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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:38 pm

Town Businessman

Appears like MAFIA to Cop investigations. Each night, must submit a target. Target player appears like MAFIA to cop investigations that night.



Mafia Framer

Each night, may submit a target. Target player appears like MAFIA to cop investigations that night.



Compulsive Bodyguard Survivor

Each night, must submit a target. If target player is targeted by a night kill, you will die instead. You win if you survive and can joint with town or mafia.


In this topic: The role list for Superb Idea Mafia. In each post, post a Town Role, a Mafia Role, and a Third Party Role. Roles can be anything, a normal thing like a Cop or a weird thing like a Compulsive Firebreathing Serial Killer Jester. For Superb Idea Mafia, a mod simply takes this thread, sets the number of Town/Mafia/Third Parties (recommended 6/2/1 for Micro Games), determines each player's alignment and then randomizes between 0 - last post number for each player. Player gets the role of their alignment in that post.

Players could potentially use this in the same way as Grand Idea Mafia and just random a post and then random 1-10 (1-6 is town, 7-9 is mafia, 10 is third party) to determine which role a player gets.

Blank, off topic, or incomplete posts are replaced with a theoretical Town Cop, Mafia Godfather, Treestump Eliminator post.
Spoiler: that post
Town Cop

Each night, may submit a target. You will be informed if that player is MAFIA or NOT MAFIA.



Mafia Godfather

Appears like NOT MAFIA to Cop investigations.



Treestump Eliminator

Gets the name of a random Town player. Wins if that player is eliminated via vote. Doing so does not end game, simply causes Eliminator to leave.
At night, can submit Treestump: Self to become a Treestump. Their role and alignment are flipped and they can no longer vote, but may continue talking for the rest of the game.


Rules:
  • No Townies. Any Townies will instead be treated as a Town Businessman
  • No Mafia Goons. Any Mafia Goons will instead be treated as a Mafia Framer
  • Town must be Town. Mafia must be Mafia (not Werewolves or the like.) Third Party go crazy.
  • Doubles are allowed obviously.
  • If you post broken stuff I'm just not going to use them so up to you but yeah.
  • Roles that target other players are preferred but not required.
  • If you have ideas for more rules then just post about it (while posting roles.)
  • Unless otherwise stated, upon completing win condition, the third party player leaves the game and can joint with town or mafia.

Why:
  • So I can make a micro using this thread.
  • Grand Idea doesn't let me do this as easily.
  • Cause even if this is the only post I'm still making the game.
  • Cause one time I played Grand Idea and I got Vanilla Townie and I was very sad.
  • I don't imagine this'll outlive Grand Idea, once it starts to slow down to a stop I'll lock it.

Make a fun role list, go.
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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:43 pm

Town Roleblocker

Each night, may submit a target. If target player performs any night actions, they will fail.



Mafia Roleblocker

Each night, may submit a target. If target player performs any night actions, they will fail.



Free Spirit

Each night, must submit a target. If target player performs any night actions, they will fail. Wins if successfully prevents a kill in this way.

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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:44 pm

Town Cop

Each night, may submit a target. You will be informed if that player is MAFIA or NOT MAFIA.



Mafia Godfather

Appears like NOT MAFIA to Cop investigations.



Day Treestump Eliminator

Gets the name of a random Town player. Wins if that player is eliminated via vote. Doing so does not end game, simply causes Eliminator to leave.
During day, can post Treestump: Self to become a Treestump. Their role and alignment are flipped and they can no longer vote, but may continue talking for the rest of the game.


and if that's the whole list it'll be an interesting game lol

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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:29 pm

Town Tuesday Enabler

While you are alive, the thread will be unlocked on Tuesdays. If you die, the thread will be locked on Tuesdays, although this will not cause night.



Mafia Mountainizer

While you are alive, all other roles in the game will be vanilla. Third party roles and non-mafia roles will all become vanilla town. If you die, then their original cards and alignments will divert back to their original cards.



Survivor Night Enabler

While you are alive, the nightphase of the game is enabled. If you die, the game will become nightless.

Win by surviving until the end of the game.
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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:26 pm

Town "Encryptor"

you must post using a different method of encryption each day, that you will describe to the moderator, if there is a rule against that, it doesn't apply to you

Mafia "Encryptor"

you must post using a different method of encryption each day, that you will describe to the moderator, if there is a rule against that, it doesn't apply to you

Conditional Bulletproof Troublemaker

you may each night bus drive two persons

if you didn't redirect any actions, you are immune to kills for the night

you win if you redirect four different actions
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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:32 pm

Town Doctor

Each night, may submit a target. If target player is night killed, prevent it.



