TM2021 | Anime Destroys Untrod Tripod | Endgame

[Nancy Drew 39]

like i dont wanna risk Mistyx venging elsewhere, and hitting town.

I think town always loses this game if I'm alive in lylo tomorrow.

If anyone seriously thinks I’m scum here, I’ll volunteer to because I don’t want to be the game losing miselim like I was in that MU game but we optimally should try to figure out who’s scum though. It’s not me and I don’t think it’s you now but I have no clue so I’m probably useless to keep me in the game anyway.

[Mistyx]

I probably could have waited until tomorrow but didnt want to risk getting NK'd

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t want us to lim Misty.
They’re not even close to my top scumreads.

its mathematically optimal

You’re going to have to explain this because i’m mathematically illiterate.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I did little bit of Nancy's ISO and she was hard pushing TGP/Akarin D2, also I found this gem among other similar posts

Nah Pine, Norwee Town

DEB is very obviously town here.

It really rubs me wrong way how she was saying that DEB was town on several occasions

They were my #1 tr before Akarin vig claim and this post. Sorry if I’m not more help.

@Misty

[Mistyx]

also i said i was going to use it as a second elim but thats a slightly loose definition

i'm probably going to factor other things in than just votes

[Flavor Leaf]

we do it for the venge really.

So you want to lim Misty and have them venge you, even though you think they are town and supposedly know you are town as well?
What’s your goal here?

eliminate misfade possibilities.

Akarin, Nancy, Norwegian, Status, Pine, Ramcius would be final 6, likely, Akarin probably dies.

I'm just gonna be misfaded this game sometime.


Nancy/Norwegian/Status/Pine/Ramcius

who, besides Pine, do you misfade before me, Norwegian?

Now that I look at it, that probably loses us the game too if Pine is town.

[Mistyx]

I don’t want us to lim Misty.
They’re not even close to my top scumreads.

its mathematically optimal

You’re going to have to explain this because i’m mathematically illiterate.

no venge - 6v2 > 4v2 melo, 2 town kills min before parity
venge - 6v2 > 5v2 > 3v2 elo, 3 town kills min before parity

[Flavor Leaf]

alternatively, I still have my doc shot

[Mistyx]

alternatively, I still have my doc shot

we could elim someone else today and have you doc me tonight

and then use my venge tomorrow

but i think doing it in 6v2 is better than 4v2

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t want us to lim Misty.
They’re not even close to my top scumreads.

its mathematically optimal

You’re going to have to explain this because i’m mathematically illiterate.

no venge - 6v2 > 4v2 melo, 2 town kills min before parity
venge - 6v2 > 5v2 > 3v2 elo, 3 town kills min before parity

This assumes we count the elimination on you as a "town shot". Which i don’t really.

[Nancy Drew 39]

we do it for the venge really.

So you want to lim Misty and have them venge you, even though you think they are town and supposedly know you are town as well?
What’s your goal here?

eliminate misfade possibilities.

Akarin, Nancy, Norwegian, Status, Pine, Ramcius would be final 6, likely, Akarin probably dies.

I'm just gonna be misfaded this game sometime.


Nancy/Norwegian/Status/Pine/Ramcius

who, besides Pine, do you misfade before me, Norwegian?

Now that I look at it, that probably loses us the game too if Pine is town.

How is Akarin ever a misfade? She shot DEB, Why is my name first on your list?

[Flavor Leaf]

we do it for the venge really.

So you want to lim Misty and have them venge you, even though you think they are town and supposedly know you are town as well?
What’s your goal here?

eliminate misfade possibilities.

Akarin, Nancy, Norwegian, Status, Pine, Ramcius would be final 6, likely, Akarin probably dies.

I'm just gonna be misfaded this game sometime.


Nancy/Norwegian/Status/Pine/Ramcius

who, besides Pine, do you misfade before me, Norwegian?

Now that I look at it, that probably loses us the game too if Pine is town.

How is Akarin ever a misfade? She shot DEB, Why is my name first on your list?

im just listing the non confirmed, Nancy, my reads werent involved in that.

[Flavor Leaf]

i never said akarin was a misfade, i said she likely dies tonight.

That was with the idea of Mistyx venging today

[Nancy Drew 39]

alternatively, I still have my doc shot

we could elim someone else today and have you doc me tonight

and then use my venge tomorrow

but i think doing it in 6v2 is better than 4v2

It’s too bad you don’t have a disloyal venge, than I’d 100% volunteer. But I do think if you can be doc’d it’s better to wait.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think this Misty idea is awful and i don’t see the point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The only world in which this is a good idea is if we think Misty!scum. But i don’t so let’s just try to eliminate scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have absolutely no clue where Status and Ramcius' reads are at

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy
Akarin
Misty
if FL is doc?
Is Pine actually confirmed?
I still think Ram is really obvtown despite that ridiculous post.

[Flavor Leaf]

i wonder if Status and Ramcius early game was scum theatre

[Nancy Drew 39]

The only world in which this is a good idea is if we think Misty!scum. But i don’t so let’s just try to eliminate scum.

Well if FL can doc her than I agree. It really sucks that I have no clue who’s scum here.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Nancy - fypov it has to be Norwegian and Status then, meaning my 2/3 was correct

[Nancy Drew 39]

i wonder if Status and Ramcius early game was scum theatre

Well, I’m now doubting everything because if you and Pine are both confirmed then my read on him has to be wrong because I hard tr Norwee’s not wanting Misty to be elimed but Ram’s total 180 on me totally floored me.

[Pine]

I haven't tracked the last few hours, but Ari finally started taking a look at the game and says massclaim is done.

I am a Asta, a Town Jailkeeper. Aside from FL's 1-shot Doc, I am the only protective role in the game.

I jailed Flavor Leaf Night One to protect him, which is what led to this exchange:

I'm an investigative with a soft clear on status.

Fuck...you just...had to do this just as I was defending you again.

Explain, please.

im lying

Okay never mind. Carry on.

I jailed Iconeum N2, when he was apparently killed by Strongman DEB.

Jailkeeper in the hands of Town is correctly used as a defensive role, but if we can elim scum today, it can shift sharply into a pseudo-investigative role. I will change posture from protecting Townies to roleblocking scum suspects, which should produce effective investigative results.

My team and I have been working on this, and we believe we nearly have a mathematical solution.

Akarin is Town due to role. Nice shot, I apologize for ever doubting you.

Nancy is Town due to wildly obvious meta.

Misty is not scum, that claim and D3 play make sense for Town.

Flavor Leaf is Town due to numerous instances of Townish play, a highly believable claim, and multiple instances of play which would be anti-wincon with no upside as scum.

Two scum in {Norwegian, Ramcius, TSQ}. I have been TRing both of the latter two, but I am not so hidebound that I can't admit I'm wrong when it's in my face.

I want Norwegian's blood today. That will let us sort the remaining candidates.

GG

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Nancy - fypov it has to be Norwegian and Status then, meaning my 2/3 was correct

I don’t know. So, Koba hard sr Shea.

[Flavor Leaf]

i think Ico was killed because they were more likely to protect me than anyone else in the game, and Nancy and I were town reading DEB.

Like, I dont think actual scum ever town reads DEB now that I think about it, so my paranoia with Nancis is fading again