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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:26 am

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In post 886, Sirius9121 wrote:
In post 828, RCEnigma wrote: Sirius/Xof were just low posters, being time strapped the idea was to get through the shorter isos first.
im not a 'low poster'

my posts are just low quality
I think you were just first in the player list.
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:27 am

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In post 899, petapan wrote:hey man we're at 2 days to deadline we need a claim
I'm a n1 vig
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:32 am

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UNVOTE:

ok 0 reason to ever vote out that role

smells of buying time but is 100% provable so he gets a chance to prove it

have thoughts on where i want to go but need time to compose them
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:34 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:36 am

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I think just being claimed is -utility for town. Also, thoughts on the setup crumbing role probably isn't the way to go, results get leeway. I also didn't get an answer about the scum knowing modifiers question.
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:37 am

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that's a really dumb thought by me actually, what good does buying 1 night by fakeclaiming vig get you if you just get outed the next day anyway lol

i have setup related thoughts that i'd been meaning to get to as well but was waiting until after a claim
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:43 am

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In post 904, RCEnigma wrote:I also didn't get an answer about the scum knowing modifiers question.
I mean, you were asking the players in the game who have access to the same set-up related information that you do.
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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:00 am

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In post 759, RCEnigma wrote:Not gonna lie it's rough forcing myself to put out content if I'm the defacto elim and the reads won't be heard much next day phase anyway.
open question to the table: does a PR, specifically a n1 vig, ever say this line?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:04 am

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(i think it just might be a "no".)
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:09 am

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In post 906, DeasVail wrote:
In post 904, RCEnigma wrote:I also didn't get an answer about the scum knowing modifiers question.
I mean, you were asking the players in the game who have access to the same set-up related information that you do.
It's a thought that crossed my mind when seeing the setup situation, I don't know if anyone posed a similar question to the mod or not before I repped in.
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:10 am

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okay, was keeping this read somewhere in the back pocket but i hashed this one out with the hivemind a little bit earlier today so i'm more comfortable outing it

the feeling is that summer nights came into the game eagerly fluffing and RPing with hectic to, like, find footing but just hasn't done much after. she has outed a few townreads but they feel very shallow in their reasoning and static in their movement, i don't get a sense they're being updated and re-evaluated as the thread moves as much. she's lacking in any insight. like saying she could "go for are" because he hasn't "done too much" is not good reasoning, but also a little soft, tentative, like it's reaching out to explore whether it's an acceptable push. also, the paranoia toward datisi in just feels fake, it doesn't feel truly as much like she's really fearful of being fooled by datisi again as much as she's
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paranoid of him to seem town and maybe pocket him a little bit. i don't know hw to explain that in the sense that she talks about being afraid of him in a fairly over the top way but doesn't really question him or critically examine what he's saying.

there's also the thing where she makes gestures toward generating content from beeboy's replacement in and but she has not really engaged with RCE at all (and has instead fallen into prod range)

i held back in the feeling she mught just be starting slow and she'd be more readable as the game went on but given the claim i want to vote here

VOTE: summer nights
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:11 am

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In post 907, Datisi wrote:
In post 759, RCEnigma wrote:Not gonna lie it's rough forcing myself to put out content if I'm the defacto elim and the reads won't be heard much next day phase anyway.
open question to the table: does a PR, specifically a n1 vig, ever say this line?
Ngl as a player I would be fine elimming through a n1 vig claim.

Not in this case but, ya know ;)
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:14 am

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rce, why did you make that part of if you are a n1 vig?

also, why didn't you bother answering the above in your previous post?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:19 am

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Which part? The unheard reads part of it? I've been in enough games to know town is still going to trust their own judgement over the reads of dead town. That's just how the game goes.
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:20 am

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the part where you're implying that you will be executed today, i.e. dead on day two. that's not a mindset of a power role that can save themselves from the yeet with a claim.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:25 am

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Like I said I would elim through a claim like that if I'm on the outside of it. I've done worse to better looking claims.
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:28 am

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Like the last time I claimed vig I was elimmed day 1 and that was with FL being able to corroborate I was 100% a vig. Different kind of setup but still.
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:46 am

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People I don't want to elim today:

Sirius, Aristophanes, Creature, xofelf, Adorable, xRECKONERx, RCEnigma (there's no real point in an elimination here right now to be honest, regardless of read on the slot)

The rest are potential options in my mind.

Summer Nights is the slot that I feel most indifferent about right now. Pushing there is kind of low value because she's not even really here, but it also feels like the most comfortable place for a vote. And peta voting there is eerie because it was the first thought in my mind when I unvoted as well and a lot of the reasons he has put forward are similar to what I have been thinking.

VOTE: Summer Nights
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:13 pm

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sorry, i’ve been really disengaged/burned out on playing mafia lately and haven’t given this a lot of attention (nor has my team), i just got home but if there’s anything anyone wants me to respond to specifically/answer/etc i can do tonight. i guess it’s kinda shitty to just expect that i can be like.. left to reorient myself after someone flipped but that’s what my mindset was lately . i’ll try to get out some stuff for you guys
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:26 pm

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I mean, that's just a scumclaim I think.

- yeah, exactly

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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:30 pm

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In post 905, petapan wrote:that's a really dumb thought by me actually, what good does buying 1 night by fakeclaiming vig get you if you just get outed the next day anyway lol

i have setup related thoughts that i'd been meaning to get to as well but was waiting until after a claim
Gets a much more uninformed launch today which is probably a mislaunch

instead of a much more informed launch tomorrow with more time which is more likely to be another scum launch

I refuse to believe that RCE happens to be an extremely confirmable town role, and on night 1 no less, and beeboy played like that while having this fairly stress-free and easy to play town role, while RCE said he was demotivated to play because he'll be launched anyway while having a role like that

I think this is just scum buying a day and we still launch this

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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:35 pm

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You don't
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to give him a day just because it's technically optimal play. Additionally, any kind of roleblocking role isn't thaaat unlikely from scum so even in the slim chance he is town, there's a good chance he gets framed and we have to launch him tomorrow anyway

BUT, this is pretty obviously a scumclaim and not the doomed scumslot having a coincidentally easily confirmable town role

Let's just get the scumflip please, people

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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:40 pm

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In post 918, Summer Nights wrote:sorry, i’ve been really disengaged/burned out on playing mafia lately and haven’t given this a lot of attention (nor has my team), i just got home but if there’s anything anyone wants me to respond to specifically/answer/etc i can do tonight. i guess it’s kinda shitty to just expect that i can be like.. left to reorient myself after someone flipped but that’s what my mindset was lately . i’ll try to get out some stuff for you guys
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:43 pm

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I don't think it's that unlikely to be rbed or even have a scum doc/jk and thought about fake claiming at least the n1 part of my role but that likely gets me miselimmed anyway.

I don't think my elim is more informed than any other elim in the pl especially considering every other slot has been around since game start. But I'd also elim my slot through the claim so it's unfortunate.
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:44 pm

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