Mini Normal 2177 | Town Win

[geraintm]

VOTE: Geraint

May as well get this over with now

should I be on my own wagon too? I feel I should be...

anyways, it is the 12th today....

[geraintm]

VOTE: Geraint

May as well get this over with now

should I be on my own wagon too? I feel I should be...

anyways, it is the 12th today....

You have no wagon. But I'm sure one can be made if you ask nicely.

oh, give it time. they'll be one arriving shortly....

[geraintm]

nm is also looking mildly scummy + i have a lot of townreads so nm is my vote today

dislike this if you follow through and actually votepark/stop trying to solve other slots for the rest of the day

obviously i'm trying to solve other slots i don't do voteparking

VOTE: the golden paradox

[geraintm]

VOTE: noraa

lurker noraa is scum noraa

pings me as town

Spoiler: nm's shit

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

If town struggles with a consensus when we are nearing deadline, I want to say this is a very good PL right here. It is goddamn near impossible to read NM. I cannot and unless someone else here can, this is the first lim that we go to if we are PLing.

i agree with you and you're probably town here

nepenthe vented to medbay!

vote: nepnethe

looks town

*waves*

*looks at taytay sternly*
I gets to welcome the newbies >:(

the irony- jkjk noraa love you
yeah noraa is town

Mod notes:

nepenthe has another (expired on 2020-11-13 03:28:34) to remember Mini Normal 2177 exists before I start looking for a replacement.

So he never vented? That can't be true..

vote: shellyc

I regret to inform you that we cannot launch the user "shellyc", as she is not on the playerlist of this game. -S

rock also looks town here, and the mod note makes them look townier

VOTE: zurel

Sup folks?

Schadd game in the normal queue. Oxymoron.

don't like herta's opening

VOTE: Jackooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

JACKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

VOTE: NORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

NORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Please count vote

JACKOOOOOOO
*performs the summoning wild Jackos ritual*

It worked! :O

okay this seems like town jackson

VOTE: Geraint

May as well get this over with now

should I be on my own wagon too? I feel I should be...

anyways, it is the 12th today....

You have no wagon. But I'm sure one can be made if you ask nicely.

oh, give it time. they'll be one arriving shortly....

this interaction pings me as manufactured and fake s/s
nm is also looking mildly scummy + i have a lot of townreads so nm is my vote today

Let me understand this correctly, a post where I say I am sure they'll be a wagon on me soon is scummy?
And the whole exchange is contrived between scum partners?

[geraintm]

nm is also looking mildly scummy + i have a lot of townreads so nm is my vote today

dislike this if you follow through and actually votepark/stop trying to solve other slots for the rest of the day

obviously i'm trying to solve other slots i don't do voteparking

VOTE: the golden paradox

Why you omgus my liege?

I didn't

[geraintm]

so im just gonna say now that i will not be voting NM or gerain today. they are both players that dont do a whole lot day 1. NM doesnt really do much even after day 1. but they both do contribute in their own ways, especially as the game progresses. and they are far too easy for scum to push for free kills early that give town little to no info, and they are much easier to actually read later on, particularly gerain.

I like that being consistent pays off, I knew it would eventually and this time I am town too!

[geraintm]

Did you confuse what OMGUS mean, Herta? OMGUS is when you vote someone for voting you. Geraintm didn't vote GoldenParadox because Golden voted him.

omgus as in TGP scum read him, so geraintm voted him. Falls into the same theory.

I didn't vote for them because they thought I was scummy. I had reason to vote for them

I wonder how long I can string this along for

[geraintm]

GP is probably scum.
Partners could be nepenthe,Shoshin, Fuzzy,Rockhopper.

Likely 3 scum in total. GP/Fuzzy/Shoshin would be my early game gut-solve. Highly likely wrong

then why bother spewing our reads, that, if they are correct is down to pure chance?

