Mini 2186: Pokemon Battles [GAME OVER]

[catboi]

Not a strong read, but he pointed out the pace and lack of content early but hasn't done much to address it. That's slightly suspect but I probably wouldn't vote him today.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Why were my short sentences a problem but Perfume posting nothing but hard to decipher anime not?

Pedit: You can guess but I won't confirm just in case there's a hidden scum mechanic.

Because I feel like I can read you.

I can't read strange anime crap.

So what's your read on Titus?

kinda tempted to vote this

@Mystix why did you make this post?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Why were my short sentences a problem but Perfume posting nothing but hard to decipher anime not?

Pedit: You can guess but I won't confirm just in case there's a hidden scum mechanic.

Because I feel like I can read you.

I can't read strange anime crap.

So what's your read on Titus?

Wanna know my thoughts on you?

Why didn’t you just answer this?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

i know

i just dont feel like voting rn

but if i did i would be voting there

Why? What pinged you exactly about CB trying to pin down Vax on his Titus’ read?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Red, chara, jj, mistyx are fine

Titus claimed negative utility and I haven't figured out if I trust that yet

catboi rvs is now serious

Why are you suspicious of my claim?

Why is catboi now a serious push?

Why are Red and jj town?

I think CB is fairly obvious town and I’m really disliking the push on him.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

guess i don't really like vax coming in not having read and dropping a vote on lead wagon anyway

titus flip from raya to a+m felt weird but not bad

VOTE: catboi

im feeling nice so sure

Misty's specifically i guess. you don't like Vax but here's a catboi vote. no thoughts on the Twins wagon?

nope

i trust my earlier read more than my current one because it felt more like i was trying to force something out for the sake of it now

You dislike Vax’s vote on a slot you have no thoughts about yet you vote CB.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

VOTE: catboi

im feeling nice so sure

VOTE: Mystix

[Smoke and Mirrors]

VOTE: catboi

im feeling nice so sure

VOTE: Mystix

You also comment on finding Titus’ vote on a slot you claim to have no thoughts on “weird” but you vote CB, not Vax or Titus, who you don’t even bother to comment on.

[unwnd]

Current trajectory for this game so far makes me feel like scum are playing relatively active. This is not exclusive to how I am reading someone, but I was noticing a bit of ire/complaints a bit back, and I have to wonder for the people who more complaining/negative, what does it all mean? If this fits a description and you feel sour grapes about this game feel free to tell me why. I find the negative perception towards games is a very easy one to take, so I want to hear more from people who wanna sit and complain instead of doing something about it.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

If Mistyx is scum here, Vax is probably her buddy.

[unwnd]

VOTE: Mistyx

Preemptive

[unwnd]

If Mistyx is scum here, Vax is probably her buddy.

Seems like a stretch to me honestly. Vax has been weird but I'm not settled on what it all means.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

If Mistyx is scum here, Vax is probably her buddy.

165 and 478

[unwnd]

I think if misty were not playing up to her own town behavior (and knew it), her best option would to be seem really confident in some areas instead of just saying 'i guess.' If she's scum that read doesn't seem related.

[unwnd]

Misty the biggest thing I want to ask you is

Where are you right now? You said you loved being town yeah? Catboi already pointed this out but you can't start a game saying 'oh well thank god im town' then end up slanking. Is there something that's stopping you? You say things with such ennui. Your reads seem like they could flip at any second and you seem unsure. I don't know what troubles you're having getting into this game.

[unwnd]

going purely from memory:

mistyx - scum
titus - town
vaxkiller - scum
chara - gut town
wellermanbob - town
raya36 - townlean
somke and mirrors - gut town
red - scumlean
perfume - nothing
jjh - vague scumlean
infinity zero - townlean
twins akari and mara - actually felt like her response to my vote was kind of town?

Probably need to read back to flesh some of these out, but decided to just go off the top of my head here to start.

Your scumreads are mostly just low-profile players. I think a common mistake being made as of late is that scum isn't paying attention or don't want to. Yes my vote is on misty but Red remains ??? and then like Jjh offered some soft reads and has mostly sat back. I don't really feel like scum are struggling or town are just on top of things. This may seem odd to you, but is there any read that you feel you could maybe be wrong about?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

If Mistyx is scum here, Vax is probably her buddy.

