Mini Normal 2177 | Town Win

[Noraa]

Golden is town from wagonomics;

wow that's it? ur probs a partner then :/

[Noraa]

My solve is Hiraki/Golden/No lim

[Noraa]

My solve is Hiraki/Golden

Persuade me.

nah. I've given up on pushing Golden. No one wants it so I'll archive it and push it tomorrow.

Herta, claim. You are at L-2 and NM *drags NM over* is present so this is a differently structured game.

no one stated intent to L-1 tho. why are you rolefishing?

I did intent. I am not on wagon so I am allowed to declare intent.

[Noraa]

Cant have nolim

[Noraa]

its a terrible option.

[Noraa]

That's what you wanted to comment on out of everything?

Golden raises a valid point. I am 1000% tunneled this game - more tunneled than I've ever been on the history of MS.

But I do agree with NM that out of everything that has happened, if u were to choose one thing to comment on, it should not be that.


Golden, I do not believe you are town. I could be wrong but I won't believe it til I see a flip. I am confbiasing a shit ton this game. It's not my normal thing but there's something about how you're playing that is just making me think "scumscumscumscumscumscum"

This may be a learning experience for me and I may come off as extremely mean this game. Either way, I believe you are scum and my soul is dead set on it. Theres no changing my mind.

[Noraa]

NM dont hammer if ur town. We need a claim. In case Herta is a pr, we cannot just hammer.

[Noraa]

*sigh*

fuzzy, why the fuck
NM, why the fuck

if this flips red, ok fine.
if this flips green, tomorrow I'm going to be mad.

[Noraa]

Cant have nolim

Why not?

it bad.

[Noraa]

Ok well, herta flipped red. That kinda throws my scum team solve out the window cuz Hiraki started the wagon on Herta and scum never start a wagon on scum for a different scum :/

[Noraa]

I'm surprised Shoshin was town ngl. Did not expect that at all.

[Noraa]

Not so fast. We shouldn't lim "No lim" yet. I have some rereading to do and I don't wanna end the day early.

My goal this game is to hit 3 scum in a row.

Shoshin might've had some god tier reads bc they died last night and I do not recall a claim or even a soft. All of yesterday was literally me going "huh shoshin is kinda scummy"

[Noraa]

My goal this game is to hit 3 scum in a row.

goal missed

we already hit a scum day 1. two more and we win.

[Noraa]

I do not stan a "no lim" wagon aorn.

[Noraa]

I do not stan a "no lim" wagon aorn.

ok but pls talk to me about your jacko read so i can sheep it. i know youre good at reading him.

I mean ... I'm not?

I've been in one game with Jacko and I was scum that game so I didn't really have to read him at all?

Jacko and I's history is in games he modded and I played in.

[Noraa]

NM- what happened to your TGP scum read. You seem pretty sure that he was atleast 99.9 percent scum if I was reading your post yesterday correctly. Are you still scum reading TGP or did something change?

Herta scum flip makes me uncertain of Golden.

[Noraa]

Certainly it is.

[Noraa]

cuz ur predecessor was a lil scummy.

[Noraa]

Why am I getting speedwagoned?
I at least deserve to know.

Because you're obvscum like your partner

disagree.

[Noraa]

I think we're looking in the wrong direction but I'm not sure who is scum. I no longer think Jacko/No lim is scum.

[Noraa]

vc

why isn't it a vee cee O_O

[Noraa]

fyi you didn't call them so don't take literally any credit because you literally called me, TGP & whoever the fuck cares scum and not who flipped scum so GTFO of your current mindset and get into a better one thanks

Lmfao I didn't take credit for it anyways. Why so worked up lmao?

Rn out of Golden and you, you look noticeably worse considering you shaded Herta but joined that wagon much later than many other people.

[Noraa]

part of me doesn't know why shoshin was eliminated but i or TGP was not - care to enlighten me? i am lost in this dark world

if you and golden are by any chance town, why the fuck would scum kill you both when I'm here and expected to tunnel u both?

Golden, I'm willing to hold off on for now.

You, I am not.

[Noraa]

LMAO i wish i had this phase in my mafia career

my current phase? I call it the madman phase

[Noraa]

the above post I take offense to especially if ur scum. if ur not, eh ok I'll take it.

[Noraa]

I would like to lynch Noraa or geraint today.
I have played 1 game with (Town) Noraa and she were super tunelly. Which fits this game.

