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Ego post

Hey everyone!!! Idk what my previous slot has claimed but just to make everything simple:
I'm cop, I checked CreativeMod1 Last night and got that they're Town, if I die in the night then you know to trust it

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VOTE: unvote

Idk if I'm voting anyone yet but just in case, I'm gonna unvote until I've had a chance to look through things

In the mean time, can everyone give me a quick little run down of who looks townie/scummie and why? given that you've voted off a scum, I'd assume there's lots of reads based on that vote

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Hello you fabulous people.

First up, me claiming cop and saying I copped myself is clearly a joke and a bit of a test to see who'd use it as a reason for sus, looking at Fuzzy mainly here but also TGP

I find it interesting that Nora votes for me and then calls someone else scummy for...voting for me? what? xD

So I'm not so good with doing a full read through as that's a lot of reading so I hopped into some ISO's

My first thought was to look at Shoshin and see if there's maybe more as to why scum killed them during the night...and then I realised that looks bad for me cos I was on Shoshin's sus list xD But I notice that Shoshin was a big driving force on the Herta vote yesterday and so scum probably killed Shoshin because they're by far the most towniest player.

I'm now reading through the last 10 pages (from when Shoshin made a massive wall of text on why Herta should be the Wagon), I find it real funny that Nora who wasn't on the Herta wagon and in fact pushed against it are now pushing on one of the earlier votes on that wagon xD Like holy wow how much Nora was trying to save Herta in those 10 pages is hilarious, especially right at the end.
I think it's clear that Herta wasn't the most active of players and I think Nora was trying to push Herta into claiming a pr to save themselves but didn't get a chance to do so because Herta wasn't around

Onto todays posts:
I find it interesting that the start of the day a load of people sus NL (mainly for actions of their previous slot) and again Noraa is pushing hard against it

VOTE: Noraa
Reason: Obvious scum is obvious

Also after having looked through half the game, i'm less sus of TGP for what I said at the start of this post as they were the big counter nom to the scum yesterday, but I'm keeping my eyes on Fuzzy

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Oh just remembered that there was another thing about Fuzzy.

When Fuzzy jumped onto the Herta wagon was really weird and I can't quite tell whether it's townie or scummy. Like at that point everyone knew that NM was gonna quick hammer, Idk whether Fuzzy was jumping on so that they could be 'seen' to be on the wagon (that was very clearly gonna go off very soon) or whether they joined it as town because they thought Herta was scum.

Idk, just something to note

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Also, sorry it took a bit of time for me to have a read through, I forgot just how overwhelming it is to read through so many posts xD

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Whilst I think I have a solid case for Noraa, I think limming No Lynch will provide some good info about Noraa, like if No Lynch flips scum then 100% we lim Noraa tomorrow so I'd be happy to hop onto the NL wagon and see what that produces

I'm 50/50 on Fuzzy, it's something I wanna keep my eye on but idk if I'd look at limming there today, I think there's some better options today, mainly looking at those who weren't on the Hetra wagon

VOTE: No łynch

Pre-edit: Hahahahhaahaha, Nora saying that Hiraki looks worse than Golden xD I'm sorry but Hiraki is right at the top of my town read list, there's no way scum busses and holds a bus like that, like that's some pretty ballsy scum play if it is a bus

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Noraa...are you and I reading the same thing in Shoshin's ISO, like I wanna check that we're reading the same ISO cos...idk if we are because to me, everything from 654 onwards is Shoshin leading the town towards a Hetra lim. It'd take a lot for anyone to believe that Shoshin is scum after that lim.
That's why I think Shoshin was killed at night.

Noraa trying to say otherwise is Noraa trying to control the towns vote onto her own reads.

Notice how Geraint disagrees with her so Noraa is putting Geraint's townieness into question

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is this just the solve? {herta, cm1, no łynch}?

