In post 2107, unwnd wrote:Flavor is a narcissist who believes he's always right, then when he isn't he goes this was my plan all along! self-meta joker movie 2019 starring joaquin phoenix
and Andres scumreads you as well so he's pretty much fighting you on the same terms you're giving him
lolIn post 2122, PlusJOYED wrote:i think i have a solve now
this is pretty speculative but nopoint saying "maf don't want to stall they want to elim townies" felt genuine to me. I think nopoint was annoyed as maf that he didnt get a mislim. This makes me think that he probably talked in maf chat about his frustration n1 and got some sort of resonance with maf. He'd probably want to push inactive maf slots to join a wagon otherwise. To me the other person most frusterated with inactivity day 1 was uwnd, so this kind of implicates him to me but the idea is a bit of a stretch.
uwnd's suggestion really pinged me. since uwnd knew I'd very likely shoot between gera and uwnd after noraa elim, he was very survivalistic for a VT suggesting that we elim gera and have me choose between andres and noraa: too much self-preservation for a VT imo.
therefore, my solve is nopoint/noraa/uwnd.
you expect me to believe this after you couldn't even figure out bm wasn't a cop in one game that you "read"In post 2129, Andresvmb wrote:Just in case you want to know where that’s coming from. I sat down and read a few ISO’s of Noraa as both Scum and Town. I found other instances where players criticize her for being reactive, emotional, and prone to tunneling.
lol and you like flavor. that's funny.In post 2135, Andresvmb wrote:Yes, I was annoyed. But I really shouldn’t. I mean if Noraa is actually Scum, then what she’s doing meets the win criteria I guess and is somewhat valid. I get more upset at the disrespect, and this implied idea that filters through a lot of Noraa’s posts that no one else can make valid points, or that she can never be wrong.In post 2131, unwnd wrote:That made me laugh, not in a 'haha you're wrong way' more like 'haha you got me figured me out'. I try to see the objectivity in games but as I said before, people aren't robots. I'm very attuned to emotions and believe that while we tell ourselves yes, this is a game, our emotions lead on more then we want them to. Is it not true that you got upset/annoyed at Noraa earlier? We're not in a room together and I can't see your face. I'm sure as you were typing towards Noraa it was mostly a blank expression but inside you let your contempt take the form of your words. This is basically me saying as objective as I want to be, I still see the tonal exchanges and put them in consideration.
what's ur point huh? trying to tell me I'm tunneling town?In post 2132, Andresvmb wrote:And in on the games you were Town that I looked through, The Golden Paradox made fun of you for tunneling other Town players (you were Town).
Lol don't think ur lucky, scum. ur dying tomorrow.In post 2159, Andresvmb wrote:Fuck off. You are terrible at the game and I’m glad you have been executed even if you’re Town.In post 2157, Noraa wrote:Shoot andres. Even if he's town, he deserves it.
"I was calling you town before I realized you were limbait"In post 2160, Andresvmb wrote:I was calling you Town before you went all insane against my slot. Hopefully somebody gives you a spoiler so you stop ranting like a crazy person.
lol except I joined in 2020. You however are offended when ur called a noob.In post 2163, Andresvmb wrote:Just wait until you get to the Dead Thread. You’re just making yourself look foolish now.In post 2161, Noraa wrote:Lol don't think ur lucky, scum. ur dying tomorrow.In post 2159, Andresvmb wrote:Fuck off. You are terrible at the game and I’m glad you have been executed even if you’re Town.In post 2157, Noraa wrote:Shoot andres. Even if he's town, he deserves it.
Lol says the one that misrepped the hell out of my meta.In post 2166, Andresvmb wrote:I’m not going to keep responding to your immaturity. I suggest you take the advice and wait until you’re out of the game.
yup. 5 votes. hammer.In post 2169, Insanoflex wrote:That was a hammer? Really?
coin flip.
informed goon is possible.In post 2179, Insanoflex wrote:The one paranoid thought I had is that FL's claim seems like it has TOO much downside for town, based on what's been claimed in a setup that's otherwise fairly weak, the one issue is that he claimed before it was known there was a vig which would have to mean he already knew there was a vig somehow, and that seems less likely with a watcher flipped? I don't know. I didn't think nopoint pushing on him looked like a bus but like I said I need to reread Day 1
shooting Gera is fine too.In post 2181, unwnd wrote:PlusJOYED I doubt you're going to listen to me but please shoot Gera and then if it's wrong I will take the blame
agree.In post 2188, Insanoflex wrote:Seriously vig thisIn post 2185, Andresvmb wrote:@plus, do seriously take another look at unwnd.
