TM 2021: A normal roguelike

[Sirius9121]

innocent boi likes peta +town?

this doesn't mean anything

WHY does he like him

cactus

he didnt say

[DeasVail]

a peta townread is a very easy read to have considering that peta's posting on surface level looks protown and has been one of the least controversial slots of this game.

[xRECKONERx]

ok it's time to force myself to do a readslist to start engaging with where i subconsciously have people in my mind

TOWN

DeasVail: prob my strongest townread, we're mindmelding on everything which tells me he's coming at this genuinely, put himself way out there to figure shit out.

xofelf: low content, but what's there is 100% in line with where my brain is atm. dig it. more of it pls but dig it for now.

Sirius: see earlier post. think this is indicative of town mindset rather than scum.

Datisi: earnest attempts to try and get thoughts/content out of people. only slight tinge is calling me v hectic town v town early, i think scum love to call out TvT, but everything outside of that looks like town effort

Hectic: null, slight tinges here n there on town. the way hectic backed up and listened to the team instead of tunneling me gives me town vibes. some of it might be bc he didn't want to get into a shouting match with me and lose, but i read some careful consideration in his posts. behaviorally, seems town.

Ydrasse: peppering some questions around to poke at diff thoughts/opinions, but none of it is really concrete. it's all wrapped in a sort of cute joking wrapper and that's hard for me to parse. notably voting sirius when nobody else was. in the sort of null lump pile in the middle. true null i guess for this list.

Adorable: I'm struggling w this slot tbh. it's full of constant contradictions. she gets done one second saying A is true, then in her very next post will say A is false instead. it's bizarre. that being said, i think when pushed through the flustered behavior, i'm seeing GLIMPSES of genuine understanding. idk. i dont want to subscribe to too scummy to be scum so i am def keeping my eye out here but it does feel like if adorable is scum, she's gonna let us know in big flashing neon letters eventually.

The Bulge: null, leaning slightly scum. there's not a lot to work with in a 40+ post iso. i found early questioning of me weird, asking for self meta, i'm not sure what the expected result of that was. still overall feel like probably too early to tell but slight scum lean just bc there's a lot of empty reasonless proclamations w/out much to them.

Creature: something pinged me weird ab Creature's "I have rolled town" at the start, seems unnatural. really hate how he just declares things are townie or scummy without any reasoning. esp dislike his read on me going from "not fake but scum might post this" to "reck is a surefire scumread" seemingly with no trajectory, feels like he was waiting to see if there was appetite and when there ws he committed harder. there's not much to analyze here bc despite high volume they're all zero calories.

petapan: agar is much more confident in scum here than i am, but i do think there was something weird about how peta voted sirius early under the guise of actually scumreading him and then just literally never talked about it or followed up. then the way peta inserted himself into me/dv questioning adorable felt like a combo platter of piling on mixed with LAMIST. the pokes and prods at me, ari, adorable, etc have all felt half-assed and i don't feel like have gotten us anywhere. reads all feel noncommittal at this point.

Aristophanes: boy, this is just a weird, gross kinda slot. overeager is ari's brand, but something ab the early RVS joke play here feels hollow and nongenuine. the hop onto me with hectic was awful. "reck is off" isn't anything. i asked for an elaboration and he couldn't give one, he just backpedaled on using the word "off". p much my entire adorable townread epiphany came from looking at how far ari was bending over backwards to defend her. the hop off and hop BACK onto me is gross, and it's all wrapped up in this defense of adorable's contradictory behavior. i don't believe town would have such a boner for shutting down

someone calling out contradictions

. he also has this entire narrative he's putting out there that i was ever attacking or tunneling on hectic when i literally haven't the entire game, he's just trying to use my loud personality to poison the well. it's all scummy as fuck.

beeboy: fuck meta, kill nonparticipants, it's team fucking mafia.

SCUM

[petapan]

that said,

VOTE: Adorable

Reck finally pulled me down on one side of the fence

This vote is not what I expected and is the opposite of the direction of my own read, which was heading towards Adorable-town.

i felt like reck had a good point up until adorable explained herself again and then i decided she made sense and so it wasn't a good point. pretty simple. i vacillated some because a lot of her posting felt like it could be either town or scum

have your teammates weighed in on this game at all?

iconeum has given up on me and has told me that he's treating this game as schrodinger's cat.

this feels towny lol. like i would expect if he was scum his teammates would throw him a bone and give him something to say rather than just shrugging

those seem like a bit too big words for ico <_< >_>

what, but they're not too big for sirius? lol (no offense sirius)

[petapan]

i don't think iv has good reason to townread me but i don't think it's a scum take

[DeasVail]

ok it's time to force myself to do a readslist to start engaging with where i subconsciously have people in my mind

TOWN

DeasVail: prob my strongest townread, we're mindmelding on everything which tells me he's coming at this genuinely, put himself way out there to figure shit out.

xofelf: low content, but what's there is 100% in line with where my brain is atm. dig it. more of it pls but dig it for now.

