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Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:27 pm

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In post 9, Thestatusquo wrote:This might be a scum claim but in honor of UTs well known mafia strategy I will be voting all the anime avatars in this game. I will not be taking any questions at this time.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Die suck die die scum die die suck die die scum die suck die.
I've decided I'm just going to sheep Shea this entire game.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
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Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:48 pm

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In post 16, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 14, zoraster wrote:
In post 9, Thestatusquo wrote:This might be a scum claim but in honor of UTs well known mafia strategy I will be voting all the anime avatars in this game. I will not be taking any questions at this time.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Die suck die die scum die die suck die die scum die suck die.
I've decided I'm just going to sheep Shea this entire game.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
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Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:59 pm

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In post 22, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 20, zoraster wrote:
In post 16, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 14, zoraster wrote:
In post 9, Thestatusquo wrote:This might be a scum claim but in honor of UTs well known mafia strategy I will be voting all the anime avatars in this game. I will not be taking any questions at this time.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Die suck die die scum die die suck die die scum die suck die.
I've decided I'm just going to sheep Shea this entire game.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
uh, why
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Whenever someone does something like this I like to follow up with this and see where it goes.

VOTE: Zoraster

So are you going to self vote or nah?
seems fine
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Post Post #238 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:47 pm

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I've been told I can't quote my teammates but I CAN paraphrase them so, here's Cephrir laying down a dope beat:

Yo Zoraster, you got to do something, man
Can't just lurk around like you got no plan
See Flavor Leaf made a scummy vote
You gotta push his wagon until you're sore in the throat.
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Post Post #241 (isolation #4) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:51 pm

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oh I got so focused on my sweet rhymes that I forgot to

VOTE: Flavor Leaf
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Post Post #242 (isolation #5) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:53 pm

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In post 240, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 238, zoraster wrote:I've been told I can't quote my teammates but I CAN paraphrase them so, here's Cephrir laying down a dope beat:

Yo Zoraster, you got to do something, man
Can't just lurk around like you got no plan
See Flavor Leaf made a scummy vote
You gotta push his wagon until you're sore in the throat.
You gunna explain? What are your or Cephs thoughts on my interactions with ramcius if you're reading the thread?
Town v. Town (that's my take, not Ceph's)
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Post Post #244 (isolation #6) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:55 pm

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You'll have to enlighten me.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #7) » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:01 pm

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First and by way of delaying my answer until I finish with this video game, do you NOT think it's scummy?
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Post Post #572 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:14 am

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In post 551, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Btw what’s the deal with Akarin, Pine and Zor not playing in their Team Mafia game? Shameful.
a fair point, honestly. Got sidetracked on the long weekend.

A very late follow up: Flavor's vote on mist (long ago!) looked like an attempt to look busy, and misty's response was totally reasonable so it plays as very contrived. Which is frankly how I read Flavor overall this game.

For example, the interaction between DEB and Flavor is weird. I've been informed by my more knowledgeable teammate that Flavor and DEB know each other well and that lurking would not be seen as alignment indicative for DEB. Then DEB comes in and says "oh hi" and Flavor is suddenly off that? I have no idea about DEB, but it doesn't make me feel good about Flavor.

Busy-ness being the code word here. It's doing very little work, but it's being very active and in front. Pushing a wagon against him would be
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Post Post #580 (isolation #9) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:03 am

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Oh well if a self-proclaimed
loud
slot declares it I guess I better do it. I'll be perfectly clear: I don't have to do jack shit because NorwegianboyEE has said I do. I will naturally and always focus on the things that I find pertinent. If you want me to comment on other specific people, feel free to ask about them specifically.
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Post Post #590 (isolation #10) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:17 am

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In post 585, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i was originally going to wait to see more from zor before placing a vote here, but this post is just so needless, hostile, and uncalled for (zor, you haven't done much with the game and aren't responding to any pushes on you, which is terribly scum indicative and i haven't seen a single? towny thing from ANY of your posts), so VOTE: zor this is reasonable here.
I'm hostile here because I am in no way going to pretend that loudness is what we should be seeking as to whether or not someone is worthy of driving a wagon. I think the other criticisms are fair! I haven't done much! Be annoyed with me as a player if you want. I would be if I were you. Vote for me if you think that makes me scum. You're wrong but this I get! But don't tell me that someone posting a lot and sees themselves as an
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Post Post #595 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:28 am

