I do think it's likely town v town but I also don't want to stop anyone from exploring their scumreads. It's a bad habit of mine that has gotten me into trouble. I would stop a wagon on either though.In post 1310, OkaPoka wrote:hercule lets use the power of friendship to make hopkirk and unwnd friends at least for today
yes but i want to form a voting bloc and that requires them to be friemds D:In post 1325, hercule wrote:I do think it's likely town v town but I also don't want to stop anyone from exploring their scumreads. It's a bad habit of mine that has gotten me into trouble. I would stop a wagon on either though.In post 1310, OkaPoka wrote:hercule lets use the power of friendship to make hopkirk and unwnd friends at least for today
unless you mean they should just be friendly to each other, in which case, yes
ok when the time is right I will blow the horn of gondorIn post 1327, OkaPoka wrote:yes but i want to form a voting bloc and that requires them to be friemds D:In post 1325, hercule wrote:I do think it's likely town v town but I also don't want to stop anyone from exploring their scumreads. It's a bad habit of mine that has gotten me into trouble. I would stop a wagon on either though.In post 1310, OkaPoka wrote:hercule lets use the power of friendship to make hopkirk and unwnd friends at least for today
unless you mean they should just be friendly to each other, in which case, yes
alright, where do you want to go?In post 1329, OkaPoka wrote:the time is now to make the orcs n goblins nervous
In post 1250, unwnd wrote:Maybe it's my own impatience but I've mulling over my vote on AGar and came to my own conclusion he isn't going to respond. The game has changed and so too is the way I read most players. Back in the day I'd come through their words to spot contradictions but I find scum nowadays don't really give a shit about making convincing arguments, no, it's more about the presentation. Something that makes townies go 'well, by effort and substantiation he must be town!' because people have gotten so traumatized by a red PM these days and believe scum just won't effort as much as town that it's almost bordering ridiculous. I am against this mindset because it assumes that people enjoy losing, which I'm pretty sure if you're playing any game the objective is to win.
This vote is something almost all of my team agree on. I don't really bode well with (post) (post) (post) analysis and instead giving a general description of what I see.As for what I see? I sorta let it slide but there was a moment where Hopkirk responded to me saying 'i kinda like to work list up and then down first, getting townreads'. This is fine in practice, yet he remained quite passive-aggressive. I also think that line alone is disingenuous but is playing a part of his style right now, which all seems quite excessive to me. I think Hopkirk in that instance only responded that way because it sounded good, not that he really believed it. If his MO was to look for townies and form townblocks, then what is his explanation of splintered ridicule throughout the ISO. The shift in dynamic doesn't bode with his own words. Go look at the way he silver tongues Hercule then ridicules others. This is not paraphrasing but this man really said 'don't like it when there's consequence for your actions, huh?' It's all based onproving a pointwhich is both petty and scummy.
It'd be really easy and really lazy to say 'he is being LAMISTy' but seriously that's boring and using umbrella terms like that caution back to the days where people would do things like Why me = Fry me. Mafia Jargon doesn't make someone scum guys, and I actually think scum are more prone to be lazy about their reads because it's pretty difficult to try and convince people.
Wouldn't even consider it a case at this point, just a callout of words and then us having a minor back-and-forthIn post 1330, Titus wrote:@unwnd, Can you link your case? I didn't see a case, which may be due to life. I'm inclined to disagree because I like his reads though.
i dunno but if we start the rumblings of forming teams and we can box out the wolves maybe the wolves will do something ai in panicIn post 1331, hercule wrote:alright, where do you want to go?In post 1329, OkaPoka wrote:the time is now to make the orcs n goblins nervous
No chicken man please I syntax error'd like 5 times in there and there's like one or two sentences in it I actually likeIn post 1332, OkaPoka wrote:In post 1250, unwnd wrote:Maybe it's my own impatience but I've mulling over my vote on AGar and came to my own conclusion he isn't going to respond. The game has changed and so too is the way I read most players. Back in the day I'd come through their words to spot contradictions but I find scum nowadays don't really give a shit about making convincing arguments, no, it's more about the presentation. Something that makes townies go 'well, by effort and substantiation he must be town!' because people have gotten so traumatized by a red PM these days and believe scum just won't effort as much as town that it's almost bordering ridiculous. I am against this mindset because it assumes that people enjoy losing, which I'm pretty sure if you're playing any game the objective is to win.
