TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[TheGoldenParadox]

I don't understand why people think that people can play differently from game to game. I don't fall in the "meta is trash" camp but I certainly think its overused and mostly badly in cases like this one.

*people CAN'T play differently

How much experience do you have playing with Norwee? His scum and towngames are night and day. No one changes up their meta this much in that short a period of time and this isn’t how scum!?orwee reacts to pressure on him.

Both me and Koba strongly tr him and Ico - who was town MVP in one Krazy game I played is also agreeing with me, so no, Norwee is off the table.

throw out every ounce of meta you have on norwee - what is your read of his play this game?


pedit: that's understandable, norwee.

[TheGoldenParadox]

It feels like they're trying to keep me from being town read by town reading the people town reading me

....no.

[TheGoldenParadox]

I think it's unlikely for scum to make a post such as 390.
Rest of their catchup was ok.

I feel like I've made that exact post as scum before.

nice shade btw

do you feel like you belong in a townblock?

do you agree when I say I think you made enough scummy looking posts to simply… not be hard townread at this point?

I always belong in a townblock, even when I'm scum.

gonna go all out and say that fl is good enough at scum that he never belongs in a townblock unless he's mod-confirmed town, no matter how towny you think he is.

[TheGoldenParadox]

I'm always LHF as scum because i barely post and freeze. Does that make me town in those games? It absolutely doesn't.
Do you have reason to believe Zoraster plays like this as town?

I'm always LHF as scum because i barely post and freeze. Does that make me town in those games? It absolutely doesn't.
Do you have reason to believe Zoraster plays like this as town?

let me clarify

i don't think zoraster is only lhf as either alignment, and i don't think him being lhf says anything about his alignment in this game

i'm saying regardless of his alignment, he is lhf this game, and that makes him an easy push

that is my logic here

yeah, trying to push someone for doing an easy push on your teammate is kind of the premier example of chainsawing, so i'd think if one of misty/zor is scum, the other is likely scum as well.
i'd be willing to vote zoraster later on but right now nancy hasn't improved and i'm also going to consult my teammates a bit before changing my vote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think what bothers me about Misty's play here is that they vote me and state it is because quote: "I'm voting/pushing a low hanging fruit slot", so when i ask them by which logic this slot is not scum they answer they have no idea reason to believe the slot is either scum or town. A hard null read essentially, so that just makes it super weird because why would you assume someone a player is scum for pushing a slot you yourself nullread?

[Flavor Leaf]

Well you know what, I'm gonna make my own town block, and you're not gonna be invited, how you like that one, TEE GEE PEE, if that's even your real name.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think what bothers me about Misty's play here is that they vote me and state it is because quote: "I'm voting/pushing a low hanging fruit slot", so when i ask them by which logic this slot is not scum they answer they have no reason to believe the slot is either scum or town. A hard null read essentially, so that just makes it super weird because why would you assume a player is scum for pushing a slot you yourself nullread?

Fixed sentence.

[Flavor Leaf]

gonna go all out and say that fl is good enough at scum that he never belongs in a townblock unless he's mod-confirmed town, no matter how towny you think he is.

but yeah, it's really effected my town game because people absolutely can't town read me anymore.

[Mistyx]

I think what bothers me about Misty's play here is that they vote me and state it is because quote: "I'm voting/pushing a low hanging fruit slot", so when i ask them by which logic this slot is not scum they answer they have no idea reason to believe the slot is either scum or town. A hard null read essentially, so that just makes it super weird because why would you assume someone a player is scum for pushing a slot you yourself nullread?

because that's the majority of your substantial content

[Mistyx]

MC caught up btw

he didn't like any of TGP's votes and thought nancy's 147 could be WKing Norwee, and is liking shea and FL

personally am still sorta liking nancy and have no read on TGP

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think what bothers me about Misty's play here is that they vote me and state it is because quote: "I'm voting/pushing a low hanging fruit slot", so when i ask them by which logic this slot is not scum they answer they have no idea reason to believe the slot is either scum or town. A hard null read essentially, so that just makes it super weird because why would you assume someone a player is scum for pushing a slot you yourself nullread?

because that's the majority of your substantial content

No it is not.
I've expressed townreads, had opinions, posted ten times more than a couple players.
Wtf is this garbage opinion?

[Thestatusquo]

I don't understand why people think that people can play differently from game to game. I don't fall in the "meta is trash" camp but I certainly think its overused and mostly badly in cases like this one.

*people CAN'T play differently

How much experience do you have playing with Norwee? His scum and towngames are night and day. No one changes up their meta this much in that short a period of time and this isn’t how scum!?orwee reacts to pressure on him.

Both me and Koba strongly tr him and Ico - who was town MVP in one Krazy game I played is also agreeing with me, so no, Norwee is off the table.

I fundamentally do not agree that most people actually play "night and day" as scum v town. I think this is a thing people say that just doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I could read a bunch of games to find out if I agree with you on norwee in particular but honestly my experience with other times people have said similar things to me about other players tells me I don't have to. And honestly, I think statements like this end up being hubris like a high 90s percentage of the time.

