The Council: Student Council Edition! | Day One Council

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Proposals

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Noraa: Noraa, infinity, MURDERCAT
Infinity: MURDERCAT
MURDERCAT: Noraa, infinity, MURDERCAT
Koba (purple): Flea, MURDERCAT, Infinity
Koba (purple): Uncrowned, MURDERCAT, Infinity
Koba (purple): Uncrowned, MURDERCAT, koba(purple)
Flea: Flea
Tracy: tracy
MURDERCAT: Infinity
Tracy: tracy, MURDERCAT, Infinity
MURDERCAT: Infinity, koba(purple), Noraa
Outworld: Outworld, gamma, koba(purple)
MURDERCAT: Infinity, MURDERCAT, koba(purple)
Noraa: Infinity
Gamma: Gamma, Flea, tracy
Koba (purple): Koba(purple), uncrowned, tracy
MURDERCAT: Infinity, MURDERCAT, Noraa
Infinity: Uncrowned, Noraa
Noraa: Noraa, Infinity, Purple
Infinity:, Purple, Infinity, Gamma
Flea: MURDERCAT, Gamma, Infinity
Purple: Infinity, Purple
Purple: Infinity, Purple, Gamma
tracy: MURDERCAT
outworld: MURDERCAT, uncrowned, purple
Infinity: Infinity, Gamma, uncrowned
Noraa: Noraa, Purple, MURDERCAT
Noraa: Noraa
Purple: Infinity, MURDERCAT, Gamma
Infinity: Infinity, Gamma, MURDERCAT
MURDERCAT: MURDERCAT, Infinity, Gamma
Gamma: Gamma, Infinity, MURDERCAT

Assumption: Two people who never voted each other for council probably aren't the scum team. Dumb assumption but I want to see where the associations are.

Possible Scum Pairs

{Flea the Magician, Infinity}
{Flea the Magician, Gamma}
{Infinity, tracy}
{Infinity, Noraa}
{Infinity, Uncrowned}
{Infinity, Purple}
{Infinity, Gamma}
{tracy, Purple}
{tracy, Gamma}
{Noraa, Purple}
{Uncrowned, Purple}
{Purple, Gamma}

The track is useless if there is scum in the hood so we should assume that we are clear for that.

Excluding hood members

{tracy, Purple}
{Noraa, Purple}
{Uncrowned, Purple}

I think purple is a decent track target actually. On N1 with two scum I think we want to go for a track on a relatively well TR'd player. Two reasons, the first is that we already have a low chance of hitting the track, so we might as well go for the hero play. The second reason is that later on if a scummier player flips scum the track looks more like an innocent, whereas for a scummy player there is always the argument that they wouldn't have done the kill. E.g. if the scum team is flea/? and we track purple we can probably believe purple is town whereas if the team is purple/? and we track flea we would probably not assume that Flea would have made the N1 kill. Tin foil says that team could be {purple tracy} and purple wanted to direct the track to tracy. Noraa might be another good option.

The doc is useful even if there is scum in the hood because, while we can't prevent a kill if there is scum in the hood, we prevent one of us from being the target. That being said, if we can prevent a kill all 3 of us are then clear barring a no kill gambit which is obviously way better. So let's go for it. I'm not sure the best way to target this, it's probably a lot of wifom. My gut says someone like uncrowned could be good, a kinda UTR who wouldn't be an obvious doc target. But we can also just be sure to keep a lock town alive if we don't want to go for a hero play or if we think there is scum in the hood.

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Reread stuff coming later I'm part way through

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You will all receive the results of the track the following morning.

I think we should wait a (irl) day or two to share results just to let the beginning of the day play out without scum knowing what we've got

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I wanna next-level-wine alisae and track tracy.

Lots of wine. But what if purple said that and tracy isn't the partner?

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Oh also, I think it might be good to doc shot based off a team. So it looks like we converged onto {purple tracy} (but I am still rereading), we should probably think "who would this scum team kill?"

If we hit it, cool, but there is also a chance that another team has the same reasoning or we just get lucky.

