BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me [END]

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

I don't mind dumping Ari, if only so he can focus on classes and get better grades lol

also him hard ditching the thread as soon as pressure was off is weak AF

hmm so we're commuter fiesta this game

[Shoshin]

Imagine five town commuters. The game ends in a town win or a draw 100% of the time, as long as town don't lynch the commuters. This seems like an unfair challenge for scum. How do scum win this? They have to convince town to lynch the commuters. I guess that's plausible but it just seems like this isn't the type of play that Flavor would like -- he's not trying to force scum to play just one strategy, unless I'm wrong about him?

[Shoshin]

I don't mind dumping Ari, if only so he can focus on classes and get better grades lol

also him hard ditching the thread as soon as pressure was off is weak AF

hmm so we're commuter fiesta this game

Lynch Gamma first because regardless Ari's flip, Gamma's likely scum. If Ari flips town, we still need to lynch Gamma.

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Nikk - Vanilla Townie
Alchemist21 - Town Miller
Elsa Jay - Mafia Goon
Chara - Town Miller
Maki Harukawa - Town Desperate Neighborizer*
Vedith -- Informed Mafia Goon
Clemency -- Town Multitasking Two-Shot Doctor Two-Shot Roleblocker
Wisdom -- Town Rolecop
Jingle -- Mafia Willbooster^
Nero Cain -- Town miller, survives!
Pink Ball -- Vanilla townie, survives!
Kaito Momota -- Vanilla townie, survives!
Nancy Drew 39 -- Town miller, survives!
Creature -- Town backup rolecop, survives!

for reference, here's the under the sea setup

that's 4 millers with rolecop

obviously "commuter" is a much more powerful role than miller, and I think this does also dramatically increase the likelihood of scum ascetic/commuter

if so maybe shelly's claim would be the weakest of the bunch? or your own. but I don't think 5 town commuters is outside the realm of possibility if scum have a variant that's like "lol commuters get pwned"

[Shoshin]

Scum either kill the commuters via role, or Sam's scum, or Gypyx is scum. That's my take.

Shelly's town. I don't think scum bussed that hard for no reason.

[Shoshin]

Behavior-wise, Gypyx/Sam are two of the scummiest players in the game. If I had to chart a path to victory for town, it involves lynching Gamma. If Gamma's town, we assume Ari as town & lynch one of Gypyx/Sam. If Gamma's scum, we lynch Ari.

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

there was a scum enchantress in a game although it was gated. I still think sam is town tho

I think it's incredibly likely scum have a universe-flavored strongman

actually I can buy that you're not groupscum more easily now, can you describe the message you got more? based on the title of the game I would have expected some sort of messenger role in the game

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

I wonder if Boon is trying to redo the setup from Boon Wars game 3 where scum couldn't kill anyone unless they were in a parallel universe; if that was the case then actually scum would have to have an enchantress lol

(still think sam is town just playing setup spec games with myself)

[Shoshin]

If another commuter dies at night, we assume Gypyx/Sam are town. I don't think this will happen, though it might if Gamma/Ari are in fact scum -- they will kill me probably.

[Shoshin]

I don't care to describe my message at this time. Do you think messenger is town or scum?

[Boonskiies]

Day 2

Vote Count 2.07

BrightEyedFish [2]:

Happy Birthday Boonskiies, Bell,

Aristophanes [2]:

Shellyc, TheGoldenParadox

Shoshin [2]:

Samantha97, Gamma Emerald

Bell [1]:

BrightEyedFish

Samantha97 [1]:

Ydrasse,

Gamma Emerald [1]:

Shoshin

Not Voting [3]:

Aristophanes, Gypyx, Happy Unbirthday Boon,

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December 4th.

Mod Notes

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[Boonskiies]

@Boonskiees, can the town magical fairy self-target?

Pelican self-targeting would mean the kill would resolve on their slot even if they were targeted by enchantress.

UNVOTE: for now

No self targeting unless stated in Role PM.

@boon is there any way multiple variant/bank roles can be crammed into one slot, such as repeating the same role?

The Boon Bank role can have modifiers, any additional Boon Bank roles or new roles would be considered a Variant.

[Shoshin]

If you trust I'm town, HUB, maybe you can trust my reads more? I know it's been a year but my first game back, I caught the whole scum team on D1. So I dunno, I still think my reads are worth giving some weight, even of you don't understand or follow my logic.

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

I don't care to describe my message at this time. Do you think messenger is town or scum?

I had a thought earlier that there was probably going to be a messenger in the game and that it would be likely to be scum but I don't remember why I had that thought. I think it was around the same time I was waiting for the friendly neighbor message confirmation or something like that. Commuters + messengers sounds like something boon would design, especially with the title

as far as your alignment goes though, I think that you received a message probably points to non-groupscum as scum probably would have activated nico's commute on her behalf

[Shoshin]

Yep. Me receiving a message is Nico's gift to us all.

[Shoshin]

My message indicated that someone is town. Should I believe this? I dunno. Why message Nico? That's a curious question.

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

No self targeting unless stated in Role PM.

imo this basically confirms one of two scenarios:
-Sam town
-Sam scum and scum strongman is conditional on other-universe, in which case her pelican commute was necessary for the strongman to go through

I just don't know I want to flip that coin today tbh, I'd rather revisit those options

unfortunately my hard town read on sam for implying a pelican self-target is kinda gutted

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

My message indicated that someone is town. Should I believe this? I dunno. Why message Nico? That's a curious question.

yeah if it's not a friendly neighbor message that sounds like scum messenger, town probably makes a joke or something, although I've been wrong about enough other things this game already...

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

hmm I want to ask sam if she's gated but if she's really a town protect she shouldn't answer the question lol

[Shoshin]

I think you're ignoring the possibility that Sam is scum who didn't target Pelican at all.

[Shoshin]

Anyway, I'm very confident on Gamma flipping scum, regardless of Sam/Ari/BEF alignment. Please trust this & take another look at Gamma's posting.

[Ydrasse]

UNVOTE:

oooooookay

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

sure, I'll try to revisit his iso later tonight before I pass out

[Ydrasse]

i have no clue what the fuck to think about samantha anymore because like, why pelican of all people that doesn't make sense to me but neither does this game having that many commuters

[Ydrasse]

like her role is probably real?? because it's not just a regular commuter but like, ugh

i got messed up by someone claiming a protective once and they were scum