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[Norfolk Boy1]

Binatog is my boy. All who vote him are scum.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Chkflip's references are top class.

I don't understand all the mentioning of numbers, but I claim 4 in the event of a lottery.

[Norfolk Boy1]

I'm also inclined to vote for Mini, because she's the only acceptable candidate from those that voted for my boy Binatog.

[Norfolk Boy1]

You guys have reasons?

Oh yeah:

I'm also inclined to vote for Mini, because she's the only acceptable candidate from those that voted for my boy Binatog.

[Norfolk Boy1]

It's recent enough for me to have not forgotten. In another universe I was the greatest Tracker in history, that game.

[Norfolk Boy1]

You don't have to analyze every post what I try to do is keep track of main events that are happening.

What are we classing as main events so far?

[Norfolk Boy1]

Ugh VOTE: binatog

Scum right here.

VOTE: Rannygazoo

[Norfolk Boy1]

andres putting more effort at the start here to make up for last game or because he's scum?

Which one are you leaning towards?

[Norfolk Boy1]

quack

Ducking questions, I see.

I'm feeling Norway as town right now. The easy breezy vote hops and their demeanour doesn't seem like it's scum operating to me.

I'm also thinking Mini as town right now, purely for her sticking her neck out with scumreads. Mini as scum is cagier than that. Mini - can you put you initial scumreads in order from most scummy to least?

Ranny still gets the big scum ping from me for such lazy LHF voting earlier. I also have tingles from Gamma.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Good to have you here, Quiet.

We need to bypass this NB1 nonsense. Let's use Norfolk.

I've done some research and am rethinking my Ranny read as my super intelligent theory has turned out to be impossible. I'm adding chkflip to my townreads with Norway and Mini.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Mini wagon took off since this, plus the long set of questions they posted. Do you still maintain this read?

I'm still leaning it, but the coaching theory is exactly the type of logic I love. I had a Mafia Godfather theory earlier (reading the wiki educated me as to what's a normal role) that was a bit similar in mindset.

[Norfolk Boy1]

We are 26 pages in no reason to get too serious about reads yet.

Why should page counts of all things decide how serious we are?

Are you okay Norway?

[Norfolk Boy1]

I don’t think the barrier was quite as extreme as you are making it sound. The argument I made is one that really only works on myself. If people say that this is how scum play, that they have played this way while scum, I’ll believe them. I’d still like to see an example of it, not as a barrier to a mini vote, but because I want to be able to recognize it in the future. There’s twenty people in this thread, I don’t think asking if someone could point me towards something I could use to get better (especially if it’s as wildly common as people are saying it is) is all that egregious.

Entitled, maybe, but hey I’m a lawyer now. It’s gone to my head.

Quiet, Norway and Mini were scum together in Newbie 2037. Good game, that.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Sorry bro, i'm firmly in the 'meta is bollocks' camp.

If you're hanging your hat on it, my experience of Mini is that she played exactly the same as scum as she did when she was a town PR.

[Norfolk Boy1]

You should join the pressure vote Norfolk.
Vanity wagons are of the devil.

Allons-y!

VOTE: Cheeky

[Norfolk Boy1]

Sorry bro, i'm firmly in the 'meta is bollocks' camp.

If you're hanging your hat on it, my experience of Mini is that she played exactly the same as scum as she did when she was a town PR.

i have a funny graph i wanna share re: meta. The absolute best town players i know utilize meta effectively. Its a good tool. I find those that discard it don't actually know how to use it.

What do you think of Norwegian?

I'm one for reading charts. Graph me, baby.

In terms of Norway, i'm leaning town.

There was a free spirited vote hopping, easy wagonning Norway at the beginning. Recently he's been spiky and needlessly aggressive.

With such a large group and inevitable easy targets, at this point it seems unlikely that Norway as scum would behave like this.

[Norfolk Boy1]

@Norfolk Boy1
What makes you believe there are "easy targets"?

There are always easy targets: the lowest posters, the deliberately obtuse and the obviously new are those that immediately spring to mind.

[Norfolk Boy1]

In 7 minutes, Nero went from 'obvtown' to scumread.

It's clearly all garbage.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Tbh I kind of just want this day to end so I can do my night action

VOTE: Hayker

Are you sure this is the right wagon?

[Norfolk Boy1]

What? How is he a tracker now?

Inception claiming.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Official Votecount 1.14

Hayker (6): quiet, NorwegianboyEE, Rannygazoo, Andresvmb, BBMolla, Bypasser Catcher

[E-5]

Not_Mafia (5): Nero Cain, Norfolk Boy1, MiniMegabyte, Binatog13, DrippingGoofball
PlusJOYED (2): Titus, Luca Blight
Titus (1): PlusJOYED
MiniMegabyte (1): Vaxkiller
Bypasser Catcher (1): Gamma Emerald
Rannygazoo (1): chkflip
NorwegianboyEE (1): Not_Mafia
Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (1): Hayker

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

Quoting this for later reference.

corrected some non-mechanical errors from the vc post -- Mizzymod

[Norfolk Boy1]

N_M wasting his vote on a slot that’s not got any other votes and ignoring the other leading wagon is weird if scum.

It doesn't seem rational to be hung up on having one vote on you when the vote count has 2 rolling wagons and traction on a third.

What is it about Not Mafia's vote that's got to you?