This vote is something almost all of my team agree on. I don't really bode well with (post) (post) (post) analysis and instead giving a general description of what I see.As for what I see? I sorta let it slide but there was a moment where Hopkirk responded to me saying 'i kinda like to work list up and then down first, getting townreads'. This is fine in practice, yet he remained quite passive-aggressive. I also think that line alone is disingenuous but is playing a part of his style right now, which all seems quite excessive to me. I think Hopkirk in that instance only responded that way because it sounded good, not that he really believed it. If his MO was to look for townies and form townblocks, then what is his explanation of splintered ridicule throughout the ISO. The shift in dynamic doesn't bode with his own words. Go look at the way he silver tongues Hercule then ridicules others. This is not paraphrasing but this man really said 'don't like it when there's consequence for your actions, huh?' It's all based onproving a pointwhich is both petty and scummy.
It'd be really easy and really lazy to say 'he is being LAMISTy' but seriously that's boring and using umbrella terms like that caution back to the days where people would do things like Why me = Fry me. Mafia Jargon doesn't make someone scum guys, and I actually think scum are more prone to be lazy about their reads because it's pretty difficult to try and convince people.
@titus this is it i am speeding this up hopefully i dont interfere with your methods
you have my swordIn post 1334, OkaPoka wrote:i dunno but if we start the rumblings of forming teams and we can box out the wolves maybe the wolves will do something ai in panicIn post 1331, hercule wrote:alright, where do you want to go?In post 1329, OkaPoka wrote:the time is now to make the orcs n goblins nervous
only people im comfortable adding to the bloc are unwnd and hopkirk right nowIn post 1336, hercule wrote:you have my swordIn post 1334, OkaPoka wrote:i dunno but if we start the rumblings of forming teams and we can box out the wolves maybe the wolves will do something ai in panicIn post 1331, hercule wrote:alright, where do you want to go?In post 1329, OkaPoka wrote:the time is now to make the orcs n goblins nervous
what's your read on Cephrir?In post 1337, OkaPoka wrote:only people im comfortable adding to the bloc are unwnd and hopkirk right nowIn post 1336, hercule wrote:you have my swordIn post 1334, OkaPoka wrote:i dunno but if we start the rumblings of forming teams and we can box out the wolves maybe the wolves will do something ai in panicIn post 1331, hercule wrote:alright, where do you want to go?In post 1329, OkaPoka wrote:the time is now to make the orcs n goblins nervous
you have to deal with the ramifications of calling the council to orderIn post 1339, OkaPoka wrote:uh oh i was told to sheep you not the vice versa what has the game become
In post 1332, OkaPoka wrote:In post 1250, unwnd wrote:Maybe it's my own impatience but I've mulling over my vote on AGar and came to my own conclusion he isn't going to respond. The game has changed and so too is the way I read most players. Back in the day I'd come through their words to spot contradictions but I find scum nowadays don't really give a shit about making convincing arguments, no, it's more about the presentation. Something that makes townies go 'well, by effort and substantiation he must be town!' because people have gotten so traumatized by a red PM these days and believe scum just won't effort as much as town that it's almost bordering ridiculous. I am against this mindset because it assumes that people enjoy losing, which I'm pretty sure if you're playing any game the objective is to win.