Yes because straight after losing 1 partner we're gonna go straight in for the bus strat and harm each other more xD

Im already voting there but for emphasis,
VOTE: Cmod
FOR THE WIN!

yeah okay this is a blatantly towny post

Just because another player has similar views to you, doesn't make them town, especially when you're own views are wrong

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I feel like I kinda did cover Shoshin dying multiple times.
After Herta's scum flip, Shoshin was 100% the most townie player in the game, without any proper info there's no way anyone would be limming Shoshin any time soon. Scum killed it to take away a town slot.

Also Shoshin had a bit of a list of scum reads and actually if you reread, Shoshin had actually changed their reads on me later on in the game, so if anything if I was scum I'd want to keep them alive as they clearly was having more sus for some other players

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CM- You still did not answer the issue of Shashin wanting to kill you yesterday and then they coming up dead last night. There might be a good reason for it but I think we need to hear it. Not sure why you are going after Noraa and not answering the problem.

CM1 literally joined the game after Shoshin died.

Brb, lemme just get Taylor unbanned so they can answer for it

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My list is very very similar, but why do you have hiraki as your top scumread?

This post here is smart for scum and lemme say why

It's very clear that geraintm has put Hiraki as their town read and that the list geraintm posted was in order of who they wanna launch however what NL is doing is making it seem like the opposite when really they're just memeing
It could cause some people like Noraa and Fuzzy to latch on and say, oh I also don't trust Hiraki and possibly turn it into a wagon
It could cause some people to think, oh wait why is geraintm sus of the towniest player, that's kinda weird
geraintm then also has to reply to NL and it could be made to look like geraintm is just backtracking by saying their list is wrong way round

Meanwhile NL can just reply saying, oh it's just a joke if there's sus on NL for it

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If you had only posted the list, then yes I could see this as being accidental dimness but the fact that you gave a whole thing of reasoning, I'm sorry there's no way in which I believe that someone missed that...especially because it was the post before it

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There's currently 3 votes on me, it takes 6 votes to lim someone...as much as I'd love for you to enjoy your little fishing trip Noraa, I'll hold off a claim for now

The other thing is....we got a scum yesterday, I highly highly highly doubt that all the scum were on that wagon, so therefore we've 100% got a scum off-wagon, at least for today, until there's any other info that's where I'm focusing my attention

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Can I point out, all of Noraa's scum reads are people on the Herta wagon and all her town reads are people off the wagon...like she has a scumlean on someone off wagon but her strongest reads are those on the wagon

So in Noraa's world, all scum bussed yesterday when they could've easily jumped on the TGP wagon and gotten away with it

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Toog, as for your reasons to scum read me
1) We both voted on Herta at pretty much the exact same time, like my post was the one right after yours, it was also my first post since Shoshins wall of text and thus I'm assuming that Taylor was swayed by it and voted based on that
2) I feel like I've said this so many times but go read the ending of Shoshins ISO, their reads on my slot was changing

hmm i could see how im scum with gerain, but i dont see how i could be scum with herta here.

Prior to your vote on Herta, I thought you & Herta were the most likely team. I agree that you're less scummy based on continued engagement with the game & the way your reads have evolved. I also liked your catch on Golden earlier. I just can't rule you out yet.

This to me sounds like a scum-lean read, a scum-lean read is not scary at all, especially if it's a read that used to be a scum read, it shows that Shoshin is moving me towards town.

What's more, contrary to Noraa's belief, Shoshin was by far the towniest player in the game, Shoshin was killed because Shoshin will never be scum read by anyone

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Toog, as for your reasons to scum read me
1) We both voted on Herta at pretty much the exact same time, like my post was the one right after yours, it was also my first post since Shoshins wall of text and thus I'm assuming that Taylor was swayed by it and voted based on that
2) I feel like I've said this so many times but go read the ending of Shoshins ISO, their reads on my slot was changing

hmm i could see how im scum with gerain, but i dont see how i could be scum with herta here.

Prior to your vote on Herta, I thought you & Herta were the most likely team. I agree that you're less scummy based on continued engagement with the game & the way your reads have evolved. I also liked your catch on Golden earlier. I just can't rule you out yet.

