TM 2021: A normal roguelike

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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:13 pm

Uncommon RulesExperienced players are often tempted to skim the rules, so here are the rules most unique to my modding to be most aware of.
  1. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the moderator and Team Mafia approved methods. If someone contacts you outside the game, report it to me IMMEDIATELY
  2. You must play to win the game. This is a common rule, but enforcement is uncommon.
  3. "Pretending to break a rule is the same as breaking a rule" is included in Common Rules below, but it is particularly important with this rule. It's allowed to claim you are not fighting to win quite as hard as you did last game, but you cannot claim not to be playing to your win at all, even as a tactic that you believe gets you closer to your win condition. This includes saying you would concede as one alignment.
  4. The above two rules do not constitute a blanket ban on selfvoting or bussing, which often either furthers the wincondition, or in other cases is just a manner of conceding an unwinnable game to the other team.
  5. If you feel totally unable to play to your win condition due to personal conflicts with other players, please request replacement upon realizing this.
  6. This game is using a special rule that relates to hammer testing and quickhammer coordinations. When you make a vote, (this includes special votes, modify as appropriate), you can post, in bold, I and all members of my faction that are known to me and I to them, VOTE: Isis and win the game. Do not name any other members of your faction. If you've made a mistake and voting together with all partners would not win you the game, it will be treated simply as a vote. If you haven't made a mistake, then you will perform votes on behalf of your teammates and win the game.
  7. The above rule does not work if you do not have the mechanical information required to know that it would win the game. For example, if you are Masons with a player and one scum remains among five players, you cannot cause your teammate to vote Isis with you. It would only work if you previously investigated Isis as guilty in an open setup. (In practice this rule will usually benefit anti-town groups the most, but it is defined in a neutral way).
  8. Discuss site/game rule violations with the moderator/listmod, not in the game thread.
  9. If a consecutive block consisting of at least four days and four nights with no death passes, the mafia lose the game.


Common Rules
  1. All site-wide rules apply. In particular: No discussion of ongoing games is allowed. Post as though they don't exist, except when mentioning information whitelisted by the site rule: the number of games in which you are alive.
  2. Do not quote your Role PM or any other PMs from the Mod, real or fabricated. Do not paraphrase too closely.
  3. Do not quote private topics. Paraphrase. Do not mention timestamps on posts made in private topics. Remember that true paraphrasing focuses on the message being conveyed and not the linguistic or physical features of the messages - for instance, if Isis used a bulleted list, and that post strikes you as important and makes you think she feels confident she's solved this game, "Isis posted a bulleted list" is a physical feature you shouldn't reference, "Isis has been professory in the private topic" conveys the idea. Summarizing a private topic in a way that clearly delineates which posts contained which information breaks this rule.
  4. You may quote a private topic if it is fully known(everyone alive reading the post is also permitted to view the post in the private topic it came from.)
  5. Do not edit or delete your post, even if you have the ability to do so.
  6. Do not use encrypted text, small text, or otherwise make it hard to see what you are writing.
  7. Do not use cryptography or other complex information hiding. If you hide information in a post, it must be based purely on the English letters in that post, without shifting them to different letters based on any kind of rule, and their significance must be left-to-right.
  8. Don't hide information using shared reminiscence.
  9. Do not discuss this game outside this thread or PTs related to this game you have access to.
  10. Do not use provable randomness. Saying you used a random criteria is fine, providing even weak evidence that you did so isn't.
  11. Do not fake mod posts/edits.
  12. Once you are dead you may not post. No bah posts.
  13. Be civil to other players. Criticize play, not players. As one rule of thumb, negative nouns or profane adjectives that describe a player will start strikes against you; describing actions of a player will not.
  14. No set of rules can be complete. If you think something is wrong, please don't do it. Breaking the spirit of rules is also disallowed. Do not encourage others to break the rules either. If in doubt, please PM me.
  15. Breaching of rules will usually result in a warning initially, but depending on severity, may result in a force-replacement or modkill.
  16. During the course of the game I may add extra rules if necessary. These rule changes will be announced publicly.

