Among Us Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Alisae]

So I am going to hate doing tasks

[Alisae]

real talk tho
lets talk about mechancis
I have no idea how to play this setup and I don't want to turn my brain on to think about it so...

[Alisae]

So I saw Cakez come out of the ground and I don't exactly know what this means?

[Alisae]

could be anything tbh

[Alisae]

RQS BOYZ HERE WE GO

[Alisae]

I wanna do some RQS as well.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=85039
Read the thread and reply to this post on what you think your colors would be.

I also wanna plug my thread KEKW

[Alisae]

1) Gimmie a cop role
2) Miselim Gold, shoot Titus, Bus Reck.
3) I'm good at using actions.
4) ooooooh this is a tough one. I think I'd pick between either Jolly Ranchers, Tootsie rolls, and just a good ol lolipop
5) As scum I'm red/black. I can get a lot done and dirty my hands really well, but its quite obvious what I'm doing and I also just need teammates to support me. As town I'm blue/black and while I believe that I will be able to solve the game eventually, it takes a long time for me to get there and there will likely be a lot of miselims in the process. Also my town early game sucks where as my scum late game sucks.

[Alisae]

ok but RQS is fun

[Alisae]

MechPooky:

10 rooms

4->3->3

Nelim to win? More town people = faster task completion

do we claim where we need to go for tasks?

[Alisae]

okay this is actually a stupid question, but if we wanted to win, do we actually eliminate like ever?

[Alisae]

Scum probably has to have some reason for us to just not do that

[Alisae]

Scum probably has to have some reason for us to just not do that

better force them to use their hidden power early than late no?

yeah I agree

[Alisae]

I have 2

[Alisae]

actually we could probably do this in a more organized matter.
Should we also claim what the tasks are

[Alisae]

lets figure out what information needs to be claimed and then get things going on getting that information claimed

[Alisae]

I'll get a table going

[Alisae]

Tasks
Player	Number of Tasks	Location 1	Location 2
MURDERCAT	2	Location 1	Location 2
Blitzo	2	Location 1	Location 2
xRECKONERx	2	Location 1	Location 2
TheGoldenParadox	2	Location 1	Location 2
Flea The Magician	2	Location 1	Location 2
Haschel Cedricson	2	Location 1	Location 2
DrippingGoofball	2	Location 1	Location 2
Battle Mage	2	Location 1	Location 2
Gamma Emerald	2	Location 1	Location 2
Alisae	2	Electrical	Admin
Titus	2	Location 1	Location 2
OutWorldER	2	Location 1	Location 2
Taly	2	Location 1	Location 2
SirCakez	2	Location 1	Location 2
Akarin	2	Location 1	Location 2
PookyTheMagicalBear	2	Location 1	Location 2
Bell	2	Location 1	Location 2

[Alisae]

okay this works.
I'm going to fill it in.

BTW I said everyone has 2 tasks as a placeholder but I'll change that if people have more.

[Alisae]

yo Alisae - let's go electrical first!

Sure

[Alisae]

i'm not claiming jack shit hell fucking no

y'all have fun w/out me

this player vented

[Alisae]

they were like
nope
vented out of teh gamethread

[Alisae]

Tasks
Player	Number of Tasks	Location 1	Location 2
MURDERCAT	2	Reactor	Comms
Blitzo	2	Location 1	Location 2
xRECKONERx	2	Location 1	Location 2
TheGoldenParadox	2	Location 1	Location 2
Flea The Magician	2	Location 1	Location 2
Haschel Cedricson	2	Location 1	Location 2
DrippingGoofball	2	Location 1	Location 2
Battle Mage	1	Electrical	N/A
Gamma Emerald	2	Location 1	Location 2
Alisae	2	Electrical	Admin
Titus	2	Location 1	Location 2
OutWorldER	2	Location 1	Location 2
Taly	2	Location 1	Location 2
SirCakez	2	Location 1	Location 2
Akarin	2	Location 1	Location 2
PookyTheMagicalBear	2	Navigation	Cafeteria
Bell	2	Location 1	Location 2

If I'm missing anything @ me

[Alisae]

Lol

I think we are giving scum a lot of info here, but whatevs

yes

this is why it's very stupid what we're doing

but alisae is playing that magic pipe and everyone's marching along following alisae right over the cliff's edge

whats your opinion on not eliminating anyone

[Alisae]

can someone please update the list with my stuff. it's some crazy trickery...

I thought I did.
Am I missing something?

[Alisae]

tbh if Battle Mage kills me in electrical
I'm happy with that

[Alisae]

Actually looking and thinking it over this plan is bad and doomed to failure.

Pooky Sus

how does it end in failure?

[Alisae]

oh, not eliminating anyone to give us time to do tasks is pretty smart actually? i think?

yep!

[Alisae]

I think Cakez's approach to mechanics and the massclaim is likely to come from town me thinks

[Alisae]

I could be wrong but I think being okay with a no lynch but also being not okay with claiming actions feels like a weird combination to come from scum

[Alisae]

I also really like this discussion and want to keep having it because I think its going to provide plenty of information.
I think its going to be really interesting to see what alignments wants to do what.

[Alisae]

but what i WANT explained 100% right now is, why no lim? or would this explanation defeat the point?

win through task wincon not lynches

[Alisae]

im gonna take a walk
when I get back I'll update the table but I'll still be on my phone posting

[Alisae]

I also think I'm just going to give Akarin a day pass for responding to my RQS since they're the only one who did KEKW

@Akarin

I think if you still have a viewpoint on mechanics that you feel like should be posted, you should post it. You shouldn't let the idea that people might not listen to you stop you from getting your opinion out there.

[Alisae]

I need to be in the same room 2 nights in a row.