[geraintm]

i come back after a day away, i dont think anyone has any quotes of my post or any questions for me. i just see me added to the town pile by a bunch of people.

i don't understand this site. i play the same way and in some games i get hung up quick, others i get a pass...

i dont understand pressur eon taylor, but you all do you. i cant see me joining it any time soon

[geraintm]

people trying to get not mafia lynched are wasting time. it is impossible to get them lynched day 1

someone asked why i was being put in the town pile.
i think people put me in the town bin because even if i am not town, i am pretty obvious as scum and can be spotted later on.

i would get mor einvolved in Day 1 with more comments, but i dont have any extra info than the votes in thread and until i see some people start placing some i really dont think make sense, i cannot really engage very well

[geraintm]

like come on man - are you really going to come in here and try to act like there's NOTHING to talk about and you have nothing to do? not to mention whatever the above is trying to say about there not being a lot of votes? what?

Yes, pretty much. I cannot go big brain on day 1 and ever say I am certain about someone's alignment. I'm not that good a player. Expecting more from me seems impossible.

When I see people join wagons with weird reasons I'll say

[geraintm]

Did you just TMI the scum amount?

All mini normals have 3 scum. That not a rule?

i just came from a game where everyone was convnced there must be 4 because town were winnign so easily

[geraintm]

i'm not attacking you, do you feel threatened? clearly if i'm not talking about the elephant in the room but i'm talking about all of the reactions to said elephant, i am ignoring that elephant

i didnt even realise there was an elephant in the room...

[geraintm]

VOTE: FuzzyLogic

That's the best wagon I can see right now. Everyone else is either my town lean or I can't yet understand why they're voted.

This is a vote i don't like.

There was a washy unvote, and then soon after they decide to join a new wagon with zero reasoning. I scrolled through their ISO and couldn't spot any recent mention of fuzzy logic (who I really hope is named after the SFA album).

This has gotten my notice

[geraintm]

This is a vote i don't like.

There was a washy unvote, and then soon after they decide to join a new wagon with zero reasoning. I scrolled through their ISO and couldn't spot any recent mention of fuzzy logic (who I really hope is named after the SFA album).

This has gotten my notice

I dont have the exact same reasoning but I didn't like this vote either. Geraint, join me on Golden and end this day. This game is dead and stalling anyways.
Theres only two outcomes:
Golden flips red.
This means I was not in fact tunneling for no reason.
Golden flips green.
This means I was stuck on something for no good reason and I will reassess immediately tomorrow and be much more open to new opinions.

Either outcome is good for town.

im baffled. I commented on a bad vote by zurel, and you use that as a means of trying to to get me to vote for Golden?

[geraintm]

Unvote, Vote: TheFuzzylogic

Actually, due to time, I'm okay with switching.

Due to time? What, 3 days to lynch?

This feels like scum needing their vote to be more likely to generate a lynch than their current one

[geraintm]

You had a similar view as mine on something. is it weird I assume you might join my thought process somewhere else?

yes, that is weird

[geraintm]

I like how no gets Geraint's name correct even though it's literally just an actual name and an initial

The M is from my surname.
Geranium is a cool one, I liked that

[geraintm]

Zurel is pretty meh but I dont sense any scummy vibes at all which could be a red flag but I'm willing to town bin for now.

Bull. You have posted how my view on them and yours were the same, that their vote was scummy.
I want to VOTE: noraa[《/v]

[geraintm]

that their vote was scummy.

yeah but they are a noob. by noob standards, that is nothing.

You thought it enough that I should follow you onto another vote.

[geraintm]

You thought it enough that I should follow you onto another vote.

this is misrep. that was not what I said.

This is a vote i don't like.

There was a washy unvote, and then soon after they decide to join a new wagon with zero reasoning. I scrolled through their ISO and couldn't spot any recent mention of fuzzy logic (who I really hope is named after the SFA album).

This has gotten my notice

I dont have the exact same reasoning but I didn't like this vote either. Geraint, join me on Golden and end this day.

This game is dead and stalling anyways.
Theres only two outcomes:
Golden flips red.
This means I was not in fact tunneling for no reason.
Golden flips green.
This means I was stuck on something for no good reason and I will reassess immediately tomorrow and be much more open to new opinions.

Either outcome is good for town.

bolded the bit where you say we have the same read on them, and then i should vote for golden. i am not misrepresenting you

[geraintm]

Geraint, why do you town read Fuzzy?

do I?

