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[Flavor Leaf]

ASTAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

I have an alt from that anime

[Thestatusquo]

My PoE is {ramcius, pine, norwee, FL}

I think misty's plan makes sense, although I don't necessarily think it should be directed by vote. If misty is telling the town I'd much rather she use it as a vig shot than as an elim I think.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I haven't tracked the last few hours, but Ari finally started taking a look at the game and says massclaim is done.

I am a Asta, a Town Jailkeeper. Aside from FL's 1-shot Doc, I am the only protective role in the game.

I jailed Flavor Leaf Night One to protect him, which is what led to this exchange:

I'm an investigative with a soft clear on status.

Fuck...you just...had to do this just as I was defending you again.

Explain, please.

im lying

Okay never mind. Carry on.

I jailed Iconeum N2, when he was apparently killed by Strongman DEB.

Jailkeeper in the hands of Town is correctly used as a defensive role, but if we can elim scum today, it can shift sharply into a pseudo-investigative role. I will change posture from protecting Townies to roleblocking scum suspects, which should produce effective investigative results.

My team and I have been working on this, and we believe we nearly have a mathematical solution.

Akarin is Town due to role. Nice shot, I apologize for ever doubting you.

Nancy is Town due to wildly obvious meta.

Misty is not scum, that claim and D3 play make sense for Town.

Flavor Leaf is Town due to numerous instances of Townish play, a highly believable claim, and multiple instances of play which would be anti-wincon with no upside as scum.

Two scum in {Norwegian, Ramcius, TSQ}. I have been TRing both of the latter two, but I am not so hidebound that I can't admit I'm wrong when it's in my face.

I want Norwegian's blood today. That will let us sort the remaining candidates.

GG

Thank God someone can read me. I’m really glad I listened to my gut yesterday eventhough I was unfortunately wrong on TGP. :/

I don’t see any associatives with Norwee though.

[Flavor Leaf]

Not gonna lie, Jailkeeper is the exact role that I thought would make sense for scum to have here, but i still like Pine

[Pine]

My gut says Shea, Nancy. There's a grownup on the scumteam, and I've been getting Townier vibes from Ramcius. I'm not certain, though.

[Pine]

Not gonna lie, Jailkeeper is the exact role that I thought would make sense for scum to have here, but i still like Pine

JK makes sense on

every

scumteam. It's the ideal scum role. It's been an absolute pleasure to turn it around on scum, even if it's been 100% ineffective so far.

[Nancy Drew 39]

My PoE is {ramcius, pine, norwee, FL}

I think misty's plan makes sense, although I don't necessarily think it should be directed by vote. If misty is telling the town I'd much rather she use it as a vig shot than as an elim I think.

Pine just hardclaimed and that would mean FL couldn’t have killed molla.

[Thestatusquo]

My PoE is {ramcius, pine, norwee, FL}

I think misty's plan makes sense, although I don't necessarily think it should be directed by vote. If misty is telling the town I'd much rather she use it as a vig shot than as an elim I think.

Pine just hardclaimed and that would mean FL couldn’t have killed molla.

I am aware. I'm not in love with the claim because scum team definitely has some power besides one shot strongman to balance the double joat neighborizer 1 shot vig and misty's claim. JK would make a lot of sense for scum to have.

I'm not sure what the second part means to you but there's more than one person on a scum team.

[Nancy Drew 39]

My gut says Shea, Nancy. There's a grownup on the scumteam, and I've been getting Townier vibes from Ramcius. I'm not certain, though.

Yeah also he hard opposed Akarin as a wagon, so he definitely gets townpoints for that. Can’t you jk Akarin and FL doc Misty? I’m just a useless vt so I don’t mind being the NK.

[Pine]

My gut says Shea, Nancy. There's a grownup on the scumteam, and I've been getting Townier vibes from Ramcius. I'm not certain, though.

Yeah also he hard opposed Akarin as a wagon, so he definitely gets townpoints for that. Can’t you jk Akarin and FL doc Misty? I’m just a useless vt so I don’t mind being the NK.

I could, but that's not what I'm going to do.

[Nancy Drew 39]

My PoE is {ramcius, pine, norwee, FL}

I think misty's plan makes sense, although I don't necessarily think it should be directed by vote. If misty is telling the town I'd much rather she use it as a vig shot than as an elim I think.

