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[Nancy Drew 39]

But if someone was hardpushing him, maybe not?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Mistyx - Town
Iconeum - Town

TheGoldenParadox - ?

Nancy Drew 39 - Town
Flavor Leaf - Town (grain of salt though)
Pine12 - Town
thestatusquo - Town

Ramcius - Town enough for day 1

NorwegianboyEE - Town

zoraster1 - Townish for ~reasons but posting is so awful

BBMolla - Town

Dr Easy Bake1 - ?

Akarin1 - ?

where I'm at atm

don't give my posts too much credence I just needed to organize my thoughts

[Nancy Drew 39]

Zoraster please full claim abilities or I'm probably voting your way

Zoraster should claim their abilities thanks

Meh, if they’re a scum 1-shot Neighborizer what’s a better claim?

Tbh I think the Zor wagon was all town so that post is drivvle

I'm sort of getting cold feet in terms that I don't think Zor/Ak are both scum and I'm not super confident it's Zor

Every time I type up the post to switch my vote to Ak I delete it so I guess I'll stay here

TGP and Akarin probably look the worst from this.

@TGP are you going to link a scumgame for me or are you going to make me have to effort?

Only thing is if the scumteam is even remotely competent then it would point away from Akarin

[Pine]

Ugh, no, Nancy.

Don’t ask him to link a scumgame. If he’s scum, he’ll just link to one that looks like this, and if he’s Town he’s more likely to pick a random one that won’t represent anything in particular.

I hate this sort of faux meta. You either do the work or accrue it naturally over time. Cherry-picking just leads to bad or random reads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Pine

How much did Jingle read of Day 1/BBMolla's ISO and what do they mean by "He's not an obvious shot"?

Jingle largely agrees though we talked about tracking the night kill, trying to figure out who would have shot BB. He's not an obvious shot, and that can really say a lot.

[Mistyx]

this mafia game is certainly a game

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ugh, no, Nancy.

Don’t ask him to link a scumgame. If he’s scum, he’ll just link to one that looks like this, and if he’s Town he’s more likely to pick a random one that won’t represent anything in particular.

I hate this sort of faux meta. You either do the work or accrue it naturally over time. Cherry-picking just leads to bad or random reads.

Okay fine but I don’t see why it hurts for him to do that? After all. it doesn’t stop me from finding a different game to contrast this with, does it?

One thing that keeps bothering me about TGP is that he keeps being super confident on his reads despite being wrong. He did that with both me and Ram and now FL. I think think he sounded salty when he realized I was obvtown and of course there was the whole “I think you’re awesome and cool thing while insisting I was scum and eventhough he did clarify the Noraa read for me, why did he try to initially make it sound like scum!me had ever fooled town!Noraa rather than talk about the one game where she was scum and me town and also add something along the lines of that she also could possibly be wrong on me based on playing scum with me? But he didn’t clarify that until I outright pushed him on that.

Also Norwee’s reasons for tr him are superficial - not shading Norwee here - just that his stated reasons don’t justify the extremely strong tr he has on that slot.

This is why I mindmeld with Ram and am reluctant to push Akarin because I’m not completely convinced that it couldn’t have been an attempt to possibly chain mislynches on Akarin, Ram. I’m currently null on Akarin and if TGP is scum, because the Akarin push happened right at the start of D2, a temporary bus isn’t out of the question but for now I lean more to her being LHF but it’s extremely weak. Ram is strong town for me now.

I would say that molla’s ISO looks the worst for him and a claim of a one shot neighbourizer with 0 confirmation from the neighbourizee, isn’t really convincing for me.

Also, the most compelling reason that Norwee gave for tr him to me was the whole Ceph thing but there isn’t any reason that scum couldn’t have also have done that. In my most recent scumgame, I had absolutely no problems finding really townie sounding reasons to find reasons to tr certain slots and considering that Zor was very likely the leading wagon, why not do that to get towncred? Point being,

finding decent reasons to tr a dead townie is NAI if you don’t really try very hard to actually stop that wagon

. He never did anything to do that at all iirc. And I still maintain that if you’ve been wrong on a player twice in a row, you don’t sr them with the level of confidence he did me without having a hard guilty.

Contrast that with Ico’s push on me, while it was obviously dead wrong and fmpov very silly, based on what I’ve seen from him today a very clear effort to sort me. I guess the main reason I’m tr Ico’s push was because it was him who came to the realization I was very likely town and unlike TGP didn’t weirdly seem unhappy about that, rather almost relieved.

So yes, sorry @Pine, I would still like him to link one of his scumgames for me, which doesn’t mean I won’t metadive him.

[Mistyx]

@TGP

when you get a chance, what have you done that's outside of your scumrange this game?

