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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:59 am

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My slot hasn't posted prior to my rep in so I'm assuming you mean unreadable, but treating as scum.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:03 am

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The early pressure on adorable is both A.) Easily read as a gauge on pushable slots (read as elimmable) and B.) An easy way to look busy early.

DV what were you looking for when you questioned adorables vote initially? Pressuring them into thinking they NEED a solid reason to throw down an rvs vote looked very strong armish.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:05 am

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In post 725, RCEnigma wrote:My slot hasn't posted prior to my rep in so I'm assuming you mean unreadable, but treating as scum.
No I think you’re scum
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:06 am

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In post 180, DeasVail wrote:I would have thought that one of the most striking things from a reads perspective would have been my push of you, yet midwaybear has no opinion on it.

This feels like panic asking a team-mate to help fake reads to look town.
Are you and midway more familiar than you/adorable are?

Also were you aware that hectic was the one that prodded for reads from their team initially?
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:07 am

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Oh, well damn I can't beat that logic.
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:11 am

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In post 209, petapan wrote:bulge townie


adorable in you said the vote wasn't based on anything, but in you said it was because of how augustus gave a fast town read. that's what people are getting on your case about. can you address this?
If you expanded on this later just point me to the post but at the time of this post what pinged town for you coming from bulge?

I don't disagree with the read.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:12 am

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In post 726, RCEnigma wrote:The early pressure on adorable is both A.) Easily read as a gauge on pushable slots (read as elimmable) and B.) An easy way to look busy early.

DV what were you looking for when you questioned adorables vote initially? Pressuring them into thinking they NEED a solid reason to throw down an rvs vote looked very strong armish.
I have talked about this a fair bit in other posts which you probably haven’t caught up to yet. is a good summary I think.

In response to your other question, it had nothing to do with familiarity. I thought that a teammate would be quite interested in making a read on the main pusher of adorable at the time

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I’m just clarifying that it is a read and not an assumption in the absence of content.

I don’t want to be rude because replacing into this slot as scum would be awful but your posting has made me more confident in the slot being scum than I was previously and I feel the need to express that.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:13 am

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I should be grouping these better but I don't think I can help it tbh.

Do we know if mafia is informed of just the roles themselves or possible modifiers as well?
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:14 am

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In post 730, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 209, petapan wrote:bulge townie


adorable in you said the vote wasn't based on anything, but in you said it was because of how augustus gave a fast town read. that's what people are getting on your case about. can you address this?
If you expanded on this later just point me to the post but at the time of this post what pinged town for you coming from bulge?

I don't disagree with the read.
i walked that read back a significant amount of time ago; in the moment his questioning seemed all right but in hindsight didn't do much
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:16 am

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VOTE: RCEnigma

I’m fine if people want to wait and see more, but I think I’ve seen enough to be comfortable with an elimination here
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:17 am

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I haven't caught up to that post yet but I'll skim it in a minute.

Is the reinforcement from me pushing on your reasoning?

I can see that sort of? Why would a partner be that interested in defending an rvs push though? It seems like a weak gotchya test.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:30 am

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If you are town being read as scum by someone, I think that a common thought soon after is, “am I being pushed by town or scum?”

The fact that mwb had comment on lots of things but not on me was concerning to me at the time
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:30 am

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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:34 am

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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:03 pm

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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:03 pm

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In post 724, DeasVail wrote:[Town]-- Aristophanes - Adorable, xRECKONERx, xofelf -- Datisi, Augustus Caesar -- The Bulge - Summer Nights, petapan - [Sirius9121] --- Creature --- RCEnigma --[Scum]

Reads update.

RCE I'm really sorry but you're looking very scum right now.
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:07 pm

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That’s my null/undecided/no idea section
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:38 pm

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In post 741, DeasVail wrote:That’s my null/undecided/no idea section
so basically you have 10 town reads, 1 null read and 1 scum read?
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:41 pm

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In post 742, Sirius9121 wrote:
In post 741, DeasVail wrote:That’s my null/undecided/no idea section
so basically you have 10 town reads, 1 null read and 1 scum read?
Creature and RCE are my scumreads. But otherwise yes
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:44 pm

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Disclaimer: All quotes were reparaphrased, recoloured and condensed. This is not a direct quote.



- reaction testing Sirius -> reasonable , something I would do because they are a very reaction-y player
- self-meta response seemed genuine and the last point seemed unnecessary to include as scum
- seems like the kind of "pinning down a weird-looking thought process to get a townread" that I would do as town. mindmelded a bit with 220 wrt Adorable.
- makes a lot of sense
- noting this down. could be slightly +scum in a vacuum bc it's less effort to not include teammates fake takes but moreso just want to see where he goes with this in the future.
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/ - feels like beeboy frustration/scum suspicion is real
- genuinely trying to sort a slot like Sirius who functionally at that point was had no more content than beeboy, you could say something similar about reck
//// - the insistence on getting the townread from me feels real, although probably well within peta's scumrange to ask this

i don't TR peta strongly but overall im getting a vibe of proactive insistent questioning, critical thinking, and actual original content. the peta I played with in 2180 had a lot of natural-looking processes which made me lol!townbin them but a lot of it was very reactionary and postury, which is a stark contrast in approach to this game. granted he is obviously a good scum player so it's clear nothing he's done is individually out of his scumrange.
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:02 pm

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In post 334, Creature wrote:
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:22 pm

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In post 744, Sirius9121 wrote:
Disclaimer: All quotes were reparaphrased, recoloured and condensed. This is not a direct quote.



- reaction testing Sirius -> reasonable , something I would do because they are a very reaction-y player
- self-meta response seemed genuine and the last point seemed unnecessary to include as scum
- seems like the kind of "pinning down a weird-looking thought process to get a townread" that I would do as town. mindmelded a bit with 220 wrt Adorable.
- makes a lot of sense
- noting this down. could be slightly +scum in a vacuum bc it's less effort to not include teammates fake takes but moreso just want to see where he goes with this in the future.
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giving obvtown vibes
/ - feels like beeboy frustration/scum suspicion is real
- genuinely trying to sort a slot like Sirius who functionally at that point was had no more content than beeboy, you could say something similar about reck
//// - the insistence on getting the townread from me feels real, although probably well within peta's scumrange to ask this

i don't TR peta strongly but overall im getting a vibe of proactive insistent questioning, critical thinking, and actual original content. the peta I played with in 2180 had a lot of natural-looking processes which made me lol!townbin them but a lot of it was very reactionary and postury, which is a stark contrast in approach to this game. granted he is obviously a good scum player so it's clear nothing he's done is individually out of his scumrange.
okay, thank you sirius, that all makes sense
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:51 pm

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DGB just gave me the green light on lynching RCE
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:52 pm

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I kinda have stuff I still have to do but at least I feel more free to play the game
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:53 pm

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In post 734, DeasVail wrote:VOTE: RCEnigma

I’m fine if people want to wait and see more, but I think I’ve seen enough to be comfortable with an elimination here
Me too, but I don't want to end up being pressured all day tomorrow and feel unable to scumhunt due to that wagon
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