Mafia 83 - Game Ended Scum Win!

[Battle Mage]

Vote: K7

BM

[Battle Mage]

Aw. I love you too, Cow.

And on that note, I'll

Vote: Battle Mage

, since I've never gotten to do that before.

It's always nice to meet a fan.

*signs autograph*

BM

[Battle Mage]

If you give autographs, then I want one as well. I'm a huge fan of your pregame of Mafia 82.

Lol

Unvote, Vote: Yaw

Now i recall, you are the guy who i always seem to ask to replace into my games, and always says no! shocking!

BM

[Battle Mage]

this game appears to be a lurker-fest.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Plus, three players have yet to get here. It's been about a day and we're on the second page. We're not doing horribly.

When you're used to 10 page pre-games, this game is half-dead.

Unvote, Vote: K7

Maybe a lynch will help us progress?

BM

[Battle Mage]

He's at -3 now. I think we can afford another vote before people start getting fidgety.

BM

[Battle Mage]

He's at -3 now. I think we can afford another vote before people start getting fidgety.

BM

BM, why do you have to act like scum?

It's not scummy to run players up in the random stage.

FoS: COW

[Battle Mage]

In case you hadn't noticed, this is Killa 7 we're talking about. He's the closest thing we're likely to get to a policy-lynch. I have no qualms with running him up to -2 when he is on full-throttle lurker mode. We need SOMETHING controversial to get the game started. But, to be perfectly honest, id be fine with him claiming right about now.

BM

[Battle Mage]

We need SOMETHING controversial to get the game started. But, to be perfectly honest, id be fine with him claiming right about now.

Is this a serious suggestion? Why would you want someone to claim on page 2 of the thread? Further, I think it's a tad early to classify someone as a "lurker" or to even be thinking about policy lynches. Is there any reason why you're doing so?

*facepalm*

do me a favour kiddo? If you're gonna try attacking me, or anyone for that matter, the least you can do is not attack for something that the person has been quite open about, and you simply haven't read properly.

It's never too early to classify someone as a lurker. If you've been reading, you'll know why K7 is being wagonned, as opposed to say...you.

But, its never too late to change your mind eh?

Unvote, Vote: Reclusion

Quick bandwagons are the key to this game. If we ACT LIKE SISSIES who are afraid to lynch, then pressure wagons dont work. Thats why i may come across a bit brash. But as far as any of you are concerned, the wagon is for real.

How can it ever be TOO EARLY to think about policy lynches? 0.o

BM

[Battle Mage]

Gee, thanks for clarifying, Battle Mage.

any time.

@Tovarish- i guess all i can say is, where have you been hiding?

[Battle Mage]

Gee, thanks for clarifying, Battle Mage.

any time.

*ahem*

You're completely ducking the questions that I've asked. Please answer them.

thay've already been answered by my alt.

BM

[Battle Mage]

school mostly, I don't get to post until the evening, or early morning, and almost never the early morning

not what i meant. I meant why are you claiming to be surprised that i'm playing...exactly how i always do. lol

BM

[Battle Mage]

Unvote, Vote: Alvinz

Reclusion is playing the game.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Five more votes to lynch killa seven-scum. Gogogo!

Reclusion, I don't see how this post is any different from battlemage's latest posts, except for BM asking k7 to claim.

My post was made in jest. That should have been made apparent with the addition of the "Gogogo!" at the end of it. Battle Mage, on the other hand, seriously requested a claim on page 2 of the thread and labeled killa seven as a "lurker" when the thread hadn't even been open long enough for him to be considered a lurker

in this game

. That lurker comment just seemed like a misrepresentation of killa seven to me, so I called BM out about it.

See Return of the Mafia, when i encouraged quick bandwagons running people upto claims if they didnt react well under pressure. Same kinda thing in SSWW3. Both games i was town.

thay've already been answered by my alt.

Your alt answered my questions, eh? Well then your "alt" said the following:

And it

is

too early to classify someone as a lurker. This game just began yesterday. How could someone possibly be considered a lurker after a day's worth of content?

He's a chronic lurker, that's how.

But this "chronic lurker" variation of k7 wasn't what you were referring to. You said the following:

I have no qualms with running him up to -2 when he is on full-throttle lurker mode.

This means that you pretty much thought he was lurking within this game; not that you considered him to be a chronic lurker. I'd vote you for all of this and for your inability to answer questions but the last thing I need is an OMG UR OMGUS-ing me argument. Just know that you’ve definitely caught my attention.