This might throw a wrench in the claim plan.

Battle Mage can go to the room ur in then.

[Alisae]

Battle Mage has 1 task so it should be fine.
I can also go w/ Battle Mage so you feel safer, I have a 2nd task but I don't mind it if it would make you feel safer

[Alisae]

Or what we could do is if there are sabotages that force individuals to go to seperate rooms, we can have townies on sabatoge duty.

I'm sure we can think of somethin

[Alisae]

okay this is actually a stupid question, but if we wanted to win, do we actually eliminate like ever?

i actually thought about this last night tbh

if we lim people now, we ensure that we will never complete tasks?

but then im wondering, how is reaching this wincon possible without town dying anyway?

real important, want to make sure this post is not skimmed over.

also, people can sabotage?

oof im missing details with the setup

any sabotage mechanics aren't public knowledge we're just guessing there might be one

[Alisae]

it doesnt matter if someone needs to be in a room two nights in a row. the point of leashing the entire PL is that nobody can wander off and kill you when u r in that room alone on night 2

I think if we're mostly no lynching, it might not be terrible to allow an opportunity for scum to kill an extra player to be created. We're trading a town for a mafia.
I need to think on it some more though and I might also be missing a detail.

[Alisae]

I think allowing the opportunity for scum to get an extra kill is important
we also shouldn't be sending anyone that's too important if we do try to create opportunities for scum to kill. Town can benefit off of a townie that needs to be sorted dieing.

I'm not sure on this though.

[Alisae]

Like I'm not okay with obvtown getting killed via the extra kill mechanic, so it would be someone that town would be okay with dieing.

pedit: I mean I think we can try to go for a task any% speedrun but I think if we get handed a free scum lynch we should take it?

[Alisae]

I'm going to electrical. I'm doing my task.

Either a) scum kill me and leave less for y'all to do

Or b) scum kill elsewhere and I can get those tasks.

Agreeing to anything else seems stupid.

Cool ur with me

[Alisae]

VOTE: Pooky

Pooky/Alisae are scum.

Immediately trying to get town to divulge all the information scum could possibly want, pushing NE's so they don't have to face any possible pressure, and distracting town away from actual scumhunting with our alternate win condition.

All of this is a favorable game-state for scum, not town. Town should want the locations they have to go to be secret so that scum can't plan where they're going without making reads (outside of circumstances were Town should want to team up with other Town in a hood.) Town should want scum elims for obvious reasons AND to reduce likelihood of the big scary extra kill. Town will still want regular elims for the reasons we always want regular elims. Tasks become distributable anyways when they die and we can push the public tasks to people who are widely TR'd and already going to the same location (which would be a scenario we'd actually want to have people claiming tasks.)

Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Please stop falling for scum ploys to give them a favorable gamestate.

This is cool
I can respond to this when I get home but I think we should talk

[Alisae]

I'm back. Let me read up

[Alisae]

enby

time to google

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The other thing is there's a PT for each room so we'd have knowledge of who is in what room. So if someone is where they're not meant to be we'd know by the next room phase.

Wait, is the same PT used for the same room. Like we'll be able to see who was in that room on N1 in N2? Man this leaves me with questions.

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Wait, wait, wait.
Is there even any hunting in this game.

We hunt later in the day phase. We got plenty of time to do so. And this is just a good way of kickstarting the game because everything said so far is probably sortable.

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agree if it's on a plate due to a cop investigation or something, but otherwise I'm not keen on us elimming through half-assed scumhunting when we are all handicapped with post restrictions and the like.

We're not handicapped today.

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suddenly I want to yeet Flea for making my page size double
and also for doing the RQS thats gross

bro RQS is fun

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Comms would be a global post restriction maybe?

If this is the case I may just prefer playing drealmerz cult game. Holy post restrictions are unfun.

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I'm going to electrical. I'm doing my task.

Either a) scum kill me and leave less for y'all to do

Or b) scum kill elsewhere and I can get those tasks.

Agreeing to anything else seems stupid.

a. isnt quite right - if scum kill you, your task dont get done?

best to check with Pooky/Alisae anyway

To my understanding you are correct.

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why are there only two votes for no elim

@pooky/ali

Because we're discussing what the best course of action is.

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Fifteen pages already, what did I miss?

Its mostly mechanics talk

[Alisae]

VOTE: Pooky

Pooky/Alisae are scum.

Immediately trying to get town to divulge all the information scum could possibly want, pushing NE's so they don't have to face any possible pressure, and distracting town away from actual scumhunting with our alternate win condition.

All of this is a favorable game-state for scum, not town. Town should want the locations they have to go to be secret so that scum can't plan where they're going without making reads (outside of circumstances were Town should want to team up with other Town in a hood.) Town should want scum elims for obvious reasons AND to reduce likelihood of the big scary extra kill. Town will still want regular elims for the reasons we always want regular elims. Tasks become distributable anyways when they die and we can push the public tasks to people who are widely TR'd and already going to the same location (which would be a scenario we'd actually want to have people claiming tasks.)

Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Please stop falling for scum ploys to give them a favorable gamestate.

I just don't think it makes sense at all
The reasons for the advantages in this plan have been stated in thread now

Said advantages were: "We can get our alternate win!" "Town doesn't have to fear the bonus NK!" among other things.

The first one would be nice, but we're in a closed setup with no idea of what scum can or cannot possibly do to Town. In Among Us, the game, Imposters could sabotage the ship in various ways. There's no reason to think that isn't the case here too.

The bonus NK is a moot point either way, and divulging our tasks here only makes it more likely to happen and to people we don't want it to.

