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Post Post #2650 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:20 pm

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A short timeline of what happened in the TGP hood:

-he invites me, and opens with a post that basicly says that he hooded me because i'm not a lurker and sorteable. He also confirmed his action.
-i spammed quite a bit of my thoughts, some of which were aimed at baiting a reaction and weren't entirely truthfull. I overstated my scumread on you (but still, i had every intention of poking you today)
-i made a remark of how terrible of an idea it would be to push you today in the current gamestate and that it would result in a total shitfest (who could've imagined that lol)

-TGP basicly agreed with my take on you, that pushing you today is a bad idea but that he would also be interested in poking you to get some AI content out of you. He suggested a D3 join-push on you.

In short, when the environment seemed to turn 'ripe' for a push on you, he came into the main thread and just joined the push on you. No discussing it in our hood, no agreements, no shared thoughts.

That felt incredibly opportunistic to me.
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Post Post #2651 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:21 pm

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The only thing standing in the way here is that TGP is claiming IRL busy works, which is NAI but like... can easily be true.
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Post Post #2652 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:21 pm

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yeah, thought you already said the last part

why does this have anything to do with my takes?

seems like anyone would have liked to see that
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Post Post #2653 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:22 pm

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i hard disagree there isn't AI stuff from me since the beginning of the game, you guys just double think yourselves with me
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Post Post #2654 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:23 pm

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me backing off of zoraster as long as i did, and then hammering even though DEB would have hammered, I really feel just should be so obvious that I'm town here
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Post Post #2655 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:23 pm

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In post 2638, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2634, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2632, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If you’re going to act scummy on purpose and then get mad when scumread it’s pretty hypocritical of you be blaming me for your shit reads.
nah, you're just a baby with pressure
This isn’t a reason to scumread me. In fact, if you know someone acts like a baby with pressure then the optimal play is to leave them alone and sort them by other means. Which you aren’t doing, and why this push is opportunistic coming from you.
Flipping someone is best way to sort them
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Post Post #2656 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:24 pm

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In post 2653, Flavor Leaf wrote:i hard disagree there isn't AI stuff from me since the beginning of the game, you guys just double think yourselves with me
we can agree and disagree on that forever, but the truth is that *
to me*
you were not sorteable with the content you produced
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Post Post #2657 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:24 pm

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idk, there's just so much more I feel like should have been taken advantage of, and Norwegian thinking my push on him is opportunistic is just straight the dumbest thing ive ever heard. It's not even opportunistic, it's literally just right there in front of everyone's face
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Post Post #2658 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:24 pm

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In post 2656, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2653, Flavor Leaf wrote:i hard disagree there isn't AI stuff from me since the beginning of the game, you guys just double think yourselves with me
we can agree and disagree on that forever, but the truth is that *
to me*
you were not sorteable with the content you produced
then you should learn how to read people better
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Post Post #2659 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:25 pm

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there's a reason some people think i'm like the easiest person on site to read (exaggeration, but yeah)

Krazy, A50, RCE, and apparently Pine can spot town me in an instant.
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Post Post #2660 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:26 pm

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In post 2658, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2656, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2653, Flavor Leaf wrote:i hard disagree there isn't AI stuff from me since the beginning of the game, you guys just double think yourselves with me
we can agree and disagree on that forever, but the truth is that *
to me*
you were not sorteable with the content you produced
then you should learn how to read people better
why should i do that, if i can just provoke them and get what i want that way
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Post Post #2661 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:27 pm

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i play mafia by interacting with people and creating reactions, then i go back later in the game, do wagonomics, and look at the chain of events and actions that conspired

i have already done my wagonomics, and that's how I got to Norwegian in the first place, something they keep actively ignoring
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Post Post #2662 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:28 pm

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In post 2660, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2658, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2656, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2653, Flavor Leaf wrote:i hard disagree there isn't AI stuff from me since the beginning of the game, you guys just double think yourselves with me
we can agree and disagree on that forever, but the truth is that *
to me*
you were not sorteable with the content you produced
then you should learn how to read people better
why should i do that, if i can just provoke them and get what i want that way
yeah, and how'd that work out for you, you just came to the conclusion i was town way later than you could have, with much much more effort.

i do shit on my terms.
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Post Post #2663 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:30 pm

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In post 2661, Flavor Leaf wrote:i play mafia by interacting with people and creating reactions, then i go back later in the game, do wagonomics, and look at the chain of events and actions that conspired
And what makes you think that I don't play in a similar way? My best reads come from direct interaction with players, and I tend to deliberately get up in someone's face if I wanna sort them properly. I've done that with both Nancy and you this game. There's PLENTY of examples in my towngames that support my statement.

The only thing with you that got out of hand was your dismissal and high-horse play vs me. Other then that, I was in full control of what I was doing.
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Post Post #2664 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:32 pm

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Norwegian/TGP/Status could be a team, but Status would have probably shaded me more if that were the case, but he seemed to try to brush Norwegian off the TvT, maybe because he thinks that they would lose, but that's an option I'm looking into right now
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Post Post #2665 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:32 pm

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In post 2662, Flavor Leaf wrote:yeah, and how'd that work out for you, you just came to the conclusion i was town way later than you could have, with much much more effort.i do shit on my terms.
quite excellent, really. My reads on Nancy and you have improved. I think people had an easy time seeing I'm actually town this game because of it.

It's interesting that there are slots in game who are just ignoring every single bit of content that's happening. Will make it easy to solve later on.

yeah i was actually pretty pleased with the result (except for the over-the-top arguments, i don't take pride in those)
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Post Post #2666 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:33 pm

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eh, you got me nearly universally town read, so I guess I can't complain too much
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Post Post #2667 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:33 pm

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In post 2664, Flavor Leaf wrote:Norwegian/TGP/Status could be a team, but Status would have probably shaded me more if that were the case, but he seemed to try to brush Norwegian off the TvT, maybe because he thinks that they would lose, but that's an option I'm looking into right now
TSQ is town based on the fact that he got so upset that nobody was listening to his reads and push - I don't think that was faked
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Post Post #2668 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:35 pm

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Norwegian/TGP pinged me hard at the beginning of this day phase, and I've never really been able to let go of it.

I think he's just derpscumming me, and purposefully getting me worked up
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Post Post #2669 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:36 pm

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Norwegian also looks like he's trying to setup an Akarin-FL misfade chain, so I'm starting to become less sure with Akarin, which makes me less sure with Status.
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Post Post #2670 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:37 pm

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In post 2669, Flavor Leaf wrote:Norwegian also looks like he's trying to setup an Akarin-FL misfade chain
i specifically think this happened after Mistyx's post
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Post Post #2671 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:37 pm

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TGP flipping scum is probably gonna make me reconsider my norwee townread actually
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Post Post #2672 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:37 pm

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so that is another piece of the chain link on top of all the other things I had already stated
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Post Post #2673 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:39 pm

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And Ramcius is one of my strongest town reads here, and Pine's a higher up town read too, really just the pocket paranoia for me, like the what if, because everytime I ask why would he defend me like this as scum, i get the answer because I am defending him pretty hard.

but like, i do think he's town? if that makes sense. i should think he's town because if he is scum, he set out to make me town read him, but if Pine was scum, I think the Norwegian wagon would pick up more.
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Post Post #2674 (ISO) » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:40 pm

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In post 2672, Flavor Leaf wrote:so that is another piece of the chain link on top of all the other things I had already stated
i am not a master of this game like you are and i don't pretend that i am
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