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Also like why do people only start town posting once they are the inevitable wagon

If everyone just town posted we could find the scum easy

So annoying we actually have to think about stuff

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Also I'll just say this even if they are mad at me post game, I am ok with Noraa and purple getting shot, I don't think I will ever view those slots as 100% clear so I'm happy for NKs to clear them

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Also I don't care if any of us get shot, I don't think any one of is critical in driving the town forward right now and I think the kill is probably more likely to go to a UTR outside the hood than in it (unless there is scum in the hood but /shrug)

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I think it's really weird if purple said that about tracy if purple is town, I was already hinting I might do that it was way too explicit. Makes it looks like wine. But idk it could have just been an off the cuff thing. and I'm reading way too much into it.

The issue with tracking purple is that purple knows they are heavily SR'd by you and so you might be pushing hard to track there.

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Yeah ok so then who is the partner?
If it's tracy then which one will kill?
If not tracy, who else makes sense?

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ok I'm tentatively down with this

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@Kanna

Is this like night actions where we can change our minds or does voting lock in options if they are hammered?

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Thanks Kanna!

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There's a world where I get shot if I was the only person sussing tracy in thread, but I don't really care if I get shot

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Oh no 4 hours left I did too many station games instead of this

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Marathon*

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I will hammer that later but still have more to post

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Be honest infinity are you worried I'm scum and will kill you if the doc is not on you?
Because I really think there is a decent shot uncrowned is the target today

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Spoiler: outworld

gamma's take on me is cold but I'll wait until he does or doesn't go charging off in some rando's direction to decide what i feel on him

i've got bad vibes from tracy, something about lots of mech talk pings me in a very minor way but it's better than nothing

VOTE: tracy flick

that said the mission leader plan sounds fine since i think it'll help us solve said leader.

This is very interesting compared to koba

noraa is town here and i'm upset about that

Good to remember this

my brain is telling me to sheep koba here but my gut gives me bad vibes for reasons that will probably be found invalid but hey

probably myself, MC, uncrowned. if I couldn't self-vote i'd pick noraa. i'd rather have safe options i'm mostly sure are town at the current moment. lim option is probably Infinity because my gut feels the worst about him and flipping one of the {Infinity, Gamma, Koba slot} three-way that happened earlier will probably help me with the remaining two guys.

replaces messed with my flow a little bit so i've had to reread the thread

where I'm at is I don't like Flea because 804 seemed like she was shading noraa while tiptoeing around actually calling her scum

a lot of this iso is actually random shade at others now that i look at it

purple taking control of the game, generally spurring engagement, feels obvtown

uncrowned just, feels town man. his posts feel like they come from a place of honesty

MC also feels like he's coming into a leadership position, also feels obvtown

noraa/noraa hydra is town, unfortunately

infinity still gives me weird vibes that i can't put my finger on, it's the same with gamma

so yeah, i'm gonna

VOTE: Flea
HEAL: Murdercat
HEAL: Uncrowned
HEAL: Purple Heart

We are gunna look really dumb if it's not purple but it makes the most sense considering we are all "town"

Flip flea at least sometime this game

look at Infinity closely, his posts don't feel genuine and his trajectory on voting me is non-existant

noraa will likely be annoying but she's town so don't lim her

flip at least one of the infinity, gamma, koba slot three-way because I'm 99% sure there was at least one scum there. the way they'd do a bunch of towny posts and then they'd randomly start shading each other. obviously i prefer infinity

don't have this be a repeat of 2170

Spoiler: koba/purple

In post 133, tracy flick wrote:

In post 109, Flea The Magician wrote:
Nah this is like 3 of 3 I'm in with Taylor, this is bog standard taylor at this point Pretty sure MCs response is standard too ^_^

by nai i meant not alignment indicative; as in, i have seen taylor swift troll in a similar manner as both alignments.

This is towny. When i see people like take a behavior of someone else and label it NAI its like usually town motivated.

HEAL: dkkoba
HEAL: uncrowned
HEAL: tracy
Where im at with current gamestate rn
If couldn't nom self would do outworld

This trajectory on tracy is really suss if koba is scum

im looking at an infinity gamma team rn

basically im blacklisting them from any council proposals

Whoops. Is it weird that purple took such a completely different stance?

im sitting on my solve of gamma/infinity bye

I highly highly doubt it is both of you so this is interesting to me

lets get this out there:
my council list

100% want them on council
me - towniest mf in the school. you can check my report card
uncrowned - they just town man. idk what to say. cant say anything really pinged me from that slot.
tracy - doesnt seem like a strong scumhunty sort at all. was sus at the start from their early mechposting but the way they reacted to the pressure was town.

