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[Iconeum]

you decide if that's outguessing the mod or not

[Iconeum]

yo peta IIRC you said that midway is way out of his scumrange here, yet you seem to be pushing them like you scumread them?

[Iconeum]

It seems like Gamma and DV are putting it all on the table today and their contingency plan is f3 with me vs Ico.

your solve is me + gamma + DV?

you think i'm gonna be bussing both of my teammates here, instead of working on a town flip and just win the game in scum!Ico world?

[Iconeum]

i don't understand the logic gamma is pushing wrt literally all scum piling onto a counter wagon (and a town pr at that)

[Iconeum]

DV claimed PR?

i might have explained that badly

->i mean, why would scum pile onto a wagon, leading away from a claimed pr (tracker/motion detecter, so a fairly strong one at that), to flip a claimed VT?

[Iconeum]

i could see scum dividing themselves among t/t wagons, but all 3 in this scenario?

that's a stretch to say the least

[Iconeum]

nothing feels completely right with that ABR townflip

ngl, none of my solves give me a 'this is it' feeling

[Iconeum]

but sure, shade me all you want

[Iconeum]

Does anyone have strong feelings that Ico is town? Ico's always given me a town feel here and seems to be one of the more townread slots throughout but going with Ico town probably ends up leaving me with a Gamma/MWB/Dunn scumteam which doesn't quite

FEEL

right.

This reads like ur shopping for a flip, or like

testing the waters where you can push

'hey guys i do townread this ico fella buuuuuuuut…'

[Iconeum]

weekend VLA soon

[Iconeum]

i took a shower and my thoughts were that probably one of the remaining PR claims is fake, and there's at least 1 in midway/gamma

this is your response to my question on why you think it’s ico/dv/gamma if dv is scum? It’s not me because I drove the DV wagon so it’s ico, the only remaining PR, and it’s not midway because dv/midway aren’t aligned, and definitely not Dunnstral for the same reason?

I agree with that logic up to mwb, and think we need to re-examine that slot

peta i think you’re town and if you vote town today we are completely screwed, not to stress you out more but we cannot vote a townie today or like ever

because i don't think that kind of last minute flashwagon on dv happens if a teammate is bussing him, otherwise they would just sit on abr

and midway is such a low confidence player as scum that jumping off a wagon on a town pr to vote a teammate would be completely out of character for him

@peta, did i misread this?
doesn't it imply you think mdw 'wouldn't do that as scum'?

[Iconeum]

Does anyone have strong feelings that Ico is town? Ico's always given me a town feel here and seems to be one of the more townread slots throughout but going with Ico town probably ends up leaving me with a Gamma/MWB/Dunn scumteam which doesn't quite

FEEL

right.

This reads like ur shopping for a flip, or like

testing the waters where you can push

'hey guys i do townread this ico fella buuuuuuuut…'

thoughts?

[Iconeum]

i don't think wifom means what you think it means

[Iconeum]

you think a genuine town thought is like

'hey guys i townread ico but does anyone scumread ico so i can push there'

ok it's a liberal interpretation but it's how i read that

[Iconeum]

why would you wanna ignore it if you think it's slimey

[Iconeum]

absolutely lol

[Iconeum]

i see your point about why town!DV would say that, but it really didn't 'bring me that message'

[Iconeum]

Rawr!

[Iconeum]

not a single page added over the weekend and a triple prod?

[Iconeum]

you think i'm gonna be bussing both of my teammates here, instead of working on a town flip and just win the game in scum!Ico world?

Your teammates are working on the town flip, and you are the backup plan.

what the fuck does this even mean?

you think i'm scum, who is sitting out on scumhunting and i am the backup 'to bus' plan or???

[Iconeum]

Town is demotivated
Scum doesn’t want gamestate to change
So nothing is happening

gamma if everyone were here right now, and they threw down a vote

who do you think gets a majority of votes?

[Iconeum]

I’m thinking about role functionality and I feel like disloyal hider would be weird for scum to fakeclaim or trueclaim
So I don’t think it’s IV atp
Wanna vote dunn tbh, he has not impressed at all and Noraa was widely scumread iirc

well if i thought IV was fakeclaiming i'd be all over their asses today so…

i'm looking for exactly 1 more town

[Iconeum]

Town is demotivated
Scum doesn’t want gamestate to change
So nothing is happening

gamma if everyone were here right now, and they threw down a vote

who do you think gets a majority of votes?

