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Hi I'm drinking and not going to be great at this right now but also I hate meta reads when I don't know people so I'll vote the shizzz out of you if you try to give me a meta read also whats up

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Is that a meta vote?

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who is scum, salsabil?

Isn’t it very early to ask this question?

it's never too early to start catching scum

Do you find any?

Slight scum read here. Your smirk and sarcasm isn't endearing, it's deflective. Reads as passive scum.

I'm seeing rvs is stupid don't do it from scum npom and a lol rvs what a dumb idea am I right? Here

Booo meta is lame.

pedit: salsa, i think daisy is scum, care to help me wagon her?

No dear, it's not enough for me to vote

OopsieDaisy

because you think she is a scum.

VOTE: Elements

Your gut feeling doesn't make any sense to me.

Oopsie/Salsabil connection

Daisy come and town-spew

Nah, maybe later if I'm feeling up to it

Bad take

Also for the record this interaction isn't scum indicative for El they're fine for now

Trying to deflect attention. No one was concerned with El being fine or not. You bring this up as if you are in a 1v1 with them when it's not even close to being the case.

I actually can't understand you specially your conversation with

OopsieDaisy

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That's fair. Daisy and I play mafia over discord weekly and as town she's chaotic and bubbly, whereas as scum she's much more serious and solvey.

Oh so you just aren't going to be able to contribute anything other then meta reads on Daisy with that much interaction. Bummer.

I've heard enough. Nice catch Elements.

VOTE: OopsieDaisy

Yeah unlike the first two votes on me this one I don't like.

UNVOTE: Prince Zuko
VOTE: NPOM

Ha You were just waiting for someone to vote you so you could finally give a read. All that talk about, "I want others opinions first," was just so you could deflect.

Being defensive is a scum trait because scum are more interested in their self preservation than town because there are generally 3 times more town than scum in the game.

Daisy was apathetic before she was defensive. I've also been town defensive far more often then scum defensive because I roll town more then I roll scum. Basically if you call me out, my gut reaction is to be defensive so maybe this take isn't a great take.

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Sure I'll vote Daisy.

VOTE: OopsiDaisy

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We've moved on...

If this is to me, nah fam I'm catching up.

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You have been defending Oopsie more then she has defended herself. If she flips scum, I'm going to naturally assume you are a partner.

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deathnote's hatred of meta feels perfomative.

Wait do I defend myself against this? Hold on...


I have something somewhere let me see.




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Ahh yes.

Meta leads to preemptive decisions about a persons play style resulting in great RVS material but terrible wagons.

But mostly, I've played enough games for people to meta me and be wrong but "Because he did it before herp derp" I couldn't fight it. I will be taking any meta reads with a grain of salt.

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Any sort of information is helpful to town and meta is information.

incorrect. Scum is also playing this game and gives false information all the time. This information can easily be used to white knight bad wagons and cause town to slip up. It's a towns duty to discern bad information from good information but to assume that anything a person bings to the table to inform the town is helpful is bad play.

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Almost all games will have good wagons and bad wagons.

Nothing to do with my point on Meta tho.

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Any sort of information is helpful to town and meta is information.

incorrect. Scum is also playing this game and gives false information all the time. This information can easily be used to white knight bad wagons and cause town to slip up. It's a towns duty to discern bad information from good information but to assume that anything a person bings to the table to inform the town is helpful is bad play.

It's town's job to diffentiate bad information from good information. So bad information isn't

inherently

anti-town.

But it can be.

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Point is that meta is an easily abused thing. I have to take Elements word on meta play of Daisy or go read through countless pages of games that they are both in to confirm what element is saying is true and even then, people grow and learn from past mistakes. Meta is not a guaranteed answer to someones play style and can easily be misinterpreted. boy oh boy do scum like to misinterpret things for their benefit.

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VOTE: cook

this is where I'm suppose to ask "Why cook"

but I can do this too.

