Open 85 - Jester Mafia (Game over) before 630

Crazy · Post Post #675 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:26 am

forbiddanlight wrote:

Cr3t1n is a likely jester target and he he's not even scummy, just a nuisance.
Ok, so, you are telling me that stuff any player worth their salt would get on ANYONE ELSE for can be excused in cretin? Unfounded suspicions, relative lurking, no reasonings whatsoever, basically NO SCUMHUNTING?

No, nobody else could be excused for it. But cr3t1n is an idiot; it's his meta. And unfortunately, it isn't fair, but I'd rather catch scum than worry if the game was "fair."

The Jester · Post Post #676 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:26 am

We've risked a jester lynch two times now, you kind of have to in this set-up.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #677 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:27 am

I think you are giving him far too much of a free pass. Even if it's his meta, it's entirely possible he entered that other game for the sole purpose of furthering it. Townies don't need to do that.

Xtoxm · Post Post #678 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:31 am

Well, why are the rest of us not worried? It is mafia who have to worry about lynching the Jester. Crazy's reaction does look very much like mafia to me. What do you guys think?

forbiddanlight · Post Post #679 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:33 am

Well, why are the rest of us not worried? It is mafia who have to worry about lynching the Jester. Crazy's reaction does look very much like mafia to me. What do you guys think?

I'm worried as hell we might be lynching the jester. It's just that I'd be a hypocrite to accuse the majority of mafiascum of lacking the guts to do anything conclusive and then shy away from a possible mafia due to jester fear.

Crazy · Post Post #680 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:34 am

Xtoxm wrote:
Well, why are the rest of us not worried? It is mafia who have to worry about lynching the Jester. Crazy's reaction does look very much like mafia to me. What do you guys think?

Umm, what the? If the Jester is lynched, EVERYONE loses.

The Jester wrote:We've risked a jester lynch two times now, you kind of have to in this set-up.

Not if we lynch you or forbiddan or Rishi.

forbiddan wrote:I think you are giving him far too much of a free pass. Even if it's his meta, it's entirely possible he entered that other game for the sole purpose of furthering it. Townies don't need to do that.

Forbiddan, earlier you were arguing that this whole nonsense with cr3t1n was a null-tell. Now that there's a wagon for him you give it your full support? What's up with that?

Xtoxm · Post Post #681 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:35 am

Yes, but the only reason I can think of for this reaction from Crazy, is that he is mafia with Raver, and with me and Forbiddan not looking much like the Jester, him basically knowing Cretin is mafia. Anyone think that makes sense?

Xtoxm · Post Post #682 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:36 am

Cretin is Jester*

Crazy · Post Post #683 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:39 am

Xtoxm wrote:
Yes, but the only reason I can think of for this reaction from Crazy, is that he is mafia with Raver, and with me and Forbiddan not looking much like the Jester, him basically knowing Cretin is mafia. Anyone think that makes sense?

No. I am town. And I'm not going to risk this whole game by lynching someone who is likely to be the jester and isn't even scummy in the first bit.

Crazy · Post Post #684 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:39 am

I'd be equally opposed to lynching Raver, btw.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #685 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:40 am

Forbiddan, earlier you were arguing that this whole nonsense with cr3t1n was a null-tell. Now that there's a wagon for him you give it your full support? What's up with that?

I was at first. I also argued we can't let him live til lylo. I'm making good on that.

Xtoxm · Post Post #686 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:40 am

If Crazy was town, there is NO reason for him not to hammer Cretin right now.

Unvote

While I wait

Crazy · Post Post #687 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:41 am

Xtoxm wrote:
If Crazy was town, there is NO reason for him not to hammer Cretin right now.

Unvote

While I wait

You sure you're not still trying to act jestery? What do you mean I have no reason to not hammer Cr3t1n?