would be ok settling with a council with them on it
outworld: fresh off a game where i was scum and they were town i can see the same things that seem scummy but are actually indicative of them being town here.


am hesitant to settle with a council with them on it
flea - at first sorta felt like they were towny but then realized it was more due to lack of bad posts i was feeling that vibe. most volatile slot here but definitely would not just throw them onto council at the time of this list
murdercat - i get kinda towny vibes but maybe its just that their playstyle is similar to mine and i cannot help but townread it. i also have that natural bias towards people who are able to actually read me correctly. but generally feels like they're approaching in good faith. still feel suspicious bc feels like they could be manipulating gamestate.
swizzle pop - nora


never put on council ever
infinity - mostly explained in my push
gamma - same as above.

Ah what is this tracy read still doing here

Okay, so I have no idea when the fuck I'm sleeping but I don't see any signs of me going to sleep anytime soon so I decided to read up and these are the conclusions I came to.

Flea the Magician - I read 19 pages and I haven't found a contribution that I really thought was worthwhile.
MURDERCAT - I think when we get more flips (especially on slots like infinity and gamma), this slot will just be super readable.
Infinity 324 - I could actually see myself making an arguement for this slot being any alignment so I might take another look after I sleep. I mostly do agree with koba's comments on the slot when I read them but I can see a town!infinity sorting the slot and coming to the conclusions that they came to. I honestly just need to re-read the slot with a clear mind honestly. That or just sheep whatever conculsion Taly comes to so I don't have to
tracy flick - Their interactions with people seem really natural and to me it feels as if they're really trying to figure out the motivations of the other players.
Noraa - Feels more townie then scummy tbh
Uncrowned - I actually really want to townread this slot but I have this feeling that they're scum who knows that koba had their head completely up their ass and is playing them like its his win condition. 420 gives me these feelings especially.
Gamma Emerald - I actually really think his content is fine. I genuinely just don't see the problem with it.
OutWorldER - I feel like every post they wrote just feels super weird. Would not be surprised if they're scum not playing because they don't feel obligated to play.


tracy flick, norra, gamma
Murdercat
Infinity, Uncrowned, OutWorld, Flea

And here too?? Getting lazy gunna just look for tracy stuff

As for Tracy, I liked 74 because giving meta without much input is the only non-manipulative or biased way to give the opportunity for reading someone in depth. Note to look into that more. I don't think she's given much context to her reads or ideas beyond the mechanical discussion, so I want to know your idea here as well Flea.

Honestly Tracy came off to me as someone who was just doing their own thing

This was the original post that pinged me, this subtle defense

tracy i'm currently defending

I'm not really gunna make anything of this but this terminology is really weird

Track Tracy

Wait this is actually a scum claim in context right? Like purple has never sussed tracy??

Spoiler: tracy

tracy actually is all mech with no solving

i kinda think HEAL: murdercat should be our class president. how likely does anyone think it is that the mafia would be trying to get both players onto the council here?

TRs on me from people who don't know me well still suss me out

1018 is this an attempt to get purple in the council?

i am okay with this.

VOTE: outworlder

This didn't come completely out of nowhere but it didn't feel like there was a lot of weight behind it

I'm conf biased as hell because I'm treating you both as town but that track tracy post after no suss really weirds me out.

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The council meeting ends in (expired on 2020-11-26 15:09:57)

Gamma can I get thoughts from you?

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Aren't you the main person sussing purple though
I feel like you are the obv target
All wine though so up to you, it's your life

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So much wine for both doc and track

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Let's track tracy because I think that we be the harder elim of the two and a guilty there helps.
Let's give at least 24 hours regardless of our results, I want a full readlist out of purple and tracy (I'll disguise it a bit)

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Also I think tracy is more likely to make the kill because purple at least gets some town cred out of it

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Ok I'm gunna give gamma a bit more time to weigh in but I'll just hammer this in like 20 minutes if not

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Isis is gunna feel prettyyyyy silly when we block a kill and get a track guilty on N1

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She said the game was scum sided in the review thread
Or at least that's how I interpreted her post

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Nah I was lazy all game

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Ftr I don’t think you really ever make 1575 as scum. I believe your scum game is good but not that good lol

Ah but that's one of the things about playing town is you get to see what gets you TRs
My scum game just got a bit better

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Ok let's roll

track tracy

doc Infinity

final answer

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Ha maybe you can

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Gamma I still want your thoughts if you are on