Like, I don't know how to get through to you all that hedging all of our bets on Task Completion and almost entirely ignoring traditional scumhunting is bad in a closed setup and the people who are pushing No Elim are probably scum.

Alright, let's talk.
Because quite frankly, I don't see the harm in encouraging conversation about this.
To me, I see an alternate way to win the game, and I feel like that's worth discussing. To me, I think killing is bad given said altnernate win condition.
However to you, you feel like the alternate wincon isn't worth your time.
I don't think anyone here is ignoring normal scumhunting. I think this is a great way to get the game started and to try to form reads. I'm personally a bit slow when it comes to forming reads, but either way I think this discussion is great because we get to see what alignment wants what.

So I just have a few questions.

How does leashing where everyone is going pro-scum?
Why do you think me and Pooky are doing this to not face pressure?
What is scum going to do with the information of knowing where everyone is going to go? How can they even do anything with that information if we're leashing them and forcing them to go to the room that the village wants them to go to. To my understanding, an extra kill can only happen when it's just 1 imposter and 1 villager. I understand you may be afraid of the unknown and I think its okay for you to be afraid of the unknown, but let's say their sabotage makes it so villagers are forced to go into a specific room or that they don't even have a sabotage at all. What are they going to do with that information?

[Alisae]

I'm going to update the table now

[Alisae]

i am going to be much lower post count when i get post restricted cuz my post restriction is kinda annoying

one of my post restrictions I have a work around for.
The other I don't :/

[Alisae]

Tasks
Player	Number of Tasks	Location 1	Location 2
MURDERCAT	2	Reactor	Comms
Blitzo	2	Location 1	Location 2
xRECKONERx	2	Location 1	Location 2
TheGoldenParadox	2	Location 1	Location 2
Flea The Magician	2	Security	Storage
Haschel Cedricson	2	Location 1	Location 2
DrippingGoofball	2	Location 1	Location 2
Battle Mage	1	Electrical	N/A
Gamma Emerald	1	Weapons	N/A
Alisae	2	Electrical	Admin
Titus	1	Electrical	N/A
OutWorldER	2	Location 1	Location 2
Taly	2	Location 1	Location 2
SirCakez	2	Location 1	Location 2
Akarin	1	Location 1	Location 1
PookyTheMagicalBear	2	Navigation	Cafeteria
Bell	2	Location 1	Location 2

[Alisae]

If I missed any @ me

[Alisae]

Tasks
Player	Number of Tasks	Location 1	Location 2
MURDERCAT	2	Reactor	Comms
Blitzo	2	Location 1	Location 2
xRECKONERx	2	Location 1	Location 2
TheGoldenParadox	2	Location 1	Location 2
Flea The Magician	2	Security	Storage
Haschel Cedricson	2	Location 1	Location 2
DrippingGoofball	2	Location 1	Location 2
Battle Mage	1	Electrical	N/A
Gamma Emerald	1	Weapons	N/A
Alisae	2	Electrical	Admin
Titus	1	Electrical	N/A
OutWorldER	2	Location 1	Location 2
Taly	2	Location 1	Location 2
SirCakez	2	Location 1	Location 2
Akarin	1	Location 1	Location 1
PookyTheMagicalBear	2	Navigation	Cafeteria
Bell	2	Location 1	Location 2

[Alisae]

I think I missed Taly's

[Alisae]

*Bonks alisea for stealing my page top*

Alisea is not in this game

[Alisae]

Tasks
Player	Number of Tasks	Location 1	Location 2
MURDERCAT	2	Reactor	Comms
Blitzo	2	Location 1	Location 2
xRECKONERx	2	Location 1	Location 2
TheGoldenParadox	2	Location 1	Location 2
Flea The Magician	2	Security	Storage
Haschel Cedricson	2	Location 1	Location 2
DrippingGoofball	2	Location 1	Location 2
Battle Mage	1	Electrical	N/A
Gamma Emerald	1	Weapons	N/A
Alisae	2	Electrical	Admin
Titus	1	Electrical	N/A
OutWorldER	2	Location 1	Location 2
Taly	2	Navigation	Admin
SirCakez	2	Location 1	Location 2
Akarin	1	Location 1	Location 1
PookyTheMagicalBear	2	Navigation	Cafeteria
Bell	2	Location 1	Location 2

[Alisae]

Akarin seems like they're an exception which interests me.

[Alisae]

1) and 3) Your essentially giving scum the ability to warlock the game without ever having to put themselves in danger.

Consider the following:
Scum gets everyones task claims and where they're going, they formulate fake task claims so they can hood themselves with people they're pocketing and who can drive the game forward. They then start letting said pockets drive the overall game narrative while they coast by.
You might call that far-fetched but experienced scum could pull it off easily.

I'd also point out that the style of leashing is incredibly inefficient for town because it does not help Town solve at all. We're better off leashing specific people who are highly SR'd. Leash high SR'd people to TR'd people and we get much better information.

If that happens then we can go back and re-read from D1 and figure out why did the events that happen happen and who is likely scum. I feel like this is rather easy to sniff out on a re-read.

2) Pushing No Elim and trying to push an alternate wincon victory, immediately, in a closed setup with no knowledge of scum utility. I don't know how you expect me to see that as anything BUT trying to discourage town from scum-hunting and get town to misuse D1.

I'm also going to respond to TGP and Alisae simulatenousy:

No. I'm not ignoring the mechanics of the game or the alternate win condition. I think the hoods will probably be pretty valuable to us if they're used right, and once we close the deficet of information with scum we can use the Task mechanic to push scum into bad plays or put them in an unwinnable scenario.

I just do not think it is a good idea to immediately make a plan based around our alternate win-con from the get-go, on D1, when we have the least information.

I think you're probably town.