VOTE: cook

Daisy is still a great vote, lots of information to be gained there but cook comes off as a player saying things just to be present and I expect them to vanish for a while so instead of letting them, I'm down to put pressure on.

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Voting scum is better then voting maybescum

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You aren't going to pull people into a cook vote though unless you give reasoning.

So what are you waiting for?

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No no no, I already had a scum read there.

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I am my OWN person ok.

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I've given more reasoning then you have tbf

But also you voting cook randomly screams "pay attention to this" and should be called out.

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STOP

Lowkey thought someone was getting day vigged

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I think Shig thinks he has a lot more sway than he does.

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Anyone voting Shig today is wasting their time. There is no reason to vote him out day 1 right now. Doesn't matter if he is faking or being loosey goosey eating a sandwhich, he is a target for scum and will never survive as scum faking a white knight.

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cool you can have all the credit when it is revealed he lying. Pretty easy call out tho when he has claimed so many different roles

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Lets get some more votes on Cook. Everyone but Salsa who has an incessant need to cross examine every vote this early in the game.

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No because Shig is active and will continue to be so while Cook is being limited with their responses and not really putting up a fight. If Cook says, "no for real, I'm cop." Then I'll 100% back off but something tells me that isn't going to happen.

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VOTE: OopsieDaisy

I'll just go back to this then.

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VOTE: Cook


Let's hit actual scum here

Nah I'd rather not. And I probably don't have to say this but I will anyways, don't investigate each other. Cook is acting like you could both be town and maybe thats true but if it is, then one of you is dead for sure.

I'd rather you come back with "I was blocked."

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Also scum calling out a wagon for being town seems pretty on par for scum. Especially scum that is next on the chopping block.

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Maybe. You def seem like a troll too tho so like... that argument is hard to validate.

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fairly certain 154 was aimed at salsa, and not me.

oopsie, is there a reason why you like... don't contribute at all until after someone starts looking at your direction?

That it was

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No because Shig is active and will continue to be so while Cook is being limited with their responses and not really putting up a fight. If Cook says, "no for real, I'm cop." Then I'll 100% back off but something tells me that isn't going to happen.

Wtf did you expect to happen after posting this

Are... you just wanting me to list the options?

Scum Cook claims Cop again to try and save himself.
Scum Cook panics and doesn't claim cop thinking thats what got him in this situation to begin with.
Town Cook claims Cop because is Cop.
Town Cook says he was trolling because that's what it looked like Shig did.

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Daisy is actually just a coin toss on being town/scum. Early game was apathetic town but quickly turned into defensive scum. Whatever Daisy flips gives me some strong scum reads like Salsa being scum with her or Element being scum against her.

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You are vastly overthinking this.

I had a scum read on cook, saw a person who I feel is town vote cook, took advantage of that and pushed the vote and then jumped off once it was confirmed they were indeed cop.

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That vote is unreasonable for day 1. We have two cop claims and they should live at least one day.

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Cook clarify your read on ranny please since you have them listed twice.

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We should bury this hatchet now.

In no way should a cop claim be killed today.

We gain so much more information by letting them live a round because at this point, both Shig/Cook will die eventually unless we have a protective role and scum can't find a way around it. Killing Cook will likely just mean Shig is dead after and I'd rather not make that sacrifice on the hopes we have some sort of doc.

Or alternatively Shig is the baddie and manages to get cop voted out day 1 and while we gain a dead maf, we gain no useful info from cop actions. Simply knowing that there is a roleblocker would be useful info enough unless I'm crazy and we know the setup somehow.

Killing a cop is a terrible move and just hurts the information we could gain as a town. Leave it to mafia to have to deal with the cop.

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Yo I hear you, cook is by far the more likely scum. His play is pretty inconsistent which could also just mean he doesn't have a solid grasp on forum mafia. I'm all for him dying if that wasn't obvious but you can't kill him. He is a scapegoat right now and as long as he is alive, that means Shig gets to live a bit longer too.

