(1) it's not about if it's theoretically possible, it's about what's actually likely. it is not likely that I make over 400 posts engaging with multiple players that I'm town if the plan is just to bus me. I wish I cared enough to do that as scum, or had the WIM available, but I do not. I would put in enough effort to not make it look like an obvious bus, which would have been, idk, at least 200 posts ago if not more
(2) ...so what? if my team just buses me today peta remains available as a misguiilo tomorrow? it's my active contesting of him and play against him here that spews him town in worlds where I'm scum
(3) again, you're dealing in possibilities rather than what is likely. you are attempting to create a FALSE narrative that just because scum CAN make a WIFOM play, they're actually likely to. your phrasing betrays you; "I've seen people make unintuitive votes..." <- the very way you talk about it, it's obvious you know it's not the standard approach or common. that being the case, it's on you to explain why me as the scumteam leader (presumably) chooses a WIFOM play in this game. also, switching back later is MUCH harder unless the peta guillotine is actually close. it's never been that close, I've always looked bad. in the case they switch back to bus, the end of the wagon is nearly always where people look first
(4) I'm not discounting the fact it's not a foregone conclusion, I'm saying it's about risk management. if you think there's a decent chance you might go down, it's much better to have that event happen within your control. check my last scumgame -- kerset was going to be bussed, but not on D1 because we wouldn't get cred. so he fake claimed his way out, we executed elsewhere, then
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lead the wagon on him the next day for the extra cred. the way it happened got me loads of cred -- if town had killed him on their own, I wouldn't have gotten any and townies would have, thereby making them harder to execute. scum is all about control, I know this, you know this, and we each know the other knows this. given that, it's much better to bus me for cred than to try and keep me alive, I'm too tainted
(4b) I'm saying if my partners were on me, they'd be hard pushing not sitting idly by. don't dodge the way of the question by making some generalist comment on pre-flip associatives. we are in a particular game. give me reasons related to this particular game. who, in the world where I'm scum, am I scum with? if you cannot come up with an answer, I must have no partners, therefore I must be town. if you continue to vote for me under that knowledge, you're scum claiming, it's simple as
(5) right, but again -- he's only in the position of being a mix-exe only possible today BECAUSE of my actions in a world where I'm scum. the dichotomy didn't exist before, if my team had just bussed, he would still be viable tomorrow for them