Me probably

i think so too, and like

simple math says that means ur town because scum are obviously content with how this is progressing so…

that means

mdw/DV/dunn?

[Iconeum]

in order of certainty in scumread that would be smt like

DV
dunn
mdw

[Iconeum]

I'd like to vote gamma today

I think right now I’m at gamma or midway

I don't think scum!DV is going to be throwing out a solve including *both* buddies, right?

[Iconeum]

oh look

DV and dunn pushing for gamma?

[Iconeum]

where's peta and IV

[Iconeum]

i feel like the town solve is gonna be real close when i say ico/peta/iv/gamma here

[Iconeum]

are 2 out of 3 scum really gonna be bussing their partner when there's a competing town wagon available is what i'm wondering here

(DV v ABR previous day)

both mdw and dunn were on DV, with DV being on ABR

[Iconeum]

that would make a ton more sense with either of mdw or dunn being town

if there' a

[Iconeum]

*if there's a deepwolf in peta for instance, then so be it

maybe that can be worked out with a solid flip here

[Iconeum]

Everyone who doesn't wanna vote DV

speak now

[Iconeum]

I could be persuaded, but I'm not convinced right now

I'm reconsidering some things. I think the scumteam is Gamma/Iconeum/Midwaybear, or something close to that. The way Iconeum has treated both of our slots today feels very agenda driven, and like he's going for the win today

Gamma has a really bad solve (me/IV/mwb) and is transparently not playing as his town self

Midwaybear is poe, but he's arguing that the team is Gamma/Ico/you, so.... this read seems dubious

I'm acknowledging that this means I've had bad reads on you, Iconeum, and maybe MWB throughout this game. I think I misunderstood something with the prs that made Iconeum seem more likely town - I didn't realize IV was also claiming a pr, and it's possible for Iconeum's role to be scum aligned even if it's true

if you have problems with how i solved your slots, why don't you start responding to *any* of the posts i made where i'm actuallyt trying to solve this shit?

[Iconeum]

dunn, how is your vote on gamma not exactly agenda driven?

it's literally scum!you going for the win here, knowing other people outed their intent to vote gamma

[Iconeum]

I'm reconsidering some things. I think the scumteam is Gamma/Iconeum/Midwaybear, or something close to that. The way Iconeum has treated both of our slots today feels very agenda driven, and like he's going for the win today

so you think the 'solve' is midway, who wants to vote gamma today
me, who does nothing to step in and save either buddy here
or gamma, a slot that i'm doing what with exactly? fake solving?

[Iconeum]

I'm acknowledging that this means I've had bad reads on you, Iconeum, and maybe MWB throughout this game. I think I misunderstood something with the prs that made Iconeum seem more likely town - I didn't realize IV was also claiming a pr, and it's possible for Iconeum's role to be scum aligned even if it's true

you wanna start talking about how scum!me just let a CONFIRMED TOWN live throughout N2, and instead killed Datisi (who was townreading me)?

yeah that's totally my play as scum this game...

[Iconeum]

you wanna start talking about how scum!me just happily claimed information about not one, not two, but THREE power roles and put myself in a corner with that? where is my agenda exactly?

[Iconeum]

I didn't realize IV was also claiming a pr, and it's possible for Iconeum's role to be scum aligned even if it's true

this information has been available for most of the game
town!you would have questioned my claim ages ago

coming out with 'oh look now i think ico's claim might actually be scum' is so bad
if this is town!you, you need to come to your senses and work with me

[Iconeum]

IV/peta are prob town
gamma is like prob town as well
Dunn/DV/mdw/ is probably the solve, or there is a huge error in my actual townreads

[Iconeum]

Spoiler: dunn reads

My current reads look like this:

[Vp Batlar, Iconeum]
[innocentvillager]
[midwaybear, petapan]
[Gamma Emerald, DeasVail]
[ABR]

I am inclined to believe that midwaybear and petapan aren't both scum together

They're neutral to me otherwise, I kind of like midway's posts but I'm not sure if posting like this is in character for him when he's town

[Vp Baltar, Iconeum]
[innocentvillager, midwaybear]
[petapan, Gamma Emerald]
[DeasVail]
[ABR]

Let's say my reads are like this instead

VOTE: DeasVail

lim-1

Theoretically, it's better to try to find a mafia roleblocker, and I'd always want to elim DV next anyway. If DV flips goon it's likely that I'm going to go for ABR again tomorrow.

