Open 93 - Near Vanilla: Game Over, Mafia Win!

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vote: Zazier

I always vote the first poster!.

Mod: can you PM the other players to inform them the game has started (I checked by fluke)

Will do, although to be fair I attached a link to the game in the Role PMs and shame on you if you didn't put the thread in your watched topics.

*waggles finger*

EDIT: Oh, and FYI, replies to questions to me will be edited into the same post.

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Mafia is l-3 on page one....something that I should know?

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unvote. Vote:Mafiassk

I usually play poorly, but at least I play.

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and "who" is our best player?

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unvote. Vote: Gamma

for attempting to start a bandwagon on me. I agree quick lynch is not helpful. but I figured l-2 was not a horrible thing, and maybe even make mafia post...it wasn't but oh well.

but gamma jusmps on me for bandwagoning, then bandwagon's himself, whats with that!

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unvote. Vote: Gamma for attempting to start a bandwagon on me.

OMGUS much?

not an OMGUS at all. I dont care that the vote was on me, it's the making a bandwagon on someone who jumped on a bandwagon.

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just pointing that out to SPAM

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I see...so basically I should have waiting for someone else to point out the obvious contradiction, or I can point it out, but not vote based on it.

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ok...what exactly does "meta" mean?

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I just state things as I see them and when they come to me, shitty tactic?

Only if those things are misrepresentations of the truth.

there is very little truth in this game. Scum has truth, the rest of us have guesses. interpretation and inuition is all we have.

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why do you rather Dok?

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I will be away till 22nd. I might be able to comment now and again, but sporatic at best..

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mine vote wasn't random, even if it is a bit outdated. I'll leave it there till someone moves me a different direction.

sorry for the delays all...I work in the finance industry. needless to say, I've been a bit busy recently.

but to get this one moving perhaps a deadline would help.

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I'm interested, how was the wagon being pushed super hard?

I agree with Armlx in regards to vote for who is scummy regardless of lurkers, but at the same time...we need other players active day 1, so we can have better read for day 2.

also...Armlx...why did ya say "super hard" seems like you were implying he said it was...which he didn't (as my read goes)

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Then tell me if there is a player who has more scum tells at this moment than Geckoj, afatchic.

when i said should i lynch him now, i was being a smart alleck in regards to this post. you sould like you are saying since he is the only one that has done anything wrong we should go ahead and lynch him. this was not a serious post, you should be able to figure out that it does not at all go along with what i have been saying all game.

and i said i would believe the PR claim because in an open setup we know there has to be a Doc Or JK so if he claims either and no counter-claim then he is probably telling the truth, if we get a counter-claim then we caught scum D1.

the majority of your case against me so far is you taking stuff the wrong way or twisting my words around.

maybe it's just me..but I dont like "being a smart alleck" or sarcasm in posts unless stated right after sarcastic post. just seems like an excuse. and I don't buy it...part of me want to vote Gekko, but I can't convince myself to leave this one.

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afat's count is 4 (unless this is "new math")

Thanks, correcting it

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Unvote: afatchic

FOS: afatchic

Hey Scum, when you get to kill people tonight, please kill MafiaSSK, OK? I think it would be mutually beneficial.

I don't like this - I will explain why tomorrow if needed.

Vote: thegeckoj

no one hammer yet! sineish can you please explain why you quoted Doktor's post then voted gecko. no one hammer until he has a chance to explain as i think it was a mistake

i am town, 100%. i am convinced MafiaSSK is mafia, i dont know why a bunch of small trivial things not the least of which is his metagame. is it great evidence, not by a long shot.

am i gonna change any minds, nope. and i am sick of this game anyway, hammer away and meet your fate.

sick of this game...I dont like that comment. are you talking about this game in general, or this game in this thread only. or just dont like being lynched?

I can hammer, and will if neccecary...perhaps night phase will move things along. and spark discussion again. but I'll wait if there are any further comments.

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the replacement isn't gonna be able to reverse things.

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is he asking to be hammered?

Not liking this comment.

why not...Gecko does say "hammer away"

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I will hammer in 4 hours. last call!!!