Mafia Weak Compulsive Doctor

Each night, must submit a target. If target player is night killed, prevent it. If target player is not Town, you will die.



Defender

Each night, must submit a target. If target player is night killed, prevent it, but you die. Wins if successfully prevents a kill in this way.

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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:51 pm

Town Loyal Vigilante

Each night, may attempt to shoot a target player. If the target player is aligned with the town, they will die.



Mafia Tracker

Each night, may submit a target. Will be informed of who the target visited at the end of the night.



Vagrant

Each night, must choose another player to hide behind, causing all actions directly made against the Vagrant to fail.

If the target player is attacked, the Vagrant will die alongside them. If anyone tries to attack the Vagrant, the Vagrant will kill the target they are hiding behind. This kill does not cause the Vagrant to die.

Wins if alive in the final phase or the previous one and all threats to them have been eliminated. In the case of a 1-1 tie between the Vagrant and another player, the Vagrant always wins.
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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:25 pm

Town Post Number Cop

Checks a player each night, finding their post number in the Superb Idea Mafia thread.



Mafia Framer

Each night, may submit a target. Target player appears like MAFIA to cop investigations that night.



Unjester

Wins if it dies by a nightkill.


Idk if this will become as popular as GIM but I think this has a decent concept.
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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:21 am

Town Alien

Each night, may submit a target. The target player is immune to others' night actions, and any night actions they perform will fail.



Mafia Alien

Each night, may submit a target. The target player is immune to others' night actions, and any night actions they perform will fail.



Kidnapper

Each night, must submit a target. The target player is immune to others' night actions, and any night actions they perform will fail.

If the target is not attacked, the Kidnapper will learn their target's alignment. If the target is attacked, the Kidnapper will kill the attacker.

Wins if alive in the final phase or the previous one and all threats to them have been eliminated. In the case of a 1-1 tie between the Kidnapper and another player, the Kidnapper always wins.


Trying to think of third party villains that won't cause town to potentially be double killed during night like a Serial Killer would -- for example, this one can only redirect the kill to mafia by protecting a strong town player in the process, which I imagine they will only try to do if mafia is threatening to win.

Are you interested in 3Ps that try to win on their own by eliminating everyone else, or would you prefer third parties in Superb Idea to always be the "Do X to exit game and win" type?

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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:08 am

Town Combined Friendly Neighbour Neighbourizer

Each night, may submit a target. The target player is informed that this player is aligned with the TOWN. Additionally, the target player will be added into a private chat consisting of this player and all other players who have been previously targetted by this action.



Mafia Intimidator

Each night, may submit a target. On that night, the target will appear to have visited the player targetted by the Mafia's factional kill, in place of the real killer. This ability may be used in conjunction with performing the factional kill.



Guardian Angel Jack-of-all-Trades

Gets the name of a random Town player. Wins if that player lives to see the end of the game, regardless of what team wins.

Each night, may use one of the following abilities on a target. Each ability may only be used once.
- Bodyguard
- Babysitter
- Jailkeeper

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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:54 pm

Town Jailkeeper

Each night, may submit a target. If target player performs any night actions, they will fail. If target player is night killed, prevent it.



Mafia Jailkeeper

Each night, may submit a target. If target player performs any night actions, they will fail. If target player is night killed, prevent it.



1-shot Bulletproof Serial Killer

At the start of the game, all other players receive a 1-shot bulletproof vest. Each night, you must submit a target. You will night kill that target. You win if you are the last one standing or nothing can prevent it.



In post 8, Morning Tweet wrote:Trying to think of third party villains that won't cause town to potentially be double killed during night like a Serial Killer would -- for example, this one can only redirect the kill to mafia by protecting a strong town player in the process, which I imagine they will only try to do if mafia is threatening to win.

Are you interested in 3Ps that try to win on their own by eliminating everyone else, or would you prefer third parties in Superb Idea to always be the "Do X to exit game and win" type?

I have absolutely no preference, the only plan I have is to run it as a micro but that isn't to say serial killers and the like can't exist. Just wanted to see what ya'll would come up with.

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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:46 pm

Town Watcher

Each night, may submit a target. Will be informed of who visited the target at the end of the night.



Mafia Ambulence Chaser

Each night, may submit a target. Will be informed whether or not that player possesses an ability which can save others from being night killed through protection. For example, this includes Doctors, Jailkeepers, and Aliens, but not Roleblockers or One-shot Bulletproofs.

