TM 2021: A normal roguelike

[Sirius9121]

damn it paratisi why are you starting a wagon on me

VOTE: paratisi / datisi

[Sirius9121]

VOTE: sirius

the coveted 4th vote

wagoning people

VOTE: bulge boi
bad

[Sirius9121]

paratisi the great

give me your wisdom





how do I make an anarchy symbol using desmos

[Sirius9121]

I love this game it's so slow

[Sirius9121]

hi sirius is iv calling me scum yet?

iv isnt


gypyx is

[Sirius9121]

my other delusional theory this game so far has to do with an early sirius wagon trying to get him flustered and pushed on

I'm easily the worst

player here

so they're trying

to make a wagon on me

NO U

[Sirius9121]

when I'm town I look scummy

when I'm scum i look scummy

HELL YEAH

[Sirius9121]

sirius what were you doing Saturday afternoon from ~2:30 to 3:30?

sleeping probably

[Sirius9121]

oh sirius actually drew scum this game

VOTE: sirius

why

[Sirius9121]

?

why are you asking *me* a maths question?

its art

[Sirius9121]

sirius what were you doing Saturday afternoon from ~2:30 to 3:30?

sleeping probably

why did you change votes between your first two posts?

it's just RVs

why aren't I allowed to change my RVs

[Sirius9121]

wait who's galaxii

[Sirius9121]

@sirius i'm still waiting for the elaboration on gypyx's read on me ok cool

there isnt any

[Sirius9121]

scuse me isis?

[Sirius9121]

[unv][/unv] lemme go read

[Sirius9121]

UNVOTE:

[Sirius9121]

Apparently I'm getting limmed! exciting!

[Sirius9121]

@cactus hair

He says Bulge Guy is pingy.
he thinks 'why did you switch votes' is a scummy question to be asked in RVS and its looking for a way to murder me

[Sirius9121]

@cactus hair

[color=light green]he says u know its too early to ask him for reads[/b]

[Sirius9121]

thank you for your graciousness i guess?

[Sirius9121]

liiiike please god give me something to work with @sirius so i can sort you

[Sirius9121]

liiiike please god give me something to work with @sirius so i can sort you

tbh tho
just ask me anything and i'll respond

[Sirius9121]

Also, Sirius, something AI would be really nice from you.
Thx.

hi I'll post later after 30mins feel free to ask me questions

[Sirius9121]

Also, Sirius, something AI would be really nice from you.
Thx.

hi I'll post later after 30mins feel free to ask me questions

Oh wow you have 22 posts??

Uhm, you seem to be most familiar with Datisi , what is your read there? It might help me anyway.

What is your read on Ydrasse as well?

And do you still think you're the worst player here? If that's the case, why would we be pressuring you for content?

Datisi: Scum!tisi is very (煩躁)... irratic? while town!tisi is much more relaxed and me seeing this game makes me feel his town vibe more than scum vibe?
gut tho...
Ydrasse (summer nights)'s posts do NOT look like Mini Normal 2175 (from memory) where they were like 30-40% shitposting single liners. (the posts here are averagely longer?) The overall feeling of the posts are different of N2175 where they were town. However, their posts (mostly) make sense, and their posting intensity is higher and longer which should theorotically be townie?

Yeah... I've never even finished a mini normal before (facepalm)
If that's the case, someone is trying to make me break down like what i did in Newbie 2022 and, like, break apart?


or maybe some scum are trying to make me do something wrong and just push me?


pedit: ahh

ppedit: let me speak

pppedit: stop

[Sirius9121]

Doesn't it take ages to go round harvesting all that with just a scythe? Get a harvester

how are you supposed to make this with a harvester

[Sirius9121]

beeboy has not been participating which is suspicious. I am currently leaning town on Hectic, DV, Reckoner, Aristophanes, Datisi, and Summer. I have 6 players I am town reading which makes me think scum are somewhere hidden in the players I am not town reading.

not to ally with beeboy but why can't he be on an uninformed V/LA?

[Sirius9121]

as a 80%-flaker i believe activity levels are not AI

[Sirius9121]

My

mentors

teammates are also suggesting a no speedyeet as they would prefer a replacement on beeboy

[Sirius9121]

inactivity, or activity otherwise, is really non-indicative of scum or town.