[Alisae]

I want my shiny VCA and you people aren't helping.

u feel off.
maybe im just high and before you say anything
no, I am not high all of the time

[Alisae]

meh
too early to tell
if ur scum u'll obvscum if ur town u'll obvtown me thinks

[Alisae]

scum can only use the bonus NK on someone in a room if they are in the room with that person AND there are no other town in that room.

so if there r 2 town in a room, a bonus NK can't happen in that room.

also when someone dies, their tasks become open to be claimed, so that sets us back, hence why I said more alive townies = faster task completion

couldn't scum just not speak and not reveal they're in the room at night

yep thats possible

[Alisae]

scum can only use the bonus NK on someone in a room if they are in the room with that person AND there are no other town in that room.

so if there r 2 town in a room, a bonus NK can't happen in that room.

also when someone dies, their tasks become open to be claimed, so that sets us back, hence why I said more alive townies = faster task completion

couldn't scum just not speak and not reveal they're in the room at night

yep thats possible

it would not be possible if it is knowledge to those in the room who is in the room

[Alisae]

What if scum could move someone from one move to another
that would actually be kinda fucked.

[Alisae]

one room*

[Alisae]

My brain hurts. I have zero idea on how to approach this day play without wagons. My data is my crutch.

I kinda like Taly though.

you might get your wagons later if thats something we're doing

[Alisae]

is it just me or is gamma obvtowning it up

[Alisae]

Btw what’s the table looking like rn

I don't think there should be any changes since I last posted it but im also just not paying attention

Tasks
Player	Number of Tasks	Location 1	Location 2
MURDERCAT	2	Reactor	Comms
Blitzo	2	Location 1	Location 2
xRECKONERx	2	Location 1	Location 2
TheGoldenParadox	2	Location 1	Location 2
Flea The Magician	2	Security	Storage
Haschel Cedricson	2	Location 1	Location 2
DrippingGoofball	2	Location 1	Location 2
Battle Mage	1	Electrical	N/A
Gamma Emerald	1	Weapons	N/A
Alisae	2	Electrical	Admin
Titus	1	Electrical	N/A
OutWorldER	2	Location 1	Location 2
Taly	2	Navigation	Admin
SirCakez	2	Location 1	Location 2
Akarin	1	Location 1	Location 1
PookyTheMagicalBear	2	Navigation	Cafeteria
Bell	2	Location 1	Location 2

[Alisae]

yo ali where the wagons at or where the discussion for them at

how do you feel about the plist lumping you and pooky in the same vein together and by extension, how i am a contributor to that perception?

I don’t really care at the moment tbh

[Alisae]

I think Pooky/Ali/BM group is actually super trustworthy and we should make sure they are with different groups so they can "secure" each one

I actually don’t have a reason to trust pooky yet. I also am just slow when it comes to trusting people though so...

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I'm watching Ali tbh, I've been burned there before and it was

P A I N F U L

this stance weirds me out. Not sure what teh reason is to be paranoid tbh. Maybe it just doesn’t matter tho.

[Alisae]

If I get mislimmed day one, there's little I can do. I have accepted that with this game state. I have an easy task if I slowly post day 2.

That being said, I do feel my wagon is scum driven though. Consensus is gathering around no elimination but yet people vote me for actually voting for it.

Here are my actual weak reads though.

HC is scum riding off town Reck's coattails to disrupt the game.

BM is scum for waiting on a consensus before voting me. His position on me is just hot garbage in his ISO. He appeared fine when it was just me and him going to electrical but sad when Ali was added to the mix. That would have three in electrical. Removing me makes two in electrical.

Taly and Flea are town because of their metas.

Pooky and Alisae are town.

Cakez is town.

I like
Most of this
Me thinks

[Alisae]

Yeah I’m really interested in what alignment is okay with what tbh

[Alisae]

I'm watching Ali tbh, I've been burned there before and it was

P A I N F U L

this stance weirds me out. Not sure what teh reason is to be paranoid tbh. Maybe it just doesn’t matter tho.

Suffice to say I'm not going back to school with you, you bully .( ̵˃﹏˂̵ )

I’m not that hard to read :/

[Alisae]

@Reck

- who feels like scum who is going along with/wants the massclaim plan

[Alisae]

Btw flea you probably shouldn’t put votes in spoilers
They won’t get counted

[Alisae]

@Reck

- who feels like scum who is going along with/wants the massclaim plan

I’ll extend this to

@Haschel

as well

[Alisae]

Alisae do you think people opposing the massclaim/no-elim plan are scummy?

I will say that I’m definitely the most interested in haschel, but I am not sure on if they’re scummy. I feel like there has to be some town that don’t want to go along with it, and there is probably some scum that are going along with it.

I feel like its best to figure out the motivation from both sides tbh

[Alisae]

And I think its best to wait to sort reck

[Alisae]

VOTE: Haschel
This is what I want to put the most pressure on right now me thinks

[Alisae]

Scum motivation for anything is information and towncred.

Town's motivation is find scum and win.

It pretty much always comes down to that surely?

What I’m trying to communicate is I have no fucking idea and I think its more important to evaluate both sides of the arguement.

[Alisae]

The way you describe it Flea makes it sounds like scum supports massclaim

[Alisae]

Ya I want some Chaos
I trust you to create that environment

[Alisae]

Also Flea while ur at it what do you think of Titus

[Alisae]

No not at all
I’m not sure how I want to play this game atm and I’ll probably decide later. I just feel like its important to discuss our options now and also chaos is good for just generating reads. Order seems to be more beneficial for scum most of the time so...

[Alisae]

I’m not sure on no eliminating atm.
I’m not sure on whats happening in the game and what each team wants.
Chaos helps generate that information.