Also I don't think it's iconeum

my eod (preflip) reads were like

gamma/peta
IV
mdw
DV/dunnstrall (noraa slot)

You're making a mistake, it's not me

It's very likely DV, also probably Gamma at this point since there's an extra mafia in the poe now

I'm reading Ico, IV, peta as town here

dunn how did you go from having DV as your strongest scumread (other then ABR), into voting DV onto E-1, into

working together with him on solves outside of (DV)?

[Iconeum]

Spoiler: dunn reads

My current reads look like this:

[Vp Batlar, Iconeum]
[innocentvillager]
[midwaybear, petapan]
[Gamma Emerald, DeasVail]
[ABR]

I am inclined to believe that midwaybear and petapan aren't both scum together

They're neutral to me otherwise, I kind of like midway's posts but I'm not sure if posting like this is in character for him when he's town

[Vp Baltar, Iconeum]
[innocentvillager, midwaybear]
[petapan, Gamma Emerald]
[DeasVail]
[ABR]

Let's say my reads are like this instead

VOTE: DeasVail

lim-1

Theoretically, it's better to try to find a mafia roleblocker, and I'd always want to elim DV next anyway. If DV flips goon it's likely that I'm going to go for ABR again tomorrow.

Also I don't think it's iconeum

my eod (preflip) reads were like

gamma/peta
IV
mdw
DV/dunnstrall (noraa slot)

You're making a mistake, it's not me

It's very likely DV, also probably Gamma at this point since there's an extra mafia in the poe now

I'm reading Ico, IV, peta as town here

dunn how did you go from having DV as your strongest scumread (other then ABR), into voting DV onto E-1, into

working together with him on solves outside of (DV)?

[Iconeum]

oops

[Iconeum]

ico can you please please explain why gamma is town

i go away for a weekend
literally nothing happens

gamma was prime suspect
-> scum also not doing anything -> scum happy -> gamma town

[Iconeum]

if gamma were scum
and he was the prime target for misflip, scum arent going to stand by watching the clock tick down

they are gonna work on getting someone else flipped

[Iconeum]

so if gamma is a prime suspect as town why didn’t gamma do anything?

true, and beats me

being apathic towards the game i imagine

--

then I come back from weekend VLA, start pushing DV
dunn and DV get in, start pushing Gamma

While dunn had been hard scumreading DV as seen in my prior post because?????

[Iconeum]

if gamma were scum
and he was the prime target for misflip, scum arent going to stand by watching the clock tick down

they are gonna work on getting someone else flipped

And that's where you come in

gamma is at least looking like he's trying to solve stuff
Dunn is now literally working together with his previous scumread without any actual cause for that (that i can see)

[Iconeum]

so tbh, part of the reason I lurked over the weekend on purpose was because I wanted to see who gave a fuck and didn’t give a fuck

It’s clear that scum didn’t do jackshit

one of those players was gamma emerald

I don’t think gamma emerald gives a fuck about this game and has resigned to their elimination

And I don’t think that is a towny mindset

there *literally* has to be town in the players that aren't giving a fuck, you realize that right?

[Iconeum]

I think the act that Dunn and DV are pulling here is a lot more glaring then Gamma's fuck all towards this game

[Iconeum]

ellitelling?

[Iconeum]

tbh the only reason I townread Dunn is because I totwmread noraa

read Dunn's iso

look how they went from scum!DV to town!DV

it doesn't make sense

[Iconeum]

oh i see

[Iconeum]

who's your (strong?) townreads rn IV

[Iconeum]

im not wording this well but what i mean is that, if DV is town, scum's agenda is certainly to set up DV for a miselim, regardless of how they try to do that

one such vector, that I'm positing above, is that they bus Gamma, gamma flips (so gamma is intentionally giving up rn to set up the narrative for Gamma/DV/? team), then we flashwagon DV the next day to stall Ico v MWB, and then scum wins on DV's flip

VOTE: dunn

i'm town

DV and dunn are scum

[Iconeum]

I'm town

Here's the thing...