These two sentences really don't match up but whatever, I think ur town so I'll let it go.

[Noraa]

Go off about how someone that's been onsite 3 months has a bad day 1 solve and is overconfident cuz her last few games went well.

[Noraa]

I'm on V/LA so I can't post often.

I think Shoshin was killed because she led town yesterday. I came across someone saying that Shoshin had really good and genuine reads as town and third party, but as scum she couldn't fake the genuineness. So maybe Noraa is right that she was killed because her reads were accurate.

Also, why are we voting No Lim? Jackson might have been scummy for the second half of the game but it was so contrary to how he played the first half. Why would he suddenly flip like that? There may be some outside factors that clouded his judgement, like his personal life. I personally don't read his slot as scummy and so far I don't see No Lim as scummy. I suggest that we give No Lim some times to adjust itself to the game, there ought to be better elimination choices than No Lim.

I'm not putting any vote until I can better focus on the game.

I literally agree with every single sentence in this post. Zurel locktown.

[Noraa]

Town: Zurel, No lim

Reassessing: everyone else

[Noraa]

Go off about how someone that's been onsite 3 months has a bad day 1 solve and is overconfident cuz her last few games went well.

interesting flashwagon; i agree with it somewhat but will let NL produce some more content before letting that go to l-2

VOTE: noraa yeah i'm really not feeling the way she is choosing to push hiraki and not me today it seems uncharacteristic

lmfao that TR on me really did disappear fast for you. maybe I shouldn't have reassessed at the end of yesterday. ur super scummy.

[Noraa]

Ok yeah I need to go back an ISO shoshin. There must've been something that scared the scums but shoshin never claimed so it had to be the reads.

[Noraa]

*and

[Noraa]

Spoiler:

I'd guess scum is among Taylor, Golden, Fuzzy, or Nepenthe, maybe. Who knows? I haven't played mafia in over a year so I'm not sure how much trust to put in my own reads yet. We'll have to wait until after we lynch a scum for me to regain some confidence.

A list of towny to scummy:

Geraint
Jackson
Zurel
Nora
Rock
Herta
NM
Golden
Nepenthe
Fuzzy
Taylor

I'm probably wrong.

Scum is Taylor/Fuzzy/Hiraki.

I actually think the Taylor lynch is already done, it's just delayed.

Ah, beautiful. Thanks. Throws out that theory then.

This was a pretty absurd theory to hold. Feels like you're trying too hard to justify a Herta lynch. To help get some non-biased thoughts, can you assume for just a second that Herta's town -- who do you suspect in that case?

I've been rereading the game with as open a mind as possible. I'm at page 16 & by far the scummiest players are Herta/Taylor. Rock/Zurel are the towniest.

Hiraki's probably third towniest.

I'd like to flesh out the final point re: process of elimination. I think there's a fairly large group of obvious townies in this game. They include Rock, Zurel, Hiraki, Geraint, & Nora, most obviously. That leaves scum in the group of Jackson, Taylor, Golden, Fuzzy, NM, and Herta. Among this group, everyone has demonstrated some hints of town other than Herta. I can point to specific language from each of them that suggests town, including even Taylor. Herta's the only player who doesn't have anything towny in their play.

I also feel somewhat confident about Herta as scum because Hiraki agrees with me, Hiraki's a strong town read of mine, and Hiraki's actually experienced enough to pick up this stuff, even if for the wrong reasons.

[Noraa]

So Taylor was a huge suspect for shoshin

[Noraa]

So shoshin and my reads combined is like remaining scum is in {Taylor, Golden, Fuzzy, NM, Hiraki}

[Noraa]

I can vibe it even tho some of my SRs are their TRs.

[Noraa]

We should lim the Taylor slot today.

[Noraa]

VOTE: Cmod

[Noraa]

Ego post

Hey everyone!!! Idk what my previous slot has claimed but just to make everything simple:
I'm cop, I checked CreativeMod1 Last night and got that they're Town, if I die in the night then you know to trust it

VOTE: unvote

Idk if I'm voting anyone yet but just in case, I'm gonna unvote until I've had a chance to look through things

In the mean time, can everyone give me a quick little run down of who looks townie/scummie and why? given that you've voted off a scum, I'd assume there's lots of reads based on that vote

these are scumposts VOTE: creativemod this is laughably scummy

goodness gracious how are you so fucking scummy?

