In post 1240, Mistyx wrote:because of the vax flip d1 i found it easier to clear people than feel strongly about killing them this game so i've been playing this game from the top down
you're in my PoE because i don't have a strong reason to clear you
Alright, benefit of the doubt it's just because of my pov but I feel my push against Vax should be enough
okay
i'll read into it, i have not actually read your iso closely
In post 1225, Raya36 wrote:Red claimed Chara has a weapon of mass destruction and Chara's claim was mostly around defense. Makes sense from Scum!Chara because it makes them appear more innocent and less of a threat and is also dramatically different than the guilty claim
it directly contradicts red's result
how does that make them look like less of a threat
Read their claim and tell me if that makes you feel threatened. Red says Chara is a mass murderer and has a weapon of mass destruction. Chara comes back and claims to be innocent and has has abilities like flinch and reducing the opponent's attack. All around defense. Helpless in the sense of murder. If Chara is scum here it's very smart
if chara is scum it's not smart because they just get killed for their claim contradicting red
if chara was scum and wanted to not die by d3 they would claim something that is a weapon of destruction because it's a very blatant gunsmith soft so they would claim vig or something
No, if Chara is scum they want their claim to contradict or else everyone will just believe the guilty because it's close enough to the claim to be possible. It's a 1v1 between red and chara with very little chance of it being called tvt. I think you're scum with Chara trying to pull off this narrative though
why do they want to contradict
that just ensures they die either today or after red
Chara is getting elimed either way. Contradicting gives them a better chance to not be eliminated first in my opinion. There's almost no chance Chara/Red is tvt. So whatever order we eliminate, Chara gets eliminated.
In post 1198, Infinity Zero wrote:Btw can I just state I love how the creepypasta gimmick makes the guilty look? Like DAMN, Red NAILED his aesthetic.
clearly, gamma is scum trying to pocket red
Spoiler:
agreed tbh
No.
nice
You actually had some posts earlier that were actually making me question my scumread on you but your recent posts are pretty much proving Gamma right and I don’t recall a single game ever where town!you had such inexplicable takes.
In post 1225, Raya36 wrote:Red claimed Chara has a weapon of mass destruction and Chara's claim was mostly around defense. Makes sense from Scum!Chara because it makes them appear more innocent and less of a threat and is also dramatically different than the guilty claim
it directly contradicts red's result
how does that make them look like less of a threat
Read their claim and tell me if that makes you feel threatened. Red says Chara is a mass murderer and has a weapon of mass destruction. Chara comes back and claims to be innocent and has has abilities like flinch and reducing the opponent's attack. All around defense. Helpless in the sense of murder. If Chara is scum here it's very smart
if chara is scum it's not smart because they just get killed for their claim contradicting red
if chara was scum and wanted to not die by d3 they would claim something that is a weapon of destruction because it's a very blatant gunsmith soft so they would claim vig or something
No, if Chara is scum they want their claim to contradict or else everyone will just believe the guilty because it's close enough to the claim to be possible. It's a 1v1 between red and chara with very little chance of it being called tvt. I think you're scum with Chara trying to pull off this narrative though
why do they want to contradict
that just ensures they die either today or after red
Chara is getting elimed either way. Contradicting gives them a better chance to not be eliminated first in my opinion. There's almost no chance Chara/Red is tvt. So whatever order we eliminate, Chara gets eliminated.
i think if chara were to claim some sort of vigilante they could get out of an elimination
i think it's possible they didn't consider this, but i find it unlikely given previous experience
In post 1198, Infinity Zero wrote:Btw can I just state I love how the creepypasta gimmick makes the guilty look? Like DAMN, Red NAILED his aesthetic.
clearly, gamma is scum trying to pocket red
Spoiler:
agreed tbh
No.
nice
You actually had some posts earlier that were actually making me question my scumread on you but your recent posts are pretty much proving Gamma right and I don’t recall a single game ever where town!you had such inexplicable takes.
In post 1207, Mistyx wrote:if red/chara t/t i dislike everyone who immediately voted chara after they claimed
which is inf/raya/s+m
i think inf looks bad for their reaction to the claim if red is town at all actually
i want to talk about 1147/1148 a bit - raya, s+m, can you explain why that logic doesn't apply to scum!chara as well? and wouldn't it be more likely that town!chara told the truth about their claim if they knew the red check wasn't real?
