet my individual reads on the wagon were all green.

[Cobra Kai]

Who’s you target, Spiffeh?

Also, muffinmamma8 is sus vote them out

[Cobra Kai]

I’m assuming Cabd will come tell us what Flavors role did.

I also think killing Dunn’s driver is a bit on the nose.

[Cobra Kai]

Hey muffin do you guys plan to stop being boring this day phase or are you just scum

[Cobra Kai]

VOTE: muffinmamma8

Cabd, I think we have to eliminate this today. Spiffeh has to wait.

[Cobra Kai]

I mean, that list isn’t awful.

[Cobra Kai]

Vote muffinmamma8 with me and I’ll put in a good word with Cabd

[Cobra Kai]

Hey Guillotina didn't expect to see you here (It's Chelsea)
wanna vote Cakez or Regan and get a scum?

Nobody thinks Reagan is scum

Coming from you this means very little to me at the moment. Second of all the opinions of everyone else regarding 1 slot on day 1 mean next to 0.

Idc
Still think your push is not gonna go anywhere

For someone who holds that outlook and doesn't seem to care you certainly seem interested in trying to stop me instead of figure out why I feel that way. Dully noted

This chain of posts made me laugh

The interaction unwnd quoted here doesn’t seem s/s for Maria/Cakez

[Cobra Kai]

Who’s scum, presidents?

[Cobra Kai]

Cabd do you want massclaim today?

[Cobra Kai]

I think I’m sold on muffinmamma8 scum regardless of Spiffeh alignment.

[Cobra Kai]

If it does then it does and I don’t have to have “uphill battle to eliminate one of the toughest Elims in this game” to worry about

[Cobra Kai]

I’m curious where the Bear in a neighborhood bit came from unless that was a meta tell or something

[Cobra Kai]

TIS A WITCH

[Cobra Kai]

BURN THE WITCH


(Also Cabd I want to know why you think muffinmamma8 who is now on record defending 2 scum in two separate days as the only things they’ve done can’t be scum tia)

[Cobra Kai]

We could have killed the mouse and leashed gamma to me yesterday but noooooo

We had to do the “right safe play”

[Cobra Kai]

You can’t be boon until you’ve called every living player scum at least twice

[Cobra Kai]

the B in BM stands for BigEgo

QFT

I endorse muffinmamma8 going next.

[Cobra Kai]

He’s usually low access on weekends iirc.

[Cobra Kai]

I think scummessenger makes sense in a world where scum can multitask.

[Cobra Kai]

The tricky thing with them is it gets harder and harder to elim them down the line.

[Cobra Kai]

Doesn’t mean we can’t make it obvious why they are scum today!

[Cobra Kai]

More of a “the agenda they’ve been pushing is a) defending scum and b) making sure we don’t kill the extra scum kill role”

[Cobra Kai]

I mean, same. But, I heard somewhere when Muffin is scum you can see an agenda behind his posts. So I’m trying to see it that way.

[Cobra Kai]

We’re up 3/2 BM. This is the best way to box in the last two.

[Cobra Kai]

Scum are also targeting the drivers BM. Cabd is going to die tonight, hopefully getting one more shot off.

I don’t really see why you’re against it.

[Cobra Kai]

I’m comfortable calling the first five votes on it all town- I don’t have the VC for it but know there is one with a 5 man Spiffeh wagon

[Cobra Kai]

You’re concerned about scum working around you when they already have a ton they have to work around.

[Cobra Kai]

Yeah dunn. I was already townreading most of them regardless. But that secures them.

[Cobra Kai]

I could see it.

[Cobra Kai]

Honestly looking at those quoted VCs I’m townreading the whole Noraa wagon besides muffinmamma8

[Cobra Kai]

Cabd check his ISO my belief is of the drivers he was the one catching on to muffinmamma8

[Cobra Kai]

It’s faster for scum to wipeout our drivers than wipe out potential PRs. That’s why Noraas role was blade or not- they need to wipe out non-blades to leave us in mountainous

[Cobra Kai]

Maria seems pretty confident in her being town. I’m inclined to trust it.

Ninja-
BM, massclaim isn’t done.

[Cobra Kai]

You know that every game following this our reads are going to be awful, right?

For every genius move you make must be followed by a moronic one.

[Cobra Kai]

You should be we, I was trying to be philosophical

[Cobra Kai]

Bell.