As an example,

in my only scum game on MS

, notscience, who was

the second highest poster

, was scum.

[Sirius9121]

above also treats as meta for sorting me since everyone is having trouble sorting me

although i doubt it helps but eh

[Sirius9121]

They'll be doing all the town and scumhunting for me while I spectate from the gallows. I'm not actually sure what the word gallows means but I'm hoping it's some kind of regal throne or some kind of nice spectating platform. Would be kinda embarrassing if it means something completely different LOL.

its literally some thing for the hanging of criminals.

aha ive caught a criminal

[Sirius9121]

This

points

is a gallow.

[Sirius9121]

very simple half read list:

artistic boi: very stressed as scum. more prone to theatre. so far so quiet. +town
pink fluff: giant sheep? 128 was some extent to a read BUT only mentions dats/hect/xof/ari/creature? to some extent is always sheeping hect/summer? +scum
bulge boi: really asking other ppl many questions but no... readlists themselves?
heccticc: uh... assuming they are starrling seems very different from starrling from 2175? many reads which im not like 100% sure is a good thing due to town mafia

[Sirius9121]

Wait am I artistic boi or is that Datisi?

thats dats

hes drawn to memory after all :p

[Sirius9121]

XD Well said!

I hate to pry but also I'm going to.

That's a really short half a readslist and I don't get why you didn't respond to like, anything but did respond to the gallows thing.

Have you read the game? Is that really all you have for us?

i have to say im progressively reading / always busy so ill do the humans seperately

[Sirius9121]

very simple half read list:

artistic boi: very stressed as scum. more prone to theatre. so far so quiet. +town
pink fluff: giant sheep? 128 was some extent to a read BUT only mentions dats/hect/xof/ari/creature? to some extent is always sheeping hect/summer? +scum
bulge boi: really asking other ppl many questions but no... readlists themselves?
heccticc: uh... assuming they are starrling seems very different from starrling from 2175? many reads which im not like 100% sure is a good thing due to town mafia

why those users in particular, just wondering?

its dats who asked me the question to make a readlist in particular + some players who in memory are a bit more scummier?

[Sirius9121]

@Isis

please prod bulge boi

[Sirius9121]

have your teammates weighed in on this game at all?

iconeum has given up on me and has told me that he's treating this game as schrodinger's cat.

[Sirius9121]

most of the time i don't bother. i just did it that one game.

do you really think i have time to meta search you if i already seen ur past experience xD

[Sirius9121]

innocent boi likes peta +town?

[Sirius9121]

innocent boi likes peta +town?

this doesn't mean anything

WHY does he like him

cactus

he didnt say

[Sirius9121]

@cactus head

ico just told you to bite him because u said that schrodinger's cat is a big word for dragon boi.

[Sirius9121]

*hi*

[Sirius9121]

sirius did you ever get an answer from iv on why he's reading me as town

i suddenly realize whatever answer i get probably won't be that interesting but i feel obligated to ask until i do

our timezones are different

[Sirius9121]

he hasnt answered

[Sirius9121]

pink fluff and bulge boi tbh?

[Sirius9121]

how sure are you that i'm scum in this game, bulge?

atm you are my second from the bottom

who s first

[Sirius9121]

no one asked me any questions

[Sirius9121]

pink fluff and bulge boi tbh?

Why? And I also want to know is petapan the only town read Innocent has and what's the reasoning for the town read.

like it's literally the first post before your last come on

pink fluff: (by red): may be faking newb style
(by giraffe) has a surface level read on them being town
(by me) readlist is a bit focused on specific players easier to push

bulge: teammates have not commented on this. seems to be asking other people questions to push them down a cliff without really reading much

peta: IV still hasnt answered,

but IV has some thoughts. Should I share>

[Sirius9121]

heccticc probtown

idk how to read heccticc

reck is berserking +town

reck i agree +town

oh sirius actually drew scum this game

VOTE: sirius

Looks like I mindmelded with petapan

unnatural

creature potential scum

i like creature wagon

given creature push bee

could be bus for hopeless scum bee

Disclaimer: All quotes were reparaphrased, recoloured and condensed. This is not a direct quote.