I don't think midway and peta are scum together

Which means it would be to be one of those two, plus gamma, plus iconeum

And that seems less likely to me than it being you

So yes @iconeum

I'm wondering if we've both been town this whole time

I started reconsidering things here

there is literally

*nothing*

in there that could change your mind so completely around, unless it's faked

a simple 'oh it was *this* post'?

lol

[Iconeum]

sorry that was supposed to be spoilered

anyway, the people who have been coasting today are:

innocentvillager (partly on purpose)
Iconeum (not even, just V/LA)
petapan (idk, he's just been paranoia/unsure or is faking it)
Dunnstral (but this is typical NAI Dunnstral)
midwaybear - they're ready to vote/have the solve and haven't been trying to push more discussion
DeasVail - they've been coasting all game, acknowledging that they haven't really done a ton this game, but still continuing to coast
Gamma - has given up

Dunn hasn't really coasted, they have pushed their scumread from DV away into Gamma, now teaming up with their prior top scumread because ??
peta's been ?? for sure, but i just see a lost townie there
mdw is either straight out scum or a newbie town here. I've seen both in players before.
DV has absolutely been coasting all game, and IIRC he isn't even surprised about Dunn's change of heart?
Gamma at least tried to reach out to me and work things through, which is more then I can say about most of these live players

[Iconeum]

peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of view, the above is a scum claim

?????

[Iconeum]

peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of view

Peta is voting for Gamma, everyone has since posted, and there has been no hammer

have you

even read the game before this?

[Iconeum]

you know, the one where scum (who were certain of victory) blew their game up by doing that?

[Iconeum]

my best shot at a solve is

ico/gamma/IV/peta

and hope for the best

[Iconeum]

peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of view

Peta is voting for Gamma, everyone has since posted, and there has been no hammer

there are a multitude of reasons for scum to not orchestrate hammer

[Iconeum]

@peta

work with me here man

do you see why my solve works? it's most likely NOT gamma...
come to your senses please, or talk to me why gamma IS scum??

[Iconeum]

#IV, same for you

[Iconeum]

my gut is screaming at me that gamma is the losing play here

[Iconeum]

anyone have recent scumgame experience with ico?

The slot has a towny vibe but I wonder if he gives off this similar vibe as scum

viewtopic.php?f=83&t=84842

my most recent scumgame

[Iconeum]

gamma/iconeum/midway could be the solve hm

i think im feeling gamma/midway as probable scum and DV/Iconeum has the hard f3 choice now

gamma literally has no agenda in his play

scummy vibe from giving up? I get that
but he tried to reach out and work with me... vs DV and Dunn who magically alligned their reads all of a sudden?

come oooonnnnnnnn

[Iconeum]

anyway to continue analysis on Gamma, this is scum!Gamma from a game that literally just finished

gamma tried hard D1, posted a lot, did some convincing solving posturing that made me loltownbin them for solviness and breaking emotional scumrange, and even had this little fakeass blowup at our D1 town wagon (not dissimilar to what he did he with Shoshin).

the posting gradually got less and less involved, more sideliny, to the point where it seemed like he was just phoning it in. my townread deteriorated here over time

then, as scum were essentially cornered near the end (starting with me guiltying scum 1 out of 4 Glitch, starts in the spoiled ISO below), he's like, completely given up, and lolpushed a weird "existence of a traitor" gambit for one post

i have an easier time reconciling behavior in this game with scum!gamma from Large 230 than town!gamma from Mini 2171

Spoiler: scum Gamma posting in Large Normal 230

VOTE: Glitch
yeah dead slot is dead

The claims have been posted several times so missing them is just willful ignorance at this point

again there are SCUM ROLES that return NO GUN

mafia doctor and mafia traitor
you want me to go dropping fact bombs again? I'll freaking do it

does gunsmith make sense?

>:/

i have nothing to offer as counter argument other then my previously stated reasons for feeling town gamma here...

[Iconeum]

im struggling from severe confbias

im starting to read DV latest posting as kind of towny

ur the fucking deepwolf, ain't you

is this literally IV/DV/Dunn? Does that even make sense?