Sirius: see earlier post. think this is indicative of town mindset rather than scum.

Datisi: earnest attempts to try and get thoughts/content out of people. only slight tinge is calling me v hectic town v town early, i think scum love to call out TvT, but everything outside of that looks like town effort

Hectic: null, slight tinges here n there on town. the way hectic backed up and listened to the team instead of tunneling me gives me town vibes. some of it might be bc he didn't want to get into a shouting match with me and lose, but i read some careful consideration in his posts. behaviorally, seems town.

Ydrasse: peppering some questions around to poke at diff thoughts/opinions, but none of it is really concrete. it's all wrapped in a sort of cute joking wrapper and that's hard for me to parse. notably voting sirius when nobody else was. in the sort of null lump pile in the middle. true null i guess for this list.

Adorable: I'm struggling w this slot tbh. it's full of constant contradictions. she gets done one second saying A is true, then in her very next post will say A is false instead. it's bizarre. that being said, i think when pushed through the flustered behavior, i'm seeing GLIMPSES of genuine understanding. idk. i dont want to subscribe to too scummy to be scum so i am def keeping my eye out here but it does feel like if adorable is scum, she's gonna let us know in big flashing neon letters eventually.

The Bulge: null, leaning slightly scum. there's not a lot to work with in a 40+ post iso. i found early questioning of me weird, asking for self meta, i'm not sure what the expected result of that was. still overall feel like probably too early to tell but slight scum lean just bc there's a lot of empty reasonless proclamations w/out much to them.

Creature: something pinged me weird ab Creature's "I have rolled town" at the start, seems unnatural. really hate how he just declares things are townie or scummy without any reasoning. esp dislike his read on me going from "not fake but scum might post this" to "reck is a surefire scumread" seemingly with no trajectory, feels like he was waiting to see if there was appetite and when there ws he committed harder. there's not much to analyze here bc despite high volume they're all zero calories.

petapan: agar is much more confident in scum here than i am, but i do think there was something weird about how peta voted sirius early under the guise of actually scumreading him and then just literally never talked about it or followed up. then the way peta inserted himself into me/dv questioning adorable felt like a combo platter of piling on mixed with LAMIST. the pokes and prods at me, ari, adorable, etc have all felt half-assed and i don't feel like have gotten us anywhere. reads all feel noncommittal at this point.

Aristophanes: boy, this is just a weird, gross kinda slot. overeager is ari's brand, but something ab the early RVS joke play here feels hollow and nongenuine. the hop onto me with hectic was awful. "reck is off" isn't anything. i asked for an elaboration and he couldn't give one, he just backpedaled on using the word "off". p much my entire adorable townread epiphany came from looking at how far ari was bending over backwards to defend her. the hop off and hop BACK onto me is gross, and it's all wrapped up in this defense of adorable's contradictory behavior. i don't believe town would have such a boner for shutting down

someone calling out contradictions

. he also has this entire narrative he's putting out there that i was ever attacking or tunneling on hectic when i literally haven't the entire game, he's just trying to use my loud personality to poison the well. it's all scummy as fuck.

beeboy: fuck meta, kill nonparticipants, it's team fucking mafia.

SCUM

Ooo, your peta read is in a similar place to mine. Cool!

[DeasVail]

At some point we will need to talk about Ari though. I will come up with a spiel this afternoon on why my read on Ari has changed to town.

[petapan]

a peta townread is a very easy read to have considering that peta's posting on surface level looks protown and has been one of the least controversial slots of this game.

do u feel like scum would townread my play so far

[DeasVail]

a peta townread is a very easy read to have considering that peta's posting on surface level looks protown and has been one of the least controversial slots of this game.

do u feel like scum would townread my play so far

I think so, yes. In a game like this where there are many easy targets, someone like you who is making reasonable posts and appears to be furthering the town's agenda is not worth suspecting as scum, regardless of your alignment.