Deadlines, Activity, and replacements
  1. Day start. Days will last N+2 days, where N is always 12. If a setup has town group decisions with an unclear deadline, it will generally follow this formula also.
  2. Nights will last 48 hours. Similar mafia controlled decisions last 48 hours.
  3. Prods will be issued if you do not post for 48 hours.
  4. If you get three or more prods, or fail to respond to a prod by posting in thread within 24 hours (or by PM if at Night), I will begin seeking for a replacement (this means the third prod functions like a notice that you are racing the search for your replacement.)
  5. If you receive a prod and satisfy that prod, you are "on probation" for the next 96 hours after responding to that prod. Meeting criteria for a prod during probation immediately triggers the search for your replacement even if it's your second prod.
  6. If you expect to be unable to post for a while, please declare V/LA in thread. Should your V/LA be unreasonably long (>5 days), however, I strongly suggest you request replacement. There's no probation during V/LA
  7. You will still be prodded while on V/LA, but these will not count towards the above three prod limit. An official prod will be sent 24 hours after your V/LA ends if you haven't posted then.
  8. When replacements or prods happen at night, deadlines will be tolled as appropriate to conceal information. If it is possible to conceal information and avoid tolling by forcing the active part of a faction to make decision on behalf of the entire faction, though, the deadline will not be tolled.
  9. Factionally aligned groups can choose actions for eachothers and submit actions by PTs.
  10. For replacements, day deadlines are extended by the length of time between the missing player's due and the first post of the new player. A post that does little more than acknowledge they've replaced into the game isn't counted as that post. Don't exploit this rule. This rule may be modified for Team Mafia.
  11. If you would like to replace out, please PM me. Do not publicly replace out, discuss about wanting to replace out, threaten to replace out, or persuade/dissuade others from replacing out for any reason other than activity. If you think the mods have not noticed an activity issue, you can PM me to take note of it, but I will not credit your -arguments- about whether the activity level is replaceworthy or not (due to bias concerns). You would just be drawing my attention to it.
  12. Once your replacement request is publicized, it is final. You must cease to post. Inquiries about possibly retaining the slot must be conducted by mod PM.

Voting Rules
  1. Use VOTE: to vote.
  2. Abbreviations or misspellings in votes will be accepted as long as it is clear who you are voting for.
  3. Once majority is achieved, it is final, and the Day will end immediately with further votes and unvotes being invalid.
  4. If majority is not achieved by deadline, there will be No Elimination.
  5. I will do my best to ensure that each vote count is accurate. Check the vote counts. If I make a grave error I may reset all votes at my discretion.



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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:21 pm

Public setup announcementThe following things are modconfirmed to be true about this game:
All members of the mafia can multitask the factional kill (they can perform the factional kill and use an individual ability the same night).
All players with a Private Topic can use it to talk during both Day and Night, even if there is no player with the Encryptor ability included.
There is a mafiosi with an Informed modifier that tells them what roles comprise the setup. (That player has an exemption from needing to paraphrase if they'd like to share it in the mafia PT).
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:30 pm

Throughout the game, I will be playing Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup live. I'll take turns between each votecount, and maybe a couple extra, and show you a screenshot the next time something interesting happens.

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This is the title screen. Merely being on this screen, at least in the tiles version, makes the keyboard begin erasing your previous character's name and writing it at the top, which is slightly counterintuitive, but then you realize it saves you some clicking and keystrokes once you understand it.

We will name our adventurer T-Bone. Because I am only good enough at the game to get a 3-5 rune run, we are hoping this is not a speedrun. However, I die upwards of 98% of runs, so it probably will be.

A minimum of 3 runes are required to win the game.
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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:34 pm

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Let's at least get the game started.

There are many races to choose from, with advantages and disadvantages. T-Bone will be a draconian, like Spyro. I am not sure if version 0.26 has some buffs for draconians that makes winning with them easier, or if I need to git gud, but "beginner" means it should be easy for me to win a 3 rune run with a draconian, although I never have. (Just deep elf and minotaur)
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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:40 pm

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Don't worry, this is the last page. Backgrounds in white are recommended for that race, meaning their skills or special traits line up well with the starting skill and items of the background. Unlike race, crosstraining enough can make it impossible to tell what your background originally was.

Spyro breathes fire, so let's make a fire elementalist. All draconians have elemental breath of a random type no matter which you choose, but this is fun. The first votecount will be ready to show T-Bone starting his adventure.
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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:59 pm

Welcome! SAMPLEROLEPM, you are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no active abilities.