[Iconeum]

theory is that MWB/Gamma/Ico are praying we go Gamma -> DV -> MWB v Ico and are setting up the Ico v MWB on f3 to make us think we're on the right track there, but hopefully running through DV on D5

it makes more sense to for scum to set up DV as a miselimination, especially with DV as the counterwagon to Albert on d5

this makes a lot of sense for a scum agenda, actually

nice theory

how does my hard defense of gamma fit in here? for this to actually be a thing, i'd be bussing gamma already, no?

[Iconeum]

im not wording this well but what i mean is that, if DV is town, scum's agenda is certainly to set up DV for a miselim, regardless of how they try to do that

one such vector, that I'm positing above, is that they bus Gamma, gamma flips (so gamma is intentionally giving up rn to set up the narrative for Gamma/DV/? team), then we flashwagon DV the next day to stall Ico v MWB, and then scum wins on DV's flip

sure, and i'm just straight up denying the bus as scum, who are setting up said bus? ???????

[Iconeum]

meanwhile, datisi even softed being a PR on D2, and im sure the scumteam can think of reasons to kill Datisi potential strong PR like Ascetic X over lol!FriendlyNeighbor. we don't have all the information as town, maybe they're informed, maybe XYZ idefk.

actually didn't ico explicitly say he thought datisi was ascetic lmao

yes, he did say that

as either alignment, he thought Datisi could have been Ascetic X

Datisi is a strong player and potentially could've been a huge asset to helping us solve today too, and Iconeum knows that as well

im saying there's plenty of reasons for us to not clear Iconeum on his claimed nightplay

i'm not saying my nightplay and claims fully or auto clear me, i'm saying they heavily suggest that

and 'just' a conftown? Not a thing. I knew this was gonna be a heavy pr game before entering (knowing gypyx as a mod). A CONFIRMEABLE townie is a HUGE kill. A datisi that is townreading me is a HUGE asset for scum!me.

autoclear? no
town!indicative? i think yes

[Iconeum]

i get that these are two separate points in the game, but this interaction definitely pinged meso im like, completely within my scumrange from 2175 on D2, suggesting that he's thinking about that game when evaluating me a lotthe next day, he's clearly been thinking about (or at least pretending to think about) my alignmentthen when i bring up the self-meta point how this is out of my scumrange, he immediately goes, "oh yeah, fair point, you're liekly to be town"it pings because the first quote suggests that he is considering 2175 to evaluate me strongly, but somehow in reading me in between those time periods, im still a strong candidate for scum. Then all i have to do is bring the scumrange argument up again, and he flips 180 on me? really? im supposed to believe that he hasn't been thinking about my play in relation to 2175 this whole time, and only now was reminded of it?it's certainly possible from town!ico, but i have to admit that this pinged me and reads as not a genuine read on me

so a weak reason to switch my read on you is scum!indicative of me

but ZERO reason from dunn to switch reads on DV is town!indicative?

gtfo

[Iconeum]

i'm a 1shot rb

that would be so funny if this was an actual scumslip

it is confirmed that i knew i was blocked N1...

[Iconeum]

sure i mean gamma is just scum at this point, for many reasons

lately it's the fact that the sharp bite in his tone seems to be more personally/communication fueled rather than actual game-content fueled, which is absolutely not a townie-mindset when you're about to be elimmed in lylo

i'm literally townreading you less with every single post you write

[Iconeum]

The more I think about it, the more I am coming around to Dunn being town.

Obvious and clear 'readschange' right?

[Iconeum]

no but i think the way he reacted isn't how town would react

The fact that he isn't being quick voted here confirms him as scum anyway

SCUM ARE NOT OBLIGED TO QUICKHAMMERRRRRRRR

[Iconeum]

peta or gamma have to be scum from your point of view, the above is a scum claim

this is simply untrue

a lie

a false statement

name it what you will

[Iconeum]

Stop. If IV and DV were both scum, they would have hammered on page 118. IV has more than enough justification to place down a vote without looking like he's quickhammering.

You're forgoing logic to try to spin a last second case because your whole team was caught out

I don't think IV and DV are both scum?

[Iconeum]

come at me bruh

let's show who's the town here

[Iconeum]

No worries IV. I realise I may have been a bit obstructive.

You’re right about that being the scumteam I think is most likely. I’m most confident in mwb being scum and probably least confident in gamma right now.