[Alisae]

Quite frankly I’m considering just going back to normal scumhunting because my brain just seems to default to that and I want to solve a puzzle. So I think I am going to do that for a little bit.
Right now I do agree with Pooky on the basis that we should coordinate where we’re going.

[Alisae]

Ya I want some Chaos
I trust you to create that environment

Is this free reign to just run around the ship like a lunatic? ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)

Also Flea while ur at it what do you think of Titus

Cautious at the moment, People are saying she's more vote and wagon driven, but she's not doing much in that way.

are we really moving away from the idea of a systematic and cohesive team approach, to a free-for-all?

Maybe. Why? What'cha thinkin ( ͝סּ ͜ʖ͡סּ)

ya you can do what you want.
Tbh I was townreading Titus, but the more I think about it, the more I am warming up to the idea that she could be scum. Something still seems just off.

[Alisae]

I’m also not entirely sure why you need my approval you should kinda just do what you want.

[Alisae]

O wait
I’m actually reading what Flea is posting now.

Meh honestly,
Its too early for me to care about mechanics right now and I don’t really want to turn my brain on and think about them so...

[Alisae]

Both in game and in the morning

[Alisae]

Quite frankly I’m considering just going back to normal scumhunting because my brain just seems to default to that and I want to solve a puzzle. So I think I am going to do that for a little bit.
Right now I do agree with Pooky on the basis that we should coordinate where we’re going.

where is Pooky?

I have no idea why would i know

[Alisae]

I tore open his belly and pulled out his organs

[Alisae]

alisae when I said you could have my heart this game that is NOT what I meant

o
Woops

[Alisae]

I’ll put it back

[Alisae]

why is murdercatto not tryharding this game?

highly susp

what do you expect from flareon

[Alisae]

he usually has a 5 player locksolve by this point and is busy drafting his Paragon acceptance speech

that does not align with my experiences

[Alisae]

but i agree with you

[Alisae]

something feels off
what do you think of Titus and Haschel?

[Alisae]

700 is to murder but pooky can answer to idc

[Alisae]

something feels off
what do you think of Titus and Haschel?

What is it with these two?

While it is completely possible there is no scum in those two, if there is scum, its likely only one of them.
Titus something just doesn't sit right with me.
Haschel I'm moreso just interested in what other players think of him as well as what he thinks considering his iso sucks and I feel like he would be a more of an inquizitive player?

[Alisae]

Haschel seems fine? In the beginning of a large, sometimes players get pushed out a bit.

hmm

[Alisae]

If I get mislimmed day one, there's little I can do. I have accepted that with this game state. I have an easy task if I slowly post day 2.

That being said, I do feel my wagon is scum driven though. Consensus is gathering around no elimination but yet people vote me for actually voting for it.

Here are my actual weak reads though.

HC is scum riding off town Reck's coattails to disrupt the game.

BM is scum for waiting on a consensus before voting me. His position on me is just hot garbage in his ISO. He appeared fine when it was just me and him going to electrical but sad when Ali was added to the mix. That would have three in electrical. Removing me makes two in electrical.

Taly and Flea are town because of their metas.

Pooky and Alisae are town.

Cakez is town.

This Titus post sounds pretty townie to me.

ya thats like
what I first thought as well
but the more I think about it the more I feel like something is just wrong and its kinda where I get my 1 scum if any in {Haschel, Titus}

Maybe I feel like this just comes from this expectation I have that Titus would play a bigger part than she currently has? I feel like this is just the root of my worries atm.
I also feel like she might have added a bit more to the mech talk but I'm not 100% on this.

[Alisae]

I feel like I've definitely seen that kind of Titus before.

[Alisae]

maybe I should just leave Titus on the backburner tbh.
Early Game Titus is way harder to read then Late Game Titus

[Alisae]

plus there's gonna be that moment eventually where she's either obvtown or obvscum
it SHOULD happen eventually

[Alisae]

i don't think im going to touch reck day 1.

[Alisae]

also OH GOD I think I ate too much ice cream aaaaaaaaah T_T

[Alisae]

the more im thinking about the tasks the more I am going to dread doing them.

[Alisae]

honestly makes me just want to not do tasks but i feel like that's unfair to my team

[Alisae]

see now this also feels weird because its like
well some of us claimed our tasks, and thats partially because of me, and now I feel like even if I don't want to do tasks, I feel like I should just because other players played their hand, it would be weird if I didn't go along with the plan to win via tasks when I suggested the option to do so :/

[Alisae]

I also wonder if each room has its own way to impact the game.

[Alisae]

I also wonder if each room has its own way to impact the game.

@Reck

I think you're the one who is saying that you have somewhat of an idea of how shea designs games. Do you think this is within your expectations?

[Alisae]

the more im thinking about the tasks the more I am going to dread doing them.

It's gonna be the two of us!

what would DGB do in this situation

[Alisae]

the more im thinking about the tasks the more I am going to dread doing them.