Cook honestly seems like he wants to die too... like who forgets their cc? And votes randomly... idk, cook probably is just caught scum but I stand by that you don't want to eliminate the cop cc day 1 and instead give mafia a chance to fudge up.

Meanwhile... ummm Ranny was your cop claim also a joke?

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so you aren't cop?

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stop annoying me


anyways i dont like deathnote and salsa

vote deathnote and stop trying to lynch a cop claim day 1 thanks

Oooooo we're half way thereeee

OOOOOO

Livin on a PRAYER!

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Cook(4) - Luca Blight, Elements, Shigaraki, Rannygazoo

if cook is town there is 100% scum in this group, just noting it now
which is a problem because i'm townlean/read on everyone here sigh

Is it a problem? You seem pretty confident that Cook is a baddie so your reads are solid right?

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Hot Take: most everyone is much worse at mafia then they portray themselves to be but if you have enough confidence, it doesn't matter. You just force town to do what you want until you win.

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that isn't to say you won't make good plays. I'm miserable at this game which is why I hardly ever play it anymore but I've noticed a trend that it's better to be loud then right.

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i will be faking a guilty tomorrow then regardless of my result

Wouldn't matter if you do this or not. We will likely vote Cook tomorrow unless he dies at night.

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Why would cook die at night?

Cook could be town and has claimed cop. Leave him alive if you want, I don't mind getting free results.

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Hi I'm here. Just sorta busy this week and the few times I've checked the thread to read up, I didn't feel very compelled.

My main issue is that the counter wagon was an inactive and it sucks the first thing they do when they come back is just vote the other wagon.

I don't really care about the people voting me and honestly don't feel very threatened yet. I've been keeping track on who is there though and will speak up if I feel I need to? Idk, bad takes all around and lots of people just giving reads with no real bases on it. Wake me up when the cop claims are spamming useless bile.

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^should say "aren't spamming useless bile."

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bro I have scumhunted more then half the player base already soooooooo

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What do you mean already? You're not doing me a favour this isnt a homework assignment, no quota its an ongoing process

Then what is your complaint exactly? It can't be that I'm not scumhunting. I'm being reactionary? Well this post isn't helping my case then

You aren't going to vote me out this round but if you want to argue about my gameplay, we can do this. I love talking about me.

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Dednotu you're playing like shit, but that kind of shit comes from a town perspective so good job you did well replying to me

uhhh sure.

One persons shit play is another persons town I guess.

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avatar is not an anime

VOTE: Saudade

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VOTE: Oopsie

Before I forget.

I'm staying on Oopsie for now because SoS is a fairly null read for me. If it comes down to it, sure I'll vote out the borderline inactive player.

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Wow they actually killed Shig. Good job dude...

Cook give us those results.

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You are acting as if Cook has flipped scum. but he hasn't... in fact, he is more likely to be actual town cop right now then not with Shig only flipping VT and not opposing Cop.

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Basically Ranny, your coaching case only works if we are scum together but we aren't. We are town together.

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Yeah I'm doing a bit of re-reading myself. Particularly on those who jumped on Cook and those that have been on Oopsie.

Also wow... Shig why were you so convinced Cook was scum when you weren't even a cop. Part of me is hoping Cook isn't a cop and that we have an actual PR somewhere getting results and building them up. Then Shig sorta played scum a bit. If there is another cop that manages to get a guilty, I would certainly come out if it wasn't obvious that you should.

I'm also not sure we should be clearing Datisi as much as we are. Yeah I liked the early game questioning and pushing, it was very pro town... but ultimately that slot manages to get off of wagons at opportune times. I don't want to make any hard accusations without doing my ISO research but yeah... just something going through my head right now.

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Oh and I don't really want to mess with Oopsie this round. Sure last round would have been a great vote but I think there is plenty of info with that last wagon/shigs death that we can find scum or push a more interesting inactive like Zuko. I really really don't like just voting out inactive slots though.