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fair enough...I wont hammer till monday (unless someone else does first)

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if geck doesn't post by monday, he'll get my vote by default.

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The Gecko wagon: Started with

good scumhunting

, and

continued to build from there

. I can see him flipping scum if we still want to lynch him today. With that, I will add my

VOTE:Gecko

So you say he started out well, pro town and scumhunting and all that, then continued to get better, and so you come to the conclusion that he must be scum?

What. The. Hell.

yeah wow...scummy...still waiting to hear Darox's reply to getting busted on this.

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The Gecko wagon: Started with good scumhunting, and continued to build from there.

I can see him flipping scum if we still want to lynch him today

. With that, I will add my

VOTE:Gecko

i am not scum. i have already said i am town.

this post helps abolutly no-one.

vote: Gecko

heres a question, "Can you be a replacement for a game you were NK'd or lynched in?"

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he wasn't voting...not even on the vote count. I will hold back the mishammer until you get some input out in.

as for my question then vote, I dont believe a question dies from day to day.

in the meantime

unvote

afat and darix are now in the running for me after gecko.

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I had attempted a hammer vote, and forgot to unvote. hence..mishammer...ooohhh....now I see the wording is poor...I was editing my post in word...2 parts, condensed, and spit out.

Mishammer meaning I forgot to unvote, NOT hamering a Townie.

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People are trying to misrepresent your misreading as a misrepresentation Darox.

Darox has never claimed it to be any of the above...quite the assumption!

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Darox has never claimed it to be any of the above...quite the assumption!

Its pretty obvious it was....

yep you caught me, im scum. dang why would i make such a careless mistake. darn.

I can only imagine. It does happen a lot.

Obvious? the only thing obvious in the game is Scum. I have a question for you but first I still need a reply from Darox in regards to this.

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I should be on the "not voting" list

corrected

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I have legitimate concerns that unless Doktor is scum, he is in violation of

# Play to win the game.

Thoughts? Not saying this is indicative of him being scum, but more an issue that should be dealt with on a higher level.

why is he not trying to win?

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the part of claiming him as my scum buddy was sarcasm, sorry. i didn't notice the new rule.

for me it was also the "lynch me first" Junk.

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Darox has never claimed it to be any of the above...quite the assumption!

Its pretty obvious it was....

yep you caught me, im scum. dang why would i make such a careless mistake. darn.

I can only imagine. It does happen a lot.

Obvious? the only thing obvious in the game is Scum. I have a question for you but first I still need a reply from Darox in regards to this.

@ Armix: I don't understand why you under-rate Darox so much. sure he says it was a slip up, but why reply for him.
a) I think the spinning tiger is able to reply for itself.
b) Darox could have been baiting/hunting some responces
c) Darox could be scum and attempting to misrepresent others.

probably a few more tactics I havn't mentioned, but I don't believe Darox is above creative posts to gather further info.

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@ Armix: I don't understand why you under-rate Darox so much. sure he says it was a slip up, but why reply for him.
a) I think the spinning tiger is able to reply for itself.
b) Darox could have been baiting/hunting some responces
c) Darox could be scum and attempting to misrepresent others.

probably a few more tactics I havn't mentioned, but I don't believe Darox is above creative posts to gather further info.

Um. Aren't YOU replying for him when you give him an A-B-C list of alibi's to use?

No since I intentionally waited for him to admit it was a slip-up

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Because an obvious slipup is by definition obvious?

I don't see what you are trying to say here. Are you saying I was trying to see if half a dozen other people would also slip up and voted RBT because of it? I was testing people to see if they were reading the game? What?

"Obvious"...what does that mean exactly in a game based on lies? Darox, this doesn't specifically have anything to do with you, but others replying on your behalf.

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I agree with Sineish. K7 you could speak with your vote.

Kuribo, who would you chose to vote of Geckoj and afatchic?
Retro, same question for you.

between the 2 it's an easy Afat. thats were my vote was before the big gecko debate, and Afat's lynch me first junk makes me like that vote all fresh and new.

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v/La till Oct 20th..