It's gonna be the two of us!

what would DGB do in this situation

I'm gonna be a trooper and do it ^5

ya same

[Alisae]

you guys should definitely do all the posting done today you want to do

cuz tommorrow is going to be comically badly post restricted lolol

nobody fuck up their tasks pls

can you just remind me why we need to do tasks again

[Alisae]

you guys should definitely do all the posting done today you want to do

cuz tommorrow is going to be comically badly post restricted lolol

nobody fuck up their tasks pls

can you just remind me why we need to do tasks again

wincon

T_T

[Alisae]

ugggggggggh at least my electrical one I can bypass by just posting movie scripts and copypastas

[Alisae]

you guys should definitely do all the posting done today you want to do

cuz tommorrow is going to be comically badly post restricted lolol

nobody fuck up their tasks pls

can we finish the massclaim and go to night then? seems like we're not achieving much else.

im getting things done

[Alisae]

why would you put this in your game

[Alisae]

okay this is something I need to know
if you knew that this game would contain post restrictions, would you have joined it?

pedit: I HAVE THAT ONE TOO

[Alisae]

my electrical post restriction isn't that bad.
My posts need to contain at least 300 words.
I can bypass that easily

[Alisae]

Because fun!

ya
for the mod

[Alisae]

ig its just a me issue then

[Alisae]

wait r we going to compete to see who has the worst post restriction

i got one that makes me post in rhyming couplets

i dont even know what rhyming couplets are.

just stay alert
don't drop your guard
you might get hurt
if i tunnel you hard

I forgot you could go ABAB for a second

[Alisae]

I was probably just gonna do mostly AABB

[Alisae]

the F in Flareon and Furret stands for friend

[Alisae]

you know
it now occured to me that maybe we shouldn't have said what our post restrictions were?

[Alisae]

There can be duplicate tasks.

wait

[Alisae]

The imposters have been provided a list of example fake tasks.

also ig its not as bad as I thought outing our post restrictions is

[Alisae]

There can be duplicate tasks.

wait

oh nvm I get what this is communicating now.

[Alisae]

I thought for a second I wouldn't have to do my tasks lulw

[Alisae]

I am probably going to be the FIRST one to fuck up

[Alisae]

why am I telling scum this
now they won't shoot me
what am I doing

[Alisae]

Explains why e has the sprout on e's head

WHAT

[Alisae]

you know
it now occured to me that maybe we shouldn't have said what our post restrictions were?

What are the pros & cons?

well I thought a con was scum get to fake post restrictions, but apparently they already have a list, so this isn't a con.
the pros would be I'm not actually sure. Its fun. There we go.

[Alisae]

It me.


It Alisae

WHAT

[Alisae]

Alisae town pinged.
Murdercat sidey.

@Titus: I am scared of your scum game. But also, you always scum ping me, even when you're town so like, meh.

Might have lost it in the mess but did we end up deciding who was going where and with who?
Think Alisae missed in, but to reiterate destination: Security, navigation. Can go to either, as needed.


Pedit: Makes sense @Doggo.

Got it

[Alisae]

pooky/ali feeling more comfortable in that townbin tho they aren't talking to me >:

I just have nothin to say

[Alisae]

Tasks
Player	Number of Tasks	Location 1	Location 2
MURDERCAT	2	Reactor	Comms
Blitzo	2	Location 1	Location 2
xRECKONERx	2	Location 1	Location 2
TheGoldenParadox	2	Location 1	Location 2
Flea The Magician	2	Storage	Security
Haschel Cedricson	2	Location 1	Location 2
DrippingGoofball	2	Location 1	Location 2
Battle Mage	1	Electrical	N/A
Gamma Emerald	1	Weapons	N/A
Alisae	2	Electrical	Admin
Titus	1	Electrical	N/A
OutWorldER	2	Location 1	Location 2
Taly	2	Navigation	Admin
SirCakez	2	Location 1	Location 2
Akarin	1	Location 1	Location 1
PookyTheMagicalBear	2	Navigation	Cafeteria
Bell	2	Navigation	Security

[Alisae]

Taly what reads do u have atm

[Alisae]

I’m not even close to rdy to flip someone

[Alisae]

bell wants a flip right now
thats super scummy

[Alisae]

me probably votes murder later

[Alisae]

blitzo is town probably

[Alisae]

@Taly,

Pooky, alisae, you (or you're doing a good job of faking some pretty detailed thoughts!), Flea,
even though I gave a warning about the doggo the doggo is still town spewing from my pov.

The rest are kinda meh, I could prolly point to weak town leans/scum leans but per post it would balance on and off.
Titus I'm rapidly vacillitating on because she looks like obv scum, but she's always scum/third party so.
Have I even played with town titus.
Oh. Yeah sort of.

a tactic scum!taly likes to use is they like to make it easier for other people to spew themselves

[Alisae]

blitzo is town probably

Isn't all of mafia pointless by definition? What does one expect?

i don't know exactly how to respond to this but I think his read on me is more likely to come from town then scum?

[Alisae]

blitzo is town probably

Isn't all of mafia pointless by definition? What does one expect?

i don't know exactly how to respond to this but I think his read on me is more likely to come from town then scum?

Could be scum who doesn't want to spar with a hyper poster. NAI

he called me out for being shallow thats a wild take from scum that I don't think would come from scum in this gamestate. I feel like there's just more signs that say it's likely to be town.

Don't let me stop you though, I don't mind you trying to push it through mostly because I want to see who supports you if anyone

[Alisae]

the more im thinking about the tasks the more I am going to dread doing them.

honestly makes me just want to not do tasks but i feel like that's unfair to my team

town af posting from Alisae
keep doing you Ali

i am going to deathtunnel you

[Alisae]

Maybe I just really like Flea's posting this game and I'm biased tho.

So you're saying that Taly is good at being scum? Aight.

missed this.
They can be. Idunno if you saw my MtG thread but I came out of a scum hydra with them. Their scumplay is fairly green. TBH when we hydra'd, they told me something that I needed to look out and to kill them on site if they do it but I don't recall what that is for the life of me.
I think I have an idea on how to catch scum!Taly if it exists in this game but if that world exists, it won't be until a wolf before him dies.

[Alisae]

what if i deathtunnel you instead as a power move

me deathtunnel harder when you have LHF as scum :3

[Alisae]

I'll claim masons with Pooky again Cakez don't you make me do it I swear to god.