[Noraa]

Phew I really need to reread golden sometime.

[Noraa]

out of the people not on the herta wagon, I think the only possible scum are geraint and rockhopper. Nolim is literally just acting like full on LHF atm and I am starting to just TR there.

[Noraa]

Shoshin's ISO I have checked. They NEVER softed pr. They NEVER claimed pr.

They didn't lead the Herta wagon.

I think their reads scared the scums and Shoshin was dead certain Taylor was scum.

[Noraa]

Btw my read on Golden has done a 180 at this point in time. flailing around and jumping on all sorts of wagons is a good sign + after a herta red flip, hiraki and Taylor look noticeably worse than golden.
I can TR golden for the time being.

[Noraa]

Shoshin's ISO I have checked. They NEVER softed pr. They NEVER claimed pr.

They didn't lead the Herta wagon.

I think their reads scared the scums and Shoshin was dead certain Taylor was scum.

[Noraa]

Pre-edit: Hahahahhaahaha, Nora saying that Hiraki looks worse than Golden xD I'm sorry but Hiraki is right at the top of my town read list, there's no way scum busses and holds a bus like that, like that's some pretty ballsy scum play if it is a bus

oh. Oh. OH.

This is very off ur town meta, no?

[Noraa]

Or he was just town leader driving activity

half shoshin's posts were asking people questions. I do agree its possible tho cuz shoshin was defo a town leader of some sort.

[Noraa]

Does anyone have a read on geraint atm?
I've felt like this slot is towny but their reads are so very hard to agree with.

[Noraa]

Does anyone have a read on geraint atm?
I've felt like this slot is towny but their reads are so very hard to agree with.

ut of the people not on the herta wagon, I think the only possible scum are geraint and rockhopper

I found this....what like 9 posts ago?

Yeah I think you and rockhopper are the only possible scum off wagon.
I've found u towny all game but I've been wavering on that read since a while ago.
These don't contradict.

[Noraa]

is this just the solve? {herta, cm1, no łynch}?

Herta/Cmod/_____
is something I agree with. Nolim doesn't belong there.

[Noraa]

okay, then let's get cmod and we can sort the rest out tomorrow?

+1
I agree with this statement.

Im already voting there but for emphasis,
VOTE: Cmod
FOR THE WIN!

[Noraa]

CreativeMod1 (3): TheFuzzylogic99, Noraa, TheGoldenParadox

Are you voting cmod or Taylor or both?

CMod is Taylor

[Noraa]

Yes because straight after losing 1 partner we're gonna go straight in for the bus strat and harm each other more xD

wtf is this supposed to mean? is this a scum slip?

[Noraa]

nvm, I get what it means now.

[Noraa]

I was not paying attention to him and then he scummed all over the place.

I feel like this is consensus and I feel like my scumdar is broken. Every time I'm in a game with scum!Herta, he basically becomes a huge wagon on day 1. I never SRed him in either tho and idk maybe my scumdar really is broken.

Can someone, postgame, come tell me what about Herta was scummy cuz I really didn't catch anything :/

[Noraa]

I feel like I kinda did cover Shoshin dying multiple times.
After Herta's scum flip, Shoshin was 100% the most townie player in the game, without any proper info there's no way anyone would be limming Shoshin any time soon. Scum killed it to take away a town slot.

Also Shoshin had a bit of a list of scum reads and actually if you reread, Shoshin had actually changed their reads on me later on in the game, so if anything if I was scum I'd want to keep them alive as they clearly was having more sus for some other players

If shoshin is towny and had a shockingly good readslist, aren't they even more likely to die night 1?

[Noraa]

Ur slot was scummy all along anyways.

[Noraa]

NL isn't even pretending to be town

I think NL is just LHF.

[Noraa]

Cmod on the other hand ....

[Noraa]

quack

[Noraa]

can I be a duck too?

[Noraa]

Toogeloo replaces Zurel

Hi Toog! Obvtown and I'll consider u locktown

[Noraa]

noraa since you are here
do you think zurel is scum

no I do not think zurel is scum.

[Noraa]

noraa since you are here
do you think zurel is scum

no I do not think zurel is scum.

why not?

The vibe is towny. Shoshin also thought zurel was town. Toog'd have to really fuck up bad for me to end up SRing there.

