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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:03 pm

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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:10 pm

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Oh yay I'm ckmpeting for lead wagon with DV who I happen to townread. That said I like the wagoners on me far less than those on DV for town.

Also, @Isis the VC lists Bulge under woting me and not voting, just fyj.

Reck's apparent murderboner for me is meh. I'll have to reread it but I guess I don't see that coming as hard from scum as it is here.

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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:45 pm

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what a mess of a vc that is

also i find it funny that the above post said the word "reread" 3 times

probably need to include something game relevant
@deas, why do you suddenly talk about reevaluating ari (, ) only to like, drop it and never speak of it again
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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:53 pm

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Datisi 1387 was my reevaluation
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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:55 pm

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In post 1401, Aristophanes wrote:Oh yay I'm ckmpeting for lead wagon with DV who I happen to townread. That said I like the wagoners on me far less than those on DV for town.

Also, @Isis the VC lists Bulge under woting me and not voting, just fyj.

Reck's apparent murderboner for me is meh. I'll have to reread it but I guess I don't see that coming as hard from scum as it is here.

I'll reread the Bulge but honestly they're the best I have as a scumread atm. I need to reread and make sure that hilds up tho.
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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:59 pm

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oh
somehow after reading "ari's posts are easy to criticize" my brain just skipped ahead

ok yeah bed time for me it is

not sure how much i agree with "scum with beeboy doesn't post that" but like idk, i feel like we've gone around everyone and said whether scum with beeboy does or doesn't post something and we're not smarter after it so
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:16 pm

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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:34 pm

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In post 1405, Datisi wrote:oh
somehow after reading "ari's posts are easy to criticize" my brain just skipped ahead

ok yeah bed time for me it is

not sure how much i agree with "scum with beeboy doesn't post that" but like idk, i feel like we've gone around everyone and said whether scum with beeboy does or doesn't post something and we're not smarter after it so
I’m not resting my entire ari read on that one thing, but the comparison to xof was bizarre and complaining about one of your buddy’s being persecuted for inactivity and not [town who has actually posted content] feels like something that would not make it past the “is this worth posting?” stage of scum-thought.
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:34 pm

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In post 1406, Sirius9121 wrote:good morning
Hi Sirius, how are you?
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:35 pm

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In post 1406, Sirius9121 wrote:good morning
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:38 pm

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That sounds like a great place to be right now
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:39 pm

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I'm still not able to understand the town read on Sirius and most of his posts have been fluff.
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:42 pm

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In post 1411, Adorable wrote:I'm still not able to understand the town read on Sirius and most of his posts have been fluff.
maybe I'm a bulletproof cop that everyone else has noticed a crumb except for you :P

BTW the feeling is mutual. I don't really tr you and don't know why others are doing so.
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:28 pm

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@datisi: the best way to describe my read on you right now is like... rooting this in the present because it's easiest, but i feel like you're trying to push a lot of momentum in this game at times where it'd be most opportune for scum to just... not, you know? this game has been slow and look how slow served us d1, lol. a scramble at the end. your anger that people weren't doing things/irritation feels like it comes from a towny place bc of that. in general uh, i feel like you're taking this game rather Seriously which is a bit of a switch-up or maybe i just haven't played with you for a while but there's an edge almost to how you're approaching everyone.

also bc this is fresh on the mind the fact that you're even asking for my read on you in like, an interrogation-style feels good to me because you're not just... accepting it at face value and letting it slide, bc in reality it's not something you HAVE to question and if oyu're scum most likely you just smile, nod and keep doing other things or don't even do things at all and let the low-energy sort of permeate the town.

uh, so yeah. like... idk, this is like a general just View of how you've been acting and not going into your content which like... i've pointed out a few things here and there that have made me :/ but as a whole i genuinely can't see why you approach the game as you do if you're scum? i guess you could be like, trying to powerwolf and asking things and trying to root up tender little townies to flip over because there's not too much opposition to you atm but also like. why does scum even let that happen, i guess? idk! doesn't feel likely to me atp and i'm fine just like... dealing with u later if you turn out to be scum bc i feel like for someone asking so many things/Posting A Lot it'll become more obvious down the road
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:37 pm

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my townreads are split between wagons AHHHHH

ari being wagoned pings me w/o reading his iso bc from my experience ari is an easy person to wagon for his lack of activity? like there's no resistance there bc he's just not around to do anything abt it but also like looking at the vc, im... mostly fine w the people on it atm. uhhh

okay let me open up ari's iso. i thought that there was just one post where he didn't talk about rce/beeboy / had them as null but uh. huh. idk if ari just like, doesn't... say anything abt his partner if his partner is getting wagoned. something concrete at least? it's dodgy but it feels a bit ??? to me to avoid doing that unless he jus didn't have time. really wish mr. ari was here now though to like, vote somewhere if he's not content w the wagon that isn't him though, there's like... idk, reading it now im like "why havent you voted reck or bulge if you feel that way or even like, deas just as a survivability thing?" i know he townreads the last one there but like theres no drive to move things away from him or anything which idk how to read LMAO. maybe this is just projecting ig
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:43 pm