[geraintm]

Now, Herta.

1. Herta's first substantive post (66) is calling Gertaint out for "OMGUS." That's typical scum play, throwing out some buzz words without actually analyzing the situation. If you look closer, it was fairly evident that Geraint's vote wasn't OMGUS, it was a surprisingly substantive vote.

um...it wasn't.
my vote was a random one done in the same way I do all my random votes

[geraintm]

Official Vote Count 1.11

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to launch.

TheGoldenParadox

(4): geraintm, Noraa, Tayl0r Swift, Not_Mafia

(L-3)

Shoshin

(1): Herta

TheFuzzylogic99

(2): Rockhopper, Hiraki

Zurel

(1): JacksonVirgo

Herta

(2): Shoshin, TheGoldenParadox

Not Voting

(2): TheFuzzylogic99, Zurel.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-18 18:37:20).

Mod notes: ...

I want to VOTE: noraa[《/v]

Not counting this as a vote.

sorry. messed up tags on phone
VOTE: noraa

[geraintm]

Geraint, why do you town read Fuzzy?

do I?

Your behaviours suggest you do.

well, I don't I don't find them scummythough if that is a thing?

[geraintm]

Why not vote for Herta, Gerain?

because I don't want to. you really keep asking dumb questions of people, what sort of answers are you expecting?

[geraintm]

VOTE: Geraint

May as well get this over with now

should I be on my own wagon too? I feel I should be...

anyways, it is the 12th today....

nm is also looking mildly scummy + i have a lot of townreads so nm is my vote today

dislike this if you follow through and actually votepark/stop trying to solve other slots for the rest of the day

obviously i'm trying to solve other slots i don't do voteparking

VOTE: the golden paradox

my first post was 42
I said 12th
I quoted the 12th post after mine and voted for them.
go and look at all my other games and how I random vote.

[geraintm]

Geraint, why do you town read Fuzzy?

do I?

The following posts are clear evidence that Geraint believes Fuzzy is town:

VOTE: FuzzyLogic

That's the best wagon I can see right now. Everyone else is either my town lean or I can't yet understand why they're voted.

This is a vote i don't like.

There was a washy unvote, and then soon after they decide to join a new wagon with zero reasoning. I scrolled through their ISO and couldn't spot any recent mention of fuzzy logic (who I really hope is named after the SFA album).

This has gotten my notice

Unvote, Vote: TheFuzzylogic

Actually, due to time, I'm okay with switching.

Due to time? What, 3 days to lynch?

This feels like scum needing their vote to be more likely to generate a lynch than their current one

Geraint attacks two people for voting Fuzzy. This isn't something you do unless you town read Fuzzy.

The fact that Geraint now doesn't have a town read on Fuzzy is very concerning.

if you look how I play, I comment on votes. and this is what I am doing here. the target of the vote isn't (to me) as important as how the person justified the vote.

[geraintm]

thats bordering on provable randomness.

? I am not sure what the issue is. I need a way to come up with a random vote to start the game. I pick a number, and then let the thread work out who my first random vote should be.
is that bad? I suppose someone who knows my early posts could spot this and stalk the thread, waiting to post to become my random vote.

[geraintm]

who wants a noraa wagon?

Zurel is pretty meh but I dont sense any scummy vibes at all which could be a red flag but I'm willing to town bin for now.

Bull. You have posted how my view on them and yours were the same, that their vote was scummy.
I want to VOTE: noraa[《/v]

An interesting sequence here.

#taylor's post had nothing to do with mine. mine was at the end of a series of posts with them, there was clear progression in my posts

[geraintm]

VOTE: FuzzyLogic

That's the best wagon I can see right now. Everyone else is either my town lean or I can't yet understand why they're voted.

This is a vote i don't like.

There was a washy unvote, and then soon after they decide to join a new wagon with zero reasoning. I scrolled through their ISO and couldn't spot any recent mention of fuzzy logic (who I really hope is named after the SFA album).

This has gotten my notice

Unvote, Vote: TheFuzzylogic

Actually, due to time, I'm okay with switching.

Due to time? What, 3 days to lynch?