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VOTE: cook

i'm happy with my vote on cook atm, i'm just noting that oopsiedaisy is highly likely to be scum too.

UNVOTE:

ok i know what i said literally 3 posts ago but i have a very bad feeling about lolhammers so yeet.

UNVOTE:

i hate myself for this vote/unvote hopping but i'm about to go sleep and i do not want to have to keep thinking whether (in case he is *actually* town) scum will jump on this opportunity to yeet him and also end the day early and i need to sleep well for tomorrow so there.

cook is literally fucking openwolfing but town sometimes openwolfs and maybe scum will do our job for us

VOTE: npom

when in doubt

sheep luca blight

VOTE: zuko

Hmmmm so I picked out some votes of Datisi's and just by reading the first few votes, you can probably already see what the problem is as they call themselves out on it. There is some vote hoping that isn't a big deal but the lack of commitment and cautiousness to that final hammer was the sign of someone who is playing around what wagon to be on. I think ScumDatisi would be concerned with appearance and try to place themselves on the right wagon as opposed to actually scum hunting and when you look at it, there are no real "ah ha" moments from Datisi.

It's all just questions with not a ton of follow up.

The cook vote was the moment I said, "Datisi is town." But jumping on and off the wagon hurt that obv town moment to me as someone who knows Cook could actually be cop but is playing so piss poor a misvote could happen.

Is Datisi scum? Maybe... This probably isn't worth my time right now but I wanted to get this out there before we just vote out an inactive or something.

I'll have to catch up on Saudy, I don't know what the case is there.

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Cook who did you target?

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Cook
OopsieDaisy
Elements
Prince Zuko

Son of a Shephard

All scum are in this.

If I had to guess, it's Cook, Son of a Shephard, and Elements, but least sure on the Elements one.

This was Shig's last scum read. We know SoS is wrong.

There is a good chance Cook could be caught scum but it's hard to validate voting him out just yet. We likely have at least one investigation role and if it comes down to it and all we have is cook cop then there is no way we vote him off.

These reads are just... really rough though. 2 inactives, a cop cc that he knew wasn't even a cc as he wasn't a cop, and the pairing of Elements/Oopsie who started the game off meta reading each other.

I could see a world where Cook and one of Oopsie/Elements are scum together but the third is probably not just Zuko.


The fact that Shig got killed is pretty telling too imo. Who would go into the night thinking he was actually a PR of some sort? Probably someone new who didn't know better. Like would someone like... Luca do that? Nah no way right? Maybe kill him just because he is loud but he didn't really sway everyone that easily. I think this kill comes from players like Cook/Oopsie/NPOM/Zuko/Salsa but I don't know everyone well enough to be sure.

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The more I think of it, I don't think the Shig NK makes sense if both Shig and Cook are Town.

Shig was clearly BS'ing and baiting the NK, whereas Cook doubled-down on his claim, and was the cc which are generally seen to be more reliable,

and

Cook was more TR than Shig.

I agree. Cook is looking more and more likely to be scum but is also still our only claimed PR so voting there feels wrong.

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Shig no doesn't make sense at all really. Points to an inexperienced scum team.

Well i throw your name in there because you were constantly fighting against him creating town blocks and being a cop but then also throwing around the "town block" as a way to vote people off.

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VOTE: Cook

Even if there is a scum RB, I don't understand why they wouldn't kill Cook and block Shig in this instance, which would then probably lead to Shig's elim on D2.

I disagree. Cook's claim didn't look that genuine either and has shown himself to be trolly even being accused of being a jester which isn't possible in this game.

I would kill Shig over Cook who is the easier misvote.

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The more I think of it, I don't think the Shig NK makes sense if both Shig and Cook are Town.