[Sirius9121]

What is the meaning of life and our existence?

[Sirius9121]

[Town]-- Aristophanes - Adorable, xRECKONERx, xofelf -- Datisi, Augustus Caesar -- The Bulge - Summer Nights, petapan - [Sirius9121] --- Creature --- RCEnigma --[Scum]

Reads update.

RCE I'm really sorry but you're looking very scum right now.

Also why is my name in [ ]

[Sirius9121]

That’s my null/undecided/no idea section

so basically you have 10 town reads, 1 null read and 1 scum read?

[Sirius9121]

Disclaimer: All quotes were reparaphrased, recoloured and condensed. This is not a direct quote.

81 - reaction testing Sirius -> reasonable , something I would do because they are a very reaction-y player
83 - self-meta response seemed genuine and the last point seemed unnecessary to include as scum
209-220 seems like the kind of "pinning down a weird-looking thought process to get a townread" that I would do as town. mindmelded a bit with 220 wrt Adorable.
222-228 makes a lot of sense
310 - noting this down. could be slightly +scum in a vacuum bc it's less effort to not include teammates fake takes but moreso just want to see where he goes with this in the future.
side note

aristophanes

giving obvtown vibes
457/487 - feels like beeboy frustration/scum suspicion is real
568 - genuinely trying to sort a slot like Sirius who functionally at that point was had no more content than beeboy, you could say something similar about reck
579/582/585/617/686 - the insistence on getting the townread from me feels real, although probably well within peta's scumrange to ask this

i don't TR peta strongly but overall im getting a vibe of proactive insistent questioning, critical thinking, and actual original content. the peta I played with in 2180 had a lot of natural-looking processes which made me lol!townbin them but a lot of it was very reactionary and postury, which is a stark contrast in approach to this game. granted he is obviously a good scum player so it's clear nothing he's done is individually out of his scumrange.

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a

b

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sirius may have become one of my stronger townleans in this game in the meantime which is kinda sad lmao.

@Summer Nights

-
How much has your team, especially Infinity, been engaging with your game?

[Sirius9121]

petapan - 95
Augustus Caesar - 91
Datisi - 84
Creature - 74
The Bulge - 65
xRECKONERx - 63
Aristophanes - 57
Sirius9121 - 56
DeasVail - 55
Summer Nights - 49
Adorable - 48
RCEnigma - 21
xofelf - 8

wait how tf am i the 8th highest poster

[Sirius9121]

I'll answer you later, I'm listening to crab rave

Happy birthday btw?

[Sirius9121]

Oh, is it january 26th for you already?

It's 9:42am 26/1/2021.

[Sirius9121]

Someone posted Crab Rave into SGB thread.
I got addicted and can't stop

even if i close the music

it rings in my ears

[Sirius9121]

ive always been addicted to heavy metal

[Sirius9121]

damn it paratisi why are you starting a wagon on me

VOTE: paratisi / datisi

iss this my entrance

[Sirius9121]

pagetop

[Sirius9121]

Sirius/Xof were just low posters, being time strapped the idea was to get through the shorter isos first.

im not a 'low poster'

my posts are just low quality

[Sirius9121]

good morning

[Sirius9121]

its so cute

[Sirius9121]

puny humans who are not voting, get on a wagon and condemn others to hell

I mean, he did claim a PR...

[Sirius9121]

gonna "ask i team on their thoughts" before i hammer/don't hammer

[Sirius9121]

it's the real hectic

sorry you had to find out this way

i can fix you......

go back to summernight

[Sirius9121]

[Town]-- Aristophanes - Adorable, xRECKONERx, xofelf -- petapan, Sirius9121 - Augustus Caesar -- Creature, Datisi, The Bulge - [NULL] -- Summer Nights ---- ???RCEnigma??? -- [Scum]

why has my rating kinda skyrocketed

[Sirius9121]

have your teammates weighed in yet?