1147 was referring to scum!Chara. I feel like town!Chara would have more to say than just a claim if they were wrongly guiltied. It feels like scum!Chara claimed and left it at just that to avoid giving more info or further incriminating themselves.
so if you think scum!chara would react differently to being guiltied...
Personally, if Chara claimed vig I would've voted right away too. This also all depends on what result Red actually got. If Red got a guilty and the weapon of mass destruction is just his personal flavour then this argument is pointless because the guilty no longer alludes to a gun. If Red got only that Chara has a weapon then the vig claim could work because both scum and vig could fit into that guilty claim.
Raya36 wrote:Personally, if Chara claimed vig I would've voted right away too. This also all depends on what result Red actually got. If Red got a guilty and the weapon of mass destruction is just his personal flavour then this argument is pointless because the guilty no longer alludes to a gun. If Red got only that Chara has a weapon then the vig claim could work because both scum and vig could fit into that guilty claim.
okay but i'd like to point out that chara wouldn't know the nature of red's check
so they'd be more likely to claim something that fits with like
i had titus as town because the way she handled her claim felt pro-town, plus her push on perfume felt internally consistent
i also liked her vote on vax
Tbf I had Titus in my lower TR tier
But I felt like townbinning her was too much atp
Meanwhile Raya’s Vax vote was one Infinity quickly pegged as town and I felt good about her contributions from what I read. So if you liked Titus’ vote you should have liked Raya’s too. Nancy was calling out Titus for playing in a way that suggested she needed to push specific miselims but I think your PoE was too wide and that suggests you’re trying to leave more miselim options open.
-Protocol
i've been burned by players by raya a lot before so i don't think the level of contribution is something clearing
so who are the mislims i'm trying to keep available then
You are seriously arguing that scum!Raya NKs the player who has her as his strongest tr?
i think that argument applies more strongly to scum who might be substantially pushed the next day
raya wasn't in a bad enough thread position to need unwnd defending her
In post 861, Mistyx wrote:Titus
Catboi
Raya36
Smoke and Mirrors
Red
Jjh927
Infinity Zero
Twins Akari and Mara
removed self, dead players, chara/wellerman
removing titus/catboi/jjh/twins gives us
raya/s&m/red/infinity
i like that list tbh
This was the PoE I took issue with
If you just failed to make it clear Titus wasn’t as strong a TR as the other that would make things better ime
-Protocol
In post 861, Mistyx wrote:Titus
Catboi
Raya36
Smoke and Mirrors
Red
Jjh927
Infinity Zero
Twins Akari and Mara
removed self, dead players, chara/wellerman
removing titus/catboi/jjh/twins gives us
raya/s&m/red/infinity
i like that list tbh
This was the PoE I took issue with
If you just failed to make it clear Titus wasn’t as strong a TR as the other that would make things better ime
-Protocol
Raya36 wrote:Personally, if Chara claimed vig I would've voted right away too. This also all depends on what result Red actually got. If Red got a guilty and the weapon of mass destruction is just his personal flavour then this argument is pointless because the guilty no longer alludes to a gun. If Red got only that Chara has a weapon then the vig claim could work because both scum and vig could fit into that guilty claim.
okay but i'd like to point out that chara wouldn't know the nature of red's check
so they'd be more likely to claim something that fits with like
any investigative
instead of this
Maybe they have reason to believe that Red's claim is just flavour. That's what I assumed at a first read. The guilty is very similar format to a couple of his other posts in terms of the gimmick
Raya36 wrote:Personally, if Chara claimed vig I would've voted right away too. This also all depends on what result Red actually got. If Red got a guilty and the weapon of mass destruction is just his personal flavour then this argument is pointless because the guilty no longer alludes to a gun. If Red got only that Chara has a weapon then the vig claim could work because both scum and vig could fit into that guilty claim.
okay but i'd like to point out that chara wouldn't know the nature of red's check
so they'd be more likely to claim something that fits with like
any investigative
instead of this
Maybe they have reason to believe that Red's claim is just flavour. That's what I assumed at a first read. The guilty is very similar format to a couple of his other posts in terms of the gimmick
Which would make claiming a vig role very risky because what if Red's next posts says the weapon thing was just gimmick. Then suddenly Chara's claim "coincidentally" lined up with the gimmick
In post 1271, Raya36 wrote:Which would make claiming a vig role very risky because what if Red's next posts says the weapon thing was just gimmick. Then suddenly Chara's claim "coincidentally" lined up with the gimmick
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