This vote is something almost all of my team agree on. I don't really bode well with (post) (post) (post) analysis and instead giving a general description of what I see.As for what I see? I sorta let it slide but there was a moment where Hopkirk responded to me saying 'i kinda like to work list up and then down first, getting townreads'. This is fine in practice, yet he remained quite passive-aggressive. I also think that line alone is disingenuous but is playing a part of his style right now, which all seems quite excessive to me. I think Hopkirk in that instance only responded that way because it sounded good, not that he really believed it. If his MO was to look for townies and form townblocks, then what is his explanation of splintered ridicule throughout the ISO. The shift in dynamic doesn't bode with his own words. Go look at the way he silver tongues Hercule then ridicules others. This is not paraphrasing but this man really said 'don't like it when there's consequence for your actions, huh?' It's all based onproving a pointwhich is both petty and scummy.
It'd be really easy and really lazy to say 'he is being LAMISTy' but seriously that's boring and using umbrella terms like that caution back to the days where people would do things like Why me = Fry me. Mafia Jargon doesn't make someone scum guys, and I actually think scum are more prone to be lazy about their reads because it's pretty difficult to try and convince people.
@titus this is it i am speeding this up hopefully i dont interfere with your methods
lmao i saw this post in the pre-edit phase right as i was submitting but i submitted too fast, epicIn post 1340, OkaPoka wrote:im actually somewhat comfortable with inviting ceph in as well and we both mutually townread him too
okapok, hercule, unwnd, hopkirk, ceph what are the odds any of us are scum
I wouldn't mind calling that a townblock today. I wish I was in it but I get why I am not. Just trying to get some reads going.In post 1343, hercule wrote:lmao i saw this post in the pre-edit phase right as i was submitting but i submitted too fast, epicIn post 1340, OkaPoka wrote:im actually somewhat comfortable with inviting ceph in as well and we both mutually townread him too
okapok, hercule, unwnd, hopkirk, ceph what are the odds any of us are scum
lets say scum can remove two players from okapoka, hercule, unwnd, hopkirk, cephrirIn post 1342, Titus wrote:In post 1332, OkaPoka wrote:In post 1250, unwnd wrote:Maybe it's my own impatience but I've mulling over my vote on AGar and came to my own conclusion he isn't going to respond. The game has changed and so too is the way I read most players. Back in the day I'd come through their words to spot contradictions but I find scum nowadays don't really give a shit about making convincing arguments, no, it's more about the presentation. Something that makes townies go 'well, by effort and substantiation he must be town!' because people have gotten so traumatized by a red PM these days and believe scum just won't effort as much as town that it's almost bordering ridiculous. I am against this mindset because it assumes that people enjoy losing, which I'm pretty sure if you're playing any game the objective is to win.
This vote is something almost all of my team agree on. I don't really bode well with (post) (post) (post) analysis and instead giving a general description of what I see.As for what I see? I sorta let it slide but there was a moment where Hopkirk responded to me saying 'i kinda like to work list up and then down first, getting townreads'. This is fine in practice, yet he remained quite passive-aggressive. I also think that line alone is disingenuous but is playing a part of his style right now, which all seems quite excessive to me. I think Hopkirk in that instance only responded that way because it sounded good, not that he really believed it. If his MO was to look for townies and form townblocks, then what is his explanation of splintered ridicule throughout the ISO. The shift in dynamic doesn't bode with his own words. Go look at the way he silver tongues Hercule then ridicules others. This is not paraphrasing but this man really said 'don't like it when there's consequence for your actions, huh?' It's all based onproving a pointwhich is both petty and scummy.
It'd be really easy and really lazy to say 'he is being LAMISTy' but seriously that's boring and using umbrella terms like that caution back to the days where people would do things like Why me = Fry me. Mafia Jargon doesn't make someone scum guys, and I actually think scum are more prone to be lazy about their reads because it's pretty difficult to try and convince people.
@titus this is it i am speeding this up hopefully i dont interfere with your methods
@okapoka, I have no plan right now. I'm too unfocused right now and I am having trouble seeing people's agendas.
You can always try to assist me. I'll tell you if not helping.
well, go on then, share with the class!In post 1347, OkaPoka wrote:i have a picture of what unwnd scum would play like even though ive never played with unwnd scum before and its why im townreading that slot, but yeah its not exactly a scientific way of playing