[Noraa]

Glad we are finally town together toog
ur locktown in my book

[Noraa]

Also needs to answer why I voted Herta for 90% of Day 1 and would SR Fuzzy if we're both scum together but yeah, that's another good start.

So far we've got "well, Hertamaf did put out this reads list and they probably have to have a mafia on this list...well I can just call 2 people town, then also call out one as flipped town and there we go, I have a POE"

Like ???

this is record amounts of shade towards a newly repped in slot lol

[Noraa]

Cmod claim RN

[Noraa]

too just did intent.

[Noraa]

*toog

[Noraa]

Nvm toog counted wrong then

[Noraa]

I have no interest in what you claim. I just wanna end this day and yeet another scum to the sun

[Noraa]

I disagree with a few thing but overall the readslist is really good.

[Noraa]

I think nolim is town.

Rock scum lean I can deal with. Rock is fairly null for me so scum lean there is alright.

Disagree with Hiraki town. I still SR there out of my two SRs from yesterday.

[Noraa]

^E-2

[Noraa]

Can I point out, all of Noraa's scum reads are people on the Herta wagon and all her town reads are people off the wagon

eyyyyy no.

I TR Nolim but neither geraint nor Rock.

[Noraa]

So in Noraa's world, all scum bussed yesterday when they could've easily jumped on the TGP wagon and gotten away with it

im assuming golden is green aorn and if that is true, all scum would've looked real bad just sitting on that wagon.

[Noraa]

This is me not hammering

Cmod refused to claim. did you see that? With you in the game, E-2 was intent and Cmod did not claim. Whats the wait for? Is it bc he has scum buddies to discuss a fake claim with? absolutely.

[Noraa]

Now when he's at E-1, he turns around and is like "oh yeah um oopsie forgot to say but Noraa is tunnely as town"

[Noraa]

before he just followed along and shaded me with Geraint suddenly now, he flips around?

[Noraa]

following along when he has town meta on me is already scummy af. I didn't think he would come and clarify that yes he did in fact notice I was 1000% in my town meta.

[Noraa]

NM, are the only two possible lims today cmod and nolim?
or do you think there are other possibilities?
cuz if we are only limming out of {nolim, cmod}, I will only accept a lim on cmod.

[Noraa]

Also even as town, your reads are so terrible, look at how hard you tunneled TGP yesterday and now today you're 100% sure that they're good.

I mean ok? The reason why my read flipped is because herta flipped red.

Golden isn't scum with Herta.

Hiraki is a different story. He could be scum with herta.

ur currently still scummier than both.

[Noraa]

I will only accept a lim that didn't vote on Herta today imo, anyone wanting to lim someone who was on the wagon is misguided or scum

Out of the ones that didn't vote Herta, Nolim and I are definitely town. Idk about Geraint and Rock but neither is a strong SR for me so I do think we lim on wagon today.

Why does it have to be off wagon cmod?

u can possibly think both scum were off wagon to make a Herta/geraint/rock team?

[Noraa]

Let's go Geraint, then.

do u prefer cmod or geraint?

[Noraa]

Let's go Geraint, then.

do u prefer cmod or geraint?

Geraint.

why?

[Noraa]

Not voted the goon.

any other reasons?

[Noraa]

If CM flips scum we need to kill NL or Not Mafia tomorrow prob
NM was ready to quick hammer Herta but he not doing that for CM/ Possible he hesitant bc he doesn't want to burn another scum buddy. Maybe biding his time and seeing if someone will jump off the wagon so he does not have to hammer. Not sure

NL- If you think CM is town ( tell me if i am wrong) then why vote for him. ? i am not understanding your play here?

im also a bit worried about NM not lolhammering Cmod.

[Noraa]

noraa do you think scum!cmod implies scum!NM

its possible

[Noraa]

Ok guys stop. Worstie vee cee us up. I need to check something.

no one vote yet because I have a case on why limming Cmod is better.

If we really are going to end day early, I want cmod dead.

[Noraa]

Lol anyone else remember yesterday when Noraa was saying the same about TGP?

This'll be entertaining

Lol anyone else remember yesterday when Noraa was saying the same about TGP?