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back!!!

vote gecko

only thin I have an issue with here is if the lizard is Scum, he should have known Zaz was the night target. that being said, still comfortable with it.

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WIFOM...dont think so...but at the same time, it's not enough to reverse a day of bad playing.

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My point was that we have no reasonable indication as to which of the two his action was, and all your question could get into was a series of WIFOM.

Okay, gotcha.




@retrowiz: So you say that you think gecko's statement about Zaz being scum may indicate his being town? But you're voting him because of his poor play yesterday? What?

I'm clearly not sold on him being town from the one comment. and that single comment does no erase my current/past belief. just thought it should be considered and not simply dismissed just in case.

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@ gecko. what's your final case on Mafiassk?

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@ gecko. what's your final case on Mafiassk?

just look over his entire post history this game. he has added absolutely nothing except to vote me because of a feeling. he doesnt even attempt to provide any evidence.

i realize a lot of people are convinced i am scum, there is likely no way for me to avoid my fate today, so be it. however when i turn up town tomorrow i hope all you vote MafiaSSK so at least you can try to even the score.

I just dont see that as a concrete reason to hit him up if you come up town, any one else you got dirt on?

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I'm tempted to vote for some of the deadbeats in here.

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might give us a new discussion..

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I'm tempted to vote for some of the deadbeats in here.

Sure, let's ignore scummy behavior and lynch a lurker.

Or let's vote for the guy who wants to take the attention off the bandwagon and lynch a lurker... WHILE VOTING WITH THE BANDWAGON AND PUTTING THE BANDWAGON AT L-1.

Vote: Retrowiz

are you even following this thread?!?!?! I'm happy with the gecko wagon, just looking for further discussion so I have more info for tommorow.

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opens up discussion....such as this!

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and now trying to swing to me today randomly. I like the Kurb lynch tommorow if we're right today.

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why the vote rbt?

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vote:RBT

not a OMGUS, simply because I can.

unvote

changed my mind, cause I'm not as "simple" as others.

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Because I can.

I assume it is one rank under this one?

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vote:RBT

not a OMGUS, simply because I can.

unvote

changed my mind, cause I'm not as "simple" as others.

this is one of the scummiest non-post posts I've ever seen.

@kuribo: What was with that hammer yesterday? It seemed to be nothing more than a rage hammer.

wow...2 records on 1 page...what else is up for grabs for me to obtain. too late for "quickest lynch" I guess...

how exactly does that make me scummy...
(actually, when I started it the post I wasn't thinking about the unvote part...but then I couldn't justify my vote other than being like RBT and I dont WANT to be like RBT. hence the unvote)

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snide...yeah of course. I don't play friendly

this is a game about lying and killing...no room for friendly in here.

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(actually, when I started it the post I wasn't thinking about the unvote part...but then I couldn't justify my vote other than being like RBT and I dont WANT to be like RBT. hence the unvote)

So why post it at all? You made a conscientious choice to Vote, unvote, and the Post. All within seconds of one another.

why post??...cause too many games stall out or need replacements..I don't mind kicking up dirt cause it keeps the game alive (although there only seems to be us 4 here...that includes RBT.)

also in this game I never not post something I start...

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for me the only issue I have with the hammer vote was "Scumbuddy this" it just makes we wonder if you knew him to be townie.

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(actually, when I started it the post I wasn't thinking about the unvote part...but then I couldn't justify my vote other than being like RBT and I dont WANT to be like RBT. hence the unvote)

So why post it at all? You made a conscientious choice to Vote, unvote, and the Post. All within seconds of one another.

why post??...cause too many games stall out or need replacements..I don't mind kicking up dirt cause it keeps the game alive (although there only seems to be us 4 here...that includes RBT.)

also in this game I never not post something I start...

No, I meant, why post at that particular point with something that actually says nothing? Are you trying to give the impression that you're scumhunting?

I was the first to ask RBT why, then you, then headgas (or whatever his name is...sorry)

is that your impression of scumhunting? reasking a question already asked. not accusing you of anything on this point(yet...), but it's just RBT gave the worst reply in history...even worse than mine. "Gut feeling" would have at least been something

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in this game there are 5 people not bothering...I take the time and effort to post regardless.