+1In post 2213, unwnd wrote:I can't tell if you're just pretending to not see what I've been saying or if you're being intentionally obtuse. I've tried to work with you and told you disengage from Noraa multiple times, but you kept taking the bait and now we're here.
Again, you yourself had a reaction that seemed to agree that Noraa was probably flipping town. It does not take any amount of TMI to see this
this is pretty accurate.In post 2196, unwnd wrote:I stated that I felt there was potential scum on nopoint's wagon and there's no way there wasn't a mate on there, I'm considering all options instead of merely assuming. You talk about how nobody reads your posts then can't even bother to comprehend mine
being defeatist is right. if plus is smart, he'll shoot you tonight probably with his last shot since insano probably dies tonight.In post 2212, Andresvmb wrote:Whatever this is just a hunch. I don’t really care what plus does and frankly I don’t really care to fight much anymore. I haven’t been particularly good this game so all my views should be viewed through that lens.
no shit sherlock. u can't shoot outside that pool.In post 2218, PlusJOYED wrote:ehhh my vig shot is between unwnd/gera/andres regardless of flip
I can't decide really this is a hard call
you voted me and therefore have no right saying this.In post 2221, PlusJOYED wrote:if noraa does flip green that'll mean my shelly read was on point
plus don't be dense here. shoot Andres.In post 2221, PlusJOYED wrote:so I'd feel uncomfortable shooting andres even though I said I would if noraa flips town.
you should be.In post 2221, PlusJOYED wrote:I'm scared a scum!andres is leading me into it as well
Lol say that again.In post 2237, Andresvmb wrote:@plus, I give you permission to shoot me.
And just so we’re clear, the one that started tunneling here wasn’t me. It was Noraa. So at the very fucking least place the blame where it’s deserved.
No last game u two were together both u were town.In post 2239, geraintm wrote:Hes played with me and I am 99% sure was in the one game I was scum. I am very confident not mafia can read me very easily.
The one tunneling was me.In post 2241, Noraa wrote:Lol say that again.In post 2237, Andresvmb wrote:@plus, I give you permission to shoot me.
And just so we’re clear, the one that started tunneling here wasn’t me. It was Noraa. So at the very fucking least place the blame where it’s deserved.
better than someone that just smacks others with words that they didn't even check to make sure were right.In post 2246, Andresvmb wrote:For somebody that really can’t handle an argument, you sure as hell like to say a lot.
Oh my god stop talking to me I can’t deal with it anymore.
yeah!In post 2248, Insanoflex wrote:To be clear, the plan is I protect PlusJOYED and he vigs someone, right?
I fixed some typos for you.In post 2251, Andresvmb wrote:STOP. SHUT UP. IM E SCUM. ALL MY ARGUMENTS ARE TERRIBLE.
got my point across anywaysIn post 2253, Andresvmb wrote:Even when trying to be witty you fail. Amazing.
Scums don't need to be heardIn post 2255, Andresvmb wrote:OMG STOP DROWNING ME OUT.
I know you areIn post 2257, Andresvmb wrote:SHUT UP SCUM. YOU’RE SCUM. BECAUSE I SAY SO AND YOU’RE A NOOB.
Except this is one of my phases so soon this meta will not mean absolutely anythingIn post 2259, Andresvmb wrote:You’re just a whiny shit. This would be funny if I didn’t actually think you were Town and playing straight into Scum’s hands. You’re literally Town’s worst fear. A player that is confident for no reason at all, and doesn’t have the game to back it up.
And you are wrong. You’ll know soon enough.
If there’s any positive to take from this, is that I will quote this game forever as good reason to discard some of the things you say. Particularly the ones you seem most convinced about.