[Alisae]

ya ig i am more active during this day phase.
Maybe I think its because we don't have cabd, ffery, tammy, syr, peta, and others trying to solve.

I think I tone out when that happens tbh

[Alisae]

im mostly just teasing cakez btw if that wasn't clear.

[Alisae]

TRUE

[Alisae]

wait alisae we haven't done our crumbing yet

how did you even argue that was a crumb
how you got away with that is beyond me

[Alisae]

how did you even argue that was a crumb
how you got away with that is beyond me

I knew I wanted to be your lover as soon as I saw your name on the player list :3

why am I not surprised.

[Alisae]

{Gamma, OutWorldER, Blitzo}
{Flea, Reck, Battle Mage, Akarin, Cakez, Pooky, Bell} (tbh this feels like too much so something is probably wrong here.
{TGP, Taly, DGB}
{Haschel, Titus}
{Murder}

[Alisae]

Maybe I just really like Flea's posting this game and I'm biased tho.

So you're saying that Taly is good at being scum? Aight.

missed this.
They can be. Idunno if you saw my MtG thread but I came out of a scum hydra with them. Their scumplay is fairly green. TBH when we hydra'd, they told me something that I needed to look out and to kill them on site if they do it but I don't recall what that is for the life of me.
I think I have an idea on how to catch scum!Taly if it exists in this game but if that world exists, it won't be until a wolf before him dies.

i dont remember saying something

exactly

like

"kill me on sight if i do something"

, but i might have.

i cant tell if your take on me is to be pragmatic knowing what im capable of, or youre positioning around me since your approach to me right now is to shelve me.

basically, are you taking to me in good faith here? i feel like ive had more posts directed to or about you than otherwise, so i want to know if the distance is intentional.

atm ur just completely not on my radar

[Alisae]

My second thought was that TGP was entirely forgettable.
I might let that develop for a bit and see what happens.

obviously i can't prove this, but i think blitzo wrote this AFTER previewing and faked it so they didn't

what the fuck

[Alisae]

I just finished playing some fun games of 5D Chess With Multiverse Time Travel.
It was wild.
I'm going to go pass out now.

[Alisae]

Yawn
I’ll read up later

[Alisae]

I'm about to read up, but I feel like I need to say this.

I feel like people are using the concept of a no elimination being an option to avoid scumhunting. I have no idea if this is actually a thing thats happening, but if it is, I hate this. If you are one of these people and ur town, please stop. If we want to no elim, we will consider that option when we have 48-72 hours left.
This is a very important day phase because its the day phase where everyone will be able to communicate to the best of their ability w/o being post restricted. This means this is the best day phase to try to get the most done.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk
reading up now.

[Alisae]

and yes, i do feel like given the sheer noise:content ratio in this game, it's completely fathomable to not have many strong town reads at the moment, especially w/ alisae et al leading us all on a one way trip to stupidtown with this goddamn massclaim plan

IM NOT EVEN DOING ANYTHING WITH THIS ANYMORE
HOLY FUCK DUUUUUUUUDE
I'm malding

[Alisae]

imagine this: scum have an ability to move someone out of a room against their will

how would we ever complete our tasks if scum could move people out of their rooms?

this is a good post

[Alisae]

Okay I ended up having sex instead of reading the last 20 pages. On this page, though,

reck if you tell us you are going to room ___ and its got 3 people in it, and then you dont go to room ___ and instead there are 2 people, and one of them is scum, and he gets a bonus kill on town, we r going to lockscum you so you are just hardthrowing atp

In the event this scenario happens why would the focus be on Reck and not, you know, the only living person in the room?

I signed up to play a Mafia game, not solve a logic puzzle. And in my experience people who want the town to focus on the logic puzzle instead of the Mafia game tend to be scum.

Similarly, I'm not in favor of No Elimination today because it hands scum a free kill.

Right, reading 20 pages for real this time.

Is it bad of me to want to townread this for just completely missing my question in general when I even @ them in bold?

[Alisae]

in that case we might as well all be in the cafeteria every night if we are going to just ignore the entire night action part of the game.

you know
I won't say no to this idea!

[Alisae]

Alright that was a lot of pages and surprisingly little substance.

A few notes.

Flea asks if I was joking about Pooky Sus or not. I was not joking.

So in theory it seems all tasks are a post restriction of some sort, I'd expect them all to be "short" style tasks.

O2 and Reactor MUST BE FIXED or imposters win.
Comms would be a global post restriction maybe?
Lights might hide kills?

...

What good can

possibly

come from this line of discussion?

People were asking, and I know some people enjoy setup spec.

Oh well if they enjoy it then I guess that's okay no wait the opposite of that.

Drops this like it's a bad fart, and promptly leaves. No contribution, no commitment, just ε=(｡◕ฺˇд ˇ◕ฺ｡）

Why did I not follow up on a conversation about a topic not being a great thing to talk about? It is a mystery.

Blitzo's iso bothers me. I like a lot of the questions he's asking, but I don't feel like there's a lot of follow-up.

I'm going to electrical. I'm doing my task.

Either a) scum kill me and leave less for y'all to do

Or b) scum kill elsewhere and I can get those tasks.

Agreeing to anything else seems stupid.

Option A has a big problem here. Can anybody else see what it is?

Her reads in 580 are terrible, too. Misrepresentation of my game + Wildly overreacting to BM's 254 + Appeal to meta + 3 reads with literally no substance behind them.

Unvote; Vote: Titus

Taly is by far my strongest townread for being the person who is visibly doing the most scumhunting. OutWorldER looks good too for similar reasons and also I like a lot of his posts.

That's all for now.

I hate and am okay with this post tbh.