(as I stated in my other games, replacements and games being cancelled are pretty much forcing me to quit this site after the remaining games are finished.)

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I had a gut feeling retro was scum in this game, and I think his obsession over one vote has proven his guilt.

obsession....I love it...

if you ask "why" it's obsession.

vote: RBT

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Any questions I need to answer?

yeah...anything to add to this game would be swell.

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Vote: Riceballtail

Stop being lazy and justify your actions. JDodge you ain't.

who is JDodge?

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This lurking and popping in bit is typical of K7, but not Riceball.

I don't like that the whole of his posts have been:

"lolol vote retrowiz i won't post my reasons"

and

"hurr hurr k7 is lurking"

I agree, and it's getting ridiculous.

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Also, I think we should revisit this since it fell by the wayside during fatchic's lynch:

he wasn't voting...not even on the vote count. I will hold back the mishammer until you get some input out in.

wow...a third time?!?!?! seriously... there has already been discussion on this...go back and read the thread again...I'm not reliving that a third time.

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I'm not saying we should have gone for a second best candidate - I'm saying I find people saying "No more discussion until we lynch gecko" scummy. It's perfectly possible to continue discussing other players - and if you had, you might have found someone equally scummy as gecko. It's always a bad thing to close down discussion, whether you have multiple suspects or just one - in fact, if you only have one clear cut suspect, maybe you shouldd think twice and discuss even more, to think about possible situations teh next day. As shown right now, by the fact the only real suspects are RBT and retrowiz, just because they're being a pair of idiots. Because of you (and others, admittedly, but not so vociferously) refusing to talk any further about anyone else until gecko was lynched, we haven't got any real concrete suspects.

I gotta ask. What makes me an Idiot.

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so you allowing me to go back 30 pages to find it...wow...so kind...that will have to wait till I'm bored with nothing better to do.

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if you think a vote is worthy cause your too lazy to pay attention...go ahead...especially since you had the time to "re-find" this comment all over again.

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Kub. glad you remember it...you wanted to re-open it...thats fine...ask a new question regarding it if you want...stating I posted it doesn't ask anything.

to the others...saying "oh yeah!!!!" ask a freakin question!!! since other wise it's not an Attack.

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again...defence??~?~? to what?!?!

Kub's suggestion that it's subconscious?!?!?!

for entertainment purpose what possible reply would satify a question like that that gives no positive resulting answer (I know theres a Mafia term for that but I don't know it)

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Kub. there is no answer. since there is no question...I officially will not answer to non-questions. you can wait forever I dont really care. you don't like my answer...swell. not going to become creative and make crap up to appease you.

I gave you the truth. end of story.

as for the armlx post...don't recall the question so I possibly didn't answer it. that I will look into. any Idea of the post number or even the page?

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The Gecko wagon: Started with good scumhunting, and continued to build from there.

I can see him flipping scum if we still want to lynch him today

. With that, I will add my

VOTE:Gecko

i am not scum. i have already said i am town.

this post helps abolutly no-one.

vote: Gecko

heres a question, "Can you be a replacement for a game you were NK'd or lynched in?"

whew...this is why I ignored it. the question I asked had nothing to do with the hammer, it was a generalized question for a game I was lynched in but had about 3 replacements needed. I didn't know the Sites policy.

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Kub. glad you remember it...you wanted to re-open it...thats fine...ask a new question regarding it if you want...stating I posted it doesn't ask anything.

to the others...saying "oh yeah!!!!" ask a freakin question!!! since other wise it's not an Attack.

I wanted to reopen it, not because you never explained it, but because I found your explanation lacking, and... frankly... half-assed. In light of gecko revealing as a (extremely scummy) townie.. I dunno. Certainly there are reasons for voting him, but you had called it a mishammer, you see?

Also, Armlx asked you this, and you never answered: If you thought you were hammering gecko, why did you ask him a question in the same post?

and wow...misprepresentation...thats very misleading...Kub, you just became my #2 suspect...boarderline #1.