At the end of each night, will be passively informed of every player who was successfully targeted by a protective action (does not need to actually protect a kill, though).



Trauma Specialist

On the first and second night, may target up to two players. On all following nights, may target a single player.

Targetted players are immune to all kill attempts on the night they are targeted. However, if the target would have been killed if not for this ability, they will die unstoppably at the end of the following night.

If the Trauma Specialist targets themself, they are immune to all kill attempts and will not die on the following night if attacked.

Wins and exits the game if they target two separate players who are attacked. Self targets do not count for win condition.
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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:48 pm

Town Dark Demon

Anyone investigating you will receive a message saying that you are a frightening and evil Dark Demon.

Each night, you may cloak someone in darkness. They will be roleblocked, and will receive frightening visions of a random night action targeting them the next Night (if they weren't targeted the next Night, they will receive frightening visions of demons).




Mafia 1-shot Astral Demon

Once in the game during night, you may perform the factional nightkill as if you were strong-willed, untargetable, and the target had no abilities (the Astral Demon kill does indeed roleblock).




Reviled Demon Creature

You win if you die in any way other than elimination.

All investigative roles get unfavorable results on you, and any investigative role that sees your exact alignment sees you as a member of the largest scumteam.

However, while you are still alive, nobody other than you can win. If someone would normally win (such as a Jester being eliminated), they don't win until you die. You also have the Serial Killer wincon (You win when all threats to you are gone, and you are currently alive or were alive in the last phase, or nothing can prevent this from occurring.) to avoid a potential Scorched Earth scenario.





Would all roles with "no special abilities" count as Vanilla? E.g. Chocolate Townie is disallowed
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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:57 pm

Town Compulsive Pulsechecker

Each night, must submit a target. If target player will be successfully killed in any way, receive DEAD. If target player does not die, receive SURVIVED.



Mafia Tailor

Each night, may submit a target. Target player appears opposite to Cop investigations that night.



Compulsive Bodyguard Wagonvengekill Jester

Each night, must submit a target. If target player is targeted by a night kill, you will die instead. You win if you are eliminated during the day. If you are eliminated, a random player is killed on the wagon.



Rules say no Townies (of any kind) and no Mafia Goons, technically a vanilla third party is allowed

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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:02 pm

Town Moonlight Dancer

You may PM the moderator at any time saying "Dance in the Moonlight". You may do this once per phase.

The moderator will then post "{playername} dances and howls in the moonlight."




Mafia Moonlight Dancer

You may PM the moderator at any time saying "Dance in the Moonlight". You may do this once per phase.

The moderator will then post "{playername} dances and howls in the moonlight."




Inconspicuous Traveler

You win if you can go a night without being targeted.
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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:23 pm

Town Loyal Checker

Each night, you may check a player. You will be informed of whether your check attempt on that player succeeded or not. This action will fail if it targets someone not aligned with you.




Ascetic Mafioso

You are immune to non-kill actions.




Rolestopped Survivor

You are immune to all actions.

You win if you are alive during endgame.





The "no vanilla Town or Mafia" rules as written currently forbid someone from posting an Ascetic Townie while allowing a Chocolate Mafioso (or Chocolate Goon if you prefer) to be posted. If the intent is to avoid Vanillas and Named Vanillas make them forbid "You have no special abilities.", if you want to ban functional Vanillas as well idk how to write it but someone will probably post a Multitasking Townie which will only matter in the case of Inventors or other ways to grant actions.
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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:28 pm

Town Disloyal Babysitter

Each night, may submit a target. The target player is immune to one kill attempt. However, if the Babysitter is killed, they will attack their target rather than heal them. This action will fail if it targets someone aligned with the Babysitter.



Mafia Saboteur

Each night, may submit a target. Target player gives RESULTS INCONCLUSIVE to all types of investigatives for the rest of the game. This is distinct from NO RESULT.



Serial Bleeder

Once during the game at night, may submit a target. The target player will die unstoppably at the end of the following night, regardless of any protections they may have. Only rolestops or roleblocks can prevent this. If this ability is prevented, the Serial Bleeder will be informed of this and may attempt it again on another night.

The first time the Serial Bleeder is killed at night, they will instead die unstoppably at the end of three nights from when they were killed. If they are attacked again during this period, they will die immediately.

