TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[NorwegianboyEE]

You're being manipulated by Pine who is a very good scum player. (JJH's words not mine)

[Thestatusquo]

I am not a huge fan of JJH just starting to read the game right now. As I mentioned earlier my experience is that teams tend to read/stay current with their teams town games and not necessarily with their scum games so JJH starting a read like this doesn't feel great because it seems to me that it would be more indicative of scum being like "hey I'm being wagoned I need some help" more so than town who would likely have had their team reading the game the whole time.

Why wasn't JJH reading your game the whole time? Why wasn't the rest of your team?

[NorwegianboyEE]

JJH replaced into my team after ABR screwed up the Large Normal.

[NorwegianboyEE]

He wasn’t here the whole way for obvious reasons.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Shirou has been reading all the time and MT has been focusing on his own game mostly.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s a waste to bring up this when JJH not having catched up to the whole game yet is mostly because it’s a long ass game and he replaced in to our team after the game had already gone through a bit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

He also activity spikes on werkends too.
Can you give some question to Pine and FL too? It’s getting really annoying how i keep getting asking these extremely obvious questions and needing to put in Herculean efforts to save this game while Pine is sipping with a girly drink on Tahiti beach and letting FL do all the work for him.

[Flavor Leaf]

i feel like you've done all the work for me, so that means you're doing all the work for pine's tahiti beach drinks

[Pine]

Nancy - Jingle wants you to know that he is in no way reading all of the TM games closely enough to watch for PR tells, and expecting him to do so is horseshit. He (and I) have lives. IIRC, this is the only one he’s following at all closely, and that’s because I’m in over my head with work, my LSG, and the fact that my Towngame is trash. There’s also a significant difference between calling out hard claims as scummy and catching crumbs.

Also, while he’s here, he wants me to emphasize just how fucking scummy it is that Norwee keeps provoking Flavor Leaf, riling him up, then accusing him of toxicity. He’s stirring the pot and manipulating the gamestate.

[Pine]

He also activity spikes on werkends too.
Can you give some question to Pine and FL too? It’s getting really annoying how i keep getting asking these extremely obvious questions and needing to put in Herculean efforts to save this game while Pine is sipping with a girly drink on Tahiti beach and letting FL do all the work for him.

Oh hey, while I’M here, asking obvious surface-level questions, then bemoaning how much work you’re doing is like scum 101.

[Flavor Leaf]

I apologized to my team for my actions, but they trust my reasonings for pushing Norwegian. They're not super caught up here, though, because I'd rather just say my thoughts in the game thread, but they said they'd look into it more if I asked them to.

[Pine]

I am not a huge fan of JJH just starting to read the game right now. As I mentioned earlier my experience is that teams tend to read/stay current with their teams town games and not necessarily with their scum games so JJH starting a read like this doesn't feel great because it seems to me that it would be more indicative of scum being like "hey I'm being wagoned I need some help" more so than town who would likely have had their team reading the game the whole time.

Why wasn't JJH reading your game the whole time? Why wasn't the rest of your team?

This is also horseshit. I haven’t tracked a teammate’s game as any alignment ever, and I’d say that’s true for about half of TM players

[Pine]

They might call my attention to something or get my take, but it’s THEIR game, not mine

[Flavor Leaf]

I was scum in the last 2 team mafia's, and the 1st team mafia i was in, i was town who didn't talk to my teammates much, so ive never really talked with my teammates much in Team Mafia, so it's kind of just ingrained in me to play my game, ask for help when I want one of their opinions, but know they arent here inside the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

also, if anything, I feel more inclined to help teammates over the years that are scum rather than town, but I guess that could be just because of who I am

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don’t think you’re getting it, I hard tr Ram and I hard sr TGP. I was only iffy on Pine and that jjh readslist is making me think that Ico maybe the next wagon you push because I flat out don’t believe any readslist with TGP that high and Ico so low.

What?
Are you crazy? I do not scumread Iconeum at all.

You posted a readslist from jjh with that. So why even post that list if not to make people doubt Ico then?

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Nancy
*JJH says you should know that Ico is null on their list and they are only halfway through the game so far.
It's effectively some early POE. They do not particularly know what to make of Ico at this point, but would not want an lim there and believes you are focusing on the wrong bits
Even though they are claiming to be pretty sure you are wrong on TGP.
And the important thing is that Pine is scum.

Because JJH says he is, correct?

Yep, I’m totally sold now.

[Nancy Drew 39]

JJH's final input:
Flavour Leaf should reevaluate Pine because he knows Pine's posts have been designed to pocket him.
Also for this years salt awareness week he wants to see more Flavour, less salt.

Jjh is all knowing huh? Fascinating.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I hate to break it to you @Norwee but I might never vote out Pine - specifically because of YOU. Tell your team, we’re not idiots here.

[Nancy Drew 39]

i have a hydra coming up named Sweet and Salty, guess which I am

Sweet?

Spoiler:

I actually know who your hydra partner is.

[Flavor Leaf]

hey, jjh is all knowing!!! unless he says im scum then he doesn't know anything

[Flavor Leaf]

Kidding, I actually think very highly of jjh as a player ^

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t think you’re getting it, I hard tr Ram and I hard sr TGP. I was only iffy on Pine and that jjh readslist is making me think that Ico maybe the next wagon you push because I flat out don’t believe any readslist with TGP that high and Ico so low.

What?
Are you crazy? I do not scumread Iconeum at all.

You posted a readslist from jjh with that. So why even post that list if not to make people doubt Ico then?

JJH said he wanted me to share their reads so i did.

[Nancy Drew 39]

You're being manipulated by Pine who is a very good scum player. (JJH's words not mine)

[Nancy Drew 39]

Shirou has been reading all the time and MT has been focusing on

his

own game mostly.

You don’t even know that Tweetie is a “she” yet?