Xtoxm · Post Post #688 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:42 am

forbiddanlight wrote:

Forbiddan, earlier you were arguing that this whole nonsense with cr3t1n was a null-tell. Now that there's a wagon for him you give it your full support? What's up with that?
I was at first. I also argued we can't let him live til lylo. I'm making good on that.

This makes sense. If Cretin is town, he's basically going to screw the town over in lylo. The only reason for not lynching him today is him being Jester. If Crazy insists on defending him I may start pushing for a Crazy lynch, becasue I really can't see this from a town point of view.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #689 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:42 am

You sure you're not still trying to act jestery? What do you mean I have no reason to not hammer Cr3t1n?

This. If he DOES honestly believe cretin is the jester then of course he wouldn't hammer. Second, there might be discussion left, such as this thought provoking probe into crazy's alignment.

Xtoxm · Post Post #690 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:43 am

Crazy wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
If Crazy was town, there is NO reason for him not to hammer Cretin right now.

Unvote

While I wait
You sure you're not still trying to act jestery? What do you mean I have no reason to not hammer Cr3t1n?

I am quite certain. If you are town, you should have no qualm with voting for Cretin right now.

Crazy · Post Post #691 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:44 am

Xtoxm wrote:
Crazy wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
If Crazy was town, there is NO reason for him not to hammer Cretin right now.

Unvote

While I wait
You sure you're not still trying to act jestery? What do you mean I have no reason to not hammer Cr3t1n?

I am quite certain. If you are town, you should have no qualm with voting for Cretin right now.

*blink* Why? Was there something I missed in the rules that said the town doesn't have to worry about lynching the jester?

Xtoxm · Post Post #692 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:47 am

What do people think of this: Lynch Crazy, who's recent actions make him practically confirmed mafia in my eyes, and if Cretin makes it through the night, lynch him. That way, if mafia is worried about losing to Cretin-Jester, they would have to kill him.

Crazy · Post Post #693 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:48 am

Xtoxm, please tell me how me not wanting to lynch some random person you pulled off the street makes me obvscum?

Xtoxm · Post Post #694 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:49 am

Crazy wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Crazy wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
If Crazy was town, there is NO reason for him not to hammer Cretin right now.

Unvote

While I wait
You sure you're not still trying to act jestery? What do you mean I have no reason to not hammer Cr3t1n?

I am quite certain. If you are town, you should have no qualm with voting for Cretin right now.
*blink* Why? Was there something I missed in the rules that said the town doesn't have to worry about lynching the jester?

I repeat, if you were town, you would vote for Cretin.

Crazy · Post Post #695 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:50 am

Xtoxm wrote:
Crazy wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Crazy wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
If Crazy was town, there is NO reason for him not to hammer Cretin right now.

Unvote

While I wait
You sure you're not still trying to act jestery? What do you mean I have no reason to not hammer Cr3t1n?

I am quite certain. If you are town, you should have no qualm with voting for Cretin right now.
*blink* Why? Was there something I missed in the rules that said the town doesn't have to worry about lynching the jester?

I repeat, if you were town, you would vote for Cretin.

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Xtoxm · Post Post #696 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:51 am

Forbiddan and TJ: I would like your opinions here.

Xtoxm · Post Post #697 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:52 am

Rishi too. Rishi's gotta be town...

forbiddanlight · Post Post #698 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:53 am

I don't like it. You've leapt from lynch to lynch all day,trying to railroad us in some direction of your choosing. It's chaotic and you might be scum trying to take advantage of it. I liked TK as scum, and I like cretin as scum, but I'm not nearly as sure I see Crazy scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #699 (ISO) » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:54 am

forbiddanlight wrote:I don't like it. You've leapt from lynch to lynch all day,trying to railroad us in some direction of your choosing. It's chaotic and you might be scum trying to take advantage of it. I liked TK as scum, and I like cretin as scum, but I'm not nearly as sure I see Crazy scum.

Crazy has been suspected by just about everyone but me and you today, if I was scum I could have got him lynched easily. How do explain explain his recent actions if not for him being scum?