This feels like scum needing their vote to be more likely to generate a lynch than their current one

Can you elaborate your logic? What's scummy about voting Fuzzy over Golden?

nope, no elaboration coming. my thinking is in those posts.
I just said I think you ask pointless questions of people, and you do it again. if you like that style of posting, you do you but I will advise it won't help your interactions with me

[geraintm]

Geraint attacks two people for voting Fuzzy. This isn't something you do unless you town read Fuzzy.

The fact that Geraint now doesn't have a town read on Fuzzy is very concerning.

I think you have to understand that just because you don't scum read or town read a particular slot doesn't mean the opposite.

also, because I think what you did was scummy, doesn't mean I can't eliminate the possibility that the person they are voting for isn't also scum. the chances of me being correct are alwas low

[geraintm]

Cant have nolim

Why not?

[geraintm]

I've looked st Herta 's iso, there is very little to it. Nothing obvious screams out for distancing.

On s purely odds basis, I'd want to lynch in those off wagon unless others have more info/better ideas

[geraintm]

VOTE: geraintm

Any reason why? Because I know you haven't got a result on me to justify that

[geraintm]

Official Vote Count 1.11

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to launch.

TheGoldenParadox

(4): geraintm, Noraa, Tayl0r Swift, Not_Mafia

(L-3)

Shoshin

(1): Herta

TheFuzzylogic99

(2): Rockhopper, Hiraki

Zurel

(1): JacksonVirgo

Herta

(2): Shoshin, TheGoldenParadox

Not Voting

(2): TheFuzzylogic99, Zurel.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-18 18:37:20).

Mod notes: ...

I want to VOTE: noraa[《/v]

Not counting this as a vote.

So, looking at the herta wagon and how it formed and what happened.

This was te first vote count with votes for HErta - Golden paradox and shoshin (who we know is town)

after that point, these are the votes I can see that were placed not on the herta wagon

Jackson/no lynch onto Noraa
Me onto Noraa
Herta onto Hiraki

So, we know HErta is scum.
I know I am town
so...I am thinking that scum might have wanted to try and get an anti HErta wagon going so I am going to go look at Jackson's vote for Noraa

I just think that flip turns green rather than red.

if golden flips red, we are limming you immediately the next day no question.

We're not flipping Golden, they're Town

Infact, you should vote TGP

No, scum would have claimed PR. TGP is town

I almost always claim vt as scum bc of this train of thought so absolutely not. Jacko, ur partner equity with golden just went up.

also he claimed when
1) he wasn't at E-1
2) no one even declared intent

That's towny behavior?

NU UH

Seriously? Just because you do something doesn't mean it's normal to do. You're reaching pretty far

TGP did claim Vanilla Townie and they are obviously Town for it. What mafia would NOT claim PR if pushed to be yeeted D1

hmmm
Hiraki/Jacko/Golden/Shelly

it sounds quite plausible if u ask me.

VOTE: Noraa

Noraa is discrediting all that disagree with them

these posts are about 130 game posts after my initial vote for noraa (which didn't go through) but before my corrected vote

Zurel's constant pocketing of me I don't like either, especially when they are super aware that it may be seen as if they are which isn't a townie mindset also them trying to sway me onto a top wagon is scummy.

I don't think trying to sway people to your thinking is scummy, either. These are bad reasons to suspect Zurel.

Why haven't you commented more on Herta or Taylor?

I haven't gotten to them yet.

we get this later from Jackson about herta (everything between these is bashing noraa btw)..


Like....this isn't any concrete evidence on the Jackson slot, but it is the best I have, trying to see if scum tried to form a defensive wagon to their partner. if I had an investigative role last night it would have been where I looked....

the people not on the herta wagon yesterday btw were Jackson/no lynch, me, Rockhopper and Noraa. unless someone has a better idea I would want to kill one of no lynch, rockhopper or noraa (and I ended yesterday on noraa and don't like the Jackson/no lynch slot)

[geraintm]

creative mod has posted whilst I was writing that, will get onto it after lunch

[geraintm]

Oh just remembered that there was another thing about Fuzzy.

