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[BBmolla]

wouldnt be a fun normal without nero cain and dgb

VOTE: samantha97

how dare you try to escape

[BBmolla]

also I'm a miller

[BBmolla]

Have you ever fake claimed Miller before

yeah as scum

[BBmolla]

Have you ever fake claimed Miller before

yeah as scum

Could you please provide the game for reference.

We Didn't Playtest This

[BBmolla]

Have you ever fake claimed Miller before

yeah as scum

Could you please provide the game for reference.

We Didn't Playtest This

I just had a laugh seeing that after months of playing everybody lost in that game. Like how does that even happen? Hilarious.

All of Mafia were dead except for a traitor without a nightkill

Town was eliminated, leading to 1:1 where no elim could be achieved, so everyone lost

really the game should have been town victory and the mods were thoroughly bombarded(i can't find the word im looking for, but think of a bunch of people angrily complaining at endgame) for it

I'm really bothered that I can't find the right word... I keep wanting to say beleagured and bombarded and besomethinged

I must be tired today

[BBmolla]

BERATED

that's the word

anyway I'll find scum now

[BBmolla]

I also claimed miller as a mason lol

[BBmolla]

So basically BBMolla claims mason every day of the week?
How am i supposed to take your claim in this game seriously?

I guess don't?

like it doesn't really affect anything at the moment it's just so if there was a guilty report on me later I don't just be like "oh hey I'm a miller" and nobody believes me

it affects nothing atm

[BBmolla]

BERATED

that's the word

anyway I'll find scum now

That doesn’t make sense in context
How would being berated affect you like that?

no no

the mods were thoroughly berated post game about how dumb the game resolved

[BBmolla]

Knowing 16 should be in 15 is mafia 101; forgetting to do so has a heavily negative connotation.

I call it the BBmolla tell.

#TrustTheProcess

i just forgot i wanted to fake claim

[BBmolla]

bro ily but also ur scum so

you do this every game we play bro lmao

[BBmolla]

im not a miller but look how much fun we had

[BBmolla]

hi Titus!

chkflip is probably town

[BBmolla]

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

[BBmolla]

After Mini's posts I am undeterred.

[BBmolla]

Miller claim and MM and Andres wagons

After Mini's posts I am undeterred.

What makes you think that Scum would post that they have so much trouble keeping up with the pace of the game multiple times? Just curious.

They’re not struggling that much considering their fluffposting replying to posts

[BBmolla]

Vote mini cheeky

[BBmolla]

I’m in quite a happier place in my life despite Covid, it might be that tbh

Regardless I think it’s a life thing as opposed to game related

But it certainly helps that I’m town in a large

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Binatog13

[BBmolla]

nero's bad reads probably make him town tbh

[BBmolla]

heybbmolla I know why, but like, why switch votes? Gimme a sentence or two if you would.

I liked the DGB vote and the posts surrounding it so I'm trying to explore elsewhere

[BBmolla]

Do you usually scumread town!Titus?

You'd be fairly hard pressed to find someone who doesn't. The defacto site meta is Titus is scum.

Yes. Unfortunately scummers from a certain era will always SR me. When I was a newbie, I went 6 and 0 in my first six scumgames outside the newbie queue.

Combine that with my logic being somewhat out there as town means I rarely have an obvtown gene.

If it means anything I kinda think you’re Town this game

Which probably means your scum right lol

[BBmolla]

If anyone needs to contact me, please say “heybbmolla” without quotations, I will search it every time I come to catch up.

Might as well put this back in to play, much easier to stay caught up with not 40 players though

[BBmolla]

heybbmolla heybbmolla heybbmolla

hello

the Cheeky votes are boring

[BBmolla]

heybbmolla heybbmolla heybbmolla

hello

the Cheeky votes are boring

If one of them flips scum, both are scum.

she might be scum for the samantha replacement info, but other than that they're still boring votes. we know cheeky will post more content, there are loads more lurkfucks to sift through.

what's the boring tell cause I can probably disprove it, if not now then I will post game lel

im not a miller but look how much fun we had

I don't know how I missed this before. Probably trying to play these games with just my phone. You fake claimed miller? Was this move just for discussion purposes? This does not feel townie at all to me. Miller can cause a lot of chaos and confusion to the town, and fake claiming it at that.

Heybbmolla

BBmolla

Yeah I have a hard time with larges, but if something interesting happens early I have an easier time getting into it.

if I was scum I'd have stuck with it tbh

my problem with Molla is that him fakeclaiming miller is a bit

lamist

. by retracting his claim he saves himself from certain death. I kinda have the tinfoil that BB and npom were doing some gambit or something.

i mean that's fair cause I would do that but I didn't

nero's bad reads probably make him town tbh

and this is pssible TMI. How does he know the alignments of 5 other players? If not why are my reads "bad"?

lmfao

Me newbie, I’d guess.
Read over the existing wagons. I like cheaky’s least, and it’s not like we really get anything out of pushing on it if they’re away till the weekend. Save it for later and more posts imo.
Don’t like the mini wagon either.

