Mini 2186: Pokemon Battles [GAME OVER]

[Smoke and Mirrors]

chara feels like a slot i'm going to have as light town at eod and then come into tomorrow scumreading

no this is not a read

Back to not liking your posting. :/

[Smoke and Mirrors]

VOTE: jjh Please join.

Why?

[Infinity Zero]

Well you were getting scumpings from me and now we're on a wagon together which is

Funny in hindsight

I wonder if my scumpings were from you kinda feeling out the gamestate and playing reactively, which is what scum tend to do especially on replacing in. It would be weird to try to pocket a hydra, but I guess that could be what's happening too.

-Inf

[unwnd]

I don't think I see it (chara town) so the floor is yours bob

Am I wrong to think that you especially don't like Chara vote cause Infinity suggested it

[Mistyx]

serious mode

i don't really like the a+m wagon i thought some of their reasoning pinged townie

Finally a post of yours I don’t dislike. Can you elaborate on this because you’re voting the player who already said this - Catboi.

sure

their series of posts from 385 to 390 seems like legitimate reasoning that comes from a townie calling out something they see as bs

[Twins Akari and Mara]

VOTE: chara

[Mistyx]

chara feels like a slot i'm going to have as light town at eod and then come into tomorrow scumreading

no this is not a read

Back to not liking your posting. :/

good for you

[Twins Akari and Mara]

I'm also a wagon of 3 now

Chara, Titus, bob

[Raya36]

I don't feel it's been slow, and even if you believe this how does it affect your reads? Are you comfortable with the people who have been posting more?

I have quite a few townleans on active people. I think because this is a slow game, it benefits scum to post less so that they don't inadvertently get the game moving, increasing townies' motivations and generating more content with which they can be caught. Not all scum think like this, so it's kind of a weak thing, but it makes me a bit more comfortable to have less active players in my PoE.

I also think there's a problem of like, if the scum are in the more active players, they haven't been scummy enough to get caught yet, so it's hard to tell which ones. I think arguing that a specific active player is scummy would be more helpful than just saying that limming in the lurkers is a bad idea. I think chara has been very scummy but not many people agree with me, so I'm ok just voting people who haven't towntold yet.

-Inf

I'm feeling the same way about the active players. Scum is doing well at hiding right now assuming there is scum among that group.

I don't feel it's been slow, and even if you believe this how does it affect your reads? Are you comfortable with the people who have been posting more?

I have quite a few townleans on active people. I think because this is a slow game, it benefits scum to post less so that they don't inadvertently get the game moving, increasing townies' motivations and generating more content with which they can be caught. Not all scum think like this, so it's kind of a weak thing, but it makes me a bit more comfortable to have less active players in my PoE.

I also think there's a problem of like, if the scum are in the more active players, they haven't been scummy enough to get caught yet, so it's hard to tell which ones. I think arguing that a specific active player is scummy would be more helpful than just saying that limming in the lurkers is a bad idea.

I think chara has been very scummy but not many people agree with me, so I'm ok just voting people who haven't towntold yet.

-Inf

Go with this thought? I wasn't merely offering my thoughts in a way that seemed like biting criticism. I don't disagree with your assumption made in regards of what scum could possibly be doing, and it's something I've noted. I do however think that purely at a meta level this PList again has a ton of people like (Misty) who love being town and I'd really expect a hell of a lot more. I keep exclusively mentioning her which actually kinda annoys me because I don't wanna end up compromising on someone like Misty, but I will do it and my vote is there to say 'Misty, show up and be town or just die'. I have one or two reads I'm keeping to myself for now besides that.

My thing with Misty is that if she knows she's generally very enthusiastic as town why would scum!Misty announce that she's happy to be town only to not try to show that. The only reason I see scum!Misty announcing that at the start is to draw attention to it and prove it. Not draw attention only to do the opposite and therefore appear scummy. For that reason she reads more as initially genuinely excited to be town but maybe feeling disengaged with the game or maybe busy, who knows.