When Fuzzy jumped onto the Herta wagon was really weird and I can't quite tell whether it's townie or scummy. Like at that point everyone knew that NM was gonna quick hammer, Idk whether Fuzzy was jumping on so that they could be 'seen' to be on the wagon (that was very clearly gonna go off very soon) or whether they joined it as town because they thought Herta was scum.

Idk, just something to note

agree with this thinking.

No Lynch.....
are you voting for not having a lynch today or yourself. Trying to figure if you are being cheeky or not. I think it likely the latter but sometimes i have a hard time reading sarcasm.

VOTE: Herta

was going to put him on notice that he was about to be on L-1 but i don't think it would do anything. He has done nothing to defend himself and it is unlikely he will claim. He feels very much like caught scum.

this was their vote on herta. they had gone 200 game posts absent since an unvote from Not Mafia. it does reek of scum not being around to help defend their partner and getson the wagon when they know it is going down.

[geraintm]

If I could be so egotistical, my vote was almost always on Herta. I just moved it because I didn't think a Herta launch was happening yesterday until it was.

you did indeed have earlier votes on herta (vc 8 I think). Only rockhopper voted earlier for herta, back on VC 3 and 4 but then moved off and never went back.
as I was trying to look at the votes off the wagon I wasn't too concerned with those on.

[geraintm]

out of the people not on the herta wagon, I think the only possible scum are geraint and rockhopper. Nolim is literally just acting like full on LHF atm and I am starting to just TR there.

see, I don't believe this at all

Btw my read on Golden has done a 180 at this point in time. flailing around and jumping on all sorts of wagons is a good sign + after a herta red flip, hiraki and Taylor look noticeably worse than golden.
I can TR golden for the time being.

taylor/no lynch joined the herta wagon 4th i beleive, which i just have as an odd spot for scum to join a wagon on their partner when they knew 6 was all it was going to take.
hiraki was 5th, an even weirder spot for scum to join a wagon in the context of this game and the players in it.

my gut is suggesting to me that the only scum on the wagon are likely to be in the last 2 slots. i don't think scum would have been on early. and i dont think they would have been on mid. (taylor could have styated on golden paradox which was a roughly equal sized wagon and hiraki could have switched from fuzzylogic to golden (or noraa) too instead of getting their partner killed.

but i am way more interested in those off - No lYnch, rockhopper and noraa and i think noraa is likely top of my list

[geraintm]

Does anyone have a read on geraint atm?
I've felt like this slot is towny but their reads are so very hard to agree with.

ut of the people not on the herta wagon, I think the only possible scum are geraint and rockhopper

I found this....what like 9 posts ago?

[geraintm]

Geraint not happening today? Bummer.
How about VOTE: TGP?

No one wants to lynch me, which is odd because a case could be made. Basically my post on jackson/no lynch and just search replace my name in

[geraintm]

Geraint not happening today? Bummer.
How about VOTE: TGP?

No one wants to lynch me, which is odd because a case could be made. Basically my post on jackson/no lynch and just search replace my name in

coming back to the game from overnight.
I thought my post would have got more of areaction than it did, which was zero.

You know one game I will actually read posts carefully. I thought this was going to be the game I would do that. Reread CM post. Doh. Yes it was a joke.......I was wrong.

On voting Herta...I was not paying attention to him and then he scummed all over the place. I was busy with school work and was not able to give this game a lot of attention. As I said school is winding down. Turkey vacation is here so can see I am more active. I will be more active the rest of the game.

Hikari has said I am scummy but as far as know he had not gone into details. I will reread his posts today and respond.

If TGP was scum and I was scum then I passed up a chance to lynch one scum partner to lynch another. I would gain less slack for bussing a scum TGP then jumping onto the Herta wagon. TGP is town. I basically help stop a town mislunch and help lunch scum. I dont get why I am scum for stopping a bad kill and then helping kill scum/ Maybe someone explain that to me .

CM- You still did not answer the issue of Shashin wanting to kill you yesterday and then they coming up dead last night. There might be a good reason for it but I think we need to hear it. Not sure why you are going after Noraa and not answering the problem.

