In post 3345, MariaR wrote:In a game like this where it's team mafia? A) I would be a lot more active and vocal. Would not have allowed my partner to die Day 1 if I could help it by pushing other wagons hard
2) Never kill SPF here ever
I am so far out of my range it's insane rn
- you're having health issues though? so i don't think that lack of activity is meaningful?
- and maybe you say your partner's death as inevitable? like you're just ruling out one of many worlds where you're scum there
- i saw that argument come from scum quite a lot, so i'd be quite curious in seeing what makes you say that
In post 3294, Gypyx wrote:maria, you keep saying you're out of your scumrange but like, what's your scumrange?
In a game like this where it's team mafia? A) I would be a lot more active and vocal. Would not have allowed my partner to die Day 1 if I could help it by pushing other wagons hard
2) Never kill SPF here
ever
I am so far out of my range it's insane rn
In post 3295, Gamma Emerald wrote:her scumrange is p much infinite
any time she says she's "outside of her scumrange" it's bs
but that doesn't mean she's scum yet
Not true, scum is just easy to play so it's easy to win. It doesn't make my scum range infinite. Just because I
can
do a lot of things as scum doesn't mean I would.
You instigated a wagon against me which had the effect of taking early pressure of Spring Breeze. Vanishing conveniently when it looked like my wagon could materialise into an elimination. And then you declared a Wall War on me to try and bury the hatchet without following up on it. Though you did become ill, so we'll give you some benefit of the doubt here. But you did come back to try and bail out Spring Breeze asking why we were voting out obv town. Then you must have realised it would look really bad for you if you opportunistically came back after being gone for most of the game just to defend someone who was not escaping elim thanks to Pink Ball's case. You couldn't defend SB harder because PB sent her to the shadow realm. In PB's words, there was no coming back from that once he made that post.
I don't know if scum!MariaR would never kill Spring Breeze here. I'll let someone else respond to that point. But for me I will use Occam's Razor here and explain it as MariaR knowing that SPF wouldn't let her go tomorrow.
In post 3345, MariaR wrote:In a game like this where it's team mafia? A) I would be a lot more active and vocal. Would not have allowed my partner to die Day 1 if I could help it by pushing other wagons hard
2) Never kill SPF here ever
I am so far out of my range it's insane rn
- you're having health issues though? so i don't think that lack of activity is meaningful?
- and maybe you say your partner's death as inevitable? like you're just ruling out one of many worlds where you're scum there
- i saw that argument come from scum quite a lot, so i'd be quite curious in seeing what makes you say that
1) True I was having health issues at the main point of SB's wagon but unless you think my partner is Zaiden/Jingle I would've pushed that a lot harder
2) Considering the way it started? No, not at all. The case wasn't that impressive to me.
Sure scum can make this argument I'm not saying they wouldn't. But if people are putting so much respect on my scum game and still thinking they'd catch me this easily it's like???? You can't have your cake and eat it too. This is why I've basically stopped playing mafia on this site for that exact reason.
I bet Maria is scum this game
~Firebringer
Na Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~
Charloux
MariaR goes for the uwu owo tsundere-dere look but you never know if she has a knife behind her back.~
In post 3294, Gypyx wrote:maria, you keep saying you're out of your scumrange but like, what's your scumrange?
In a game like this where it's team mafia? A) I would be a lot more active and vocal. Would not have allowed my partner to die Day 1 if I could help it by pushing other wagons hard
2) Never kill SPF here
ever
I am so far out of my range it's insane rn
In post 3295, Gamma Emerald wrote:her scumrange is p much infinite
any time she says she's "outside of her scumrange" it's bs
but that doesn't mean she's scum yet
Not true, scum is just easy to play so it's easy to win. It doesn't make my scum range infinite. Just because I
can
do a lot of things as scum doesn't mean I would.
You instigated a wagon against me which had the effect of taking early pressure of Spring Breeze. Vanishing conveniently when it looked like my wagon could materialise into an elimination. And then you declared a Wall War on me to try and bury the hatchet without following up on it. Though you did become ill, so we'll give you some benefit of the doubt here. But you did come back to try and bail out Spring Breeze asking why we were voting out obv town. Then you must have realised it would look really bad for you if you opportunistically came back after being gone for most of the game just to defend someone who was not escaping elim thanks to Pink Ball's case. You couldn't defend SB harder because PB sent her to the shadow realm. In PB's words, there was no coming back from that once he made that post.
pedit: Fuck you right Cheet I'll get right on that VOTE: Cheet
I don't know if scum!MariaR would never kill Spring Breeze here. I'll let someone else respond to that point. But for me I will use Occam's Razor here and explain it as MariaR knowing that SPF wouldn't let her go tomorrow.
I still have my old wall on you saved in my notes if you're really that interested in reading it but I don't think that solves much in this exact standpoint of the game. In fact, it kinda just takes away from everything more than anything else since I want the elim to be in 1/3 people. Also to say my wagon on you took pressure off Spring Breeze would be wrong since I started it and the pressure came after I believe? Also, that's rather nitpicky to suggest I only wagoned you to help my partner when the early pressure wasn't much to begin with.