I do like DGB’s and Joyads a lot more.

Between the two, DGB pinged me more, and I like the people on that wagon more, too. Posting off phone so quoting specifics is proving to be a pain, but I’m happy to elaborate. For now, I’m jumping on board.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DrippingGoofball

This is scum.

I think quiet just seems scummy as a player. I don't like his swift backoff though.

im thoroughly enjoying these theories about me being scum

[BBmolla]

nero's bad reads probably make him town tbh

and this is pssible TMI. How does he know the alignments of 5 other players? If not why are my reads "bad"?

lmfao

not helping

your fucking logic is ridiculous here nero do I actually need to explain why it's ridiculous

[BBmolla]

lots of Beetlejuice from molla

I'm very unbusy at the moment

[BBmolla]

nero's bad reads probably make him town tbh

and this is pssible TMI. How does he know the alignments of 5 other players? If not why are my reads "bad"?

lmfao

not helping

your fucking logic is ridiculous here nero do I actually need to explain why it's ridiculous

yes

I know for a fact one of your reads is wrong, and I disagree on another read, so they're bad

I don't need to be clairvoyant about every single one of your reads to call them bad bro

[BBmolla]

ah nvm that is scum, your reads are good sans your read of me nero

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

[BBmolla]

u

[BBmolla]

u

Mind explaining how?

you're not scumhunting you're just trying to look like you are

[BBmolla]

you're not scumhunting you're just trying to look like you are

Genuine question, now applied to both cheeky and mini

Is this really scummy? Like can someone give me a game or three where scum did this? It gets read as scummy, but to me it seems really bad for that exact reason.

um... I mean I can but literally look at any game where I'm scum cause I do it pretty plainly imo

[BBmolla]

like the only way to not be faking it is not see your role PM, cause sure there's a degree you can always pretend you're town, but as long as you're not cheating you know you're scum and that means your reads can't be real

this is why some people don't like multiball cause it's not the case there

[BBmolla]

nero's bad reads probably make him town tbh

and this is pssible TMI. How does he know the alignments of 5 other players? If not why are my reads "bad"?

lmfao

not helping

your fucking logic is ridiculous here nero do I actually need to explain why it's ridiculous

yes

I know for a fact one of your reads is wrong, and I disagree on another read, so they're bad

I don't need to be clairvoyant about every single one of your reads to call them bad bro

this is very basic and pretty lame. Writing my reads off as bad when you only disagree with yourself and 1 read doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Theoretically speaking it I could have all 4 scum in the pool. I think wondering whether or not this was TMI is a plenty valid concern and your violent reaction is both scummy and dumb. As an example, scum Skitter called my reads "bad" in a game when we were in (I mean they were but still...) so I don't think it's impossible that you could TMI like this as well.

okay Nero lol

[BBmolla]

nice Not_Mafia joined the game

[BBmolla]

Gamma where are your reads at. You seem like a lad who's had significant in thread interactions

Cheeky seems like scum. BBMolla also looks scummy. I also think scum are resistant to the Cheeky wagon mostly.
For townreads, I think Ranny, Titus, and chk might be my base.

Why do I look scummy

[BBmolla]

Meta is useful the less aware players are of their own meta

[BBmolla]

NPOM is just Not Good in general i was cringing at his reads and engagements. Mostly useless

I like that BC acknowledges this, Amished tell is a concern and I think the fact BC was willing to state this, and the way they stated it, seems towny.

I don’t have time to look at the moment can you quote the amished tell for me

I cite it more than anyone and it’s super situational

[BBmolla]

nice Not_Mafia joined the game

[BBmolla]

Tbh I kind of just want this day to end so I can do my night action

VOTE: Hayker

[BBmolla]

Yeah okay run me up I’ll see you in like five days when the wagon builds enough for me to claim

[BBmolla]

We’re at 50 pages let’s end this day before people start lurking

[BBmolla]

You can disagree with me about your newly shown antitown behavior, but that doesn't actually make it less antitown. Assuming scum saw, read, and discussed the claim actually gives me a whole hell of a lot less incentive to unvote you for what should be an obvious reason. But we can keep not talking about the thing you shouldn't have mentioned to begin with if that makes you feel better.

heybbmolla who hurt you

I’m here just waiting for a flip

Too much for me to sort through let’s just get rid of one of these questionable slots

[BBmolla]

Thought I'd give this a shot. Ordered by gut.

Spoiler:

Town

Andres (my locktown)
Bypasser Catcher (when does content, is real real good content.)

