TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[PenguinPower]

Votecount 2.15

TheGoldenParadox(5)

~ Nancy Drew 39(281), Akarin(49), Ramcius(69), Iconeum(223), Mistyx(69)

NorwegianboyEE(2)

~ Flavor Leaf(420), Pine(56)

Pine(1)

~ NorwegianboyEE(301)

Akarin(1)

~ thestatusquo(90)


Not Voting (2): TheGoldenParadox(13), Dr Easy Bake(12)


Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-12 12:40:00)

Mod Notes

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[Mistyx]

oh that's E-1

also, nice^3

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you saying that only one of them is scum and not both? Because if you think both of them are scum, then flipping one would help you to convince people that other is scum too

That is indeed true. I am simply weighing threat levels. I consider scum!TGP a minor nuisanve that town will likely get rid off easily. While Pine is a considerably more dangerous individual.
But if TGP is the flip today i won’t complain. It’s certainly not the worst choice, even if i prefer Pine.

[Mistyx]

i don't think pine is endgaming as scum here

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not with me on the watch.

[Nancy Drew 39]

it's interesting that none of norwee/pine/fl actually wanna push TGP here

what do you make of that, Nancy/ram?

I don’t know but in FL’s case he seems pretty convinced on Norwee scum. With Norwee, I don’t understand because his reasoning for the tr makes little sense to me. Pine, I have no clue.

I think if he flips scum here, we can get a possible clear on Akarin because the way she voted them definitely doesn’t look aligned. I also think FL is probably right on her being LHF town.

However, I don’t see anything particularly townie about their ISO and it makes 0 sense to me that Norwee is defending him this hard.

[Nancy Drew 39]

TGP flipping scum doesn't incriminate norwee
it incriminates Pine

does anyone else see this?

Yes.
I’ve been open to a Pine TGP team all this time. Somehow Nancy constructs this as me defendibg TGP just because i want Pine first and now some BS about me being TGP’s partner is spread. I honestly think it’s far more likely that TGP indeed is scum and mafia are trying to set me up as the next elimination based on shitty fake associations.

You have been defending him and pushing Ram. I’m not misrepping shit. That doesn’t necessarily make you aligned but now you’re misrepping what you’ve been saying about both Ram and TGP. I can quote you on that, so don’t go there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe you think Rancius had been super obviously town, but i didn’t Nancy. I didn’t at all.
But i will say that if TGP flips scum here then Rancius might be more likely town as if scum he could just as easily have argued that since he tginks we’re both scum he could just keep voting me and argue for my elimination over TGP. (Making it less likely for a TGP/Ramcius team)

[Nancy Drew 39]

Pine flipping red gives me more credibility than TGP. And they are a much bigger threat than lurking TGP.

If TGP flips red that’s great. But Pine is still out there manipulating.

Are you ever going to provide an iota of evidence for this? None of this is even remotely persuasive.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Maybe you think Rancius had been super obviously town, but i didn’t Nancy. I didn’t at all.
But i will say that if TGP flips scum here then Rancius might be more likely town as if scum he could just as easily have argued that since he tginks we’re both scum he could just keep voting me and argue for my elimination over TGP. (Making it less likely for a TGP/Ramcius team)

Yes, that’s what I’ve been trying to tell you, Ram is very obviously town here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

However, I don’t see anything particularly townie about their ISO and it makes 0 sense to me that Norwee is defending him this hard.

You’re the one that’s misrepping me when you constantly call my complicated read on TGP as a defense.
Defense is me arguing for TGP being town. What i am doing is calling Pine scum and TGP also likely scum, and they can both co-exist as a scum team but also not and my biggest scumread is on Pine. But considering all the possible eliminations available TGP is sufficiently low on the ladder for me to consider them an acceptable elimination even if i don’t overtly support it. However you will notice that i don’t overly condone it either.
This isn’t an: "defense"

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pine flipping red gives me more credibility than TGP. And they are a much bigger threat than lurking TGP.

If TGP flips red that’s great. But Pine is still out there manipulating.

Are you ever going to provide an iota of evidence for this? None of this is even remotely persuasive.

Pine has been pocketing FL, pushing me for bad reasons. Trying to create fake narratives to get me miseliminated. Look at their comments on the Akarin wagon, they’ve constantly tried to make it seem like it was my goal to eliminate Akarin when it really wasn’t.
They have also been acting shifty regarding TGP as Iconeum points out.

[PenguinPower]

Searching for a replacement for TheGoldenParadox.

[TheGoldenParadox]

ugh

[TheGoldenParadox]

right so there's a wagon on me and i'm currently in a debate tournament and definitely cannot make substantive posts :///

[TheGoldenParadox]

can someone quickly explain why i'm being wagoned?

[TheGoldenParadox]

from this page; nancy is definitely town at this point
from my neighborhood, ico is probably town
VOTE: Flavor Leaf this is a good idea

[NorwegianboyEE]

can someone quickly explain why i'm being wagoned?

One thing was Iconeum getting pinged by your non-existent activity in the hood and Nancy had a myriad of other reasons too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

from this page; nancy is definitely town at this point
from my neighborhood, ico is probably town
VOTE: Flavor Leaf this is a good idea

Do you have the time to explain why is all of this?

[NorwegianboyEE]

JJh states his read on TGP has reversed and explains the main reasons for his TR was the assumption that there was more to the role than just the neighbouriser.
If Ico is now voting TGP then it stands that TGP has not shared any additional info than just the neighbouriser.
which means any additional modifiers are not pro-town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also TGP, why did you pop up just as the notice that you're getting replaced happened, are you actually keeping up with the game to some extent?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will be sad to see you go Iconeum. If TGP is scum then you being neighborized pretty much hard confirms you town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If TGP doesn't answer my questions i will hammer him purely for that beetlejuicy entrance.

[Nancy Drew 39]

However, I don’t see anything particularly townie about their ISO and it makes 0 sense to me that Norwee is defending him this hard.

You’re the one that’s misrepping me when you constantly call my complicated read on TGP as a defense.
Defense is me arguing for TGP being town. What i am doing is calling Pine scum and TGP also likely scum, and they can both co-exist as a scum team but also not and my biggest scumread is on Pine. But considering all the possible eliminations available TGP is sufficiently low on the ladder for me to consider them an acceptable elimination even if i don’t overtly support it. However you will notice that i don’t overly condone it either.
This isn’t an: "defense"

You have been pushing Ram and had been defending TGP. I could find all of the posts but I really don’t care enough. Yes, now you’re not doing that but you absolutely WERE previously.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The next flip after TGP should be Pine, and if Ramcius defends Pine and angles for my elimination tommorow. He should be flipped too.
But always Pine first.

I repeat, the path to victory here with a TGP scumflip is -> Pine. And if Pine flips scum take another look at Ramcius because he's been one of the biggest supporters of FL and Pine's push on me. And if FL is town then it can only be Ramcius. No matter how town Nancy thinks he is.