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In post 591, Mistyx wrote:
In post 590, zoraster wrote:
In post 585, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i was originally going to wait to see more from zor before placing a vote here, but this post is just so needless, hostile, and uncalled for (zor, you haven't done much with the game and aren't responding to any pushes on you, which is terribly scum indicative and i haven't seen a single? towny thing from ANY of your posts), so VOTE: zor this is reasonable here.
I'm hostile here because I am in no way going to pretend that loudness is what we should be seeking as to whether or not someone is worthy of driving a wagon. I think the other criticisms are fair! I haven't done much! Be annoyed with me as a player if you want. I would be if I were you. Vote for me if you think that makes me scum. You're wrong but this I get! But don't tell me that someone posting a lot and sees themselves as an
important player
is the reason I should do anything.
if you think the criticism is fair, why are you being hostile towards it?
see:
In post 594, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 590, zoraster wrote:I'm hostile here because I am in no way going to pretend that loudness is what we should be seeking as to whether or not someone is worthy of driving a wagon.
:`(
Me feel so bad now.
He's hostile because i claimed to be important, oh woe be me the world is so unfair.
Ignoring the snark, this is accurate.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:43 pm

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I'm Arale Norimake of the Anime Empire. I have a power of Kiiin! which is a JOAT.

NorwegianboyEE(87), Nancy Drew 39(131), TheGoldenParadox(29), thestatusquo(108), BBMolla(32), Flavor Leaf(112)

Yeah I'm sure Flavor is town :roll: Given the speed of this, he probably already had a scum buddy on the wagon. I read TGP and NEE as town, so BBMolla is where I'd start after Flavor. That said, I've thought shea read as town up until now and I probably stick with that, but although I don't have much experience with shea as a player, "low hanging fruit" doesn't really seem like the process that townshea would make. See his push on Ramcius. If he's around near the end of the game, make sure to take a good look at him.
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Post Post #683 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:47 pm

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Oh I missed Nancy on that. I don't really know what to make of her.
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Post Post #686 (isolation #14) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:37 pm

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I don't think that's a question I should answer
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Post Post #688 (isolation #15) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:39 pm

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In post 684, Flavor Leaf wrote:I probably could of stayed off your wagon and have it go through without me if I were scum here.

The claim is interesting, but frankly, they're doing nothing but shading me, so I'm indifferent.
If you were town, you'd be concerned about those victory points you get further from by eliminating a townie (a PR one too!). I'm apparently not any threat to you as no one else is giving my read any credence, so you're just miffed I think you're really scummy and so you're going to get on a wagon you now know to bad? Nah.
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Post Post #689 (isolation #16) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:40 pm

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In post 687, Flavor Leaf wrote:Wanna move to TGP?
Like I know that my contributions to this game are voluminous so you'd be forgiven for missing it, but I did JUST say that he's town.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #17) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:24 pm

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In post 697, Akarin wrote:
In post 682, zoraster wrote:"low hanging fruit" doesn't really seem like the process that townshea would make. See his push on Ramcius. If he's around near the end of the game, make sure to take a good look at him.
What does this mean?

Do you think Ram is lhf, or you?
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Post Post #709 (isolation #18) » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:33 pm

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In post 708, Mistyx wrote:@zor
How many total charges of abilities do you have?
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Post Post #884 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:06 am

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I asked him to read TGP, and Ceph thinks it's possible TGP is scum, but is confused at why he's a popular target. Also as scum it'd be weird to go after Nancy because she'll definitely OMGUS you. Not the wagon I'd go for today, and it's practically the same wagon as the one that was on me (Flavor, BBmolla, Nancy, NEE). The only difference is Mistyx being on it and shea avoiding it despite really going after TGP (and obviously TGP not being on it). Kind of just reinforces to me that assuming there were a couple of scum on my wagon that it's not TGP.