(Obviously this isn't going to apply 100% but I would be suspicious of anyone calling you town and not saying much beyond that)

[Adorable]

Sirius said innocent boy likes peta +town and is that the only town read innocent has? I have 6 players I am town reading and petapan is one of those players I'm still trying to figure out their alignment.

[petapan]

a peta townread is a very easy read to have considering that peta's posting on surface level looks protown and has been one of the least controversial slots of this game.

do u feel like scum would townread my play so far

I think so, yes. In a game like this where there are many easy targets, someone like you who is making reasonable posts and appears to be furthering the town's agenda is not worth suspecting as scum, regardless of your alignment.

(Obviously this isn't going to apply 100% but I would be suspicious of anyone calling you town and not saying much beyond that)

i've actually said very little though, my biggest concentration of words was just elaborating on why i think beeboy is scum. scum do townread me often but usually when i am posting intensively, rather than being laid back. maybe if they were trying to buddy me but he's obviously not gonna do that with a teammate read. i've had approximately 0 care to projecting towniness this game. i could just bullshit reads if i wanted to, but it doesn't actually do any good to manufacture opinions when i don't think a significant deal of what people have said is very telling at all

but anyway i don't think it's a read scum decide to give out. probably. i would like him to explain it though

[Creature]

Man, I was wondering why we were talking about PETA then just realized that it is supposed to reference a player.

[Creature]

Creature: something pinged me weird ab Creature's "I have rolled town" at the start, seems unnatural.

Nothing natural comes from this creature:

[Creature]

really hate how he just declares things are townie or scummy without any reasoning.

That's like what I always do. Sometimes it better helps me read them based on their reaction to my read.

Also I have been using quotes so if something pinged me town or scum about them, see if it pings you the same or the opposite.

[Creature]

esp dislike his read on me going from "not fake but scum might post this" to "reck is a surefire scumread" seemingly with no trajectory, feels like he was waiting to see if there was appetite and when there ws he committed harder.

You're right I already had you as scum before I even quoted your post. I already had a feeling your annoyance seemed to be more likely come from scum when I first read your posts as soon as I opened the thread while trying to study for the exam saturday. I just wanted to put stuff down linearly page by page.

[Creature]

beeboy: fuck meta, kill nonparticipants, it's team fucking mafia.

This is fine for me

[Creature]

I'll just be pretty annoyed if beeboy happens to be town and we wasted an entire dayphase

[xRECKONERx]

there is zero reason to believe my annoyance would come from scum instead of town, putting it in the scumbin is just fucking lazy bc you don't feel like doing any actual scumhunting

[Creature]

there is zero reason to believe my annoyance would come from scum instead of town

Scum can be pretty annoyed too. I remember in my last scum game I was pretty annoyed and wanted to complain about stuff I probably wouldn't complain if I were town. It's anger that is easy to fake because you feel genuinely angry and it could also get you cred from players who think anger = town.

[xofelf]

there is zero reason to believe my annoyance would come from scum instead of town

Scum can be pretty annoyed too. I remember in my last scum game I was pretty annoyed and wanted to complain about stuff I probably wouldn't complain if I were town. It's anger that is easy to fake because you feel genuinely angry and it could also get you cred from players who think anger = town.

Mate, you must not know Reck if you think that Reck being annoyed or angry is indicative of any alignment whatsoever. Dude's just hella passionate and irritable, usually justifiably. It's NAI. If he wasn't being annoyed, that would be more suspicious.

Also, working on a catchup here.

[Creature]

there is zero reason to believe my annoyance would come from scum instead of town

Scum can be pretty annoyed too. I remember in my last scum game I was pretty annoyed and wanted to complain about stuff I probably wouldn't complain if I were town. It's anger that is easy to fake because you feel genuinely angry and it could also get you cred from players who think anger = town.

Mate, you must not know Reck if you think that Reck being annoyed or angry is indicative of any alignment whatsoever. Dude's just hella passionate and irritable, usually justifiably. It's NAI. If he wasn't being annoyed, that would be more suspicious.

I'm trying to say that both alignments can feel anger but they usually feel anger about different things which can indicate their alignment.

[Creature]

Like, scum is more likely to complain about thread activity because there's too much info and they'll need extra work to filter them out to not sound TMI.

[xofelf]

Sure, scum may be more likely to complain about it. But

Reck

complains about thread activity, gimmick posters, and spam posting regularly enough outside of games that it's just his opinion on the whole thing and shouldn't be the basis for a scumread on him. It's not enough on its own. That's all I'm saying. Think about the specific person not just the alignment.

[Black Hole Defection]

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