Pine just hardclaimed and that would mean FL couldn’t have killed molla.

I am aware. I'm not in love with the claim because scum team definitely has some power besides one shot strongman to balance the double joat neighborizer 1 shot vig and misty's claim. JK would make a lot of sense for scum to have.

I'm not sure what the second part means to you but there's more than one person on a scum team.

Yes I’m aware but FL claimed doc, so if Misty dies, he’s scum right?

[Thestatusquo]

Why would scum claim dr and then kill the person they were claiming they would doc protect?

[Thestatusquo]

If I'm misunderstanding you I apologize but it seems like you're saying that scum FL would kill the person they said they would doc protect if they're fake claiming and that doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Why would scum claim dr and then kill the person they were claiming they would doc protect?

That’s true but what it does mean that Misty can venge tomorrow night right?

[Thestatusquo]

I'm really not sure what you're getting at. I'm simply giving a PoE of where I think scum can be.

I think you are town.
I think akarin is pretty much confirmed town.


This gives me the PoE I gave. Of that list of people I think the order of likelihood is something like pine = norwee > FL > Ramcius.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I guess my paranoia is that we’re extremely tpr heavy based off of claims. 2 town Joats, I town 1 shot vig, I town venge.

Ico flipped vt. I’m vt and I think you and Ram also claimed vt. I forget what Norwee claimed?

[Thestatusquo]

I guess my paranoia is that we’re extremely tpr heavy based off of claims. 2 town Joats, I town 1 shot vig, I town venge.

Ico flipped vt. I’m vt and I think you and Ram also claimed vt. I forget what Norwee claimed?

This is my problem with pine's claim.

[Thestatusquo]

To a lesser extent my paranoia about misty too, but a) I was town reading misty way more than I was town reading pine and b) this is a bit of a ballsy gambit for scum misty to pull and I don't buy it.

[Flavor Leaf]

it's 3 town JOATS.

You guys see my conundrum with why I think I should be venged.

[Flavor Leaf]

i am starting to think Norwegian is a Scum JOAT based on them seemingly thinking that scum had to have a JOAT and pushed me for it earlier. I personally have been gut reading Norwegian as town since end of Day 2, but i do think Norwegian/Nancy look the worst on VCA, and some of the posts theyve made. However, I can see them both doing those posts as town.

JOAT's a fluff role, it looks like a lot of power, but it's really limited because we're just 1-shots of everything, and then using what on certain nights.

I think the JK claim is real, even if it's scum here.

Thrill on a No Kill kinda mentality.

[Flavor Leaf]

JOAT
JOAT
JOAT
1-shot Neighbor
Vengeful
Vanilla
Vanilla
Vanilla

JK or Vanilla added on to town.

1-shot Strongman
maf
maf

we're actually not that powerful. the joats have a bunch of fluff roles.

[Flavor Leaf]

forgot the vig

[Flavor Leaf]

JOAT
JOAT
JOAT
1-shot Neighbor
Vengeful
Novice 1-shot Vig
Vanilla
Vanilla
Vanilla

JK or Vanilla added on to town.

1-shot Strongman
maf
maf

yeah, that's 6, maybe 7 PR's, but the only actual strong one is JK, if town.

Our Doctor shots can mess up the vig kill too, and jailkeep can protect.

[Pine]

I guess my paranoia is that we’re extremely tpr heavy based off of claims. 2 town Joats, I town 1 shot vig, I town venge.

Ico flipped vt. I’m vt and I think you and Ram also claimed vt. I forget what Norwee claimed?

I guess my paranoia is that we’re extremely tpr heavy based off of claims. 2 town Joats, I town 1 shot vig, I town venge.

Ico flipped vt. I’m vt and I think you and Ram also claimed vt. I forget what Norwee claimed?

This is my problem with pine's claim.

There is no other Town protective role, while the JOATs served as a distributed investigative role. Come on, people. Think.

[Flavor Leaf]

wagonomics says Status/Pine are not both scum, we went through this.

Norwegian, Ramcius have 1 scum in them likely with 1 in Status, Pine.

However, I think Norwegian/Ramcius could also be a possible team which would explain why Ramcius dipped off of the Norwegian wagon and helped TGP gain momentum, and that could have been Norwegian vs Ramcius bussing, because i never really went into that exchange even though I wanted to, and it kind of just disappeared