Shig was clearly BS'ing and baiting the NK, whereas Cook doubled-down on his claim, and was the cc which are generally seen to be more reliable,

and

Cook was more TR than Shig.

I agree. Cook is looking more and more likely to be scum but is also still our only claimed PR so voting there feels wrong.

I've just finished a game (NPOM was in it too) where obvious scum claimed a PR and survived the day, and then claimed a guilty on someone the following day and managed to get them eliminated on the back of it. I'm not repeating the same mistake.

But thats not happening here is it? We are already at the point where Cook could have faked a guilty somewhere.

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Cook wasn't in the townbloc. Shig made the townbloc and there was no way he would put Cook in it.

Point being, if Cook goes today, I won't cry about it. There is a solid chance he is a baddy but the right play is to leave him alone and hunt for his buddies on the off chance he really is the cop. Scum aren't going to kill him now if everyone keeps doubting the claimed cop which could work out for us.

I don't know what is a standard setup for town for normals like this.

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Also I will hands down vote out cook before voting out his guilty tomorrow.

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Also I will hands down vote out cook before voting out his guilty tomorrow.

but what if i get an innocent

cool

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I would vote Oopsie but agree, there are better people to vote right now.

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Speaking of... I should probably place a vote somewhere.........

VOTE: Saudade

EDIT: But Datisi is watching this thread like a hawk.

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wow this vote feels dirty. Those last two posts are examples of why I hadn't voted yet.

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Salsa, how many games have you played?

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Having Salsa/Cook yell at you to claim isn't much of a threat right now. Salsa is trying and I can see that. I do think she is town but I think she is a bit lost trying to figure out what a town person is suppose to do.

If someone shows their intent to hammer, Saudade will claim but Dats has moved off the wagon so the threat is less real right now.

Maybe I should just cave and vote out Cook... >.>

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Saudade isn't having a great reaction to the votes imo. Only real reason I voted.

Looking back, the content is kinda sparse too but that lines up with him saying he doesn't care about the game so idk... it's sort of a null tell. I can see town not caring about this game because I'm having a hard time myself putting effort into it. But I could also see Scum admitting that while pressure is on to give an excuse for their lack of content or commitment.

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This isn't the right time

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

If you're so confident I'm scum you wanna vote me now rather than letting me marinate into an easy Day 3/4 wagon for yourself?

I'm starting to think El (and I suppose maybe DM's) hesitation to vote me is that they know I'm an easy wagon that they don't need to push right now cause they can do so once the player count is thinned out, and I'm not sure I'm a huge fan of that.

Not at all what is happening here. You were declared scum from early day 1 by elements and while he hasn't pushed it very hard, you have always been an option. You would have been the best day 1 elimin in my opinion and voting out SoS was a waste for us and I didn't really gain any info from an inactive slot going.

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TownOopsie gets pushed by ScumElements that early for sure. He came out swinging.

Salsa chainsawed some attacks on Oopsie that weren't even aggressive attacks. Just people looking for an early push but she was not for it. ScumOopsie reveals a ScumSalsa.

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Salsa is trying and I can see that. I do think she is town but I think she is a bit lost trying to figure out what a town person is suppose to do.

ScumOopsie reveals a ScumSalsa.

Spoiler:

Pick one dude!

Both? You are still likely town but not guaranteed and if Oopsie flips scum, then I will heavily consider you scum as well.

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NPOM who would be Saudade's partners if he flips scum?

Actually Rannygazoo, same question.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you care about this game right now Saudade? lol

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I don't get your point about my Cook vote being a pressure vote.

I was pushing the Cook elim, and no-one seems interested in joining. Now I'm just waiting for something from the Zuko slot before I decide what I want to do next.

I mean I'm not trusting

Cook

either, and he most probably will be blocked forever I guess. I just don't understand why people are not interested to pressure him and actually buying that he is a

town cop

. And he votes one of my scumreads

Saudade

, which I also don't understand that is he bussing one of the partners or

Saudade

actually a townie here?