This'll be entertaining

I have a cop clear on Nolim.
Everyone must think "Why didn't u choose Golden or Hiraki?"
Herta red with both Golden and Hiraki on wagon made me really worried I was wrong on them. I chose the scummiest one to check - nolim.
Even if I die tonight, I leave behind a conftown - nolim and that will force the scum team to kill nolim after me because my green means nolim is conftown.
There is close to zero possibility my check is incorrect because of my modifiers which I won't be revealing in case the scums do choose to leave me be tonight.
Scum might want to leave me alive as a gambit but I am far too dangerous for them to leave so I die tonight basically no matter what unless there's a doc.

Nolim is conftown and I want nolim to live as long as possible because the longer he lives, the more beneficial he is for town.

[Noraa]

*I chose the scummiest off wagon

[Noraa]

noraa what's your exact role

I don't wanna reveal but I have the exact same properties as a cop because of my modifiers.

If u need hints, my modifier might be something like loyal, etc.

[Noraa]

noraa what's your exact role

I don't wanna reveal but I have the exact same properties as a cop because of my modifiers.

If u need hints, my modifier might be something like loyal, etc.

I also have multiple modifiers soooooo

[Noraa]

Anyways. I'm not revealing more about my role but im basically a full fledged cop.

[Noraa]

Wtf is up with a quick hammer

LMFAO this is not a town quick hammered reaction.

We hit jackpot eh?

[Noraa]

Town quick hammered would be like "y'all suck ass. hope u rot in hell"

[Noraa]

I don't think I believe this claim tbh but whatever

VOTE: CMod1

Seriously the worst player!

Lolhammering without giving any intent, without asking if anyone has any info to counter Noraa and whilst also saying you don't trust Noraa's claim

Also, Noraa's claim has literally nothing to do with me, it's all to do with NL

{NL, you} is the limpool today. NL is cleared.

[Noraa]

OFC it has something to do with u.

[Noraa]

Lol ur scum aren't u?

[Noraa]

Meanwhile just letting those who actively pushed against the Herta wagon get away with things

if ur talking bout me, lol im boutta die tonight cuz im far too dangerous for scum to keep around.

[Noraa]

okay noraa if your role is something like disloyal checker then it's an inno but like. make COMPLETELY sure that mechanically you have an innocent please

I am 1000000000%

[Noraa]

Everyone must think "Why didn't u choose Golden or Hiraki?"

no because the only correct answer is why didn't you check N_M here

I think NM is town. Still do.

[Noraa]

Nope, you're now 2 for 2 on tunnelling hard on towns

And well done, you have just outed yourself as a cop with a dead doctor

Noraa, you're amazing at this game!

hm that's troublesome if ur not twilight trolling.

[Noraa]

okay noraa if your role is something like disloyal checker then it's an inno but like. make COMPLETELY sure that mechanically you have an innocent please

I am 1000000000%

it is 1000000% an inno. There'd have to be some really funky business with a bus driver to make my clear wrong.

[Noraa]

I've thought NM was town since a long time ago.

[Noraa]

Well Noraa, given that your reads have been wrong twice in a row...I think you shouldn't trust your reads

ur seriously a town doc?
tell me the truth.
ur dead anyway.

[Noraa]

Nope, you're voting Not_Maf tomorrow!

Given the clear on NL, Not_Maf probably quick hammered because the wagon could've easily shifted to them instead

Cmod. How about this. If you flip town, I'll consider checking NM tonight. No promises bc I still think he's town but I'll consider it.

[Noraa]

Nope, you're voting Not_Maf tomorrow!

Given the clear on NL, Not_Maf probably quick hammered because the wagon could've easily shifted to them instead

Cmod. How about this. If you flip town, I'll consider checking NM tonight. No promises bc I still think he's town but I'll consider it.

If NM is town, scum probs doesn't panic and lets me live but if NM is scum, that might be a very different story. Idk. WIFOM time!!!!

[Noraa]

SHHHH this game has been a mess. I always end up way too confident as pr :/

[Noraa]

At least I didn't roll vig :/
last time I rolled that, I shot two town prs

[Noraa]

[Noraa]

Y'all r lucky I rolled and investigative and am about to die night 2.

[Noraa]

Oh btw I misunderstood what Cmod was saying. I thought he was town doc. Just remembered Shoshin was town doc :/

Ok so Cmod is either a mafia member or a vt.

[Noraa]

SHHHH this game has been a mess. I always end up way too confident as pr :/

you should probably work to tone this down in the future, because it's an insanely easy PR tell if you do it often.

its not a pr tell. It's a town tell. Theres some differences between vt!me and pr!me but insane amounts of confidence can be present in either.