Seems like a stretch to me honestly. Vax has been weird but I'm not settled on what it all means.

I’m less sure on him but Mistix scumread CB for pushing Vax on his Titus’ read and now she makes it a point of saying that she dislikes his vote - on a slot she claimed to have 0 thoughts about - but she votes CB.

Why did Mistyx react that strongly to CB pushing Vax on his Titus’s read and why does she make it a point of saying she dislikes Vax’s vote on a slot she has no read on? I just find her positioning around Vax strange. It’s possible he could be town but if she’s scum, it wouldn’t at all shock me if Vax is her buddy based on that.

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I think if misty were not playing up to her own town behavior (and knew it), her best option would to be seem really confident in some areas instead of just saying 'i guess.' If she's scum that read doesn't seem related.

Her tone just seems off for as people have pointed out for someone who’s thrilled to roll town. Why is saying “I guess” town indicative?

What’s bothering me the most is she hasn’t given a single good reason for why she scumreads CB yet she votes him anyway. Why?

[unwnd]

Inf, something I noted in my catchup is that you made a huuge response to wellermanbob in #247 then just went lol vote Red. Why? Seemed like you were prepared to bury bob in your words then picked gimmick account Red instead. Yes Red is being a gimmick but you're either lead to believe that he's playing up the gimmick for scummy reasons (which you did not clarify) or it's the easiest vote to make in the entire game lol

[unwnd]

I think if misty were not playing up to her own town behavior (and knew it), her best option would to be seem really confident in some areas instead of just saying 'i guess.' If she's scum that read doesn't seem related.

Her tone just seems off for as people have pointed out for someone who’s thrilled to roll town. Why is saying “I guess” town indicative?

What’s bothering me the most is she hasn’t given a single good reason for why she scumreads CB yet she votes him anyway. Why?

Don't townread her, think she's a good vote actually. What I was arguing is that 'i guess' does not seem aligned to a mate, which I believe she would take a stronger stance against.

[catboi]

Your scumreads are mostly just low-profile players. I think a common mistake being made as of late is that scum isn't paying attention or don't want to. Yes my vote is on misty but Red remains ??? and then like Jjh offered some soft reads and has mostly sat back. I don't really feel like scum are struggling or town are just on top of things. This may seem odd to you, but is there any read that you feel you could maybe be wrong about?

Yeah, most of them. That was an off the cuff set of reads based on memory rather than any real analysis.

[unwnd]

Well give me a more specific response. What are your strongest townreads and why? I find those are more comfortable to people because it's like leverage to themselves

[catboi]

Well give me a more specific response. What are your strongest townreads and why? I find those are more comfortable to people because it's like leverage to themselves

Titus and Bob, the ones I put without qualifiers.

[unwnd]

Titus? The thing with me when it comes to Titus is that she made a snap response to a couple of votes and instantly was putting out reads on like 3 players in her #116. That's not a lot of time to start picking out about 3 players. I'm not sure why she'd feel so pressured so early and where all of a sudden she had 3 reads to spat out like that. Since then, she's mostly retained an outside presence (though did A&M, which I agreed with). Bob I was feeling pretty good about early but now it seems like he stopped caring. Loved that fire let under his ass now it's not there lol

[Smoke and Mirrors]

going purely from memory:

mistyx - scum
titus - town
vaxkiller - scum
chara - gut town
wellermanbob - town
raya36 - townlean
somke and mirrors - gut town
red - scumlean
perfume - nothing
jjh - vague scumlean
infinity zero - townlean
twins akari and mara - actually felt like her response to my vote was kind of town?

Probably need to read back to flesh some of these out, but decided to just go off the top of my head here to start.

Your scumreads are mostly just low-profile players. I think a common mistake being made as of late is that scum isn't paying attention or don't want to. Yes my vote is on misty but Red remains ??? and then like Jjh offered some soft reads and has mostly sat back. I don't really feel like scum are struggling or town are just on top of things. This may seem odd to you, but is there any read that you feel you could maybe be wrong about?

While I will probably never now get my alt answer from Perfume, I do think I know who that is and based off of that, I read her posts as being slightly town indicative and having played with scum!you in last year’s TM, I think I was right about that. And she had pretty decent reads in the games I played with her. I won’t out who I think Perfume is but it makes less inclined to want to vote Red now.