Let's talk about interactions between common people on these wagons.

NEE about Flavor: Opening post is a vote for FL, says that FL vote is town. Directly talks to FL once. Gets asked a question directly by FL and responds with a scum game. Once more recently but just about how the game isn't chaotic.
Flavor about NEE: Quite a few. Asks NEE about his reads. There's a short back and forth previously mentioned here.

These two don't seem to be likely to be both scum, though I admit Flavor seems like the type of person who is good at interacting with his scummates.

NEE about BBMolla: basically agrees with BBM saying he's content with the Ram vote. Claims he'd support a BBM wagon if not for the wagon on me... then joins the TGP vote (justified later by then saying that TGP is the scummy one and bbmolla is "slightly scummy")
BBM about NEE: Votes for NEE in a jokingly way then goes back to the Pine project he assigned himself. No further interactions.

If one of these two are scum I could definitely see the other being scum. NEE could be halfheartedly distancing from BBM. That said, BBM doesn't have many interactions with anyone so have to adjust on that basis.

NEE about Nancy: His iso is FULL of interaction with Nancy.
Nancy about NEE: Likewise here.

Are NEE and Nancy otherwise good friends? Because assuming not, it seems unlikely to me that these two are together.

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BBM about Flavor: Gets asked a direct question by FL and answers it quickly. Says he's "unconcerned with sorting FL today."
Flavor about BBM: Spends some time calling BBM "obviously town." Other than the direct question to BBM has no interaction with him until BBM says that he's unconcerned with FL.

Definitely a possible pairing, though again part of this is BBM has fewer interactions overall so it seems less determinative.

BBM about Nancy: recently called Nancy town. Otherwise nothing.
Nancy about BBM: Agrees with the Pine vote by BBM. Calls into question BBM's Pine vote later. Answers a question about Ramcius.

Nancy's posts to BBM seem pretty organic at least.

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Nancy about Flavor: Similar to NEE, Nancy has oodles of interactions.
Flavor about Nancy: Similar.

Again, I think Nancy and Flavor are probably two people who would interact a lot with their scum partners, but I have no reason to believe that they're both scum aligned.

Eliminating Flavor and him turning scum would point me toward BBM but probably not NorwegianboyEE. My town read of Nancy aside, I feel like the two of them are probably well suited to playing off each other as scum.

Eliminating BBM doesn't really do much for this type of analysis, unfortunately as he could be a potential partner to basically anyone on that list.


NEE and Nancy aren't really two people I'm excited to see go today outside of this.
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Post Post #896 (isolation #20) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:22 pm

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In post 891, NorwegianboyEE wrote:To all those voting anyone not TGP. What’s your current take.

Btw consider this E_1 because DEB will prob hammer if he get’s the chance.
is this because he suspects TGP?
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Post Post #899 (isolation #21) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:25 pm

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DEB doesn't mention TGP even once?
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Post Post #901 (isolation #22) » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:27 pm

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just because you call it IioA doesn't make it so. Every single pairing has analysis. Admittedly the power of it is limited, but that seems like such a fake conclusion to draw from it.
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #23) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:56 pm

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I'd far prefer FL for the reasons I've stated, but feels senseless to stay on when no one really cares about it.

VOTE: BBMolla
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #24) » Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:00 pm

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It at least has someone else. Push comes to shove Akarin would be okay.
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Post Post #1350 (isolation #25) » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:17 pm

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Ceph went through this game and has given me a bunch of reads. And his major message is that he's confused why i didn't vote akarin instead of BB, and he thinks the neighborizor is a town role this game ("gut" he says).

So I guess that's what I'm doing. The BBMolla vote, for those who asked, was me trying to use the prior two wagons (TGP and myself) to link up people. I'd prefer Flavor to get a read on the others, but that's not happening today so whatever.

VOTE: Akarin

Ceph also agrees with Shea that Pine's anger doesn't feel real.
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