Also

unvote

for now.

Chronic lurker isnt exactly right. But he's not the most active person around, even at his best.

You're afraid to vote for me because it will be seen as OMGUS?

For real?

BM

[Battle Mage]

I had not seen BM around. At the point I mentioned he was fully away, I checked his posting history to confirm it. Obviously, that changes if there's evidence to the contrary.

Yeh sorry, i was completely absent from the site for a few days, and only really caught up with games yesterday. I genuinely forgot i was in this game until i got a prod about 2 minutes ago.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Of course I can pull this of. Look at K7. After our talk he entered.

BM after joining (did you want also want to play with me and xtoxm?) you start with a possible OMGUS vote. Anything to add to it?

I dont understand the question. 0.o

BM

[Battle Mage]

I tend to think that people like

BM

and killa seven are

seen as easy targets for scum on D1

. And that extends to all lurkers. I'm a bit suspicious of Yaw at the moment for that fact.

Along those thoughts,

both Battle Mage

and iamuser put in votes for k7 that got him to L-3 within a 20 minute time period. Both those

feel opportunistic

.

hypocrite much?

BM

[Battle Mage]

which 1?

[Battle Mage]

From the look of it, it seems to be mere OMGUS. Reclusion's reaction is a bit jumpy- in saying that Alvinz put me near to a lynch, which is in fact, not the case. But Hasdgfas caught my attention with his post 95.

Unvote, Vote: Hasdgfas

BM

[Battle Mage]

You're afraid to vote for me because it will be seen as OMGUS?

For real?

BM

Afraid isn't the right word, no. I'm just saying that what you did earlier on was more of a minor offense and probably wasn't worth a vote at that time when I know it's likely someone will turn it into an OMGUS argument (whether it be you or someone else). I don't want to clog up the thread with something like that.

Seems a tad over-defensive. But then, what do you expect from someone who's policy is to ignore all consequences of my actions.

Reclusion's reaction is a bit jumpy- in saying that Alvinz put me near to a lynch, which is in fact, not the case.

How closely are you reading the thread? I questioned alvinz95 because he said that he hadn't really bothered to read the thread before placing his vote. I wanted to test to see if he was telling the truth about this by asking him if he checked the vote counts before placing his vote on you.

I'd say i'm reading fairly closely. Maybe not closely enough to be a mind-reader quite yet.

BM

[Battle Mage]

unvote, vote alvinz

Any reason for voting BM?

No reason. Random.

you do realize we had actually started a little bit of talking and random voting there wasn't really useful at all, right?

I find it rather fishy that Has literally repeated the obvious in a really condescending way. I'm always unnerved by people who make a determined effort to be seen acting in the interests of the town.

And Netman could well be bussing here, which is duely noted.

BM

[Battle Mage]

And Netman could well be bussing here, which is duely noted.

Asking questions about something that hasn't been asked before isn't bussing, and for it to really be bussing, I would have had to vote for him.

You are trying to tie Hasdgfas to me. You're lucky i havent switched my vote to you aswell. In the back of my mind a voice is saying that you are putting yourself way too 'out there' to be scum, but then, if you look at my town win record, you'll see why i dont always listen to those voices.
And no, you dont have to vote to bus.

I'm always unnerved by people who make a determined effort to be seen acting in the interests of the town.

Acting against the interests of the town would be.... less unnerving?

Dont be deliberately obtuse. And read the exact wording of my comment before replying, in future. He was making an effort to LOOK protown. I'm far more inclined to trust somebody who acts openly scummy, and clearly doesnt care, because that's how townies behave.

BM

[Battle Mage]

I agree that it seems ridiculous but what's scummy about it?

Hope you dont mind if i field this one. It is scummy to try and tie two people together on very shoddy reasoning. Simple as.

And Netman could well be bussing here, which is duely noted.

BM

What about these series of posts makes you think of bussing? Netman isn't even voting for hasdgfas at this current time so how could it possibly be bussing?

You dont need to vote to bus. The whole concept of bussing is trying to get a buddy lynched, by putting pressure on them. That doesnt necessitate a vote. I see more incentive for Netman to bring himself out into the open if he has a buddy in danger, and wants to secure something from it, than if 2 townies are fighting, which would make him look like an idiot. And i've already addressed the lack of a protown motive.