I like that they explain their absence...it kinda possibly explains how scum got eliminated day 1

I would also like to have on the record it isn't just hikari who thinks you are scummy, I def have you high up my list too

quickly put people into buckets for posterity

Noraa

- off wagon + didn't like them yesterday - bad person++

No Lynch/rockhopper

- off wagon yesterday <- in small group of people I want to eliminate today

Hiraki

- early on HErta wagon <- Very townie

The golden paradox

- early on HErta wagon <- townie

Creative Mod (taylor swift)
Zurel

^^^ these were mid entry onto the wagon, I don't think these are likely Scum as could have pushed a different wagon

Not Mafia
The FuzzyLogic

^^^
late on a doomed wagon, would not put it past them to bus

[geraintm]

so in order I think it goes roughly

noraa
no lynch/rockhopper

thefuzzylogic

not mafia
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zurel
creativemod
the golden paradox
hiraki

[geraintm]

My list is very very similar, but why do you have hiraki as your top scumread?

noraa is top scumread

[geraintm]

My list is very very similar, but why do you have hiraki as your top scumread?

This post here is smart for scum and lemme say why

It's very clear that geraintm has put Hiraki as their town read and that the list geraintm posted was in order of who they wanna launch however what NL is doing is making it seem like the opposite when really they're just memeing
It could cause some people like Noraa and Fuzzy to latch on and say, oh I also don't trust Hiraki and possibly turn it into a wagon
It could cause some people to think, oh wait why is geraintm sus of the towniest player, that's kinda weird
geraintm then also has to reply to NL and it could be made to look like geraintm is just backtracking by saying their list is wrong way round

Meanwhile NL can just reply saying, oh it's just a joke if there's sus on NL for it

oh, I hadn't read this when I replied. you think he was deliberately being dim. I just assumed it was accidental dimness.

[geraintm]

Also, I find it interesting that Geraintm has NL at second top of their scum read.....but isn't voting for them?

Going to jump in quickly before bed.
If I voted for anyone it would be noraa based on my last set of reads. I wouldn't vote the 2nd unless there were time issues.why do you find it interesting I am notnvoting my second top???

[geraintm]

My list is very very similar, but why do you have hiraki as your top scumread?

This post here is smart for scum and lemme say why

It's very clear that geraintm has put Hiraki as their town read and that the list geraintm posted was in order of who they wanna launch however what NL is doing is making it seem like the opposite when really they're just memeing
It could cause some people like Noraa and Fuzzy to latch on and say, oh I also don't trust Hiraki and possibly turn it into a wagon
It could cause some people to think, oh wait why is geraintm sus of the towniest player, that's kinda weird
geraintm then also has to reply to NL and it could be made to look like geraintm is just backtracking by saying their list is wrong way round

Meanwhile NL can just reply saying, oh it's just a joke if there's sus on NL for it

I don't know why, but this posts feels like flattery to me.
Thank you!

I dislike intensely that you didn't explain how you 'misunderstood' my list so badly. Please do

[geraintm]

VOTE: cmod

If someone hammers i will be disappointed. There is still jnfo to extract from today. This elimination is going way too quickly

[geraintm]

Toog - agreed- From my personal experience scum usually mid it on scum wagons. 2 on 1 off or 1 on 2 off does not usually play a role in this principle. Of course, it is just a general principle, and they're always exception

Class time.....will return later today

looking at the timing of the votes though on this wagon, the mid wagon ones didn't feel scummy to me. they came at a point when there were other viable wagons going around, and it was the mid wagon votes that basically pushed this wagon down the hill past the point of no return. if they had been mid wagon votes and then jumped off, that is a different matter.

[geraintm]

Can I point out, all of Noraa's scum reads are people on the Herta wagon and all her town reads are people off the wagon...like she has a scumlean on someone off wagon but her strongest reads are those on the wagon

So in Noraa's world, all scum bussed yesterday when they could've easily jumped on the TGP wagon and gotten away with it

agree with this reading how yesterday's elimination went down. Zurel could have gone to golden paradox, taylorswift/creative mod could have stuck on golden paradox.
then it was hiraki coming back to the wagon and after that we get the fuzzylogic/not mafia piling onto a doomed wagon.
it is the last two which look much worse than the zurel/(taylor) creative mod ones to me.

[geraintm]

I tried to vote geraint.
Didn't work.