I'm very against eliminating Chara

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I have some time and I shall take it

I'm in a place with a good lot of townreads, but too many uncertain reads that I should spend a bit of time parsing
Also I want to lie down for a bit

So basically please don't expect me to suddenly leap into this but my full attention is here

Nothing about this is scummy.

[Twins Akari and Mara]

Twins Akari and Mara - 4 ( Chara, Titus, Wellermanbob, )
Catboi --------------- 1 ( Mistyx )
Mystix -------------. (smoke and mirrors,
Vaxkiller ------------ 3 ( , Catboi, Raya )
Red ------------------ 0 ( )
Wellermanbob --------- 1 ( Red )
Titus ---------------- 1 ( )
Infinity Zero -------- 0 ( No One )
Mistyx --------------- 0 ( No One )
Chara ---------------- 4( mistyx, inf/gam, twins, unwnd )
Raya36 --------------- 0 ( No One )
unwnd ---------------- 0 ( No One )
Smoke and Mirrors ---- 0 ( jjh )
jjh927 --------------- 3/ (vax, inf/gam )

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I'm not happy with the jj or twins wagon. I'd be willing to go back to cat but I don't feel as bad as I did before with this slot.

I'm not sure if this is still a viable wagon or not but I'm not liking Vax. I didn't like the Titus vote. Titus has felt town to me and it felt opportunistic as well. The unvoting for simply posting more is bad too. He next places his vote on Infinity, another slot I light townread and another opportunistic vote. Later he voted the twins as the 5th vote which is again opportunistic. He also gave no reasoning for this vote and seemingly hadn't been caught up. When he switches votes again later he says he doesn't even understand the twins wagon but he'd still be willing to go back to it? The it's Mistyx without any reasoning which again already had a wagon forming and opportunistic. He mentions how little time we have then proceeds with fluffy posts. Then joins the jj wagon, who I light townread, without any reasoning given again.

VOTE: Vax

I’m still not liking Mistyx but not opposed.

[wellermanbob]

I don't think I see it (chara town) so the floor is yours bob

Am I wrong to think that you especially don't like Chara vote cause Infinity suggested it

Well you should consider spectacles or drinking less

[catboi]

On a reread I don't really think Chara is clearly town but am uncomfortable with the way this wagon sprang up

[Twins Akari and Mara]

We have 4 hours to eod1

Pedit: ugh

[wellermanbob]

Legit just going to vote down the entire Chara wagon the rest kf the game if that's the direction y'all go.

[wellermanbob]

Bad bad bad bad bad bad

[Twins Akari and Mara]

Wtf happened to deadline compromise

[wellermanbob]

Or if its somehow by some miracle a scum flip then ill probably flake out in shame but we're not going to entertain fiction

[Twins Akari and Mara]

@catboi

[wellermanbob]

Wtf happened to deadline compromise

Excuse me?

A) in what world is Chara, probably my stronger TR, something I should be compromising on?
B) I'm not even a fan of compromise elims in general which I've stated.

[unwnd]

OK Raya, you're my strongest townread so I'm fine with going with you

VOTE: Vax

[Raya36]

From the main wagons:

Willing to eliminate: Vax -> cat -> Twins as a compromise

Against eliminating: Chara -> Mistyx -> jj

[Smoke and Mirrors]

Part of me feels I owe infinity something for not listening to him in yellowstone and not indulging in my paranoia scum-team, and part of me feels like he has a point.

His stance around titus is weird, and I don't actually think they have any hard stances and through my read through I feel like they are pushing pushes that are a bit safer and don't give him much of a headache to explain if I'm making sense.

Pedit: after my 1v1 with catboi I was sleep

Whether or not I’m agreeing with any of your stances, this reads like a town post to me.

[Raya36]

OK Raya, you're my strongest townread so I'm fine with going with you

VOTE: Vax

Do you agree with my read and points made against Vax?