The more I think about it, the more I am coming around to Dunn being town.

I have mild paranoia about peta, but only mild.
I also have mild paranoia about you.

I can’t do a super clear ordering of who I would put as replacement scum out of you/peta/Dunn as it kind of changes in my head. And it would be a particularly harsh blow if Dunn is actually scum and I’ve been convinced out of it. But, I would like to think that my re-evaluation has been for the better rather than for the worse

@IV do you not see the pocket equity in this post??

[Iconeum]

are you really going to spin like that is my solve rn?

[Iconeum]

who's your daddy

[Iconeum]

my best shot at a solve is

ico/gamma/IV/peta

and hope for the best

this stands

[Iconeum]

Stop. If IV and DV were both scum, they would have hammered on page 118. IV has more than enough justification to place down a vote without looking like he's quickhammering.

You're forgoing logic to try to spin a last second case because your whole team was caught out

who am i trying to spin a 'last second case' on?

[Iconeum]

I'm town

Here's the thing...

I don't think midway and peta are scum together

Which means it would be to be one of those two, plus gamma, plus iconeum

And that seems less likely to me than it being you

So yes @iconeum

I'm wondering if we've both been town this whole time

I started reconsidering things here

*why* did you start reconsidering things here?

[Iconeum]

you realize that a dunn/dv/midway team probably hammers my vote here, right

not to mention that the end of day 3 is patently absurd from that perspective

i'd say there is an under 20% chance of them actually doing that

[Iconeum]

i guess you're hoping to paranoia someone onto dunn today b/c people were getting too close to naming the team? lmao

wait you scumread me????

[Iconeum]

i'm fucking done then lol

[Iconeum]

i guess you're hoping to paranoia someone onto dunn today b/c people were getting too close to naming the team? lmao

wait you scumread me????

everyone is scum and i'm the last surviving town

probably close to the truth at this point

HOW IS DUNN TOWN HERE

[Iconeum]

gg

[Iconeum]

gets scared of what lol

dunn is openwolfing with their reads and nobody is even slightly interested

[Iconeum]

im struggling from severe confbias

im starting to read DV latest posting as kind of towny

ur the fucking deepwolf, ain't you

is this literally IV/DV/Dunn? Does that even make sense?

why does IV claim disloyal hider as scum
like it's not even a case comparable to a role mastina had in a upick (scum disloyal gladiator) where it makes sense as a wifom claim + potentially eternal bid for time
It just, doesn't seem to have scum utility, compared to the town utility of being able to be tracked to scum

its more being annoyed then legit scumreading them...

[Iconeum]

same?

[Iconeum]

uh oh busted

[Iconeum]

DV, if you had a change of heart around Dunn

what triggered it?

[Iconeum]

lmao why would I signal for the quickhammer attempt in the main thread instead of the scum pt

[Iconeum]

quickhammering a slot at E-1? probably

E-2 or E-3? not quite i think

plus you'd have to have similar online hours

[Iconeum]

[Iconeum]

that was @IV, not DV

[Iconeum]

PEdit: regarding Dunn, it really was the ABR flip and the shock of that (although it probably shouldn’t have been in hindsight) that really caused me to rethink things. I had ABR and Noraa/Dunn as a team that made so much sense in my eyes at the time. And for the reasons I thought Dunn made so much sense as a partner for ABR (dismissing him as caught scum, then moving off him to vote me) I thought Dunn made less sense after the flip

look at least you have a reason for townreading them

they don't have on for switching their read on you, other then 'it was from this post' or smt

and the fact you aren't extremely paranoid about that makes me feel ur the partner, outside of the rest of the game

[Iconeum]

i'm looking at what scum's play is today

1 townflip and they win

Dunn coming into today 'oh yeah ehm, my previous scumread of DV is gone, it's probably gamma guys'

DV: 'oh yeah, cool let's gettim'

how do you think that is looking for me?

especially after other players expressing their desire to vote there today

[Iconeum]

a distraction of what

fucking lol

[Iconeum]

mind answering my previous questions or you gonna keep openwolfing here bruh

[Iconeum]

how certain is everyone that scum would just have quickhammered town!gamma here?