[Thestatusquo]

xRECKONERx wants me to take this time to tell all of you that meta is trash and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

After that I'm pretty sure he went outside and did this:

[Nancy Drew 39]

Koba and I are mindmelding on Norwee/Ico/Misty/Molla/FL being the town core.

I'm ok with Ico/Misty/FL town so far. Molla i'm unsure about.

I liked his reaction to Misty and his response to being sr in general.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Votecount 1.07

Nancy Drew 39(3)

~ Ramcius(22), TheGoldenParadox(9), Dr Easy Bake(8)

zoraster(2)

~ NorwegianboyEE(49), Nancy Drew 39(80)

Ramcius(2)

~ thestatusquo(67), Akarin(1)

Pine(1)

~ BBMolla(21)

Mistyx(1)

~ Flavor Leaf(85)

Flavor Leaf(1)

~ zoraster(8)

Dr Easy Bake(1)

~ Mistyx(35)


Not Voting (2): Iconeum(24), Pine(5)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-29 19:00:00)

Mod Notes

Have fun!

@DEB if Zor flips scum, people should be looking at you for this votepark.

[Thestatusquo]

Ramcius has continued to be absent from the thread any time their name has not been brought up. Continues to respond to my vote in the most awful possibly ways. Continues to not be able to give a single shred of townie mindset on anything that has happened.

We here at Ramcius Wagon LLC are still actively recruiting, we're looking to expand by oh, call it 5 or so people in the next 11 days. No pay but our benefits package of getting to eliminate scum is fire.

[Thestatusquo]

Votecount 1.07

Nancy Drew 39(3)

~ Ramcius(22), TheGoldenParadox(9), Dr Easy Bake(8)

zoraster(2)

~ NorwegianboyEE(49), Nancy Drew 39(80)

Ramcius(2)

~ thestatusquo(67), Akarin(1)

Pine(1)

~ BBMolla(21)

Mistyx(1)

~ Flavor Leaf(85)

Flavor Leaf(1)

~ zoraster(8)

Dr Easy Bake(1)

~ Mistyx(35)


Not Voting (2): Iconeum(24), Pine(5)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-29 19:00:00)

Mod Notes

Have fun!

@DEB if Zor flips scum, people should be looking at you for this votepark.

want to run that one by me again?

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Norwegian - why are you town reading Ico?

Why are you not? I probably wouldn’t have you in my townblock if Koba wasn’t so convinced of it. I wouldn’t be scumreading you either but his doubt on you isn’t exactly insane.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Norwegian - why are you town reading Ico?

Why are you not? I probably wouldn’t have you in my townblock if Koba wasn’t so convinced of it. I wouldn’t be scumreading you either but THEIR doubt on you isn’t exactly insane.

shit.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Votecount 1.07

Nancy Drew 39(3)

~ Ramcius(22), TheGoldenParadox(9), Dr Easy Bake(8)

zoraster(2)

~ NorwegianboyEE(49), Nancy Drew 39(80)

Ramcius(2)

~ thestatusquo(67), Akarin(1)

Pine(1)

~ BBMolla(21)

Mistyx(1)

~ Flavor Leaf(85)

Flavor Leaf(1)

~ zoraster(8)

Dr Easy Bake(1)

~ Mistyx(35)


Not Voting (2): Iconeum(24), Pine(5)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-01-29 19:00:00)

Mod Notes

Have fun!

@DEB if Zor flips scum, people should be looking at you for this votepark.

want to run that one by me again?

If he stays on it because it’s a bad vote without reasons.

[NorwegianboyEE]

DEB’s been scum for like the tenth time in a row if he is in this game as well.
I’m not even sure how he plays as town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

DEB’s been scum for like the tenth time in a row if he is in this game as well.
I’m not even sure how he plays as town.

I used to be able to correctly tell his alignment because you used to spam the game as scum but in his last scumgame he didn’t do that anymore, so I think it’s a really scummy vote on me. Town!him would probably try to sort first without voting but I don’t know.

[Nancy Drew 39]

DEB’s been scum for like the tenth time in a row if he is in this game as well.
I’m not even sure how he plays as town.

I used to be able to correctly tell his alignment because HE used to spam the game as scum but in his last scumgame he didn’t do that anymore, so I think it’s a really scummy vote on me. Town!him would probably try to sort first without voting but I don’t know.

I should probably not post until I’m completely awake.

[Thestatusquo]

Reck is being increasingly annoying about telling me I should be voting Zoraster because he doesn't like how zor continues to avoid the thread or come in to defend his statements and shifting the burden of proof for them to me instead of just explaining them.

I, on the other hand, don't really see any reason why I shouldn't just continue to vote ramcius who has given me literally 0 indication he is town.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Norwegian - why are you town reading Ico?

Why are you not? I probably wouldn’t have you in my townblock if Koba wasn’t so convinced of it. I wouldn’t be scumreading you either but his doubt on you isn’t exactly insane.

And you think that's a reason for me to town read them?

Here's the thing, I will never town read someone for expressing that type of doubt this early in a game. I'm an easy read once the game gets deeper, people just always try to push me Day 1.