Towny

Vaxkiller (good content, great catch up posts, probably shouldn’t read Vax this high but just like them on gut)
Luca Blight (+town interactions p. much all the time, putting in work)
Gamma Emerald (trusting Bypasser read, liked them beforehand too, is scary, think it’s the avatar)
DrippingGoofball (thought responses to/posts since wagon on them were super towny)
Nero Cain (really liked them early, a bit quiet since but still read them here)
NorwegianboyEE (I would love to see if scum!Norwegian is capable of posting at this frequency + detail and not get caught out)

Null
Titus (do they have tells?)
chkflip (liked them early, kinda grumpy lately, null right now)
BBMolla (ha as if i’d read BB)
Norfolk Boy1 (town content, low post count, need more time to sort, but like his presence in the game)
Binatog13 (perfectly capable of this posting like he is as either alignment)
MiniMegabyte (still slandered from early wagon, but I didn’t find it too compelling then or now)
Momrangal (disagree with most reads/posts from them)

Scummy

plusJOYED (we want a readlist!)
Rannygazoo (I don’t think I’ve liked a single one of your posts. Sorry, Rainycat)

Scum

Hayker (my preferred low content wagon. didn’t like pop in at all. didn’t like Norwegian shade either.)
CheekyTeeky/NM (think just flips red, I understand the utility of wait and let sort themselves via claim, but idk, I like flipping red)

heybbmola good to see you. I am also pro flipping a slot soonish. Is there anything else to get out of today? Or are we just waiting for votes to consolidate.

I’m a bad one to ask for guidance, theoretically there is more to be found readswise but I just think it’s a lot of work off less and I think a flip makes our reads more accurate. There’s a point where I think too much info becomes a bad thing. Will be helpful later in the game tho.

[BBmolla]

ok im gonna claim it cause yolo but im mason with 1 person i placed in my townblofck.

bro why'd you claim it's gonna be obvious it's me

[BBmolla]

beep boop

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Nero Cain

I think Nero is town but I want day to end so whatever

E-1

[BBmolla]

I’ll hammer Nero if they get to E-1 and the game is stalling. I don’t know what happened to DGB or Molla for example a single thought from them might be useful.

Too much shit to sift through while I’m moving, I’d rather get flips and go from there

[BBmolla]

Gg I was scum too

Crazy that it was a 11 person scum team how did that pass normal review

[BBmolla]

who the fuck kills mini

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Chkflip

gut

but im still catching up

[BBmolla]

I have the game like this right now:

Town
{Nero Cain [Vanilla Town], MiniMegabyte/Mathblade [Town Role Watcher]}
Lean Town
{CheekyTeeky/Not_Mafia, Gamma Emerald, Momrangal}
Slight Lean Town
{Binatog13, Vaxkiller, BBMolla, Titus, chkflip}
Neutral
{plusJOYED, Hayker, quiet}
Slight Lean Scum
{DGB, NPOM/Bypasser Catcher, Rannygazoo}
Lean Scum
{NorwegianboyEE, Luca Blight}
Scum
{Norfolk Boy1}

BBMolla is my most uncertain Town Read, so take that one with a grain of salt. If Norfolk flips Town, flip with Not_Mafia obviously.

it'll help when I give some reads today

[BBmolla]

oh lel nice guilty

also intent to hammer on Norfolkboy please claim

[BBmolla]

look out heybbmolla

here comes heyandres

im thoroughly enjoying all of andres posts

[BBmolla]

I’m probably somewhat overreacting to you because you’re in the shortlist of players that really didn’t look good from yesterday. But maybe I’m giving you too much grief and Norway too little.

Quiet looks scummy in general you should read our newbie game together, just sayin

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Nero Cain

I think Nero is town but I want day to end so whatever

E-1

I think this guy is scum btw.

When I was reading through, this was the first time I thought Nero would flip Town, as it seemed like a typical informed scum post when an elim is imminent.

did you read my post

that's literally what I said

[BBmolla]

who the fuck kills mini

Feigning ignorance. Obviously they didn't kill

Mini

, they killed the replacement.

i love mathblade but mathblade isn't like a zmuffinman or anything, mini died for being mini or for someone trying to frame titus or some dumb shit like that

regardless it was a bad kill lul

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Norfolk Boy

if there's no claim in the next 2 days someone just hammer i'm not looking to play games and it's norfolk's fault for not claiming in that case

[BBmolla]

Work it out. You're about to go 2-0 up in the 'totally wrong or totally scum' game.

o boy you're sure showing us

or you could just fucking claim and then it's wouldn't be your fault that you got elimmed

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[BBmolla]

quiet I’d also like to say for the record this is an unusual game not all larges go like this haha

[BBmolla]

Hey all can we stop engaging NM? He's scum trolling. Thanks.

[BBmolla]

mom is town

end day please

[BBmolla]

yeah idk why so many of ya'll engaged him that was whack

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Plusjoyed

[BBmolla]

nice Not_Mafia joined the game

After chkflip and myself vote N_M trollscum, BBmolla posts this.