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so like, for the bulge i had this like, inner vibe read where i thought they were town and im happy to announce that the reads list made me feel vindicated, i dont have the same order exactly but it lines up with what im thinking sans like... move sirius and deas down a tier basically and that's what im working with, the former is kinda ? for me to parse but im not intereste din like... killing it, really, okay actually that's more a townlean and deas i need to think about a bit but the read on ari feels like... i guess a little weak for someone who has ari as one of his top trs? i agree w the fact that ari is easy to have a go at but it feels like there's too much faith there to trust him like that. uhhh. ari actually can go in null with a hint of scum instead of at the bottom entirely re: bulge's list.
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:44 pm

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wow i look deranged okay

i wanna chew on this when im at work tmrw

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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:52 pm

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if i had to vote btwn these two wagons right now id probably? go on deas again but looking between them is like... hmmmm

@augustus: i miss u. tell me what u think of deas's recent posting when youre here bc idk what to make of creature vs deas. lowkey i feel like describing deas as flail-y this game is like... idk about that one
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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:57 pm

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also apparently deas actually towncased ari more than i thought so like, scratch off that lil part of whatever i wrote in these last posts

anyone having ari as their top tr despite this though is so weird to me that im like, sitting and nodding at it like ok cool idk how you did this but uh it seems like you believe this so nea

im delirious and i have work in a few hours good night ill be back tomorrow now that im feeling this game
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:51 pm

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In post 1417, Ydrasse wrote:if i had to vote btwn these two wagons right now id probably? go on deas again but looking between them is like... hmmmm

@augustus: i miss u. tell me what u think of deas's recent posting when youre here bc idk what to make of creature vs deas. lowkey i feel like describing deas as flail-y this game is like... idk about that one
Is there a reason that you're limiting yourself to choosing between two wagons? Your recent posts don't convincingly communicate to me a read on either of myself or Ari being scum. Also I note that you express frustration with Ari not being around to push against his wagon or vote somewhere else, but that's exactly what I'm doing and you're not doing anything with that.
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:29 am

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In post 1404, DeasVail wrote:What about Ydrasse?
I'll take a look at her today/tomorrow. I see she replaced in on her main which might make her easier to read tbh
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:25 am

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oh in my head it helps me sort things if i have to gauge two players against each other? @deas, i’m not locked into either wagon

you’re both in the lower half of my poe and i implied that but also i think my rambling was sort of incoherent
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:25 am

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but my poe is also more like, the result of townhunting than scumhunting
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:16 am

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In post 1392, The Bulge wrote:
In post 1128, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1121, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1101, Datisi wrote:what's the point of saying "oh i expect i'll be moving on"?? like it feels more ~for show~ rather than like. a towny thought process of solving another slot.
It was partly me thinking that I was probably wrong in my sudden paranoia of xofelf and partly me wanting to see how xofelf responded to that. I think it can be interesting seeing how people respond to different approaches to their slot. For example day 1 I gave petapan a lot of "shade" without ever really pushing him directly, while I was more aggressive at Adorable. I don't have a specific "I expect scum-X to respond a certain way to a certain approach" but I'm using this game as an opportunity to explore different approaches and see what works for me I guess.

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You think the dueling wagons y/day were SvS?
I noted this as trying to cast doubt on that possibility, but looking again it's actually clearly the opposite, and reck is trying to open this dialogue after briefly hopping onto the Summer counterwagon yesterday, and has been lazily floating it as an alternative to ari all day now.
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:17 am

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In post 1393, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1388, xRECKONERx wrote:@DV: What are the things that have come up that have forced you to re-evaluate your reads on me/xof?
Can you talk to me about why you're scumreading Datisi? I don't think you've mentioned that before
Between you and xof, I'm definitely less concerned about you and I do think some of the concern is probably silly paranoia. From you some of the stuff towards the end of Day 1 was slightly questionable to me. was a weird reaction at Datisi and I remember feeling a bit suspicious of your team-driven vote onto RCE after talking about how you believed the claim to be real (almost as if you wanted be on the wagon more than anything else) but I don't actually have strong belief in any of this. They are passing thoughts I have and I would prefer not to be judged on them.
Xofelf is a little more concerning to me sometimes. When I voted for them in was probably the best example of me having a moment of reconsideration.
Having had a quick skim through your posts and xof's posts again right now though, I still think you're probably both town. I just have ~moments~ here and there. Maybe the fact that Ari isn't posting is a reason why I don't get paranoid of him (hah), as obviously problematic as that is.

I feel like I haven't talked much about my suspicion of either Datisi nor The Bulge before, but in Datisi's case when it comes to game-solving/scumhunting it feels more reactive to events of the game that are happening than Datisi actually directing things and trying to influencing the course of the game etc. The reason for my expressed hesitation in my post though, is that I don't have any specific "content" that I scumread Datisi based on. It is mostly that I townread the rest of the game at least slightly more.
Okay, interesting. You don't wanna be judged or talk about those passing suspicions which is fine by me, I'll let them lie

I mostly wanted to see where your head is at with like, why you're feeling any cold feet at all on your reads, and the "something nibbling away at me but not something big enough I even want to grapple with right now" line of thinking vibes 100%
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