Wins if alive in the final phase or the previous one and all threats to them have been eliminated. In the case of a 1-1 tie between the Serial Bleeder and another player, the Serial Bleeder always wins.
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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:43 pm

Town Bloodhound

Each night, may submit a target. You will be informed if that player is TOWN or NOT TOWN.




Mafia Alignment Cop

Each night, may submit a target. You will be informed of that player's exact alignment.




Jester Framer

Each night, may submit a target. Target player appears like MAFIA to cop investigations that night.

You win if you are eliminated during the day.
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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:53 pm

Town Death Bloodhound

Each night, may submit a target. If the Bloodhound is killed during the night, the target player's result of TOWN or NOT TOWN will be published in the main thread at the start of the following day. This investigation cannot be deceived by roles such as Framers or Millers.



Mafia Disloyal Supersaintizer

Each night, may submit a target. Target player will have Supersaint secretly added onto their existing role. If successful, the target will reflexively kill any player who is the hammering vote on their wagon. This action will fail if it targets someone aligned with the Supersaintizer.



Gravedigger Miller Bodyguard Unjester

Each night, may submit a target. If target player is targeted by a night kill, you will die instead.

Appears as MAFIA to all types of Cops. Appears to visit all players who are killed during the night in place of the real killers.

Wins if killed in any way other than an elimination.


Supersaintizer sounds broken but it has the drawback of being less helpful after it is discovered that the role exists, as hammers will always be leashed from that point on. Additionally, mafia become informed of something everyone else doesn't know, which can be potentially used against them. However, it should be fairly rewarding to a team that is doing well to control eliminations.
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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:05 am

Town Nightkill-Immune Miller Vigilante

You are immune to kill actions during the Night.

You investigate as MAFIA to Cops.

Each night, you may attempt to kill a player.




Mafia Role Cop

Each night, you may learn a player's exact role.




Nightkill-Immune Miller Serial Killer

You are immune to kill actions during the Night.

You investigate as MAFIA to Cops.

Each night, you may attempt to kill a player with your "factional" kill. You win when all threats to you are gone, and you are currently alive or were alive in the last phase, or nothing can prevent this from occurring.
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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:13 am

Town Gladiator

Once during the game at daytime, may target another player by posting "GLADIATE: Player" in bold. All outstanding votes are nullified. For the remainder of the day, votes may only be cast for the Gladiator or the target player.




Mafia Gladiator

Once during the game at daytime, may target another player by posting "GLADIATE: Player" in bold. All outstanding votes are nullified. For the remainder of the day, votes may only be cast for the Gladiator or the target player.




Gloryseeker

Once during the game at daytime, may target another player by posting "GLADIATE: Player" in bold. All outstanding votes are nullified. For the remainder of the day, votes may only be cast for the Gloryseeker or the target player.

Wins and exits the game if the target player is eliminated, thereby making the Gloryseeker the duel's victor.
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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:24 am

Town Mason

You are in a PT with other Masons, who are confirmed to not be Mafia-aligned.

Mod Note: Add "Mason" to a random non-Mafia-aligned player's role when rolling this role.




Mafia Lawyer

Each night, may submit a target. Target player appears like NOT MAFIA to cop investigations that night.




1-shot Townie

You start the game aligned with the Town.

If you are alive at the start of Day 2, you will become a Survivor. Once turned, the alignment change cannot be reversed.
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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:51 am

Town Lazy Tracker

Each night, may submit a target. Will be informed of who the target visited at the end of the night. This ability will fail if there are less than two mafia-aligned players still alive.



Mafia Multitasking Compulsive Roaming Doctor

Each night, must submit a target. If target player is night killed, prevent it. Cannot target the same player more than once over the course of the game. This action may be done in conjunction with performing the factional kill. Can self target.



Role Cop Survivor

Each night, may submit a target. Will be informed of target player's exact role. Wins if alive during endgame.
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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:59 am

Town 1-shot Cop-izer

Each night, you may give someone a 1-shot Cop ability

Mafia Watcher

Secret Doublevoter Separatist

at the start of the game, the playerlist is separated into two secret groups that the separatist is aware of

the separatist can secretely give his vote a weight of 2 at any time

you win if only one of the groups remains alive at the end of the game
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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:03 am

Town Peaceful Archon

If you die for any reason, nobody dies the next Night.




Mafia Factional Poisoner

Each night, you may poison a player in lieu of the factional nightkill. Poisoned players will die at the end of the next Night.




Merciful Angel Rolestopper

Each night, you may render a player immune to night actions.

You win when a phase without any deaths has happened, or Town wins without ever reaching ELo or MeLo.
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