[Alisae]

@alisae respond to my question about your reads please

nah bro
i just want people to wagon others atm im not gonna play my hand

[Alisae]

Ali is a known powerwolf and wants to manipulate the gamestate/narrative to eir advantage and the fact that they were one of the first people pushing No Eliminate plan makes me suspicious.

I'M NOT EVEN DOING ANY OF THAT
omg
im malding

[Alisae]

See if I compare the two reads between OutWorldER and Murdercat, Murder seems way more townier then OutWorldER or OutWorldER is actually just blind.

[Alisae]

wait r u a powrwolf??!?!

my prefered style of wolf gameplay is to powerwolf.
If I was scum you would probably see a lot more aggression from me

[Alisae]

like the best way to put it is if I'm scum I would probably be trying to get a lot more control over the gamestate then what I'm currently doing.
I have an agenda to push if im scum

[Alisae]

Can we move on to no elimination and compliance? I am bored and this feels like an RVS that will last forever.

HOLY SHIT TITUS
NO
STOP
LET PEOPLE SCUMHUNT IF THEY WANT TO THERE'S NO HARM IN THAT.

[Alisae]

Yeah my townread on Ali rn is based on the fact there's been no AtE or weird aggression lol

I use emotion as town.

[Alisae]

if reck flips red here it proves our no-elim plan can probly win the game

but wait, he's okay no elimination

[Alisae]

i think we need to start eliming in the no room claim pool


we can probly hit bad guys

and if they're townies we were never going to win this game

VOTE: Reck

my tolerance for gamethrowing is gone

Maaaybe. This is the vote I would go with tho not Haschel.

[Alisae]

i read up

[Alisae]

I'm going to electrical with Battle Mage and Titus

[Alisae]

And then after that Taly we can go on a date together
does that interest you?

[Alisae]

Murder seems way more townier

I thought you were SRing me though

I honestly just think ur aligned with Reck.
If I compared the two reads on my slot from you and outworlder and I had to vote one of them I would vote outworlder

[Alisae]

Murdercat - I'd say aligned with Reck
Blitzo - Town and I ain't tellin you why until he is in range of dieing.
xRECKONERx - I'd say aligned with Murdercat
thegoldenparadox - probably town
Flea The Magician - I don't think it would be impossible for this to be scum but I can also see it being town tbh
Haschel Cedricson - townlean
DrippingGoofBall - Maybe town
Battle Mage - town
gamma emerald - town
titus - not interested
OutWorldER - Maybe this could just be scum
Taly - maybe town not sure tbh could be anything
SirCakez - town
Akarin - town
PookyTheMagicalBear - not interested
Bell - I think this is town?

[Alisae]

Ok but this is not helping me out rn

its not supposed to.
You can continue to be aggressive and I will continue to observe you

[Alisae]

Murdercat - I'd say aligned with Reck
Blitzo - Town and I ain't tellin you why until he is in range of dieing.
xRECKONERx - I'd say aligned with Murdercat
thegoldenparadox - probably town
Flea The Magician - I don't think it would be impossible for this to be scum but I can also see it being town tbh
Haschel Cedricson - townlean
DrippingGoofBall - Maybe town
Battle Mage - town
gamma emerald - town
titus - not interested
OutWorldER - Maybe this could just be scum
Taly - maybe town not sure tbh could be anything
SirCakez - town
Akarin - town
PookyTheMagicalBear - not interested
Bell - I think this is town?

This readslist is pretty bad Ali you're calling almost everyone town

i know right its really weird
I mean I am quick to call a lot of people town
also my d1 is usually terrible.

[Alisae]

this is just where I am atm and I'm sure I can adjust depending on the flips

[Alisae]

actually I can just
post my blitzo read again honestly
i don't mind

I think blitzo is likely town because his read on me is something I don't think scum would go out of their way to fake on me. It feels more real than anything

[Alisae]

i didn't really want to talk about blitzo most because i was mostly just interested in seeing who joins the wagon
but I don't think my read is convincing enough to tell people to back off now that I think about it so...

[Alisae]

TRUE

[Alisae]

bruh

[Alisae]

i caught up and I have nothing to say

[Alisae]

i caught up and I have nothing to say

What is the point of this post

it gives me a reason to ghost out of the thread after appearing
duh

[Alisae]

i caught up and I have nothing to say

What is the point of this post

it gives me a reason to ghost out of the thread after appearing
duh

But you could have just not posted anything and nobody would have said anything
What is with this game and pointless posts

so I could have just posted bruh
and then left

[Alisae]

like idunno cakez
i thought i might gain something from reading 4 pages
little did I know, I didn't.

its very surprising.
tbh I don't exactly know what I expected.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Flea

[Alisae]

VOTE: titus

the reck endorsement all i needed

holy shit

[Alisae]

but ya uh
kinda don't like flea's vote history
seems like opportunism to me.

[Alisae]

me thinks titus flips green

[Alisae]

Man do I want to scumhunt
or do I just want to win through tasks

[Alisae]

this 100% just decides if I no elim today

[Alisae]

but scumhunting is just so much more fun

[Alisae]

Why is Blitzo scum? Like legit, I’ve actually gotten some good vibes from him so far.

he's the lynchbait in the gamestate

[Alisae]

idunno
i don't think he's scum so don't ask me

[Alisae]

dont we go to admin together?

i believe so

[Alisae]

Alisae, do you know what post your last table was up to date to? Was it up to date to the post you posted it at?

If you've lost the will to do it, I could do it instead.

We gotta organize this mess.

since I last posted it.
Has there been new claims or anything I'm just missing?

[Alisae]

TGP's case looks like a post that was written by a monkey slamming the keys on a typewriter