You win the game when all threats to the town are eliminated if at least one town-aligned player is alive.
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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:01 pm

Playerlist and replacements:

Sirius9121
Hectic=Augustus Caesar
Aristophanes
Datisi
Ydrasse=Summer Nights
Creature
xofelf
DeasVail
The Bulge
Adorable
petapan
xRECKONERx
RCEnigma <-beeboy
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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:07 pm

A minor note: This game's setup was designed as a predesigned 13p for the normal queue, then repurposed for Team Mafia. The primary designer was Isis and the primary reviewer was schadd_, secondary implosion.
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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:02 pm

With enough confirmations, the game begins.
Ydrasse is replaced by her open alt, Summer Nights.
Hectic is replaced by his open alt, Auguatus Caesar.
I am less than 100% confident of the spellings.
Votecount 1.0
  • Sirius9121 (0)
  • Augautus Caesar (0)
  • Aristophanes (0)
  • Datisi (0)
  • Summer Nights (0)
  • Creature (0)
  • xofelf (0)
  • DeasVail (0)
  • The Bulge (0)
  • Adorable (0)
  • petapan (0)
  • xRECKONERx (0)
  • beeboy (0)
Not Voting : Sirius9121, Augautus Caesar, Aristophanes, Datisi, Summer Nights, Creature, xofelf, DeasVail, The Bulge, Adorable, petapan, xRECKONERx, beeboy
Deadline: (expired on 2021-01-29 21:00:00)

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T-Bone the fire elementalist starts out amongst some foliage. He can attack the plants, but they yield no experience, so being a speedrunner, he will more quickly advance by moving into those empty spaces. Diagonal moves are allowed in DCSS, so you can see that there is a way out.
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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:02 pm

woo!

VOTE: sirius
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.” ~Menalque

Mini Normal 2205 is in day four!

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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:03 pm

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VOTE: sirius
i'm losing my edge

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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:08 pm

Ooo a wagon already?
I'm in!

VOTE: Sirius
Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;) - Jingle
Now not only are you proficient in stupid
you're proficient in stupid in two languages
CONGRATULATIONS - Silverclaw
Ari has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:38 pm

In post 8, Isis wrote:
  • xofelf (0)
  • DeasVail (0)
  • The Bulge (0)
  • Adorable (0)
  • petapan (0)

I feel disrespected! I'm hurt!

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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:38 pm

VOTE: sirius

the coveted 4th vote

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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:42 pm

lots of scumtells from bulge, 4th vote on a wagon
i'm losing my edge

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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:43 pm

Seems legit, definitely the biggest scumtell of them all!

I mean, them not being bolded fully is basically Isis telling us they are scum, right?
Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;) - Jingle
Now not only are you proficient in stupid
you're proficient in stupid in two languages
CONGRATULATIONS - Silverclaw
Ari has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:45 pm

Damn what a bad start
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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:45 pm

i aim high like that

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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:45 pm

Wished I could wait for Monday
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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:46 pm

I read that "I am high like that" and it was extremely on brand haha
Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;) - Jingle
Now not only are you proficient in stupid
you're proficient in stupid in two languages
CONGRATULATIONS - Silverclaw
Ari has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
- MooseEatsBear on discord mafia

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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:46 pm

In post 18, Creature wrote:Wished I could wait for Monday
Just V/LA :)
Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;) - Jingle
Now not only are you proficient in stupid
you're proficient in stupid in two languages
CONGRATULATIONS - Silverclaw
Ari has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
- MooseEatsBear on discord mafia

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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:46 pm

In post 18, Creature wrote:Wished I could wait for Monday
Just V/LA :)
Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;) - Jingle
Now not only are you proficient in stupid
you're proficient in stupid in two languages
CONGRATULATIONS - Silverclaw
Ari has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
- MooseEatsBear on discord mafia

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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:47 pm

I have rolled town
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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:47 pm

Oops, the coveted first doublepost of the game!

Creature wrote:I have rolled town
Ohey me too!
Who is the scums?
Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;) - Jingle
Now not only are you proficient in stupid
you're proficient in stupid in two languages
CONGRATULATIONS - Silverclaw
Ari has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
- MooseEatsBear on discord mafia

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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:48 pm

In post 20, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 18, Creature wrote:Wished I could wait for Monday
Just V/LA :)

I don't think that's necessary. It's just that I have an important exam on Sunday and I'm afraid this game may distract me from my studies.
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