[Noraa]

It can also be not present in either. It depends.

[Noraa]

I wouldn't have claimed it just yet unless Nolim was truly in trouble (L-2)

got a bit impatient.

[Noraa]

I was getting cop vibes from you Noraa (see my read on you), but I thought it was me you scanned tbqh given your treatment of me entering the game.

didn't scan u.

[Noraa]

I never do that. Im kinda bad at hinting. My version of hinting is basically .... the equivalent of full claiming

[Noraa]

noraa, did you ever crumb?

pretty sure no. if there are any, it would probs just be my insistence that nolim is town all of today :/

[Noraa]

She was pretty obvious, though.

bruh don't ruin my dreams. I thought I was being super sneaky

...and then two of u tell me it was obvi as day >:(

[Noraa]

sorry

got impatient. Was worried Nolim was gunna die and I was like FUCK SHIT NO.

[Noraa]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I fooled the scums. Im bulletproof

[Noraa]

I am the town Notice watcher
I watched Noraa last night ........ either no one visited or I was role blocked.Given the set up roleblock seems odd but i guess its possible

No, I'm a novice jailkeeper and I was on noraa last night

welp that does it too. Thanks for the save ig? but I'm also bulletproof so eh.

[Noraa]

Well ok so probs shouldn't have revealed I'm bulletproof but no harm done because either way I just realized a few things that are important
1) I am 10000% conftown. If the solve was Noraa/Cmod/Herta, I NEVER clear my last partner's biggest counter wagon. Like that's just insanely stupid of me to do.
2) Considering that the scum's nk'ed me last night, it means that nolim is town. The reason is that 1) cmod had a huge annoyed scum reaction to me clearing Nolim and 2) if Nolim was scum, I wouldn't have gotten nk'ed cuz me alive means wrongly clearing nolim forever.
3) I regret to inform I am not a cop at all. There were some problems with me misinterpreting the role pm. It was worded kinda strangely which lead me to believe I was a cop when I am in fact, NOT a cop.

I'll explain more about my role in just a sec.

[Noraa]

Ok so basically last time in a game with NM I thought I had gotten the worst role possible, checker. It uh ... it gets even worse in the form of Visitor. I am a __ shot bulletproof loyal visitor.
I asked mod a shitload of questions about it and came out of the convo believing that if my action went thru, it meant the person was town and I wouldn't get a result pm. If the action didn't go thru, I hit scum and I would get a role pm.
This is in fact, not true.
visitor's don't get result pms no matter what jackshit happens to their action. This leads me to believe that 1) there is a role that can see if my action went thru or not and 2) the way to keep me not overpowered is that 2-3 prs are likely ascetic.
Shoshin being ascetic made that clear.
I want every single person that has the modifier ascetic to come out and say it now otherwise if I get a guilty on you, ur dead dead.
Basically another role is gonna verify if my action went thru and I'll know who it cleared/didnt clear.
The other role should not out today and just claim vanilla please.

[Noraa]

EVERYONE STOP VOTING. I need people to claim whether or not they are ascetic. If ascetic, that's alright and I'll expect a "guilty" on them. If not ascetic and there is a guilty, CONFSCUM.

[Noraa]

There has to be 2-3 ascetics for me not to be overpowered cuz me is bulletproof.
I is be expecting at least one more ascetic.

[Noraa]

Yeah town seems overpowered. I think the reason is that there are lots of ways our night results can be wrong. Idk about everyone else that's claimed pr but ik I'm conftown.
NM claiming to JK me doesn't rub me the right way and makes me think he might be scum.
Nolim is town bc I was the nk. I am not the nk if Nolim is scum cuz a cop wrongly clearing a scum is crucial for scum team. And if I copped a scum and got clear, that means I'm lying or my result had some problem. Either way I'm not longer a threat to scum if I clear the last scum, no?
Nolim is probtown for that.
Technically, nolim is not mechanically clear cuz I'm not a cop but Nolim is probtown still.

[Noraa]

Fuzzy's claim is very ... meh.

[Noraa]

I've been wondering what god tier level mafia member must be left for town to have a doc, two cops, a watcher, a JKer, and god knows what else.

[Noraa]

Seems very unbalanced no matter what so I'm almost like is the last scum just like an all knowing scum or something like a Roleblocker, Voyeur, Rolecop hybrid or some weird shit like that

[Noraa]

Wait what are all the current claims? someone sum it up for me?