It's... a strange reaction. Does anyone understand it? I see it a the meekest defense possible but it may be my imagination.

I posted the original post when that dude joined with NM's avatar

then NM actually joined so I quoted it

that's all that post was

[BBmolla]

I think Quiet is town

[BBmolla]

vote me DGB I really don't care

[BBmolla]

I'm VT I just thought it'd be nice to pull a nightkill

[BBmolla]

I thought the mini kill was dumb besides mini luckily being a PR

[BBmolla]

the reasons people think I'm scum are pretty stupid

[BBmolla]

VOTE: BBMolla
Idk what the current reasons are here but to throw on more firewood, there was the boring tell during D1 that I still remember quite well, and Cheeky’s slot flipped scum.

When I die can someone quote this so that Gamma knows that the boring tell is a shit tell and I told you so

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Hayker

[BBmolla]

I’m open to that as well
I need to get my thoughts in order before I vote there though.

why before voting there but fine voting me before getting thoughts in order?

[BBmolla]

vote me DGB I really don't care

Are you OK?

I’m not going to beg and yell and scream because tbh it’s not THAT big of a deal if I’m miselimmed right now and tbh we might catch scum from their easy hop ons to my wagon

If people are going to over analyze a joke post to the point where they’re using it to connect me to flipped scum idk if I even want to be alive in this town

[BBmolla]

If I had strong scumreads im sure it’d be a different story but this game is still very big and there’s still a bunch of slots we need to plunk off to find more scum lurkers

[BBmolla]

I have been blatantly flagrant with my play here so to see people thinking it’s some sort of big scum plot instead of what it is just makes me scoff

[BBmolla]

If it’s means anything Luca’s posts on me seem the scummiest

[BBmolla]

The random claims, the lack of care about my vote, these are simply not things that exist in my scumplay

[BBmolla]

If I’m scum claiming Miller I’m holding onto that claim till death, I’m 1v1ing Chkflip day 1 insisting that claim is true, not backing off

[BBmolla]

Do you understand why, among all th players, you are among the most scum read? Iso yourself if you must.

Because you assume I’m worse at being scum than I actually am

[BBmolla]

The random claims, the lack of care about my vote,

these are simply not things that exist in my scumplay

Meta is useful the less aware players are of their own meta

Oh man you sure got me

My point is I do things for fun, and to do the things I’ve done as scum here as town would not be fun

[BBmolla]

Fake claiming Miller as scum and riding it to the end is fun and I’d never retract even if it were a day one elim on me

There’s being aware of meta and then there’s just shit I wouldn’t do

Whenever I play Among Us, I spam sabotages. People catch me cause of this and I could easily not to do sabotages to seem innocent... but that’s so fucking boring. I’d rather spam the sabos and say I’m being framed.

I’m very easy to miselim, if I’m scum I don’t give people even easier reasons to do so

[BBmolla]

Do you have any strong TR's, BBMolla?

I suggest not WIFOM'ing and just do some Townie stuff if you are Town (which I doubt).

Andres and Mom

Your push on me sucks Luca and you’re gonna look like garbage when I flip

[BBmolla]

DGB also very likely town

And I feel like Quiet is probs town

[BBmolla]

heybbmola
What are your thoughts on chkflp, Luca, and vax? Any or all.

Chkflips reaction to the Mini death was terrible. I sort of like him alive cause he tries to sanity check the bad pushes against me. Tbh it’s probably scum white knighting but what can I say, I need the support.

Lucas push on me is awful and I don’t know enough about how good they are to determine if it’s bad town or scum

Vax iirc was lean town but I don’t recall a lot of what they did this game

[BBmolla]

molla i mean that in the kindest possible way... the salty attitude is really interfering with your message.

The only way the salt won’t be there is if I hide it and I’m trying to be as transparent as possible

[BBmolla]

Why is Momrangal Town? Please elaborate.

Their stances and attitudes towards the different events during the game

Do you not think Mom is town? If so, why?

[BBmolla]

You all seriously think I’d dissuade a wagon I’m buddy’s with by calling it boring? Truly?

[BBmolla]

I've already said why.

You claim my push is terrible, but you clearly haven't even read my posts.

Because everything I’ve done is so blatant so for you to have a case it’s based off me being horrendous and I’m offended

[BBmolla]

Like meta aside, I played flagrantly because in my opinion the first couple days in larges should be policy elims anyway

So now to get the meat of things and have to defend against arguments that basically amount to “BBmolla is awful scum” is annoying

[BBmolla]

Lucas muted

Lemme know if y’all have any questions he’s dumb or scum and not worth my time

[BBmolla]

You all seriously think I’d dissuade a wagon I’m buddy’s with by calling it boring? Truly?

Why wouldn't a player think that of any other player making the statement you made?

Defending yourself with "I'd never do that" is not very convincing.

For myself, I will judge you by the quality of your reads.

Different players making that as scum say different things about each of them.