@TGP

[Iconeum]

I guess the main reason I’m tr Ico’s push was because it was him who came to the realization I was very likely town and unlike TGP didn’t weirdly seem unhappy about that, rather almost relieved.

ur not wrong

while i certainly don't agree with your every read here, posts like 2231 at least fortify the townread on Nancy

i wish FL would show me stuff like that so I can breath easier on that account as well, because I do not share Nancy's optimism about FL

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 2.08

NorwegianboyEE(2)

~ Flavor Leaf(181), Ramcius(48)

Flavor Leaf(2)

~ NorwegianboyEE(139), TheGoldenParadox(11)

Akarin(2)

~ thestatusquo(36), Pine(7)

Dr Easy Bake(1)

~ Iconeum(96)


Not Voting (4): Mistyx(38), Nancy Drew 39(131), Dr Easy Bake(6), Akarin(8)


With 11 alive it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-12 12:40:00)

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[Nancy Drew 39]

Did a brief metadive on TGP and it was inconclusive. I’m still not sheeping him on anything because regardless of alignment, he doesn’t have a particularly compelling BoP history.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@TGP, I’m very curious to hear Mastina’s read on the playerlist/gamestate.

[Ramcius]

ok @ everyone

can we just focus on the slots that are literally not doing anything right now? We have a TON of content on the active slots, there's plenty of opinions and it's clearly not developping much further. Do we really wanna go into Day 3 with someone like DEB who is ONLY shitposting/ignoring this game?

If we have so much info, why we aren't flipping scum and we're just going to policy a lurker? Also, I'm waiting for your promised fight too, and answers, like, why Norwee OMGUSing 2 people is fine, but Nancy's OMGUS on you was bad

[Pine]

Ramcius I’m pretty sure Ico just needs to take a step back. Its reads feel heavily emotion-based, and its pursuing a lot of what appear to be TvT vendettas.

[Pine]

He*

[NorwegianboyEE]

@PINE

@Pine

How much did Jingle read of Day 1/BBMolla's ISO and what do they mean by "He's not an obvious shot"?

Jingle largely agrees though we talked about tracking the night kill, trying to figure out who would have shot BB. He's not an obvious shot, and that can really say a lot.

[Pine]

@Norwegian take a hint

[NorwegianboyEE]

How very townie of you to ignore my teams attempts at solving your slot.

[NorwegianboyEE]

ok @ everyone

can we just focus on the slots that are literally not doing anything right now? We have a TON of content on the active slots, there's plenty of opinions and it's clearly not developping much further. Do we really wanna go into Day 3 with someone like DEB who is ONLY shitposting/ignoring this game?

If we have so much info, why we aren't flipping scum and we're just going to policy a lurker? Also, I'm waiting for your promised fight too, and answers, like, why Norwee OMGUSing 2 people is fine, but Nancy's OMGUS on you was bad

The sooner you disassociate our read of FL as OMGUS the sooner you will excel at his game.

[Pine]

like honestly, i dont give a fuck at this point.

if you think i'm scum here, y'all hopeless

Couldn't agree more.

VOTE: Norwegian

My team's been helping out with reads while I flounder a bit catching up. Dannflor's money is on a Norwegian/Akarin/TGP scumteam, though I'm not sold on TGP. Jingle largely agrees though we talked about tracking the night kill, trying to figure out who would have shot BB. He's not an obvious shot, and that can really say a lot. It was a process of elimination, but we thought the person with the best combination of experience, perceived threat level, and teammates might be Mistyx.

I'm feeling pretty good about those reads. {Norwegian, Akarin} and one of {TGP, Mistyx} seems most likely.

I'll support that with Townreads -

Flavor Leaf and Nancy continue to be rock solid TRs for me.

Shea is playing recklessly and punishing people who aren't as invested in the game. I fucking hate that, and it's generally anti-Town, but the vigor of it suggests he's pursuing an aggressive attempt to sort. If he were flippant and actually

pursued

his shitty vendettas, it might be a scum veneer. He's not - he drops them as soon as he has a real lead. I can respect that.

Ramcius and Iconeum are harder to read, but playing generally to a pro-Town agenda.

DEB I haven't got a clue on.

All the information you want is in here. I’m not spending half my lunch break getting into the weeds on an asked-and-answered scummy question from scum.

This is exactly the kind of “Look, I’m pressuring people!” insistence that adds nothing except a hollow attempt to manufacture Towncred. Bite me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm asking the question for a reason. You can keep ignoring, it will only make you look worse in the long run.

[Pine]

Asked and answered twice now. Get a hobby or refine your question.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok, while you've been making petty remarks and acting like a child. I've been trying to consider something about your quote that bothers me.

In BBMolla's posts:
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1145

We can see that BBMolla was beyond obvious going to be the night kill. It wasn't hard to see BB was a JOAT, we wanted to know why Jingle thought "it wasn't the obvious shot".
I do believe that most players if scum in this playerlist could catch that crumb, does Jingle disagree with this?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does Jingle think that Mistyx is the most likely to have caught the crumb?
Shirou believes that it's unlikely for Jingle to consider Mistyx as one of the best PR hunters in this playerlist and I don't believe Jingle thinks Alisae/Chennis are reading this game to find PR crumbs for him.

Another thing to consider is that the unique other player that crumbed was FL, but FL is alive and well so far.

[Mistyx]

him

her