[Noraa]

gimme the claimsssss
Nolim are you ascetic?

[Noraa]

Fuzzy literally scumslipped

link?

[Noraa]

NM- Rock is not confirmed town..... Only Geraint and Noraa.

?????????????????

[Noraa]

I am the town Notice watcher
I watched Noraa last night ........ either no one visited or I was role blocked.Given the set up roleblock seems odd but i guess its possible

No, I'm a novice jailkeeper and I was on noraa last night

ohhh there was a cc.

[Noraa]

well that's incredibly stupid. Is it really just that easy? The last scum is in {NM, fuzzy}?
That easy?
no fucking way.

[Noraa]

I am the town Notice watcher
I watched Noraa last night ........ either no one visited or I was role blocked.Given the set up roleblock seems odd but i guess its possible

No, I'm a novice jailkeeper and I was on noraa last night

Which she could confirm without you revealing.

I can't confirm unfortunately :/

[Noraa]

scum I am thinking wouldn't claim jailkeeper because they know noraa will be able to confirm if their night action was scopped

(I have got that right, haven't I?)

yeah it would be incredibly weird unless they had a role cop. Cuz NM claimed that before I came out and uh revealed my real role.

[Noraa]

Ok I want a full claim from everyone and who they targeted. If there's info to be withheld, you'll have to say why.
I am a 1 shot bulletproof loyal visitor.
NM claims to have JK'ed me last night so my bulletproof should still be there. If I ever die, it means that I did in fact use up my bulletproof last night and therefore, NM is the last scum who did not JK me last night.
N1 I visited nolim.
N2 I visited Hiraki.
Neither I get a night result from but if there's a role that can see if my action went thru or not that was on me either day, they can clear/guilty someone.

[Noraa]

You'll also have to forgive my skepticism of a bulletproof, jailkeeper, and doctor in a 12 man as well.

I am conftown. Noraa/Cmod/Herta. I NEVER clear Nolim yesterday when nolim is the largest counter to my scum buddy Cmod who is at E-1.
I may fake claim cop to stay alive but I never clear Nolim at that time. I clear like Golden or something.

[Noraa]

I am conftown for my play yesterday cuz it would be game throwing if I was scum. I would NEVER do that as scum. If you don't think I'm conftown, there's something wrong with the way ur thinking.

[Noraa]

As per my usual MO, I did actually hide my role in my first post in the game.

claim.

[Noraa]

claim!

[Noraa]

I want all the claims on the table. We've limmed 2 scum. We have nothing to lose.

[Noraa]

Doing a slow~ish reread between watching some

TV

in the background, so probably getting a few things

backwards

since I'm splitting my attention, but I'll get there.

dunno what that means.

[Noraa]

Oh.

[Noraa]

Nora's bulletproof actually weakens the investigative part of my role, If I jail scum and there's no kill, it could just be because of nora's bulletproof.

This is all irrelevant though, cos Fuzzy scumslipped

full claim please.

[Noraa]

Noraa - 1 shot bulletproof loyal visitor.
if I die, NM didn't JK me n2
Toog - vt
geraint - vt

[Noraa]

Im a lazy bum
fine I'll go comb the thread for claims.

[Noraa]

Noraa - 1 shot bulletproof loyal visitor.
if I die, NM didn't JK me n2
Toog - vt
geraint - vt
nolim - Joat
Clear on geraint and rock
Fuzzy - Novice watcher
Watched ___ n1,
Watched Noraa n2, no one visited

[Noraa]

NO VOTING.
we can prolly get 3 scum in a row if we just be patient. We have lots of time.

[Noraa]

Noraa - 1 shot bulletproof loyal visitor.
if I die, NM didn't JK me n2

Toog - vt

geraint - vt

nolim - Joat
Clear on geraint and rock

Fuzzy - Novice watcher
Watched ___ n1,
Watched Noraa n2, no one visited

NM - novice JKer
JKed ___ n1,
JKed Noraa n2

[Noraa]

Hiraki, Rock, Golden, claim.