I posted reads what are your thoughts

[BBmolla]

I’m gonna change my mind I think, I don’t know what benefit Chkflip has to buddy me here and he’s done it all game

[BBmolla]

Has as scum

I really really hate the post mini death post tho

[BBmolla]

My guess right now would be BBMolla, Momrangal, PlusJOYED scumteam, presuming there's four in total.

Wow

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Titus

Reason:
A: Mathblade kill points to Titus
B: Their VCA is bad and they are pushing the vote on likely town.

Mathblade kill would be Titus purposefully and for no reason framing herself

Is that what you’re saying in A?

I’m not saying it’s wrong cause Titus could pull that I just want to be clear that the most blatant reason for Maths death was to frame Titus and Titus scum would be aware of that

[BBmolla]

Fairly sure Binatog is town.

Why?

[BBmolla]

I don’t think Titus how towntelled once to me this game

[BBmolla]

I lean town on Gamma cause I genuinely believe that Gamma believes their stupid ass tell

[BBmolla]

My Binatog read is pending on their weird claim that “helps both alignments”

[BBmolla]

I’m probably content to sheep Andres and Mom

Mom why are you so convinced on Nor?

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Luca

seemsgood.gov

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Titus

Reason:
A: Mathblade kill points to Titus
B: Their VCA is bad and they are pushing the vote on likely town.

Mathblade kill would be Titus purposefully and for no reason framing herself

Is that what you’re saying in A?

I’m not saying it’s wrong cause Titus could pull that I just want to be clear that the most blatant reason for Maths death was to frame Titus and Titus scum would be aware of that

Ok so my thoughts are this:
Scum!Titus (obviously) knows killing Mathblade would implicate her and thusly it would seem pointless to assume this makes Titus scum because mafia typically don't make dumb plays. But Mathblade replacing into a town slot (which we know because doh they died) could in theory be even more catastrophic for scum!Titus because Mathblade has a lot of knowledge about Titus and how they play, so if Titus knows Mathblade might potentially expose her as scum then it is worth the effort of killing the slot and then dealing with the potential aftermath rather than needing to fight Mathblade head on.

Very fair, I have no argument against that.

[BBmolla]

I absolutely detest this kind of argument. You aren't the only offender here in this game which has made me more hesitant, but it always comea off as believe me guys I swearm I recall so vividly in my first large game how Mastin claimed he must be town because he was having fun. While the argument is obviously not word for word the same, but it's a terribly weak case and defense. At least prpvide some meta examples from your past I can check if you are going to make such a claim. Otherwise it's completely baseless.

mastin is a she

and mastin and I are very different players

look for meta yourself, if I show you then you're letting me make the narrative

[BBmolla]

My guess right now would be BBMolla, Momrangal, PlusJOYED scumteam, presuming there's four in total.

Wow

Did I hit the jackpot?

DING DING DING

yall read like trumpers who are complaining about their first amendment rights being taken away when they're banned from twitter

[BBmolla]

Chkflips reaction to the Mini death was terrible.

Unless I'm mistaken, I've not played with Math previously and the only mention I can think of to the name is the time Titus, their brother (All I remembered was it was SOMETHINGblade), and I drove to San Fran to play board games with a handful of scummers. Was a good time. Curious to know how my reaction was bad?

yeah nvm it looks fine now idk why it pinged me so bad back then

[BBmolla]

Just because it's a "bad tell" doesn't mean it can't still catch scum.

that is exactly what that means

[BBmolla]

Just because it's a "bad tell" doesn't mean it can't still catch scum.

that is exactly what that means

except it literally got scum limmed in a very recent game
don't talk shit about what you don't know

If this time and that time are the only times it works 50% of the time.

If a tell works 50% of the time it's a shit tell

I mean if not then fuck man I might as well make up a fucking tell each time I call someone scum

Luca is scum cause of the Luca tell, it's a tell where wherever they say I'm scum they're scum

[BBmolla]

On the bright side, here's gonna be some fresh meta to fight off morons in the future who are using the arguments ya'll are using so ty

[BBmolla]

Lmfao

[BBmolla]

I was lying so technically you weren’t wrong and I’ve did that same thing when I claimed Miller as scum before

Sounds like a legit tell to me

[BBmolla]

I'm not telling Plusjoyed to replace out

But it would certainly help whatever team they are on if they did

[BBmolla]

Did plusJOYED’s post allow them to circumvent the prod? That’s ridiculous. If they’re refusing to contribute so blatantly, then I actually think Titus has a point and we should execute there. I just don’t want to do it now - I actually think {Luca, Hayker, quiet} is certain to have Scum in it.