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I didn't ask the guy I hammered a question which is what you implied. Blatent Mis-Rep.

you don't like my answer thats cool...take it as you wish. I have no qualms regards to your opinions. unfortunatly they are not correct, but in this game you never get confirms. and I didn't know you thought the answer was dumb, I read you didn't like it. when RBT goes, you inherit my vote. unless other begin playing in here and actually add something.

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has: unfortunatly I am aware how it looked...if it was someone else who said it, I'd be all over them too...but only somuch can be pulled from a typo.

but yes...if was scum, then it would be a non-subject.

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he wasn't voting...not even on the vote count. I will hold back the mishammer until you get some input out in.

as for my question then vote, I dont believe a question dies from day to day.

in the meantime

unvote

afat and darix are now in the running for me after gecko.

this was my reply and everyone seemed to understand Kub. are you confused somehow?

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ask away...just ask a real question...and not "I don't believe you so answer the same question a different way so I can accuse you of lying"

and it has been answered...yet you have not commented on your Misrep of the question!?

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I am aware how it looked...if it was someone else who said it, I'd be all over them too...

But because it's you, it's not valid?

I answered it...KOC do you have anything to add or just "what Kub said" is you play style?

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Kub. glad you remember it...you wanted to re-open it...thats fine...ask a new question regarding it if you want...stating I posted it doesn't ask anything.

to the others...saying "oh yeah!!!!" ask a freakin question!!! since other wise it's not an Attack.

I wanted to reopen it, not because you never explained it, but because I found your explanation lacking, and... frankly... half-assed. In light of gecko revealing as a (extremely scummy) townie.. I dunno. Certainly there are reasons for voting him, but you had called it a mishammer, you see?

Also, Armlx asked you this, and you never answered: If you thought you were hammering gecko,

why did you ask him a question in the same post

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this is the Misrep. blantant, clear...since your question is based on something that didn't happen. I didn't ask him a question. what part of that is not clear to you, or are you stuck in some twilight zone tunnel vision.

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I was clear...you asked me something that most understand. are you clear now? or are you gonna ask why I called out the Doc or Cop or something else I havn't done?

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Kub. thanks for participating in this discussion..although I think your a bit confused, it's more than I can say for the rest of the inactives in here.

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KoC..question..in detail please...how am I making things hard?

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great. KOC get us somewhere!

Lead on!!!

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Alrighty then! Fed up of frakking lurkers anyway.

Vote: MafiaSSK

because lurking on DAY 3 is inexcusable.

Good enough for you, retro?

pretty sure you gotta unvote first.

but why pick that lurker over the other lurkers?

Darox: any excuse for your lurking?

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I wasn't aware I was lurking in this game.

In other news,

Vote: Retrowiz

This vote has reasons.

and what reasons?

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@ Darox...is this a copy/past of your vote on me in Mini 656 (Post 764 if anyone wants to verify) when you made the exact same post.

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I admit I'm not the greatest at remembering to post, but I actually try when it comes to playing. It may not make sense, it may, for that matter, seem stupid and completely illogical, but I at least try and put things forward.

please..put something forward.

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wow...brilliant RBT. wish it was a bit of OMGUS...but sadly it boils down to simple, You Suck. and has nothing to do with the fact the vote is on me, just like others are asking you the same questions I am. I would be asking you the same questions. if you don't want to play, just ask for a replacement.

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RBT. just for fun how bout you address the others questions about your vote other than mine. (you seem to be just a waste of time)

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if we are wrong tonight we are looking at lylo tommorow...RBT. hopefully you have 2 more suspects to go along with me.

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Tajo. breathe in some new life here please!

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unvote. vote Darox

this vote has it's reasons...

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unvote. vote Darox

this vote has it's reasons...

Mind explaining them? This looks like just following mykonian.

actually it's following Darox.

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RBT what?!?! what's your first language, I suspect it isn't English.

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for me RBT/Darox, are my top 2, I'm happy to vote either (I'd vote both if I could). so I'll stick with Darox for now but I'll happly be the hammer on RBT if it's offered.

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I gotta second that tajo.