[Noraa]

Do you know what Novice means?

yeah I'm dumb. can't act n1

[Noraa]

Noraa - 1 shot bulletproof loyal visitor.
if I die, NM didn't JK me n2

Toog - vt

geraint - vt

nolim - Joat
Clear on geraint and rock

Fuzzy - Novice watcher
Watched Noraa n2, no one visited

NM - novice JKer
JKed Noraa n2

[Noraa]

Also Geraint doesn't have a full clear

Geraint's either vt or maf doc

[Noraa]

Noraa - 1 shot bulletproof loyal visitor.
if I die, NM didn't JK me n2

Toog - vt

geraint - vt

nolim - Joat
Clear on rock
gunsmith clear on geraint

Fuzzy - Novice watcher
Watched Noraa n2, no one visited

NM - novice JKer
JKed Noraa n2

[Noraa]

mafia doctors don't have guns.

[Noraa]

Vote Fuzzy

I know when I have been caught

welp
VOTE: Fuzzy

[Noraa]

I have to be the worst scum of all time . Sorry to Taylor and Herta that you were stuck with me as scum. If you dont want to play with me anymore I understand

Good game

ur whole scum team just flopped over and died. its not really ur fault.

[Noraa]

well atleast Noraa got her wish

this is the first game that's gone this well for me ever O_O

[Noraa]

nah..I am the worst scum ever!!!!!!!

Day1 i was busy with school and jumped on the Herta wagon
Day2 was just a terrible Buss.

Might quit after this game........

aw no

[Noraa]

Noraa gambit was awesome and won the game. She def the MVP of the game

I was hoping to actually get a scum to claim ascetic
tysm this is the biggest honor besides being nk'ed

[Noraa]

Oh I was actually VT btw

bruh -________-

[Noraa]

Ok but mine wasn't actually a gambit. I legitimately thought I was a cop :/
I was trying to get the nk. Thats true. I was trying really hard to get the nk.

[Noraa]

Well because after n1, I asked shelly why I didn't get a night result and she said something like "you don't get a pm if the action is successful"
I misinterpreted it and thought that meant the action WAS successful.
But no, its that I never get a pm telling me whether or not the action is successful. I am never informed.

[Noraa]

Anyways I was thinking about saying I was a 2 shot bulletproof to make sure I didn't actually die but then I believed nm so I yeah eh whatever.
This game was wild. I tunneled a lot of town :3
sorry guys!

[Noraa]

Hiraki O_O I called u an ice cube :>>>>>
Golden :3 I think I called u a scum bucket O_O

[Noraa]

oopsies O_O

[Noraa]

Cmod was literally caught for all the wrong reasons :/
I figured he was extremely mad about it and told the remaining scum to scum me which is why I figured the remaining scum couldn't have been Nolim.

[Noraa]

*to nk

[Noraa]

He had that one post that said "well now ur gonna have a dead doc and cop"

[Noraa]

I love how I didn't actually catch a single scum this game. It's impressive.
I need to get a scummie for worst town play ever lmfao

[Noraa]

I was being a bit harsh on myself as well i think

ur whole team flopped over and died. if anything u were the best player out of the 3

[Noraa]

I love how I didn't actually catch a single scum this game. It's impressive.
I need to get a scummie for worst town play ever lmfao

i think this misses the point. you were one of the main participants in strong town synergy that led to first herta's death, then cmod's, then fuzzy for the win.

like imagine if you had pushed just a little bit harder on me d1

phew thank god my tunneling scared everyone off of u. It would've been useless if u died day 1. We would've gotten nothing out of it :/

[Noraa]

Thank you mod for hosting!!!!
Shelly this was ur first modded game and I loved it. Depending on all the claims, I might say it was a bit town sided but that's the setup spec folks' faults so ur good.

[Noraa]

also gg. This was a rollercoaster of a game

[Noraa]

yeah but 2 goons and 1 watcher for scum up against a bunch of prs mmmmm

[Noraa]

the JOAT and a doc. and a bulletproof useless Noraa.

[Noraa]

oooooooooof.

[Noraa]

Ty mod for hosting!

[Noraa]

gg everyone!
post game discussion ended earlier but eh

[Noraa]

Yeah you were dealt a pretty bad hand.

[Noraa]

Does infinity just spectate all games on site?

[Noraa]

I carried, yw

<.<
:3
U-U

[Noraa]

Oh, phew.

[Noraa]

can I be a duck too?

yes! just remember to eat bread crumbs, swim around and practice quacking every day and you'll be a duck in no time!

QUACK QUACK
can this go into my wiki?

[Noraa]

I do not want the scum thread open.

aw ok
I really wanted to see it