I don't want to elim quiet but I'm fine with either of the other two

[BBmolla]

Same to BB I guess

they're scum or dumb in my eyes so a good elim

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Plusjoyed

[BBmolla]

I’m gonna submit a Vig on Luca and hope that I’m secretly a vig and it goes through

[BBmolla]

Just letting you know scum if more of you hop on my wagon it will be blatant you are scum upon my flip and I don’t recommend

[BBmolla]

Scum are hiding in (Luca, Vax, Gamma, Plusjoyed, Hayker)

[BBmolla]

VOTE: BBmolla

im vt boys later

fuck your vca

[BBmolla]

we're never getting past this I'm gonna deal with bullshit scumreads from morons and scum all game

so here

let's catch all the scum and dumb people

[BBmolla]

I'd like to reiterate on my townflip:

DGB your reads are bad

Luca you're bad or scum

Gamma your tell is shit

[BBmolla]

DGB your reads are bad

gonna highlight this one

[BBmolla]

nah fuck off bro, just end this so I can get my satisfaction please

[BBmolla]

I don't know how good Luca is normally, if Luca is a bad player they could be town

[BBmolla]

Why is Hayker in your townreads Andre

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Plusjoyed

[BBmolla]

Hayker (6): Rannygazoo, BBMolla, Titus, Norfolk Boy1, Andresvmb, Nero Cain

this wagon looks town why are you not elimming Hayker?

[BBmolla]

by you I mean we

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Regardless of whether me or Plus go I think we're almost done whittling out the impossible to read players.

[BBmolla]

luca you're awful at this game

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last post Norwegian should be looked at tomorrow

[BBmolla]

Tbh everyone on my wagon is trash and their opinions should be considered invalid the rest of the game

[BBmolla]

You don’t actually think I’m scum bro

[BBmolla]

Like come on don’t bullshit me

At least some of these fuckers are just bad

But you I don’t see that

[BBmolla]

BBmola is...I find myself in Mom’s camp. Day4 policy elim feels bad, and what does BB flip tell us? Heybbmola please help me sort you because there just isn’t a ton to go on, and I know this is kinda your vibe, but I need stuff to go on.

What up quiet just woke up

I agree with your Vax comments I share similar sentiments

[BBmolla]

What can I do for you?

[BBmolla]

DGB your reads are trash and so are your posts

I still enjoy you though

[BBmolla]

Like, there’s this clear divide of competency that has formed

Scum think I’m an easy miselim so they thought they could just plop a vote on me

I personally think Norwegian is far too competent to be voting me

I’ll elaborate let me get on the computer

[BBmolla]

Incompetent:
Gamma Emerald (His vote on me is because of an awful tell.)
DGB (This is pretty standard for DGB reads tbh, DGB is always a wildcard in terms of accuracy.)
Hayker (22 posts, half of them are about my miller claim, including their vote on me)
Luca (Conf biased on me, or scum, more likely town conf biased atm)
Binatog13 (they're town probably unless they were coached to do a weird claim)
PlusJOYED (hard to be competent when you aren't here)

Competent:
NorwegianboyEE (The only competent one imo that is voting me. What are your reads Norwegian that you think the wagon on me is good?)
Titus (Titus may be a bit too competent this game but I'm unconcerned atm.)
Momrangal
chkflip (While I have concerns he is white knighting me, I feel like there is a point where you take the easy miselim and chkflip is far past that with how much he's defending me.)
Andresvmb
quiet (someone actually did their research so I don't have to go meta myself, ty)
Vaxkiller (Their content is very non-confrontational. If I had to guess where scum was in this group, I'd look at Vax.)

If PlusJOYED and Hayker are both town, scum is likely split between these two groups. A good guess for scumteam for me would be something like Gamma, Norwegian, Vax. Norwegian hopped on for some whack reasons, Gamma's vote is based off the whack tell, and Vax is just waiting for the wagon to go through without having all three on.

There's other possibilities, Titus could be in there but that'd become clearer with flips.

We have so many elims we need to go through :/

[BBmolla]

BB, I think what I want from you is takes on wagons that don’t involve you.

I’m still open to hearing your take on Norwegian, or how the wagon has developed or whatever else, but I’d be curious, for example, if you think Gamma is town for their push on cheeky/their play this game more generally, your current stance on Titus/chkflp, any reads you’ve formed from interactions with the Nero wagon, the rest of the game. Otherwise it kinda just feels like you’re slamming people who voted you, which has some use if you get flipped, but isn’t really a case against flipping you. And I prefer to flip scum, so if I can feel more certain about reading you, then PlusJOY or my stupid Titus/Vax push becomes more viable.

I know I'm town so I'm mostly using that info for when you all know as well

But I can look at other wagons

[BBmolla]

@mod: PlusJOYED has not posted in two days can you please prod and see if they still want to play this game

[BBmolla]

Also, for the upcoming snark, I'm fine being put in the incompetent category lel

[BBmolla]

As a sidenote, I played last team mafia with Cheeky and is why I figured they'd be readable given time.

