TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[Iconeum]

@FL you really don't wanna engage with me head on huh

[Thestatusquo]

I really want to vote you for making me look at that gif.

[Iconeum]

I really want to vote you for making me look at that gif.

i'll use spoiler tags

maybe

[Iconeum]

i didn't vote to have anime as flavour but here we are lol

[Iconeum]

I mean, if my teammate comes up with a perspective which I did not originally consider am I supposed to ignore it? If you look at my other posts where I reference reads from my teammates you'll see I have no problem disagreeing with them where I do. I never said my town read on zor was a solid immutable thing and I do think that the longer he goes without contributing anything to thread or explaining himself the worse he looks.

Do you disagree with that reasoning? I feel like I'm allowed to change my mind and I also feel like I'm allowed to have suspicions of more than one person at a time?

it's obviously not a problem to have multiple (scum) reads, but the way that post was structured just feels like you were already preparing your position for a future vote if and when that wagon would really pick up.

[Thestatusquo]

I'm getting really frustrated that no one is willing to join me on ramcius more than anything else.

[Thestatusquo]

And really frustrated that nancy seems to have their own agenda and is not willing to consider anyone elses perspective, and even more frustrating that I think she's town for it.

[Iconeum]

I'm getting really frustrated that no one is willing to join me on ramcius more than anything else.

-low content
-dodging conversation
-lurking as soon as pressure on them stops

is that about it or was there more substance that I overlooked?

[Iconeum]

And really frustrated that nancy seems to have their own agenda and is not willing to consider anyone elses perspective, and even more frustrating that I think she's town for it.

i don't really see the 'own agenda' part wrt Nancy? I think they are giving reads, interacting, deploying partner reads, stirring shit up here and there.
With the realization that i'm prone to being pocketed, ofcourse i'm a bit carefull but in all, I like Nancy slot.

[Thestatusquo]

-not able to provide a single instance where they have looked at a thing that happened in the thread and determined that it was NAI (or scummy, or anything!) and why despite saying that "nothing alignment indicative had happened"
-I feel like deliberately misrepresenting me at multiple points in the conversation to try to discredit me in a disingenuous way.
-Attacking me vaguely with "gotchas!" like "you're not coming up with reads either!" which were just straight up not true, sometimes demonstrably false in the very posts being quoted. basically I felt like his entire conversation with me he was being completely disingenuous.
-Didn't place the vote on me the other time because was clearly trying to avoid a 1v1 even though he kept throwing repeated shade and talking about how I was scum.

[Thestatusquo]

And really frustrated that nancy seems to have their own agenda and is not willing to consider anyone elses perspective, and even more frustrating that I think she's town for it.

i don't really see the 'own agenda' part wrt Nancy? I think they are giving reads, interacting, deploying partner reads, stirring shit up here and there.
With the realization that i'm prone to being pocketed, ofcourse i'm a bit carefull but in all, I like Nancy slot.

I just think she's being very unwilling to engage with the idea that her conceptions of meta are and should be might not be correct. I'm really not sure how to approach a disagreement with a statement like "X person plays night and day as town and scum" when I don't think a statement like that is true wrt like 95% of players.

[Thestatusquo]

It's not like an alignment thing its a vibe thing. I'm just not vibing with her with how she's approaching reading people and I don't really know how I'm supposed to approach that.

[Iconeum]

And really frustrated that nancy seems to have their own agenda and is not willing to consider anyone elses perspective, and even more frustrating that I think she's town for it.

i don't really see the 'own agenda' part wrt Nancy? I think they are giving reads, interacting, deploying partner reads, stirring shit up here and there.
With the realization that i'm prone to being pocketed, ofcourse i'm a bit carefull but in all, I like Nancy slot.

I just think she's being very unwilling to engage with the idea that her conceptions of meta are and should be might not be correct. I'm really not sure how to approach a disagreement with a statement like "X person plays night and day as town and scum" when I don't think a statement like that is true wrt like 95% of players.

i consider that entire discussion irrellevant

[Iconeum]

-not able to provide a single instance where they have looked at a thing that happened in the thread and determined that it was NAI (or scummy, or anything!) and why despite saying that "nothing alignment indicative had happened"
-I feel like deliberately misrepresenting me at multiple points in the conversation to try to discredit me in a disingenuous way.
-Attacking me vaguely with "gotchas!" like "you're not coming up with reads either!" which were just straight up not true, sometimes demonstrably false in the very posts being quoted. basically I felt like his entire conversation with me he was being completely disingenuous.
-Didn't place the vote on me the other time because was clearly trying to avoid a 1v1 even though he kept throwing repeated shade and talking about how I was scum.

you definitely make good points, but there is also alot of personal involvement in there, where you simply feel like you are being mistreated/ignored?

[Iconeum]

i don't really see a 'this is scum' with Ramcius rn...

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Pine

it's not a party until everyone's here

[Thestatusquo]

Agree to disagree then. Shrug.

[Iconeum]

for what it's worth, i think your push on ramcius comes from a towny mindset

[Iconeum]

this may be a strange thing to ask but

who are the strongest scumhunters in this pl?

[Thestatusquo]

I have no idea, I've played one game in the last year.

[NorwegianboyEE]

this may be a strange thing to ask but

who are the strongest scumhunters in this pl?

People don’t wanna believe it but it’s totally me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And really frustrated that nancy seems to have their own agenda and is not willing to consider anyone elses perspective, and even more frustrating that I think she's town for it.

This is like 100% town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

DEB’s vote is still worse but Dung! TGP did unvote me when it was obvious he was wrong so, that’s definitely concerning.

do you... do you think you're obvtown here? because i'd love to hear how you think so.
do you think i'm town and bad at reading you as a rule, or do you think i'm scum?

TGP, be honest with me here.
Did you roll scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

what do you mean by understandable but safe, and what do you think it means for his alignment?

like

i don't disagree with his pushes

but i think they're really easy ones to make regardless of his alignment

so i dont think it points to anything about his alignment

which makes me read him as slightly scummy

this is a decent answer to make and makes me slightly townlean misty

both mistyx and tgp get townpoints for this

This is literally giving credulence to Flavours "Ico/TGP are alligned" idea.

[Iconeum]

i had to google credulence