I don't get your push on me. there is no reasoning to it. if it is because of our voting history, then we both shifted to noraa at the same time from my records. your wanting to get rid of me is just...odd to me. I cannot push back on it as there is nothing there. like your entire case is

VOTE: geraintm

[geraintm]

I tried to vote geraint.
Didn't work.

I don't get your push on me. there is no reasoning to it. if it is because of our voting history, then we both shifted to noraa at the same time from my records. your wanting to get rid of me is just...odd to me. I cannot push back on it as there is nothing there. like your entire case is

VOTE: geraintm

oh, and the whole weirdness about post 1022 which I still don't understand. you have just battered it away and think I am going to let it lie

[geraintm]

Not voted the goon.

oh, I found a reason they want to eliminate me.
they do realise their reasoning applies equally to themselves. we both ended up on the exact same person at the end of the day

[geraintm]

to be clear to everyone btw, I am 99% more likely to vote for No_lynch today over creativemod

[geraintm]

VOTE: No łynch I mean

you already were

[geraintm]

I don't think NM and CM are scum together too

not sure why

fuzzylogic and not_mafia cannot both be scum, that isn't possible.

[geraintm]

well...

well indeed.

[geraintm]

thanks for the worst for doing the day btw

[geraintm]

btw, the well indeed is just be being half incredulous that there was no kill. I suspect cleverer, more informed players than me can get this game solved soon

[geraintm]

I also feel embarrassed how little I have contributed to town's success this game

[geraintm]

VOTE: Rockhopper

Let's go here today

Rockhopper is town.
Geraint doesn't have a gun.

that's nice to confirm. did you check me night 1 then?

[geraintm]

I know not mafia is eliminating themselves from the small pool left, but I am not

Not mafia and Fuzzy were the effective hammers on day 1.

I am not voting for golden paradox for many many days.

Hiraki/Toogeloo are to me much less likely to be mafia than Fuzzy/not mafia from their position on the day 1 wagon

hiraki was off wagon day 2, Fuzzy, not mafia and toogeloo were all on.
fuzy was I incredibly early and never moved anywhere else. either low activity scum who gto caught twice in two days not doing more to avoid getting their partner eliminated.

or I want to kill Not_mafia.

[geraintm]

claims so far. want to keep them in a post so I know

not mafia - novice jailkeeper
targeted noraa n2

No_lynch - Jack of all trades
copped Rockhopper - town result
gunsmithed geraintm - no gun

noraa - some kind of cop
cleared No _lynch

any others?

fuzzy lofic - town novice watcher
watched noraa

[geraintm]

I am 95% sure that we have to eliminate either fuzzy logic or not mafia today as their claims are contradictory.

no idea what the 3rd scum role is, town has a ton of roles from what I can see

doctor
a cop
a JOAT
a watcher or jailkeeper

[geraintm]

I am the town Notice watcher
I watched Noraa last night ........ either no one visited or I was role blocked.Given the set up roleblock seems odd but i guess its possible

No, I'm a novice jailkeeper and I was on noraa last night

Which she could confirm without you revealing.

Why does this post not contain a fuzzy vote?

Waiting for Noraa to claim night action.

agree. i'm leaning fuzzy but didn't like Not_mafia quick attempt to bounce a vote and hoping noraa can help solve it. as they should be able to.

[geraintm]

scum I am thinking wouldn't claim jailkeeper because they know noraa will be able to confirm if their night action was scopped

(I have got that right, haven't I?)

[geraintm]

I also like that no_lynch thought the mafia team were playing so badly that the one possible explanation is that I was the 3rd member

[geraintm]

we aren't. I am waiting for noraa to enter the thread before we solve this game.

[geraintm]

I am def not aecetic

[geraintm]

I cannot even spell it

[geraintm]

Hes VT.
I am too

[geraintm]

I am giving the claims time to roll out, but I will be voting fuzzy

[geraintm]

Whats a mafia doc? A mafia who kills like Harold Shipman or something?

[geraintm]

So....yay!
I was the literal Indian Jones of the game

[geraintm]

What was your role then?

[geraintm]

Taylor was a new account of a banned player.