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[NorwegianboyEE]

Then why are you acting so outraged over a relatively mild comment i just made. You're telling me to "shut the fuck up" when this is a game of mafia where we are supposed to discuss and question claims.

[Pine]

But you don't - you attack the person more than the play, and sabotage things before they happen. You're undermining my claim before I've even made it, and belittling the scope of the criticism I'm offering by minimizing it to a single post.

It's dishonest and really scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But you don't - you attack the person more than the play, and sabotage things before they happen. You're undermining my claim before I've even made it, and belittling the scope of the criticism I'm offering by minimizing it to a single post.

It's dishonest and really scummy.

I do not feel like i've been unfair against you as a person. My criticisms against you are not personally motivated.
Maybe i've been harsh at some points but only as retaliation for some of your more hostile posts such as the one earlier.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You can say whatever you want about my posts and how strongly you think of me as scum, it's part of the game no matter your alignment. If scum because you need to discredit me or if town, because you genuinely believe what you're saying.

But when you tell people to actually shut up, that's where i draw the line. You signed up to a social game where everyone is supposed to have their word. To respond in such a way as you did is unbecoming.

[Flavor Leaf]

TheGoldenParadox

(6) ~ Nancy Drew 39(286),

Akarin

(49), Ramcius(70),

Iconeum

(223), Mistyx(71), NorwegianboyEE(318)

-- HAMMER

NorwegianboyEE(2)

~

Flavor Leaf

(420), Pine(56)

Flavor Leaf

(1)

~

TheGoldenParadox

(17)

Akarin

(1)

~ thestatusquo(90)


Not Voting (1):

Dr Easy Bake

(12)

[Flavor Leaf]

hmm. At least 1 scum on the TGP, probably both, but not 100%

[Nancy Drew 39]

I did little bit of Nancy's ISO and she was hard pushing TGP/Akarin D2, also I found this gem among other similar posts

Nah Pine, Norwee Town

DEB is very obviously town here.

It really rubs me wrong way how she was saying that DEB was town on several occasions

I was wrong, so what?

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Nancy - Ico was town reading me, what do you mean correct on Pine/Flavor?


Yeah, I thought DEB was town here. His read on me felt like how town him would read me.

I’m not sure exactly what you mean? He said that he didn’t think you were aligned. Are you referring to something else?

[Nancy Drew 39]

This is maybe the most interesting part of DEB's ISO, more for the game around it.

Mystyx, Norwee, Nancy

Norwee and Nancy jump on DEB for this, they actually both vote him.

Misty makes this post

reserving judgement on DEB for the time being

TSQ, can you walk me through why your read on Ramicus today outweighs the push you had on him yesterday?

Pine announces he's starting fresh as a replacement, FL makes this post

I like DEB's list except for the Nancy one, but he was voting Nancy day 1 too

DEB then says that's his town block, Nancy and Norwee back off, Norwee townreads Nancy for her reaction.

I'm not really sure what to make about this section of the game, but it's fascinating.

Fundamentally I just don't think Nancy or Norwee jump on DEB like that, and then back off so easily if they're scum with him. I'm pretty happy townblocking both of them off that (I was townreading both of them anyway though.)

@Ram, why are you ignoring this?

[Flavor Leaf]

@Nancy - Ico was town reading me, what do you mean correct on Pine/Flavor?


Yeah, I thought DEB was town here. His read on me felt like how town him would read me.

I’m not sure exactly what you mean? He said that he didn’t think you were aligned. Are you referring to something else?

i thought you were implying one of Pine and I were scum, which I don't think is the case.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Oh yeah, wrong on both TGP and Akarin because I have an extremely well known rep of having perfect reads almost as good as RAS in fact, without cheating.

Spoiler:

also have some viable swampland to sell if anyone’s interested.

Btw @Ram, I still think you’re town but if you keep this up, I won’t bother defending you cuz this annoyed me. You’re not welcome.

[Flavor Leaf]

it has to be Norwegian or Mistyx from your perspective then nancy

[Akarin]

hmm. At least 1 scum on the TGP, probably both, but not 100%

All this means is that you don't think the scumteam is TSQ-Pine.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Nancy - Ico was town reading me, what do you mean correct on Pine/Flavor?


Yeah, I thought DEB was town here. His read on me felt like how town him would read me.

I’m not sure exactly what you mean? He said that he didn’t think you were aligned. Are you referring to something else?

i thought you were implying one of Pine and I were scum, which I don't think is the case.

That’s what Ico said. I can quote it for you but yeah I think you are too but my team - well Math and Oka doesn’t.

[Flavor Leaf]

hmm. At least 1 scum on the TGP, probably both, but not 100%

All this means is that you don't think the scumteam is TSQ-Pine.

I mean, my VCA has been accurate a lot, Akarin, it's the other way.

I don't think it's TSQ-Pine because of the wagon.

I think Pine was townie prior.

Status does get a little townier now, though.

[Akarin]

When there have been no real wagons on scum all game (unless we assume scum!Norwee), wagon analysis seems worse than useless.

[Nancy Drew 39]

it has to be Norwegian or Mistyx from your perspective then nancy

Why from my perspective?

[Flavor Leaf]

@Nancy - Ico was town reading me, what do you mean correct on Pine/Flavor?


Yeah, I thought DEB was town here. His read on me felt like how town him would read me.

I’m not sure exactly what you mean? He said that he didn’t think you were aligned. Are you referring to something else?

i thought you were implying one of Pine and I were scum, which I don't think is the case.

That’s what Ico said. I can quote it for you but yeah I think you are too but my team - well Math and Oka doesn’t.

Well, Flavor Fever.

Mathblade already had it (I abused it when I was scum against them recently), and Okapoka always pushes me too when I'm town.)

Nancy, I also have to say, you don't look good by VCA, and I'm paranoid of a Nancy/Norwegian team right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

it has to be Norwegian or Mistyx from your perspective then nancy

Why from my perspective?

the TGP wagon has 4 unflipped players. If you think Ramcius is town, the only other 2 players on the wagon are Mistyx/Norwegian

[Flavor Leaf]

wagon analysis seems worse than useless.

hard disagree

[Flavor Leaf]

I think that's a generally bad take overall in Mafia.

[Flavor Leaf]

hmm. At least 1 scum on the TGP, probably both, but not 100%

All this means is that you don't think the scumteam is TSQ-Pine.

i dont understand the shading, either. It's good to have visible stuff in game regardless. You're just trying to actively shut down my analysis for some reason when I've proven over multiple years that I come to solves with stuff like this

[Akarin]

I think that's a generally bad take overall in Mafia.

I think this game is like the worst possible case for VCA being meaningful.

You really think there are never town-driven wagons on town? Bet you anything there have been some in this game. And in plenty of others.

[Akarin]

I'm not shading you, but I think your approach is completely misguided.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think that's a generally bad take overall in Mafia.

I think this game is like the worst possible case for VCA being meaningful.

You really think there are never town-driven wagons on town? Bet you anything there have been some in this game. And in plenty of others.

yes, and that's the analysis part I go through...you figure out which are which.

That is the way that my brain works and how I find scum.