Do you think we have a vig who didn’t CC spiffeh? Or just shoot Spiffeh?

[Cobra Kai]

How else would town have shot unwnd?

[Cobra Kai]

Is it unusual to have to wait on the NC hydra players? I’m not super familiar with either of them.

[Cobra Kai]

I have no problem giving them slack, just wanted to get some info on them.

[Cobra Kai]

You guys ever get around to reads on anyone other than confirmed scum?

[Cobra Kai]

A months worth of karate lessons for free (Gi not included)

[Cobra Kai]

No, I want you to spend money on my uniform. I’m trying to run a business here.

[Cobra Kai]

I trusted LLD and Maria before it was cool.

[Cobra Kai]

But you also wanted to drive confirmed scum lol

[Cobra Kai]

You aren’t going to convince me that’s the right play just like I’m not going to convince you it’s the wrong play. You can bring the can of whoop ass if you want but I’m pretty obviously not scum with the confirmed scum we already have. All you’d be doing is making noise that lets scum hide.

Ninja-
I’m aware.

[Cobra Kai]

Go to your role pm. It will say (alignment _______) tell us what the blank is.

We will go from there.

[Cobra Kai]

Okay. Now describe any info under the “actives” section.

[Cobra Kai]

Dunn I got this you’re confusing them

[Cobra Kai]

Do you have anything under the “passive” section?

[Cobra Kai]

No we have passives in other claims.

Anyways-
Any night 1 actions? And what’s the character?

[Cobra Kai]

I know I’ve seen Nancy mod but I’m not familiar with how Nero is with weird setups. I’m bothered by this too

[Cobra Kai]

Cabd this post is for you to point me back at after massclaim wrt passives bc I have an idea

[Cobra Kai]

(Apologies for text typing, I’m in the middle of a burrito and sometimes you can’t make coherent strings.

[Cobra Kai]

Hey Cabd what do you think the odds either of muffinmamma8 are online rn

[Cobra Kai]

We on the same page with this claim, cabd?

[Cobra Kai]

Didn’t we already cover how Bork does fake claims

[Cobra Kai]

Given that I haven’t pushed you on your flavor- the only thing I said was to Cabd asking if we were on the same page. Please reread and make sure your stance actually applies to me next time.

[Cobra Kai]

Quick reminder first scum flipped claimed tracker

[Cobra Kai]

I also doubt scum butchered every single possible fakeclaim

[Cobra Kai]

@NC drivers are essentially redirecterwho choose who the blade they link with targets.

[Cobra Kai]

You think he read the scum PT fakeclaim for someone else and claimed it?

Because I do.

[Cobra Kai]

As long as muffin can keep his P R I S T I N E V O T I N G R E C O R D I think they’ll be okay

[Cobra Kai]

I struggle to see a world in which beeboy town doesn’t try to drive one of the weeaboos (said with love, of course)

[Cobra Kai]

You think he read the scum PT fakeclaim for someone else and claimed it?

Because I do.

Please kill this after we flip and thank you.

Clearly I’m not the only one who thinks this.

[Cobra Kai]

Also, who is your character's name?

Like for mine, I was..

"Cabd, Town Blade, Character Name Roc, Gated Amnesiac Cop, Night one flavor leaf link, noraa guilty; night two bell link, spiffeh guilty"

Minoth, does that mean anything to you?

[Cobra Kai]

Cabd they did it. The claims are way too similar. Nuke them all from orbit, it’s game over.

[Cobra Kai]

Don’t threaten me with a good time. I’m not dying this game unless you guys shoot me, sorry about your luck.

[Cobra Kai]

They know what they did Dunn they have to play the ignorance card to have any hope of redemption

[Cobra Kai]

Vote me then.

[Cobra Kai]

NC you might want to check the boring wagons your flipped scumbuds pushed before committing to a half assed push.

You also should want to check you aren’t taking your buddy’s fakeclaim, but here we are.

I say we leave NC for last and give me the hammer.

[Cobra Kai]

Still eliminating the scum extra kill first, sorry to disappoint.

[Cobra Kai]

I’m disappointed we didn’t get the shake gif this game.

[Cobra Kai]

Yes yes you’re very angsty we understand

[Cobra Kai]

Still eliminating the scum extra kill first, sorry to disappoint.