I find this post scummy. In the situation I'm imagining, ScumSalsa plans on leaving TownCook alive because there is a ton of pressure from everyone to vote him off. When we don't do it, ScumSalsa is confused at the easy misvote.

Cook votes Saudade maybe because he is a town cop. It's too early in the game to vote him off as a claimed PR.

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NPOM who would be Saudade's partners if he flips scum?

Actually Rannygazoo, same question.

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Not really giving me much to work with tbh.

I asked if you cared about the game when we first started. You obviously don't care much about the game now but that could just be because people are putting pressure on you.

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Not caring about the game doesn't scream town to me even if the votes are mostly unexplained. You flip reads on a dime which isn't scummy per say but it makes it hard to follow your thoughts or agree with you. Like... whats your opinion on cook? Is he scum coasting with a cop claim? If so, when do we vote him out? Who are his partners because there are several people with varying opinions about him.

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yeah you aren't paying attention. I'm on the boat of "cook should live." Instead of assuming what I'm "trying" to do, maybe we could just talk about it?

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Nothing for me huh?

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Ok I may of chortled a little at that question.

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Shig is back from the dead.

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Phone posting to say i live in Austin and currently have no power. My apartment is 43 degrees so probably not posting again until things get resolved.

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Power came back this morning at 1 am. 3 days of cold and no water.

I'll be back soon assuming power doesn't cut it again. The game will be a welcome distraction.

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Do you think cook knew he wouldn't get a night 1 result?

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I think the cook green flip means there is a scum blocking role.

He flipped cop n2 n3

Which I assume means he can only cop those nights. I think scum knew that thanks to the "informed" role so we should be looking at people who are acting on such knowledge. People who don't seem concerned about a cop claim day one. Daisy is a great vote today.

I also doubt there is a "blocking" role if the cop only has two shots available.

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I haven't read much of today but I do get a sense of urgency from Datsi I haven't seen all game which is weird. Did something happen that I'm not aware of?

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Ok but being "pissed off" after a rather successful scum vote isn't a good look. I should read what the issue is but I'm not sure why you are stressed about what NPOM is saying. Yeah I think NPOM is town but in no way is he leading votes right now. Where you surprised to see Saud flip mafia?

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im claiming cop btw.

Cause i don't think im getting night killed.

i wish to revise my claim:

i am a cop who also works part time as a doctor.

What was your result? Or who did you protect if the doctor thing was legit.

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Salsa... wow...

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@npom.

Datisi 9
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1=scum 10=town

Datisi - Very knee jerky pov that doesn't ping town.

explain your progression from here to there.

@datisi: I'm sure.

Do you think town cook claims day 1? Do you think town cook believes shigs cop claim?

what the fuck was this about?

i thought 1081 was in response to the last part of my 1079, and that you were urging me to vote with you on cook.

This is your first post of the day... seems pretty angry to me and fresh off the heels of a successful elimination. It's like you gathered your thoughts over night and in came in ready to defend yourself which isn't a great look.

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@mods - can we get a clarification on that role? You putting n2 n3 must mean they can only use their action n2 and n3 right?

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@mods - can we get a clarification on that role? You putting n2 n3 must mean they can only use their action n2 and n3 right?

why do we need mad clarification here. what else could it possibly mean

It's a me thing. I misinterpret things often and it never hurts to ask for clarification. Is this somehow a scummy move to you? Weird to be bothered by it.

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Salsa... wow...

What!?

Oh you didn't notice we asked firebringer the same question at the same time?

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so was there a result to checking NPOM? Or you just protected him?

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See you (FB) are trying to play this game like cook did as a troll town who thought he was untouchable because of his role. I don't know what is up with that mentality but it's coming off as more scummy then troll. Are you going to answer any questions sincerely? Because sarcasm doesn't translate well to online play. Trust me... I know from experience.

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Nah. It's hard to scum hunt when your answers can't be taken seriously. We can do this the official way though.

