TM 2021: A normal roguelike

[Augustus Caesar]

Damn so many walls it feels like I'm reading dissertation reviews

lol
The wall conversation adds to this game feeling like a drag honestly because you have to constantly look up context to keep track of what's actually going on... and I'm part of the problem. Oh no.

Let's all hyperpost from this point so that everyone can be happy.

[Augustus Caesar]

*wall conversations

Off to a good start

[Datisi]

is that why basically nobody commented on me/bulge?

[Augustus Caesar]

Probably

I'm trying to sort through it right now

[petapan]

@RCE:

realize you're focusing on short ISOs but would appreciat it if you'd make some attempt to read the people who are voting you

[RCEnigma]

Xofelf -

I don't really have a lot to glean from this iso. More questions for xofelf than commentary on play or anything alignment leaning.

Gotta say the multiposting thing is going to kill me. It just feels like noise for the sake of noise and my eyes kinda glaze over as I read it. I also can't keep track of which is which, and who they're supposed to be underneath the alt, which is making that slot so much harder to read.(I also don't remember if it was just one of the public alts hyperposting or both, so that's a bad sign)

Initially got good vibes because I was reading the Hectic posts and Hectic/Summer's back and forth and kind of checked out and *I thought* Xofelf was commenting on this but I really just misread what they were talking about. This isn't anything valuable just laying a baseline I guess.

262 - An actual hot take and for a second I considered this could be a real possibility, less so for summer bringing adorable up a lot but for Adorable largely ignoring Summer flat out. They show up in Adorables town reads later (?) I think, which lends a little more to this take. I'm not sold on it but I do want to prod xofelf more here.

Sure, scum may be more likely to complain about it. But

Reck

complains about thread activity, gimmick posters, and spam posting regularly enough outside of games that it's just his opinion on the whole thing and shouldn't be the basis for a scumread on him. It's not enough on its own. That's all I'm saying. Think about the specific person not just the alignment.

Ok but what is your read on Reck independent of his complaints?

608 - I'm going through this iso and kind of just nodding along with Hectics questioning. I guess what I would add on here is, do you believe summer would be more willing to coach adorable in thread when they could get more benefit from pt discussion?
Also in a hypothetical where adorable flips town how do you feel about summer defending adorable in that moment?

There isn't a lot of substance to the ari read but it's a gutread so that's fine I guess, or any of the reads given. But I do like the back and forth with Hectic and the willingness to concede that their premise was flawed regarding Summer instead of doubling down to fit their read.

I also hate this case on Datisi cuz I really like Datisi's posting and feel really good about him, he's one of my top townreads atm.

What changed here from your earlier null pings?

I guess that can wait for the in depth reads when that comes.
Overall as null as it gets, the adorable/summer take reads genuine and is the kind of paranoid line of thinking that I generally gravitate towards as town. Would love some real time with this slot though.

[Adorable]

Probably, through 7 pages my shortlist poe is datisi/Deasveil/Reck

That didn't answer your other question.

The push on adorable from deas felt like they were pressuring adorable into making their rvs mean something and if it didn't it was scummy. Intimidation tactics basically. That pressure was compounded by your slot and recks slot piling on.

The two thoughts just reading through were:
1.) Coordinated shading (mostly because adorable looked like a vulnerable slot after Deas' line of questioning tripping them up)
B.) An opportunity to make the adorable slot a viable elim if nothing else opened itself up.

That would point to Datisi/reck as more likely scum than deas in that scenario but not by much if that makes sense.

Also I hadn't thought about it at the time but I don't really know how quickly the thread was progressing at the time so it might not have all been happening as fast as it played out in my head.

After looking at the VC on my rep in that didn't really line up, there is scum on my wagon and I'd bet multiple scum at that. Deas wasn't on my wagon when I made that statement, you weren't either so I figured I might have made a wrong assessment there.

I'm not able to tell if you're all caught up or not and I see you said Datisi/Reck are more likely scum not by much. I was scum reading Datisi and Reck earlier and I later on started to think they are town and I have them on my town read. Since you said you bet there is multiple scum on your wagon who are you suspecting are the multiple scum on your wagon?

[RCEnigma]

@rce, i see, thanks. i'm a bit annoyed (?) that you keep calling me scum for that one thing when there's nothing else in your read there (as far as i can tell?) but i don't think it's ai. has your team weighed in on this game in any way?

@Datisi: When you take ages to write a post, but people wouldn't be able to tell, do you ever admit to it, and as town, scum, or both?

i've truthfully admitted/mentioned it as both alignments. though it's definitely not an ~original~ thought for scum!me to do, as scum i do it because i know town!me would do it there.

I'm not though. I dropped that take and kind of walked it back after considering the game state.

Beeboy wasn't around to talk about the game, menalque did call hectic townglue but I don't have solid reads yet myself so I didn't ask for more.

[petapan]

UNVOTE:

idk about my read but dont need to keep him at E-1 while he's putting in work

[Datisi]

I'm not though. I dropped that take and kind of walked it back after considering the game state.