Myko: What?!?!

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at least he can try to think for himself, and not simply follow the main bandwagons of the last pages.

bandwagons? I had the First Vote on RBT this Day, and it stayed there until the Darox stuff was brought to light. so I'm not bandwagoning, in fact some of you are following me. not that I'm complaining.

Oh and By the way
*****Newsflash****
I'm not a Perfect Mafia Player.
Probably not even a very good one.
I just like to play. and I do play.

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is that a question for me?

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ask it a different way, what would be the difference between the wagon on RBT, and the wagon on K7, if I started it?

unvote vote killa seven

If a few people joined me, and afterwards I would say that I would agree with a lynch of RBT or K7, would I be pro-town?

No but I did state my reasons for RBT. and just recently moved it to Darox, so going back to RBT is not a far stretch. if you had reasons for K7 then I have no issues with you going back to it. but anyway you look at it, thats not going to prove pro-town, or scum either way.

and thanks for waking up K7 with this post too!

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Popular. I get what your trying to say, not say I buy into it, but I understand your point. the Fault in your assumption, is you think RBT has a reason for doing anything, whch he is clearly without reason. therefore I don't think we can read too much into his.

That Said Kub is still #3 on my list.

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Rbt, if everyone thinks your lacking. is it you...or EVERYone else. I can't wait for you to quote this as some obscure reason that I'm scum

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Quick reread on retro yields the following idea:

Retro and Kuribo are scumbuddies. At no point, ever, has Retro ever FOSd or Voted for Kuribo, but yet he has continually said Kuribo is scummy.

Still leaning hascow for the third scum.

For the record I don't FOS anyone. and if it wasn't for your "play" he would have my vote this day (then it would have changed to darox with Kub as runner up)

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7hours for any thing then the Hammer drops.

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Another attempt to look town when you really just wanted to do it now. If you really were town, you would have dropped it already, based on your "suspicions" of me. So far all I can get is that I'll be lynched because of a crap/lack of case, and this is the way it'll be.

No one would believe a claim at this point anyway, so I won't bother.

"won't bother"...wow...I was waiting to give you a chance to claim or be helpful. something. anything of use.

too bad this wont be the hammer but it's the right thing to do.

unvote. vote RBT

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Unvote

Maybe RBT isnt the best lynch today.
There is something wrong with mykonian and KOC supporting this wagon.
Mykonian, how a read of K7 can determine RBT is scum?
KOC, care to expand your case against RBT?

who are your top 2 lynch candidates? after RBT's previous comment I can't see how he's NOT the best lynch. I gotta say this gives me a little vibe your trying to protect a scum buddy. consider yourself #4 on my suspect list. with a strong possibility of rising up. but not past RBT for today anyways.

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what do I think of Kub?
my list is such.
#1 RBT
#2 Darox (as soon as a few votes drop Darox disappears, thats scary)
#3 Kuribo (he either doesn't understand the Misrep on his issue with me or he's trying to mislead everyone else...it's a mis rep cause it's a misquote Kub)
#4 Tajo. (trying to protect failing scum buddy? weak...but it's in my head now)
#5 k7 Lurkers Suck regardless.
#5 Has/Koc/Myk no read on these 3 yet. I'll save them for day 4.

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change of heart. RBT/Darox/k7
I'll lynch any of the 3 today. they are just not adding anything to the game, good or bad. Day 3 it's time to weed the unhelpful.

Tajo, I know you like the Kub lynch, and I do a little too but lets take out some garbage first.

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doesn't want to be replaced...by what?!?!?! a brick?

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Darox...any other suspects? not sure why it took a prod threat to wake you up. considering you were l-2 before. Hiding and praying?

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when/if RBT comes up scum. I'm looking hard at Darox the partner.