Vax voted Cheeky first, Gamma second

Egoooo

VOTE: cheeky teeky

VOTE: cheekyteeky

Sorry guys for the mass spam I don't have much time but that should be enough stirring until my return xx

This is a scum approach

does anyone have scum meta on either of these players?

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We have so many elims we need to go through :/

This is where the ghost of Bypasser Catcher floats in, flailing madly about, trying desperately to grab attention toward their posts about *checks notes* oh right a townbloc.

For real though if the first vote count of the day says anything at all, it tells us that we're way too fucking divided for this not to be a long game.

At least my death unites you all by proven what half of you already thought.

Maybe they'll start listening to the competent players when that happens

probs not

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I'll be doing my analysis later today. I get I look real bad here if NM flips scum.

That being said, what happens if a checker checks someone without an action?

I'd think Titus, the person focused on VCA, would have the forethought to avoid this upon the eventual NM flip, no?

[BBmolla]

Andres interactions with scum NM don't seem like scum theatre to me

Do you think my interactions with Cheeky/N_M have been indicative of scum?

I don't think they're not indicative of scum for the record. I think it interesting you do.

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I liked DGB's start of day posts, even though the one proposing my "Not_Mafia joined" posts were some sort of defense. Like in the sense that they seemed town.

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NorwegianboyEE (The only competent one imo that is voting me. What are your reads Norwegian that you think the wagon on me is good?)

Are you throwing Burden of Proficiency at me?
Of the unconfirmed town i read Gamma, Luca, Andres, DPG, Quiet as town. That means i am sorting in: Plusjoyed, BBMolla, Chkflip, Titus, Vaxkiller, Hayker.
Of the two wagons the one on you has most of my townreads, meanwhile my scumreads are pushing PlusJoyed.
So what makes you think i would be prioritizing Plus as my elimination of choice? I’m unfazed by your AtE. I do like your recent solvey posts better, but until you can explain in which manner the interactions between N_M and Luca/Gamma make them more likely scum i don’t see a big reason to change my vote yet.

I'm not saying you should prioritize Plus, I'm just saying your hop on to my wagon was awfully formal.

Your explanation is good though

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So, if you were given info that I was town, you would admit that at least one of your town reads are wrong?

or do you think my wagon can possibly be all town even if I'm town?

[BBmolla]

Why has the Hayker content that has convinced the others that they are town not convinced you?

[BBmolla]

I'm town and an easy miselim, why is the wagon so hard to push through if there are so many scum not on the wagon?

Are two (or I guess even three from your perspective) scum committing so hard to white knighting me for the long game and just kind of hope that town will finish me off?

I guess in the possibility that me and Plusjoyed are town that's possible

But I mean I self voted earlier and the wagon still didn't go through

I am town, what is the deal with my wagon here

[BBmolla]

the simpler solution for me is there are two scum already on the wagon hoping it'll go through, even more sense if Plusjoyed is also scum

[BBmolla]

@Binatog and Vax

Why aren't ya'll voting and where do you stand

[BBmolla]

Alright I've got things to do, I'll be around

[BBmolla]

the simpler solution for me is there are two scum already on the wagon hoping it'll go through, even more sense if Plusjoyed is also scum

BBMolla (5): Gamma Emerald, DrippingGoofball, Hayker, Luca Blight, NorwegianboyEE

And you are saying these two are most likely Luca and Gamma?

Luca kind of just seems like bad town in a lot of points (although he didn't post at all the day NM was confirmed scum as far as I saw) and I refuse to believe the scumteam is comprised of simply incompetent seeming people hence why You/Gamma/Vax looked nice.

But that means Gamma and Vax bussed NM hard which isn't great but possible

Everyone townreading me seems fairly town.

[BBmolla]

Titus given a PlusJoyed scumflip what's a reasonable scumteam

Titus given a PlusJoyed townflip what's a reasonable scumteam

[BBmolla]

and it looks like I might have to recend my Vax suspicion as this post isn't even convincing myself.

Sensible_chuckle.gif

In all seriousness tho. Don't bring me into fade or lose, I can't handle it.

hey

so can you give me where you're at?

why are you not hopping on either wagon?

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Incompetent:
DGB (This is pretty standard for DGB reads tbh, DGB is always a wildcard in terms of accuracy.)

How do you know my reads are bad, though? Was I wrong on N_M?

Yeeting N_M's fake guilty doesn't count.

I said you're a wildcard cause sometimes you're right and people just shrug you off

But your read on me is wrong

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Titus given a PlusJoyed scumflip what's a reasonable scumteam

Titus given a PlusJoyed townflip what's a reasonable scumteam

@Titus

I really want to hear this so I want to make sure it's seen

[BBmolla]

Don't end day before I hear more from Titus and Vax please

[BBmolla]

once I read Titus's ISO I realized how much our gamethoughts align

Hencewhy I want their possible scumteams because I'm having trouble

[BBmolla]

once I read Titus's ISO I realized how much our gamethoughts align

Hencewhy I want their possible scumteams because I'm having trouble

We need to yeet plusJOYED. If we wait, someone is going to come in on a white horse calling them town and there's a nonzero chance you'll be yeeted instead!