Beeboy wasn't around to talk about the game, menalque did call hectic townglue but I don't have solid reads yet myself so I didn't ask for more.

you dropped the team take, but yeah i guess, my bad.

mena didn't comment anything about my slot?

[RCEnigma]

@RCE:

realize you're focusing on short ISOs but would appreciat it if you'd make some attempt to read the people who are voting you

Probably a better method.

[petapan]

started new job today, energy tanks low, coming in to say i find RCE's catchup supremely whelming which doesn't give me a good reason to move my vote since if i did, it'd be to ari, not someone many people have shown interest in

even though i said something similar with my vote, this post was pingy to me

[xRECKONERx]

what's pingy to you about it exactly, what does that even mean

[Creature]

Kinda scared I now have close to zero solid townreads

What changed and made you stop townreading people? Specifics, my dragon.

I realized my reasons to townread were pretty weak

[petapan]

what's pingy to you about it exactly, what does that even mean

the tossed off "just gonna stick with my vote" reasoning, feels like you are committed to a vote there no matter what rather than making a real evaluation when your original vote was simply for beeboy not playing; i'd expect given your commentary on the slot you'd have wanted to see them play before forming an opinion

[xRECKONERx]

i mean ill certainly give it a reevaluation later when i catch up, but the slot was doing nothing, then what little was done was underwhelming, not exactly screaming at me to move my vote elsewhere

but i also didnt process he was at e1 and id rather have time to catch up and all that so

UNVOTE

until i can plug back in

[petapan]

i put him there for pressure then took it off when he seemed unfazed and kept doing his thing

have a bad habit to go long post=town even though i know its not true

[RCEnigma]

I'm not though. I dropped that take and kind of walked it back after considering the game state.

Beeboy wasn't around to talk about the game, menalque did call hectic townglue but I don't have solid reads yet myself so I didn't ask for more.

you dropped the team take, but yeah i guess, my bad.

mena didn't comment anything about my slot?

Just that he disagreed on the team I floated. I can ask.

[RCEnigma]

I'm not able to tell if you're all caught up or not and I see you said Datisi/Reck are more likely scum not by much. I was scum reading Datisi and Reck earlier and I later on started to think they are town and I have them on my town read. Since you said you bet there is multiple scum on your wagon who are you suspecting are the multiple scum on your wagon?

When I'm read up I'll have a better idea but as far as I know the rest of the votes are sheeping peta on his meta-check.

I don't know beeboy or his meta but I know peta is off base here. Beeboy just might not have had time for mafia.

[petapan]

I'm not able to tell if you're all caught up or not and I see you said Datisi/Reck are more likely scum not by much. I was scum reading Datisi and Reck earlier and I later on started to think they are town and I have them on my town read. Since you said you bet there is multiple scum on your wagon who are you suspecting are the multiple scum on your wagon?

When I'm read up I'll have a better idea but as far as I know the rest of the votes are sheeping peta on his meta-check.

I don't know beeboy or his meta but I know peta is off base here. Beeboy just might not have had time for mafia.

hectic and ydrasse were, adorable and reck were just because he wasn't posting, dv is because he didn't like your posts

[Datisi]

I'm not though. I dropped that take and kind of walked it back after considering the game state.

Beeboy wasn't around to talk about the game, menalque did call hectic townglue but I don't have solid reads yet myself so I didn't ask for more.

you dropped the team take, but yeah i guess, my bad.

mena didn't comment anything about my slot?

Just that he disagreed on the team I floated. I can ask.

please do.

[DeasVail]

I am only going to be peripherally available for the next few hours but my decision to vote RCE and comfort with eliminating him was based on believing his posts upon replace-in to be much more indicative of scum than of town, particularly the topics that RCE was deciding to focus on felt much more like scum trying to create content than actually forming an understanding of the gamestate and developing reads (e.g. fixation on my push of Adorable). This is something that I’ll be able to go more in-depth on later when I have the time and am at my computer. And I’ll also be considering any posts RCE has made in the meantime and sharing my thoughts on them.

[Sirius9121]

sirius may have become one of my stronger townleans in this game in the meantime which is kinda sad lmao.

@Summer Nights

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How much has your team, especially Infinity, been engaging with your game?

[petapan]

I am only going to be peripherally available for the next few hours but my decision to vote RCE and comfort with eliminating him was based on believing his posts upon replace-in to be much more indicative of scum than of town, particularly the topics that RCE was deciding to focus on felt much more like scum trying to create content than actually forming an understanding of the gamestate and developing reads (e.g. fixation on my push of Adorable). This is something that I’ll be able to go more in-depth on later when I have the time and am at my computer. And I’ll also be considering any posts RCE has made in the meantime and sharing my thoughts on them.

fwiw hercule agrees with your assessment altho his opinion was just that he thought you were townie in the first 7 pages

[Creature]

Grgh