[Cobra Kai]

VOTE: spiffeh

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS

[Cobra Kai]

No Cabd’s on first base

[Cobra Kai]

Every available driver not in the pool should target Cabd

[Cobra Kai]

Or me. I long for companionship.

[Cobra Kai]

Gamma we’ve disagreed on every mechanical moment so far. I didn’t expect it to stop now.

[Cobra Kai]

Cobras pushing the same thoughts as Cabd and saying them before Cabd does, honey

[Cobra Kai]

Eh that was too far. No badass says honey.

[Cobra Kai]

Yeah that sounds like an awful way to spend the night.

Ninja-
Shame it doesn’t apply here!

[Cobra Kai]

I got the gift of gab, baby

[Cobra Kai]

The obtuse bear did have his shining moment this game.

[Cobra Kai]

Passive. Did you miss the flavor crumbz?

[Cobra Kai]

And yes, that z was intentional.

[Cobra Kai]

Still eliminating the scum extra kill first, sorry to disappoint.

[Cobra Kai]

That was also my plan to prevent scum being leashed to me and then killing me. I’d make the bear say it, and if he didn’t you’d call him on my crumbs.

[Cobra Kai]

I’m embellishing my hammer wall from before for the final hammer of the game

[Cobra Kai]

F for Spiffeh

[Cobra Kai]

Fs in the chat for Spiffeh boys

[Cobra Kai]

Reagan NC took MWNNs fakeclaim its game over

[Cobra Kai]

I felt awful for Titus replacing in there and I’m glad scum conceded.

[Cobra Kai]

Also Spiffeh. I hate when people doom slots and shaft it onto replacements. You’ll see me bitch about it in my hood.

[Cobra Kai]

obtuse bear also asked if scum had a godfather vigilante

[Cobra Kai]

Definitely did

It’s in the PT, go check and tell me if I’m lying

[Cobra Kai]

Ah here comes BigEgo Mage

[Cobra Kai]

I like to think we’re all cobra Kai

Ninja-

@Cakez no wagon on town reached halfway to elimination threshold

[Cobra Kai]

Bear tricked me into thinking he got a neighborhood with flames n1 and baited me into outting a bunch of my reads to mind meld with them

Ninja-
Right on the money, Cabd

[Cobra Kai]

I’m 420 Blaze It like Cabd said obviously

And Angry Pigeon

And BROseidon (I think this was the last one he referenced?)

[Cobra Kai]

You got Sakura Hana out of my play here?

Interesting

[Cobra Kai]

Nthing Paragon

[Cobra Kai]

I have my hammer wall typed on my computer. I will embellish with recent events and share it when I get to my computer.

[Cobra Kai]

I spent close to 10 hours between terracing and note taking, analysis and formatting. Sorry unwnd

[Cobra Kai]

I would join that game if it’s ran.

[Cobra Kai]

I realize now you and BM were trying to nerf Noraa. I just didn’t want to give scum access to their powers

[Cobra Kai]

I’m glad there was a scumslip before we ruined our perfect game elimning muffinmamma8

[Cobra Kai]

/Pre-in

[Cobra Kai]

I didn’t play that game but iirc they get to draft teams right?

[Cobra Kai]

You want to be a scum-Sensei?

[Cobra Kai]

What is Lucio

[Cobra Kai]

That’s cool.

I always considered myself more of a Funky Kong

[Cobra Kai]

Can Cabd v Flavorleaf be Donkey Kong themed?

[Cobra Kai]

What bugged me most about gamma is I felt his Noraa desperation defense felt the same as his isis desperation defense in village.

[Cobra Kai]

Cabd the caster I was talking about was Crumbz

I just wanted acknowledgement you saw mind lol

But yes, BRO is a very scary scum.

[Cobra Kai]

My flavor was Theory and Bear was Praxis. I didn’t trust him (and it’s also what lead me down that “sorry for going all mastina” rabbit hole- she’s a very heavy crumber)

I wasn’t sure if I’d get a passive hood with scum with a fakeclaim of my “sister”

Ninja-
I’m glad someone did.

[Cobra Kai]

Iirc I told bear n1 I was about to skyrocket up reads coming into d2

[Cobra Kai]

Who?

[Cobra Kai]

Reagan

[Cobra Kai]

I think scum felt more boxed out than anything.

Cabd truly exemplified my dojo’s teachings.