[Iconeum]

DV isn't trying to work with me or DV by asking questions, he's trying to discredit us so somebody freaks out and votes there

i'm not discrediting you

i'm calling you a scumbut straight up in your face while ur ignoring me

[Iconeum]

literally the one who's doing the discrediting here is you

g
t
f
o

[Iconeum]

unexplained reads change to suit an obvious agenda
not wanting to engage
discrediting me without substance

HOW IS THIS NOT OBVIOUS OPENWOLFIN

[Iconeum]

ok i'll just vote gamma then

[Iconeum]

because he's obviously scum right

IV

are you reading my posts and just not agreeing with me? are you seeing what i'm saying?

or is this literaly hopeless

[Iconeum]

simple math says that if ur *that* sure about scumerald, you'd have voted there by now

hence, ur not as sure as you are saying

which means part of what i'm saying is getting thru, right?

[Iconeum]

im reading your posts and i don't see why the Dunn/DV thing has to be scum blitzing

it could be real

but you don't even think twice about what i'm saying could be real

[Iconeum]

it's also just kind of an unnecessary risk that they would have had to have taken at start of day

but you don't even consider the risk that scum!me would be taking by night actions and claim play

duuuuudddeeeee

[Iconeum]

skipping the opportunity to kill off a CONFIRMEABLE townie in what is suspected to be a high #pr game, potentially having protection on them later in the game in whatever form (docters, watchers etc)

instead going for what is *probably* a pr that is unknown to me

yeah

[Iconeum]

do i need to Rawr! this town into waking up?

[Iconeum]

ok last shot

Does nobody find it strange that EVERY OTHER SLOT OUTSIDE OF ME AND GAMMA is fine by yeeting gamma?

[Iconeum]

i don't have anything to add to my cases here, other then going around in circles

as for your 'elaborate please'

your point is that scum are setting up gamma to bus
your point is that i'm scum
i'm clearly not setting up gamma to bus
?????

i can't fight 5 other people on my own here
i can handle 1 or 2 scumbuts
but not 5

[Iconeum]

i really don't have the patience to wake up and wade through 50 posts of pure noise from iconeum now

holy fucking shit are you kidding me

fine

i'm out for today

go congratulate yourselves with how you caught gamma and me

[Iconeum]

this town is absolutely destroyed

[Iconeum]

i'm getting frustrates yes

especially when it comes to bullshit like peta just said

[Iconeum]

here

my final work for this game

i surrender my vote to peta and IV

[Iconeum]

it's a town vote

town literally needs it to win

I'm holding on to sanity and say both peta and IV are town because who else can be town here

use it wisely

[Iconeum]

midway literally has no other option here then to vote gamma @peta

i mean

it's not like they haven't hinted at it

[Iconeum]

VOTE: gamma

[Iconeum]

oh god i got fastposted by midway's vote

fuck

[Iconeum]

i'm literally town here ……...

[Iconeum]

how fucking high are the odds of midway doing this lol

[Iconeum]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAWR!

[Iconeum]

goodbye mafiascum

i love playing with you IV

i really do

pls don't leave

[Iconeum]

it was absolutely crazy how close IV got to solving this

I do believe we did enough damage at that point to win, but still.

[Iconeum]

should've just gotten midwaybear who was literally openwolfing

i was reading literally every single town member scumreading midway, but not pushing or voting there

big OOF moment

[Iconeum]

Also, did you guys like the setup?

yes

[Iconeum]

gg scum.

Don't feel bad IV. You were playing decent. We were cursed. I blocked scum every night and it had zero effect on the game.

screw you btw

do you have

*any idea*

how much i was looking forward to pocket datisi in a pt?

[Iconeum]

thanks for the game daddy

*pedit

damn

**ppedit

double damn

[Iconeum]

I wouldn't have voted for peta

plus the gamma slot was burned enough to not see endgame, i think

especially if i was flipped :p

[Iconeum]

gypyx you were great, setup was great, everyone was great this game

no redactions from PT *cringe*

ICO YOU GOT YOUR REVENGE ON ME AND DATISI OKAY ARE YOU HAPPY NOW :cries:

you have no idea

[Iconeum]

im sorry datisi i did not catch the mason softs from ico -_- i need to start looking for those

fun fact

i did not intentionally crumb masons

i was going for the neighbourizer