[Norfolk Boy1]

N_M wasting his vote on a slot that’s not got any other votes and ignoring the other leading wagon is weird if scum.

It doesn't seem rational to be hung up on having one vote on you when the vote count has 2 rolling wagons and traction on a third.

What is it about Not Mafia's vote that's got to you?

I’m not allowed to be curious why someone is voting me?

Poor response. Answer, please.

[Norfolk Boy1]

You need 2 devices, Koba.

[Norfolk Boy1]

VOTE: Hayker

Haykers gonna Hayk Hayk Hayk.

Norway; first, aid me with the %s that a)Meta and b) the slip are the reasons for your vote.

Second, if there is belief in a 'slip', why is Mom not being wagonned?

[Norfolk Boy1]

The quality of written English from some of you is appalling.

[Norfolk Boy1]

also did ppl literally miss mini getting replaced? lol

Norfolk did.

Thanks for pointing that out.

[Norfolk Boy1]

hey peanut gallery, u gonna actually do anything except incite stuff? cause feels a lot like u just tryna push an agenda to discredit a forming townblock.

Isn't it a bit early for that? I defer to your greater experience, Koba but canyou be sure your snuggling up to town?

[Norfolk Boy1]

*you're

[Norfolk Boy1]

I keep reading N_M posts as BC posts before realizing it's not.

That avatar is hypnotic.

I'm switching horses here, because this flip will confirm a lead I want to pursue later.

VOTE: Nero

[Norfolk Boy1]

I keep reading N_M posts as BC posts before realizing it's not.

That avatar is hypnotic.

I'm switching horses here, because this flip will confirm a lead I want to pursue later.

VOTE: Nero

What lead is that?

I'll tell you tomorrow.

[Norfolk Boy1]

I can't believe that Binatog betrayed me. I'd have taken a bullet for you, bro.

In terms of Not Mafia's claim, it's confirming me as town. As good as Not Mafia is, do you really think that they're that accurate with a 5.26% chance of catching the sole flipped nightkill? Come on.

Obviously I know that Not Mafia is lying, but I don't think that it's scum motivated, I think it's a gambit to catch scum piling on a wagon.

As I see it, Not Mafia's gambit has worked. They've thrown a name out there and within a few hours of dayphase starting, i'm E1. My wagon has scum on it and should be the next pool to eliminate from, particularly when cross examined with the Nero wagon.

I'm not claiming, because this is my chance to protect myself from opportunistic scum.

In terms of who should be looked at today, the obvious elimination is Luca.

Posts 253, 267, 273, 592, 714, 719, 720 and 749 are all scum reading or pushing Mini, despite never actually committing to a vote.

Whilst doing that, Luca scum reads PlusJOYED for low content (posts 470, 708, 711, 746, 756, 1037, 1054, 1395, 1397, 1661 and 1669 if you want to check or ISO. I'm on a phone so links are almost impossible), which rarely defines alignment, it's just easy to go after.

This all gets interrupted to pop Not Mafia at E1, despite making no reference to them previously.

Then, despite confirming Nero as their top townread, Luca joins the wagon, laying the reason for this firmly at Norway's door. Luca then tries to justify the vote with posts 1752 and 1765, all about town and scum behaviour. This is despite advising someone else in post 751 to get out of that exact mindset.

VOTE: Luca

[Norfolk Boy1]

4) Nero was never my top town read, what are you talking about?

Post 980.

Why would scum!luca push mini and then kill the slot?

No traction on a wagon. Also, Luca will have scumchums, so it's reasonable to assume a consensus on target.

[Norfolk Boy1]

What's the plan for when I flip town? Blindly vote Not Mafia?

Think logically. Not Mafia has lied about me. I get eliminated. I flip town. Why does Not Mafia put himself in that position so early?

Also, as scum, if there is a miselimination to push, why does Not Mafia choose me and not an easier miselimination that could have fewer consequences?

You need to think this through, I reckon.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Why would town!N_M fake an guilty?
That just seems really outlandish to me.

Because Not Mafia?

I'm not going to claim by the way, so anyone can feel free to hammer if they are that lazy.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Maje sure to review my wagon and specifically those that voted rapidly without questioning whether Not Mafia was telling the truth.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Work it out. You're about to go 2-0 up in the 'totally wrong or totally scum' game.

[Norfolk Boy1]

@NB1

Also, if you’re town and think we’ll not eliminate Not_Mafia then you’re completely delusional. If he’s pulling another Guillotina he’ll pay the consequences, we should never reward such shit level play by assuming for even a second it’s done in good faith.

I don't agree. Logic behind decisions should always be looked into.

I'm a Vanilla Townie. I was making Doctor noises in the hope of attracting a nightkill and protecting power roles.

[Norfolk Boy1]

Norfolk, if you are town, please just claim and don't be a cocky asshat. I understand mafia is a frustrating game at times, but don't look at Nero's actions yesterday as what to do when being voted.

Utter garbage.

If I just give the answers you miss out on everyone else's read of a situation. It's not asshattery.

[Norfolk Boy1]

What are your legacy reads, Boy?

Town:

Norway
Binatog
PlusJOYED
Andres
Chkflp

Scum:

Gamma
DGB
Luca
Rainy Cat

Everyone else in the middle.

Where are the doctor noises?

Posts 430, 519, 707, 734, 1730, 1952, 2523. All have deliberate language and phrasing that I hoped scum would pick up on.