VOTE: firebringer

I want to know your role and what actions you took since you want to be coy about it.

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I just feel like you aren't taking me seriously as if you slot wasn't already in a poor position and we don't have any credibility to push you. Your slot could have easily been the elimination yesterday but replacement and all that, figured it's fair to give you a fighting chance. Plus we found scum anyways.

So why not just... be town? Do town things?

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VOTE: firebringer

Sounds like he is setting up to retract his cop claim.

VOTE: NPOM

I fake claimed cop our first game together.

Like... lol this is your first vote of the game. And it's reactionary to someone calling out your fake cop claim.

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Aight. Well we don't have to talk I suppose. Scum wouldn't want to cooperate much anyways. I just didn't think you would be so blatant about it.

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Nice try.

Who did you target both nights? No results for either night?

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Nice try is in reference to claiming he got hammered.

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Ohhh kay. Thanks for the claim either way. Now who did you target because I want to know if you could not know your complete role. I know thats not standard but I'm just curious. Cook seemed surprise he got no result night 1 but surely he knows what his whole role is.

So if you got no result night 1, is it because you might not be able to get results? So who did you target night 1 and night 2.

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I don't care about your meta. I care that you replaced into a scum slot and want to withhold information.

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You just aren't going to answer my question about who you targeted are you?

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So you are either scum or just... bitter town?

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I'd be willing to stake my life on Datsi being town. I'm down to vote daisy but waiting till I'm not phone posting to do it.

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I'd be willing to stake my life on Datsi being town.

is the joke here that there is no player in this game named "datsi"

Would it surprise you if I said Datsi is how I've been pronouncing your name in my head this whole time?

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My ONLY apprehension on voting Oopsie is that Salsa flipped jailkeep and normally, I would expect jailkeep to target who they assume is mafia or someone they feel needed protection. In this case, no one alive really needs protection so Salsa should have picked who they feel is scummy and based off the votes yesterday, that seems to be Oopsie. If only one mafia is left, Salsa would have prevented the kill jailing Oopsie.

It's a loose argument and I don't know if I ever really followed Salsa's line of logic this game but it's what I would have done.

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Maybe Luca? You (Ranny) could potentially be scum as well. I like your detailed explanation of Daisy but you hop off FB for a moment due to the claim maybe expecting others to do the same since that's what happened with Cook and when the pressure stays, you get annoyed and return your vote asking for a hammer. I do think you are town but scum could do a similar move with their backs against the wall here.

Luca had a good presence during the shig vote but has since dropped in town status for me.

NPOM/Datisi are the only two I don't see me ever voting. Elements is a hard push too but not impossible.

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Well he knew he was a cop so it was pretty easy to claim cop so maybe he just didn't read enough to know that in this rare instance, being a cop isn't where you want to be.

I can't predict what salsa did, I can only predict what I would expect the average townie to do. Would you not have targeted Oopsie last night as a jailkeep?

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See ya... I would expect several players here to do it but Salsa also is a newer player so it isn't a for sure thing.

No, NPOM isn't scum and I don't see how NPOM would ever push the people he pushes as scum. If he is scum, then hot damn good work and maybe we will catch him in lylo lol. I just don't see a reason to vote that slot right now.

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Good game Luca.

I said this enough in the Dead Thread but I knew if you were scum, town as going to lose. The rest of town was getting flustered under pressure.

Town misplayed the Oopsie vote and shouldn't have rushed that (Turned out Salsa did Jailkeep Oopsie which would have cleared him).

I tracked Fire to Salsa which is why that was a somewhat easy push.

Town did a good job overall putting pressure on Saude. So way to go overall but yeah... the weird cop crap probably didn't help in the long run. Nice try Datisi.

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Oh there also was a small asterisk in that Salsa jailed Cook the night he died

Apparently that didn't get communicated properly.

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Gimme that mafia thread