they re sleeping

[Sirius9121]

ico has been awake for the last 7 hours at least

only gypyx and IV is minding my game

ico is treating me and my game as schrodingers cat remember

[Sirius9121]

assuming scum has setup info, scumteam easily find a perfect scumclaim.
we should give rce a kill target and if the target isn't dead kill him anyway on d2

go unvote

fools

[Sirius9121]

bcus n1 vig isn't site meta and also town would expect a double kill at night which isn't plausible for normal scumteam

[Sirius9121]

those are ico's quick thoughts and iv and gypyx also talked a lot about it, they'd rather not elim RC but aren't opposed to wagon going through

[Sirius9121]

like why put it as “assuming” there when we know they’re informed like you’re trying to be ~unsure

I just copied the text given

[Sirius9121]

these are my teammates and not mine

in the 18x4=72 ppl playing TM2021, j should be in the worst 5 or smth

[Sirius9121]

good evening

[Sirius9121]

assuming scum has setup info, scumteam easily find a perfect scumclaim.
we should give rce a kill target and if the target isn't dead kill him anyway on d2

go unvote

fools

because it was a fully logical guess by my teammates

[Sirius9121]

random boop

[Sirius9121]

on retrospect there's nothing except gutreads on D1

[Sirius9121]

Staarling

aka Hectic,

Is Drawn from Memory town or scum leaning and why

[Sirius9121]

like theres nothing except gutreads for d1 isnt it

everything is just ur own feelings and thats kinda 'gUtReAd'

[Sirius9121]

good afternoon

[Sirius9121]

ydrasse why dont u alternate accounts between summer/ydrasse
that will be fun

[Sirius9121]

i love how i dont exist

[Sirius9121]

good morning

[Sirius9121]

good morning

Hi Sirius, how are you?

Eating.

[Sirius9121]

I'm still not able to understand the town read on Sirius and most of his posts have been fluff.

maybe I'm a bulletproof cop that everyone else has noticed a crumb except for you

BTW the feeling is mutual. I don't really tr you and don't know why others are doing so.

[Sirius9121]

(‘-‘)

[Sirius9121]

the issue i have w your progression on sirius is that it feels low-effort and over the course of the game, it's like...

i get you've been not here a lot and i'm expecting too much but of all the places to have efforts sirius definitely isn't the one to sort for me and the impression i got when reading your posts about sirius has been that you've wanted to keep him as an option but not one you like... believe in? does that make sense?

Sure, I can get how you might see that from my posts I suppose. They've always felt to me like a slot that will need an Elim and I don't see a way around it. Eventually they'll have to eat one because their current activity is unreadable to me and will never lead to an NK as town. Literally they just need to eat a yeet at some point and IDGAF when.

*shrugs*

what's the actual chance you think sirius flips scum though?

0

[Sirius9121]

Sirius is probtown because he's having fun with his fluff and wasn't phased by peta's confident push. Scum!Sirius from my memory shuts downs as scum and is afraid to say anything at all

[Sirius9121]

guys I think this meltdown from Ydrasse is really scummy. feels like caught for the wrong reasons

true.

[Sirius9121]

no.


what i meant is 'Adorable's readlists are focused on several people who they are planning to push later in game because they are easy to push.'


which includes me ig

[Sirius9121]

*observes*

[Sirius9121]

please get a votecount here ISIS

[Sirius9121]

also, @hectic: i love you. marry me.

this is not a dating site

[Sirius9121]

Why are you all reading Sirius as town?

Or a more simple reason would be because I simply am town.

[Sirius9121]

sirius for the love of fuck, it's 20 hours to deadline, vote

Who?

[Sirius9121]

do you scumread anyone????

my preference is deas obviously

Ok
Deal

VOTE: nO oNe AhaHaHAh

Uh I’ll vote tomorrow morning

There’s 20 whole hours

[Sirius9121]

Besides it’s 10PM and I have a huge headache.

I don’t want to mess things up.

[Sirius9121]

Hectic what do you think of this post 1559

I only gave a list of players I town read on day 1. I asked him what readlists is he talking about and he ignored me.

Yeah, that doesn't really make sense and I don't know what Sirius is getting at.

@Sirius:

Can you show where you think Puff is talking about players she's planning to push later?