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Guys, ITS A FUCKING PROB SCENARIO I can think of becuase I know my allignment, I never said kuribo is 100% scum for that. It would be idiotic to push a lynch for that.
Its just a freaking prob scenario based in RBT attempt to bus, WIFOM, etc, dammit, prefering retro and has over kuribo and populartajo. I WANT TO KNOW WHY DID HE DO THAT.
THIS ISNT HARD TO UNDERSTAND.
The thing that most bothers me is that RBT STILL HASNT EXPLAINED WHY DID HE SINGLE PEOPLE LIKE THAT AND WHY HE IS VOTING ME NOW.
If hes really town, his next post should explain this. Or Im going to apply 1051.
And kuribo, you want to know why I dont want to lynch RBT? Because if hes town and you and Darox are town, then we are pretty fucked up tomorrow with reasonings like yours. Really.

there are tons of things people want to know about RBT. to think you'll get an answer worth waiting for is clearly foolish. Stop wasting time with that dead end. We've all tried to get a useful post out of RBT. not going to happen.

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Mod: Vote count?

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KOC and k7

gotta ask. why K7?

and of the 3 scum we have out there...I gotta think, Darox and Kub. not sure who # 3 is. but I have a hunch.

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DO we ask the jail keeper to claim yet or is that useless.

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KOC and k7

gotta ask. why K7?

Because he's done absolutely nothing all game. While this is normal for him, I'm really wary. Do you want to mislynch someone and lose to K7scum? I know I don't.


@tajo: I've been a bit wary of Darox since I replaced in, in case you can't remember, I just don't think he's as scummy as some people.

Note how a couple minutes after I mentioned his name as possible scum, he showed up. Why is that?

sadly I concur with this..
a) k7 is scum lynch is good Idea.
b) K7 is town and unhelpful and scum will win anyway lynch neutral
c) K7 is town, not lynched, and scum waste a night kill on him to make this game interesting. lynch negative.

if this game makes it to the end I don't want to have me, k7 and anyone else. the lack of help is irritating.

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KOC and k7

gotta ask. why K7?

and of the 3 scum we have out there...I gotta think, Darox and Kub. not sure who # 3 is. but I have a hunch.

FYI, my hunch was K7. not due to scummy activity, but a serious lack of town activity(no activity that is).

I'd like to avoid another RBT too, but I got a 50/50 chance of you guys who to hit, and I can't be wrong. I hate that. but I sure as hell don't want to lose to K7.

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(I will be on and off till Jan 5th)

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has/darox/kub,

you ll seem to be focusing on pop right now. I'd like you each to give me 1 scum partner with him. and I wont accept k7 as an answer.

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I also dont like that we have 2 votes up in lylo situation. I think that info is very telling.

I don't like Pop as the lynch for today.

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The reason for the scum parters is I still like the darox lynch, and he's pushing for tajo. so I'd like to see if it's just the 2 (darox and tajo) that we have on the blocks today or if theres a third suspect to throw in the mix.

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pointless asking k7 for anything. as for my suspect list...it's the same as i've posted multiple times..

1. darox.
2, kub.
3. k7.
4. has (new addition.)

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Kub. so your saying regardless what pop does, your mind wont change. just looking to confirm that.

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vote darox

I will switch to Kur at a moments notice, but If I'm wrong, I assume scum will jump on to finish the game.

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Darox...I still dont like that your unwilling to share your third suspect. in lylo it's up to the remaining town to all fully agree on 1 scum...thats all it comes down to...not wanting to share your 3rd suspect just sounds like you have no suspect or your trying to decide to point at a fellow scum or not.

also the amount of time you've been at l-2 does speak volumes to me. your reason why you havn't been lynched lies on both Tajo and I BOTH scum...I know which I am which makes that statement invalid, and perhaps bolsters my faith in tajo (for now). my vote easily stays where it is.

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Tajo...I think the scum team just assinged you to be daily target during night phase...since they all seem tunnel visioned on you...it's inapproprate if any of them are actually town.

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here come the scum hammers...I assume waiting for one of the townies to buy in....regardless this game does need to conclude sooner than later.

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Can K7 save us?

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my guess is KOC was the Townie.

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Wow...I was perfect in my predictions...but remind me to never play a game with K7 again ever.

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tajo...it didn't matter what you said to them...I get that you had to try...but it was their focus that should have hit all Town's radar.

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I'd love a end game comment for K7 or KOC..