This to me sounds like a scum-lean read, a scum-lean read is not scary at all, especially if it's a read that used to be a scum read, it shows that Shoshin is moving me towards town.

What's more, contrary to Noraa's belief, Shoshin was by far the towniest player in the game, Shoshin was killed because Shoshin will never be scum read by anyone

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Well of course you do, can I ask is there anyone who has read through NL's ISO who seriously town reads them? like 85% of what they say is trolling

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Also, absolutely loving the quick wagon here on someone who was fairly early in the Herta vote

Why are we not looking at those who a) didn't vote for Herta and b) actively tried to push away from Herta

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Also, why is it so hard to lim an obvious maf in NL?

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Also, I find it interesting that Geraintm has NL at second top of their scum read.....but isn't voting for them?

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Fair enough

Was just thinking that if you were a team then maybe you'd say you scum read them but not actually vote for them (especially as they have so many votes on them already)

I could also be swayed towards Noraa but I think the general consensus is NL, personally I have Noraa high on my scum reads, but I have seen Town!Noraa before and I know how tunnelly they get as Town so that at least lines up

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Scum are scared that I'm pushing towards those who weren't on the Herta lim and that's why they wanna try for a quick lim today on someone who was on the Herta wagon

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I'm not claiming because nobody has declared intent to hammer me and given N_M's very clearly on the NL wagon, if N_M (or anyone else for that matter) was to hammer me then it'd be scummy as fuck...also we've still got plenty of time, so there's no need to rush things atm anyway

How is that me saying, I forgot to say...all I was saying is that I've seen you tunnely as town, I've only seen you in 1 game.

Also even as town, your reads are so terrible, look at how hard you tunneled TGP yesterday and now today you're 100% sure that they're good.

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I will only accept a lim that didn't vote on Herta today imo, anyone wanting to lim someone who was on the wagon is misguided or scum

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Lol anyone else remember yesterday when Noraa was saying the same about TGP?

This'll be entertaining

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Official vote count 2.6

With 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to launch.

No łynch

(4): Not_Mafia, Rockhopper, Hiraki, CreativeMod1

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(5): TheFuzzylogic99, Noraa, TheGoldenParadox, Toogeloo, No łynch

Not Voting

(1): geraintm

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-28 03:32:59).

Mod notes:

Please type "No łynch" with the special character when voting to differentiate between No Launch.

Prodding Rockhopper.

joined mod iso

It's still the same as last page

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Wtf is up with a quick hammer

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I don't think I believe this claim tbh but whatever

VOTE: CMod1

Seriously the worst player!

Lolhammering without giving any intent, without asking if anyone has any info to counter Noraa and whilst also saying you don't trust Noraa's claim

Also, Noraa's claim has literally nothing to do with me, it's all to do with NL

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Why is that the limpool??? Yes great idea, lets lim someone who was early on the Herta wagon, that's a great idea

Great job town!!! You're amazing at this!

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Meanwhile just letting those who actively pushed against the Herta wagon get away with things

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Nope, you're now 2 for 2 on tunnelling hard on towns

And well done, you have just outed yourself as a cop with a dead doctor

Noraa, you're amazing at this game!

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That is a very good point! N_M is someone you should've checked

Welp, my scum reads are....

Town do the complete opposite of what Noraa says

N_M is probably scum here with quick hammers like that, even if they're not scum, they're dangerous for town to keep alive
Look at my wagon and compare it to Herta's wagon!

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Well Noraa, given that your reads have been wrong twice in a row...I think you shouldn't trust your reads

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Nope, you're voting Not_Maf tomorrow!

Given the clear on NL, Not_Maf probably quick hammered because the wagon could've easily shifted to them instead

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Oof, yeah this was a rough slot to sub into but it was fun and I think I did well for the cards I was dealt haha

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Taylor was a new account of a banned player.

Yeah, I was kinda happen when I found this out, I was worried that I was replacing into a slot who replaced out due to there being too much sus on them and didn't wanna keep trying

Btw, I'm good for the scum thread to be opened