I don't disagree with your concerns. It'd also save a poor player from having to catchup in this. I still would like to hear from Titus before a flip if able.

[BBmolla]

Look whatever y’all wanna do I’m gonna be busy tonight but I’ll try to pop in if anyone has more questions for me

[BBmolla]

Putting together precise teams in two separate worlds is difficult.

I've just lost the mojo for this game. I'd rather just see a flip and work from there. I rarely do precise teams without hypotheticals. I do pools instead.

Can you post the pools then

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Or quote me back to them if I missed them

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If it really is Hayker and Plusjoyed then we're in a good spot

[BBmolla]

Can I die please

I don’t want to be miselimmed in LYLO

It’s just soul crushing

[BBmolla]

Look AtE so I must be scum over all these votes you’re doing

[BBmolla]

This game is lost

[BBmolla]

VOTE: BBmolla

Yeah this is the play

I need you guys to see my alignment if you’re going to accurately solve this game

I don’t disagree on one or both of Titus/Chk being scum at this point but if you flip one and you’re wrong you’re just going to jump back on me

None of you are ever going to read me correctly so this is the only way we possibly get into the correct reality and win

And if none of that means anything look at all my AtE I must be scum cause y’all hate that

[BBmolla]

Like WTF is this BBmolla?

I have absolutely zero confidence in any of the town leaders to not miselim me in LYLO

[BBmolla]

If people still think I’m scum kill me

I don’t want to be this fucking miselim that scum hangs onto till then and pushes through

[BBmolla]

Can I die please

I don’t want to be miselimmed in LYLO

It’s just soul crushing

Don't be such a Plusjoyed.

I’m playing to my win condition

The only way we win is if I get the loonies into reality

The reality that yesterday was two town wagons

[BBmolla]

Look at these fucking responses

“Molla might be scum yeah no lim today though”

Get fucked and elim me now

[BBmolla]

I’m not going to be your game winning miselim

Fuck off

[BBmolla]

Luca has plenty of reasons I’m scum just have him convince you

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Vax you thought I was scum
Is that not proving my point

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The only way we win is if I get the loonies into reality

The reality that yesterday was two town wagons

Ok, so vote one of Titus or Chkflip.
Crying about being a future miselim is just baby talk.

Nah it’s strategy

Like I said I’m being held onto as a miselim and I don’t play like that

If I don’t have people who are going to be able to correctly read me I’m better off dead

[BBmolla]

You know who else did noise?

Not_Mafia

So I must be scum

[BBmolla]

I’m waiting to see what Chk posts

I still think we should elim me

VT, popcorn Chk

[BBmolla]

I was scum reading bbmolla, but how does scum!bbmolla come in and do this?

also I'd only lim bbmolla rn if there wasn't any more direct leads
we've got a couple days before limlo I'm p sure

If we don’t hit correctly today I’m probably next

So we better be right

UNVOTE:

[BBmolla]

Mom who you thinking today

[BBmolla]

Nvm it says right there lol

[BBmolla]

Binatog did you get a result last night

[BBmolla]

This VCA is starting to sound like bull.

Why?

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How are there at least three scum here and why is this game so hard

Genuinely I’m at a loss, I could towncase anyone

[BBmolla]

We know the Rolecop targeted Mom the night before

The quiet kill is really random and weird

[BBmolla]

It’s okay I think the quiet kill means y’all are right on Chk and that saddens me

[BBmolla]

So we're just waiting on a DGB claim then?

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I thought scum!flip was going to claim my role, since it's already been outed, and I was hoping he'd get caught with the wrong night choices.

I'm the lazy roleblocker.

N1 GE
N2 Norwegian
N3 quiet
N4 Momrangal

So you blocked Quiet the night where weve been theorizing that Quiet had a Chkflip guilty?

[BBmolla]

Did Chkflip say Mom was vanilla before the Rolecop checked Mom?

[BBmolla]

Chk said he claimed Mom was vanilla before she claimed but if he just meant around the time we were discussing Mom being a vanilla from the rolecop it's meaningless

I was just making sure it wasn't something said day 2, cause that would look very good if so

[BBmolla]

Titus is Scum, so.

Who are her partners?

[BBmolla]

this game is whack

who the fuck is lying to me

[BBmolla]

what the fuck is happening

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I’m kind of content to sheep mom cause idk wtf is happening tbh

[BBmolla]

Hope you’re okay Titus

[BBmolla]

Titus seems to think DGB is scum, but the Mafia wiki seems to indicate 'Lazy' is a Town-only modifier.

it's in the any alignment category on the normal page

[BBmolla]

Hey I exist it's just I'm completely lost