BM

[Battle Mage]

unvote, vote alvinz

Any reason for voting BM?

No reason. Random.

you do realize we had actually started a little bit of talking and random voting there wasn't really useful at all, right?

I find it rather fishy that Has literally repeated the obvious in a really condescending way. I'm always unnerved by people who make a determined effort to be seen acting in the interests of the town.

And Netman could well be bussing here, which is duely noted.

BM

So you're suspicious of me because I did something that was in the best interest of the town, but I apparently did it "condescendingly"? Aggressive is not the same as condescending.

No, you were definitely being condescending, in my book.

And no, im not suspicious because you did something protown. You DID nothing! But, you said something which the only real result of was to try and paint you in a protown light. Which is scummy.

BM

[Battle Mage]

Vote: Hasdgfas

Aside from the fact that your name is hard to pronounce (>.<), you really strike me as scum. In particular (though no particular order):

Post 207+210+198 - Pretty much what Netman said.
Post 41 (and 43 as followup) - This is the first post that makes me think BM and Has are related in some way.
Post 170 - Seems faked to me. Could just be the mood of this search, though :/

Noted: Post 121+126 - Goes after Reclusion
Noted: Post 194 - A one liner that is both ironic and flat-out wrong.


So changing my list a bit, I think the mafia includes Hasd, BM, Reclusion, and possibly Yaw. And I'll probably look at BM in a little bit, and Reclusion/Yaw as well.

In other words, you find the main contributors scummy? Do you not think that might be because there is more room for them to stand-out?

BM

[Battle Mage]

meh sorry about recent inactivity. will get to this game soon hopefully!

BM

[Battle Mage]

Post 31 (followup post 32+33+34+~35) - Introduces minor possibility of being a scum team with cow.
Post 169 - Refers back to Cow's post 95 > Seems odd in general.


Questions:
Post 52 - by your alt?


And in general, his posts just seem (I can't think of the word >.<)... inconsistent (?). I dunno. Weird in general.

Post 52 was a joke. I dont see how 169 seems odd. But i think your issue is probably that you haven't come to terms with how i play. Which is makin u take pretty normal things FOR ME, as being wierd.

Unvote, Vote: Jebus

Seems like a good Day 1 bandwagon to me.

BM

[Battle Mage]

I think Jebus should now claim.

BM

[Battle Mage]

claim. now.

BM

[Battle Mage]

My vote stands. If you were a Doc, and you were forced to claim, getting lynched would be your LAST worry. Why do you not think you will get NKed?

I think it's more likely you are a townie than a Doc. And more likely you are scum than a townie.

BM

[Battle Mage]

BM -- Frenetic, but I've heard that's normal. Has good content, though. That said, do I have to explain why lynching a claimed doc on day 1 isn't a good idea? I think Jebus's logic and play so far have been absolutely scummy as well, but surely waiting for tomorrow on this one can only help. Oh, and I still don't have a clue what the hell he saw in that post that in any way implicated Cow.

How will tomorrow be any different?

BM

[Battle Mage]

First of all, we get a chance to explore other players for scum. After all, there's certainly more than one person in this game who is evil.

Second, if Jebus were really a doc, there's pressure on the scum to night kill him(?) tonight. Tomorrow, based on whether or not Jebus is still alive, it can indicate something about scum thought processes, and gives us more information about Jebus's culpability (if he(?)'s still alive, that is). Besides which, we have some days remaining before the deadline and may as well make use of them. (Also, is lynching Jebus today all that different from lynching Jebus tomorrow? The only case I can think of in which it really makes a difference is if Jebus is a SK.) There's a bit of WIFOM in here, but in general real outed docs have such a target on their heads that they don't last too many nights, especially if there are other higher value roles they can protect -- the longer a claimed doc lasts in a game, the more likely they are to be lying scum.

Of course, all of that assumes a "normal" doc claim on day 1. This has some elements that aren't normal, so I can see some justification for lynching Jebus today. I think at least that should wait until he(? -- seriously, Jebus, use a gender icon) gets back to us about self-protection.

I dont see why any scumbag in their right mind would NK Jebus. ESPECIALLY after the 'self-protect' thing. If he is lying, it makes a perfect story for why he never dies. If he's telling the truth, he becomes useless, as he wont protect anyone else! lol

We can use the rest of the day, but id like it to end in a Jebus-Lynch.

BM