@Sirius

Why aren't you answering this, Sirius?

its 1am

im looking at derivatives and limits

I have a headache

I hate orange

remind me tomorrow

[Sirius9121]

creature/hectic/me/xof/reck willing to hammer/we need one more

deas????

I can hammer if no one hammers before 5pm GMT+8

[Sirius9121]

idk maybe go get adorable
VOTE: adorable

I don't understand what is happening to me...?

[Sirius9121]

Thanks Isis!

@Sirius
Claim now plz

bullsh*t townie

[Sirius9121]

As in VT right?

Cool beans

Final thoughts?

am I dead already

I mean bulge got e-1 and he didn't die

[Sirius9121]

there always is hope

[Sirius9121]

IV will start efforting in this game if I live and he doesn't want a confirmed townie to be eliminated.

[Sirius9121]

have your teammates weighed in on this game at all?

iconeum has given up on me and has told me that he's treating this game as schrodinger's cat.

[Sirius9121]

my teammates didn't even feed me fake content

like ico and IV are both good at scum

what is the world where i and beeboy are scum, two super inactive slots, and teammates (gypyx, iconeum, iv) just let me shitpost and give little content
is the world thats quite stupid where this was a strategy which is ducking stupid

[Sirius9121]

this is a team mafia game and that we are esssentially a hydra so what is the insistence on me being the only content producer?

[Sirius9121]

this is a team mafia game and that we are esssentially a hydra so what is the insistence on me being the only content producer?

Well you said Ico gave up on the game and IV hasn't given you anything to go on so I don't think it matters and they aren't here to give thoughts now, you are. Thus that's what I want wtm.

Do you have a readslist?

point here is that I am town. albeit the most useless town ever in the history of TM. still town.

[Sirius9121]

dats is trying to pressure me into voting which I think scummy

iv thinks its Nai

iv thinks aristo is town...


uh... adorable probscum

[Sirius9121]

I wouldn't be that hard on yourself tbh

But I take it that's a no on the readslist?

I have a giant mess of ideas instead of an organized list


I also am kinda sick and have a headache because of limits and derivatives

[Sirius9121]

I mean I'm down to vote ador/dv/ydra in order

[Sirius9121]

which are coincidentally all on my wagon

starting to think there a traitor somewhere in those three

[Sirius9121]

eh

[Sirius9121]

something I made earlier idk

[Sirius9121]

aristo probtown for engaging me idk

[Sirius9121]

ah well, I think this is flipping town for that graph lol
but yeah, this is the flip today. sorry, Sirius

if u vote adorable we are 4-4

[Sirius9121]

if im town just help me a bit

[Sirius9121]

if u think*

[Sirius9121]

when'd you make that graph and why?

to try solve the game of course

Spoiler: fail test

bulge post: town win n2021 37/751 (9) = 44% of avg.
town win mi961 59/489 (8) =96% of avg.

scum win N2023 147/1984 (9) = 66%
scum win O792 91/1422 (13) = 83%

I've tried different methods to solve (as above)

but I still dk how to play maf

[Sirius9121]

mafia that is

[Sirius9121]

what do those numbers even mean

trying to sort bulge with post counts

please hectic just move somewhere else
doesn't my wagon feel stuffy

[Sirius9121]

uh, it's a little too late for that Sirius. it would've been helpful if you'd posted stuff like that graph and the other ways you were trying to solve this game when it wasn't 3 hours or whatever till deadline

just go to ydrasse, I'll sheep you if it means I don't have to get eliminated :shrug:

apologizing for the lack of content i gave so far,
not really confident in playing this and my teammates are trying to help give me confidence to generate and share more ideas

[Sirius9121]

if I can get 5 votes in 2 hours, ydrasse, and puff, or DV, can get their 3 to 4 votes in 4 hours eh

[Sirius9121]

lol I don't think you've been reading the game if you think I'd vote Ydrasse

...

[Sirius9121]

*waves to audience*
ari town
hectic null-town
sirius town

[Sirius9121]

at least 1 scum in ydra/puffy/dats/dv/isis

[Sirius9121]

maybe not dats but eh

[Sirius9121]

why not creature

yes add creature

[Sirius9121]

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[Sirius9121]

if hectic scum, other scum either adorable or ydra