I was sick, came back to people telling me in my PT Spring was obv town and made that post. Saw she was at L-1 and was like 'lol I can rest more? Bye!' Why does me as a wolf try to bail out a partner at L-1 instead of just going with the flow? Obviously what I did makes me look worse but you never consider the 'why'
I bet Maria is scum this game
~Firebringer
Na Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~
Charloux
MariaR goes for the uwu owo tsundere-dere look but you never know if she has a knife behind her back.~
In post 3294, Gypyx wrote:maria, you keep saying you're out of your scumrange but like, what's your scumrange?
In a game like this where it's team mafia? A) I would be a lot more active and vocal. Would not have allowed my partner to die Day 1 if I could help it by pushing other wagons hard
2) Never kill SPF here
ever
I am so far out of my range it's insane rn
In post 3295, Gamma Emerald wrote:her scumrange is p much infinite
any time she says she's "outside of her scumrange" it's bs
but that doesn't mean she's scum yet
Not true, scum is just easy to play so it's easy to win. It doesn't make my scum range infinite. Just because I
can
do a lot of things as scum doesn't mean I would.
You instigated a wagon against me which had the effect of taking early pressure of Spring Breeze. Vanishing conveniently when it looked like my wagon could materialise into an elimination. And then you declared a Wall War on me to try and bury the hatchet without following up on it. Though you did become ill, so we'll give you some benefit of the doubt here. But you did come back to try and bail out Spring Breeze asking why we were voting out obv town. Then you must have realised it would look really bad for you if you opportunistically came back after being gone for most of the game just to defend someone who was not escaping elim thanks to Pink Ball's case. You couldn't defend SB harder because PB sent her to the shadow realm. In PB's words, there was no coming back from that once he made that post.
pedit: Fuck you right Cheet I'll get right on that VOTE: Cheet
I don't know if scum!MariaR would never kill Spring Breeze here. I'll let someone else respond to that point. But for me I will use Occam's Razor here and explain it as MariaR knowing that SPF wouldn't let her go tomorrow.
I still have my old wall on you saved in my notes if you're really that interested in reading it but I don't think that solves much in this exact standpoint of the game. In fact, it kinda just takes away from everything more than anything else since I want the elim to be in 1/3 people. Also to say my wagon on you took pressure off Spring Breeze would be wrong since I started it and the pressure came after I believe? Also, that's rather nitpicky to suggest I only wagoned you to help my partner when the early pressure wasn't much to begin with.
I was sick, came back to people telling me in my PT Spring was obv town and made that post. Saw she was at L-1 and was like 'lol I can rest more? Bye!' Why does me as a wolf try to bail out a partner at L-1 instead of just going with the flow? Obviously what I did makes me look worse but you never consider the 'why'
I could feel it. There was scrutiny on me for being third vote on Spring Breeze but your vote and reasoning was like the oil that set it alight and the votes piled onto me. To me it felt like the ignition point capitalising on the scrutiny at the time that was on me. You also conveniently vanished and didn't offer further input once my wagon was taking off and only returned to shade me with an attempted wall war once the wagon fizzled out.
In post 3358, MariaR wrote:@Zaiden From Mena: Are you intentionally dense or if it’s just incidental
Stuff does go over my head a lot. I often struggle to pick up on sarcasm or non serious quips. I can't claim to be as smart as the rest of my team since I'm more of the resident weeb. That's just how I am really.
In post 3362, MariaR wrote:'Conveniently vanished' is an assumption that you have no backing or proof to make such a claim of.
If it was once you conveniently vanished, fair enough. But it was more than once. And all occurrences of vanishing were exceedingly convenient from my point of view. That's the thing.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
I think given that Maria's saying her absence has been partially related to being sick, I think it's probably better to keep that kind of reasoning in your back pocket.
Anytime you phrase questioning in terms of someone's ability to be here and call the validity of that into question it kind of goes beyond the scope of the game and becomes a little ethically wonky.
My general rule is to trust that people aren't going to lie about their absences in terms of IRL stuff and to instead try to read them based on their play when they are here.
In post 3366, Cheetory6 wrote:I think given that Maria's saying her absence has been partially related to being sick, I think it's probably better to keep that kind of reasoning in your back pocket.
Anytime you phrase questioning in terms of someone's ability to be here and call the validity of that into question it kind of goes beyond the scope of the game and becomes a little ethically wonky.
My general rule is to trust that people aren't going to lie about their absences in terms of IRL stuff and to instead try to read them based on their play when they are here.
Okay, that's fair enough. I think you make a fair point about believing people about IRL stuff and respecting the integrity of the game.
@MariaR, apologies. But then I wanted to ask. Do tell why you pushed me originally, have your thoughts changed and why, and what are your opinions on the current game state and who you think SB's scum partners are?
In post 3349, Cheetory6 wrote:pink ball can your secret read please be jake please please please
please
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please please?
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please?
plrety plrste/?
It's not, but I don't want to disappoint you 'cause you're adorable
In post 3347, MariaR wrote:I'd get into more detail on how the idea of range is a pretty weird topic to begin with but that's not the point. Mena wants to elim Norra because the push on PB is just...really bad.
I don't think I wanna follow that line but he wants PB to know
Tell Mena that we had the same discussion with Auro and xtoxm
